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Old 08-09-2010, 11:55 PM
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Hi folks, Hi matt, did you look at the induced polarity markings I showed on the generator armature. Am I correct, that the output polarities are the same, either both positive or negative depending on armature position. Take a look, thanks.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:35 AM
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That drawings bad. It got discussed some time ago. the winding's are drawn wrong.

This Drawing

You got 2 sets of coils. You got the power coils that are on top and bottom and "U" shaped.
You got the bars in the middle, those are the pick ups.

The point is to generate NO voltage or amperage while the thing come together.

So to do this you have to have an equal reaction on each end and equal point of measurement(the brushes).

If we are talking about the left side you can look at it and imagine it as a wave.While generating, A South field on a south coil creates a positive wave. So does a North field on a north coils . But a North field on a south coil creates a negative wave. And again vice versa.
When the 2 come together on a wire they cancel each other out.

NO COUNTER EMF!!! You have contained the counter field in its own charge. In the case of the Kromrey you store the energy in the iron in a loop. Like Leedskalnin PMH.

Then when you break them you get what you see in a Leedskalnin PMH. A burst of energy released on the coils. This energy is neither positive or negative if the process is done correctly. That is the bases for cold current. It is neutral. It is pure negative energy that has not yet developed mass and polarity. And being so can induce no secondary charges onto the generator.

Garry's motor works from the very same principle but without iron in the core it is not collectible it just gives you the advantages of dispersing the BEMF before it gets in the way.

Hope that helps.

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Old 08-10-2010, 12:57 AM
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Hi matt, thanks for your explanation, after looking at the patent it was obvious it's operating in a much different way than normal generators. I'll have to think about it.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:31 AM
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Matt,
Have you been able to build a Kromrey that works? I have one sitting on my shelf that I spent a lot of time, energy and money on, that doesn't work. At least I haven't been able to get it to work YET. But I never give up, just move on to something else for a while and then go back.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:40 AM
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No I have some parts for one I just never got them all together.

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Old 08-26-2010, 09:22 PM
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Here's a photo of the Kromrey I built. I thought it needed some work on the brushes and I wasn't sure how to wire it. Matt got me motivated and I replaced the brushes with some that work super slick. I've also rewired two of my four coils with two left to go. I used 10 50' pieces of #26 wire. That way I can connect the end of one to the beginning of the next and experiment with how that works. I also wanted to try to send electricity through several wires at the same time, only moving in opposite directions around the coil, and see what difference THAT made. Lots of things to try.

Thanks Matt, for all your help, and especially with the info on how to wire these coils. I can wire up the electrical system on a car or a house just fine, but when it comes to this stuff, I have a hard time even reading a wiring diagram. Capacitors and resistors are not my friends.
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Old 08-28-2010, 11:25 AM
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Here's a short video of how I made my first set of contacts, for anybody interested. Note: I know it is called a Kromrey not Kromwell converter, but for some reason I say Kromwell all the dang time!
YouTube - Kromwell Contacts
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I wound my Kromrey with 10 25' pieces of #26 wire. I have those bobins set aside. Today I would three bobins with between 250 to 300 winds of #26. I didn't really count except to notice that the first layer was about 100 turns, so I figure I'm close to 300 even if they all aren't wrapped as tightly as possible. That's hard to do with layers of teflon tape in between. I went the length of the bobin three times just to make it easy to remember. I will wind the fourth bobin in the morning and then start it up. I plan on running the 12 volt motor directly from one battery while charging a second battery. I will connect voltage meters to both, and video the results. I'll post the link here when it is up on YouTube. Hopefully it won't fly apart. I have run it before so I know it holds together. I am excited to see how my new brushes work as well as the new wiring schematic I got from Matt Jones. It is easy for me to replace bobins and wind new ones, so I am going to try the idea of having the coil a fair distance from the magnets and only having the core come close to the magnets. That's an idea from another thread, but it may apply here also.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:57 AM
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Got a little side tracked with a couple other projects, so won't get this up and running until Tuesday (Sept 7, 2010). It is finally all wired and ready to start with the new bobbins wrapped and wired as Matt Jones suggested and my new brushes in place, but I need to adjust the air gaps between the ends of the bobbins and the magnets. No big deal, bit it is a bit of work and requires I get the thing up on my bench where I can get at it, and that space is occupied by two other projects at the moment.
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Got the Kromrey up and running this morning. Will post video a little later today. I did notice it was very cold around the central shaft and cold air was coming out. Dont know if this is just caused by the spinning rotors, but it was definitely cold. I didn't run it long enough to take any real measurements with my meters, but will do that later today! Wanted to let folks know it is up and running and now the fun begins of testing it and seeing what it will do, if anything. Here's YouTube site.

YouTube - Kromrey run

Gage became disconnected from vibrations, so I shut it down. But at least it is running and ready to be tested.
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Thumbs up Great build

That is a great looking build and it sounds good too. Can't wait to see how well it performs. Your skill and patience putting that together are an inspiration to the rest of us.

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Old 09-08-2010, 06:24 PM
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Old 09-09-2010, 01:32 AM
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Baroutologos,

Sorry for the misunderstanding, my dc motor tries to keep the wheel spinning at 1800 rpm. The 33 is rps multiply times 60 = 1980 rpm. At 33,000 one mag cuts loose and it might knock a satellite out of orbit

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Hi All,

Well... it's been a year since I decided to have a rest from the converter and last week decided to get my act together and get my coils rewound. I put them together tonight, fired it up and I'll be damned, IT WORKED!!!

In the next few days I'll post a new video on youtube, but I did a couple of tests tonight. First of all, it speeds up when I short it out.Yay . I am using a motor controller to govern the speed of my little DC drive motor and as such I have no idea what RPM it does. I just set the motor controller to around 25% (it's pretty quick). When shorted it speeds up to around 35 to 40%.

I measured the output without any load and it puts out about 45V AC (and DC when rectified). I also measured the voltage while adjusting the speed of the drive motor, and as Bedini says, it made no difference to the output of the device.

That's about as far as I could go tonight. I need to get more clip leads etc tomorrow to do more testing. I'll get some shots from my crow as well.

Just so you know, I didn't test shorting myself out with the device Not sure about that one yet.

I did however charge a small 12V battery. VERY small! Good thing was that even though it was getting pumped with 45V and 8 amps (through my meter) it didn't get hot, or warm even. Nor did the cables.

So far it's looking ok. My converter has 3 pairs of magnet stacks, but I had to remove all but one pair. My little drive motor could not break the magnet lock without a "run-up" so to speak. So I'll have to look for a stronger motor I think.

Anyway, I've attached two pics of my device. A little blurry, but they were taken on my phone.

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Old 03-04-2011, 05:39 AM
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Figured you had a good shot at getting this to work.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:19 PM
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That's great! Can't wait to see your results... i