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Cheers Mate. I have put it aside for a while at the moment as I am very busy with work and some other projects. I will get back to it one of these days, and maybe tackle the task of impedance matching the coils... yay tonns of fun!
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Cheers Mate. I have put it aside for a while at the moment as I am very busy with work and some other projects. I will get back to it one of these days, and maybe tackle the task of impedance matching the coils... yay tonns of fun!
Hey,

Sounds like it will take a few long nights to match the impedance, all we
can do is measure length, count turns, and hope all is even at the end
I'm an Aussie too and will check out Jaycar for the 45A motor controller
and buy a 1-4kg spool of small gauge wire.

Keep in touch when you manage some free time to start experimenting
with the G-Field Gen again.

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I apologize for the slight off topic posts here but I think relevant. I've waited for quite a while for a serious discussion on parallel coils and am pleasantly surprised that John revealed it in this application.

Anyway, here is another system with parallel coils.



And here is the maglev stuff:

https://www.llnl.gov/str/Post.html





"The track contained some 1,000 rectangular inductive wire coils, each about 15 centimeters wide. Each coil was shorted at its ends to form a closed circuit but not otherwise connected to any electrical source."

I'm not saying the Kromrey is like the maglev, just pointing
out that after you take power away from parallel coils, you really have
coils that you short into each other. What does this do and what
is your benefit?

Again, I apologize for going slightly off topic but I just hope everyone
really takes a look at this concept deeply. What is the nature of coils
that are in parallel, you charge them and then you take away the power.

Do you want a spike back or do you want an a magnetic field that
lasts longer than it is "supposed" to.
Hey Aaron,

This post has cleared up a few questions I was contemplating about the RE applications available utilizing a trifilar coil in parallel.
Three mains things arose:

1.) This is the simple method to obtain low resistance in a small gauge
wire and still retain the 500-1000 turns (depending on function)

2.) Is this what Tesla is talking about in his books to achieve a coil with low
resistance to pump in more RE due to the mutual induction cause by the
expanding and collasping magnetic fields?

3.) How much of the RE spike is achieved from this increased duration of
the magnetic field and I have to explore this phenomenon further. Two
gen coils with equal turns would investigate to peak voltage/time delay
from the increased on time of the magnetic field .

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Many in series yet also in parallel. Assembling things in peculiar manner like Coil-pacitor or wth mixing a few ideas...
Oh, boy ,you all are getting good


Sorry for offtopic, I couldn't resist

P.S. "(...)second, if two points in an electric circuit through which a current rapidly rising and falling in strength is made to flow be connected with the plates or armatures of a condenser, a variation in the current's strength in the entire circuit or in a portion of the same only may be produced; "
current strength = inertia = local energy amplification effect

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Many in series yet also in parallel. Assembling things in peculiar manner like Coil-pacitor or wth mixing a few ideas...
Oh, boy ,you all are getting good


Sorry for offtopic, I couldn't resist

P.S. "(...)second, if two points in an electric circuit through which a current rapidly rising and falling in strength is made to flow be connected with the plates or armatures of a condenser, a variation in the current's strength in the entire circuit or in a portion of the same only may be produced; "
current strength = inertia = local energy amplification effect

Hello,

Thats for the tip and yes that what finally dawned on me, so simple and
thus overlooked it

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Hey,

My replication of the Kromrey Converter is progressing very nicely over the
last few weeks. (Months of research before began to obtain parts)
Firstly, I'm making a modification to JB's design in that I'm utilizing RC
components to determine the RPM of the pole pieces via a transmitter.
Acrylic uprights, top/bottom sections of the housing to allow easy viewing
in place of the Aluminum used in JB's build.

I had to re-order magnets due to can only obtain strontium ferrite magnets
here in Australia, Barium ferrite was what JB used and thus made an order
of 40x25x10mm of the correct type. (China to the rescue)
And now I have 50 spare strontium ferrite to use in SSG's

I learnt an expensive lesson about having these parts machined and will
need to invest in a metal lathe as it will pay itself off in no time due to
amount of custom machining in this project. (plus many other uses)
However, the precision of the parts is much better than I could hope to do
in my first attempts and wanted this replication to work as the model in
EFTV 10.

Copper slip rings, finish re-designing the top/bottom housing sections for the
plastic machinist and finally, wind the coils with #18 wire as JB suggests.
(have the wire, but not the hours free as of yet)

Looking forward to completing more over the weekend

Here is a clip testing the RC components on the 26th October 2011.
Testing RC Components to Run a Kromrey Converter - 26th October 2011.AVI - YouTube

Since then have used the 14V PSU and when added the tachometer tape to
measure the RPM, it obtained just under 6000 RPM.

P.S - Thankyou Dambit/Steve for posting all your data, plus having me over
to view your Kromrey replication and experiment for the day mate

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No worries mate. Good to see your build coming together, can't wait to see it spin.

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No worries mate. Good to see your build coming together, can't wait to see it spin.

Cheers,

Steve
Thanks mate is now just having to wait impatiently for the last parts made
by the plastic machinist so I can bolt the KC together.
I'm going to allow 6-10mm adjustment at each of the 4 magnet stacks and
thus can fine tune the pole pieces via the magnet stacks.

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Hi to all I am tracking this discussion for a while and I would like to build one prototipe of kromery generator but could anybody help me with plans, drawings of kromery pleas

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Regarding the cooling effect

In the energy from the vacuum 10 video Bedini shows that outside of the kromrey converter, in close proximity, cold air can be felt blowing from the machine.

Milestone in magnetic cooling

This article I found is showing related research at the DTU nat'l lab. It shows that a material, when entering a magnetic field, emits radiation as heat. Then when leaving the magnetic field, the material becomes cooler.

It's a quick read, check it out. They're trying to use the technology for refrigerators that use permanent magnets instead of harsh chemicals to facilitate the cooling. But their trying to use them like traditional refrigerators, where they just blow away excess heat into your home/environment; and only the cooling effect is counted as the usable output of the device to keep the refrigerator cold.

The Kromrey converter seems to be the same device the lab is discovering, but instead of radiating excess heat, the coils intervene and radiate electricity. This way it does useful work on both cycles of the rotor movement between the magnets. One cycle generating electricity when entering the magnetic field. The second cycle generating refrigeration when leaving the magnetic field.

KROMREY CONVERTER

Check out that link for the design of the kromrey converter, its at the bottom of the page, labeled "G-field Generator". The version being discussed in the EFV video is similar to that picture, but the coils rotate instead of the magnets, so sliprings are needed to get the current off the rotating coils.
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Hi to all I am tracking this discussion for a while and I would like to build one prototipe of kromery generator but could anybody help me with plans, drawings of kromery pleas

with regards VR6
this guy is saying he has plans for a kromrey convertor he is sellling.

Kromrey Converter Plans by DMR - YouTube

though id rather it be free on here....
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Hello,

Does anyone know the significance of this wave form?

If so can you share your understanding of it as it applies to this specific magnet-coil topology.

Also, do you know of other means of producing this same wave form; methods which are more or less independent from and or unrelated to this (G-Field or Kromrey) motor-generator design topology.

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Recently i've been interested in making a Kromrey converter, but currently neither have the parts nor tools to do so. I saw this other motor & thought it could be made more similar to Kromrey's with some slight modifications. If this works it might be cheaper & easier to construct than the original, although I'm not sure it would be as efficient. Please forgive the crudely modified diagram.
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Did you get a different motor for your Kromrey?

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After watching DVD #10, a couple of years ago, I wanted to replicate the Kromrey converter also. I have had delays with my machine but I am working on it again.

I began by trying to replicate what I saw on the DVD as closely as I could. I had no resources available to manufacture parts for me so I had to build it from parts that I could buy off-of-the-shelf.

Very quickly I found that it would be impossible to replicate what I saw on the DVD because I couldn't see very much. The machine on the DVD was custom built and would need to be replicated the same way. I had been reading this thread so I knew I wasn't the only person trying to make this happen.

Then it dawned on me that I should just design my own machine, that I can actually build, and use the principles of the DVD and patent. I got a friend of mine to do the CAD drawing based on my hand-drawings and then I found a machinist to make the parts.

You can see how far along I am now. I still have to wind the coils but I thought I would at least share what I have done so far. The plans that I have attached are for an eight stack machine. I realized that this didn't allow for a complete alternation of polarity on a full rotation. I had the designer adjust the design to a ten stack machine.

I need to gather a couple of different parts together. I have been able to spin the machine and should have more parts together very soon to make it do something.

Pictures in the next post.

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No I haven't yet. I've been very busy with work for a while now and haven't had a lot of time to get back into this. Not sure when I will be able to either.
Hey Steve,

Hope to see you back experimenting soon mate

I have been working on other Radiant projects and still need to measure out 11 more strands of #18 wire to wind the 4 coils.

I have all the housing made of Acrylic completely machined, including uprights and screw in feet with 20 degree adjustment.

Slip rings complete and just need to decide on what carbon brush design to use out the 2 in competition in my mind

Motor mount is simple mild steel 70x100x70mm channel and then I used my drill press for the 8 holes and then finished with kill rust.

With NONE OF THE PARTS off the shelf and have to be machined the time/cost have started to add up. However, the finished project that I could not buy in a store is all the drive a need to complete over the next few months.

I will upload more pics when I add the coils, brushes and slip rings as a complete unit mate, or I can MMS a few if you like

P.S: Bedini Tech and Ufopolitics Motor controller circuit take up too much of my time and I need more hours in the day.

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Have you found that using acrylic makes the machine function better or is it just easier to work with when constructing the machine?

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I was able to put up some pictures on a site I created for the project.

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Have you found that using acrylic makes the machine function better or is it just easier to work with when constructing the machine?

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Hey Chris,

The reason I used acrylic was after visiting Dambit and being able to see the coils/slip rings from the any view point

Also, we want the least amount of magnetic material near the pole pieces to ensure is a single magnetic loop as JB describes.
Aluminium will create drag if in close proximity to this area and thus another choice for Acrylic.
Then I do not have to spend more time adjusting than I need.

Glad to see another on this project and will hopefully inspire others

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Hey Chris,

Great pics of your progress thus far

Are you going to use all the 10 magnetic stacks?

I only have 4 stacks with a 1000W BLDC Motor and ESC to run it
Had to problem running at 6000 RPM with this load, no slip rings attached as was just to simulate the load for testing.
Will swap this out for a Brushed DC motor down the track with my own controller when I determine the correct frequency for my constant load.

The Barium Ferrite magnets I ordered That is a must to succeed as JB intended were $2 USD each and had 55 made up for the project and picked the 40 of the best.
Ideally, I should of obtained 100+ to match the magnetic field strength for better results.

Looking forward to seeing what size motor it takes to engage all those magnetic stacks

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Zero,

I have the Exceed RC Monster Power 110
MonsterPower 110 (295kv) Brushless Motor

as the motor I am going to try first. I have a servo tester to drive it because I didn't want to mess with a radio and all of the AA batteries to go with it just so I can spin the motor.

I think this motor is VERY much overkill but we will see how it goes. I fully intend to begin my testing with 10 full stacks. They are just ceramic C8 magnets from...wherever. There are 240 of them total.

I have to make some adjustments to the armatures and quite frankly I think that my cores of all-thread rod will not be thick enough. I have already come up with a replacement design but I want to test the machine as it is to get a frame-of-reference to start with. I don't want to start modifying the machine until I know where I am starting from.

I have a bench power supply on order and some other parts so I can remove the input power variable for tuning purposes. After I know what RPM works and the output that I am getting then I can introduce batteries. My plan is to run the machine on 24V to start with.

With all of the stacks being so close to each other I don't think high RPM is going to be the ticket with this. If this is actually the case then I can drop down in motor size and voltage required to run it. Again, we shall see. I hope to have some results here either this week or next week. It just depends on my work demands as to when I have enough time.

I know the drawings show a lot but they don't really convey the size of the machine.

The plates, or discs, are 30cm (12") in diameter. There are three total. The magnet area has the top and middle section which sandwich them all together. The bottom plate is the base-plate with the feet and is below the flywheel. Everything is pretty much aluminium that can be aluminium. Instead of going with the flywheel on top of the machine I want with the idea of a pancake style flywheel at the base of the machine so it wouldn't be top heavy.

The machine stands 43cm from the floor to the top plate. The magnet and armature area is 30.5cm in height. I am going to put together a list of parts and sizes to post so anyone that is interested can have it.

I love the work you and Dambit have been doing. It has actually inspired some of my designs. I figured it was time that I spoke up and tried to add something to the mix.

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I have the Exceed RC Monster Power 110
MonsterPower 110 (295kv) Brushless Motor

as the motor I am going to try first. I have a servo tester to drive it because I didn't want to mess with a radio and all of the AA batteries to go with it just so I can spin the motor.

I think this motor is VERY much overkill but we will see how it goes. I fully intend to begin my testing with 10 full stacks. They are just ceramic C8 magnets from...wherever. There are 240 of them total.

I have to make some adjustments to the armatures and quite frankly I think that my cores of all-thread rod will not be thick enough. I have already come up with a replacement design but I want to test the machine as it is to get a frame-of-reference to start with. I don't want to start modifying the machine until I know where I am starting from.

I have a bench power supply on order and some other parts so I can remove the input power variable for tuning purposes. After I know what RPM works and the output that I am getting then I can introduce batteries. My plan is to run the machine on 24V to start with.

With all of the stacks being so close to each other I don't think high RPM is going to be the ticket with this. If this is actually the case then I can drop down in motor size and voltage required to run it. Again, we shall see. I hope to have some results here either this week or next week. It just depends on my work demands as to when I have enough time.

I know the drawings show a lot but they don't really convey the size of the machine.

The plates, or discs, are 30cm (12") in diameter. There are three total. The magnet area has the top and middle section which sandwich them all together. The bottom plate is the base-plate with the feet and is below the flywheel. Everything is pretty much aluminium that can be aluminium. Instead of going with the flywheel on top of the machine I want with the idea of a pancake style flywheel at the base of the machine so it wouldn't be top heavy.

The machine stands 43cm from the floor to the top plate. The magnet and armature area is 30.5cm in height. I am going to put together a list of parts and sizes to post so anyone that is interested can have it.

I love the work you and Dambit have been doing. It has actually inspired some of my designs. I figured it was time that I spoke up and tried to add something to the mix.

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Hey Chris,

I looked into the servo tester after I had obtained the transmitter/reciever/ESC to run the BLDC motor and
with the servo tester it would be more practical with less parts and will have to make sure I order one.

That is a MONSTER Motor and that running on 2kW would be an amazing sight, looking forward to a future YouTube clip of that

I did not see the max voltage in the link but at 295kV I assume would be 24-36V max?

Also, have you made the blocks to hold the magnetic stacks and shape the horseshoe magnetic field from aluminum,
or are they to hold the steel blocks via these?

P.S: Thankyou for the kind words and you have inspired me to spend more time working over the KC over the next few weeks

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The blocks that are on top and bottom of the magnets are steel. The screws that hold them onto the aluminium plates are also steel. Unfortunately the screws that hold the aluminium connecting rods together are steel. I couldn't get aluminium screws and or didn't want to use nylon. I wanted to have a strong clamping pressure for the magnets as nothing else holds them in place. I figured they didn't need any help because they are magnets after all.

The motor is quite a monster. You are correct about the voltage range being 24-36v. I am going to use it at 24v. I have to figure out how many turns of 24 awg wire to use. That is all I have at-the-moment. The setup I have will be a pain to wrap and doesn't allow for easy modification so it will cost more time to change.

I think the rotor armature ends are too wide for the distance between the blocks but after the first series of tests I can either have smaller ones made or just adjust the ones I have.

I do have a bit of an anomaly with the magnets in that the South pole is stronger than the North pole. I don't know if that is because I am in Sweden or if that is a manufacture's defect with the magnets. They all exhibit this same effect. Maybe my magnet sniffer is more sensitive with the south pole more than the north. No idea there.

I am going to get some lighting and setup a better background for filming so I can get it right in HD.

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Hey, I was considering building this as the mechanical load on a Bedini SSG wheel (instead of a fan). I noticed that the 4-magnet, 4-phase Kromrey has an asymmetrical magnetic field. I'm not sure if this asymmetry is necessary in the design or if my 6-magnet (6-phase) mod below would operate, for example with less cogging:




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Hey Hypnothesis,

Either configuration will work for an output. The only difference would be that when you rectify the output you will get an all positive waveform. So your double pole waveform would still come out all positive as would your alternating waveform.

The only reason I did the odd number of stack-pairs is because the patent stated it should be this way. After I do some testing with the alternating poles then I will switch all of the stacks to the same orientation so I have a monopole to test with. I guess I won't have to rectify the output, if it is an all positive waveform.

I love the drawings, btw!

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The blocks that are on top and bottom of the magnets are steel. The screws that hold them onto the aluminium plates are also steel. Unfortunately the screws that hold the aluminium connecting rods together are steel. I couldn't get aluminium screws and or didn't want to use nylon. I wanted to have a strong clamping pressure for the magnets as nothing else holds them in place. I figured they didn't need any help because they are magnets after all.

The motor is quite a monster. You are correct about the voltage range being 24-36v. I am going to use it at 24v. I have to figure out how many turns of 24 awg wire to use. That is all I have at-the-moment. The setup I have will be a pain to wrap and doesn't allow for easy modification so it will cost more time to change.

I think the rotor armature ends are too wide for the distance between the blocks but after the first series of tests I can either have smaller ones made or just adjust the ones I have.

I do have a bit of an anomaly with the magnets in that the South pole is stronger than the North pole. I don't know if that is because I am in Sweden or if that is a manufacture's defect with the magnets. They all exhibit this same effect. Maybe my magnet sniffer is more sensitive with the south pole more than the north. No idea there.

I am going to get some lighting and setup a better background for filming so I can get it right in HD.

-Chris
Hey Chris,

I'm not sure about the anomaly of magnets exhibiting a stronger south pole and if was a fator in the build you can always wind the coils inverse

However, with building Monopoles and other Bedini tech I have never wound the coils CCW or swapped the magnets poles due to my location. A completely inverse circuit compared to the standard model will answer our questions and have had that discussion with friends in Australia.

HD camera with extra lighting is the key to making clips and I'm always too busy talking to make sure I show everything I want
Therefore, I will enlist the help of a friend with years of experience so that the Kromrey 2012 is shown in all its glory

I'm still finding the brushes contacting the brushes problematic in my designs and still not happy to make a real world representation til 100%.
I'm gravitating towards copper coated epoxy strips with the carbon attached to the end contacting the copper slip rings. Sounds good in theory and will need to make sure this will not impede the function or my designs.

P.S: With the coils I would aim for 1 Ohm total resistance in series. I have used #18 wire (1mm) with 3 strands in parallel to lower the resistance, this will aid the magnetic reasonance feedback in the counter EMF produced as a bonus. IMHO

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Zero,

What is the diameter of your rotor arm cores? Have you experimented with different sized cores for the coils?

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Hey, I was considering building this as the mechanical load on a Bedini SSG wheel (instead of a fan). I noticed that the 4-magnet, 4-phase Kromrey has an asymmetrical magnetic field. I'm not sure if this asymmetry is necessary in the design or if my 6-magnet (6-phase) mod below would operate, for example with less cogging:




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Hey Hypnothesis,

Thanks for uploading the pics with the 6 pole (phase) Kromrey design and either you are using a small KC or massive SSG is the first thing that springs to mind
I like the way you think, is all about the efficiency of utilizing all the available energy and not waste that potential. The 23% mechanical efficiency from the SSG could run a KC and is all scalable.
However, a Window motor designed to run the KC is another way to look at this but which is more practical will depend on the desired function.

I see that waveform as shorting the coil at the peak of the sine wave either side of the bell curve. Your waveform would have a third HV peak on both the positive and negative switching.
I agree with Chris that could be converted to a pulsed DC output without the need for the full wave brigde rectifier.
An interesting change to the KC and good luck with the builds/experiments.

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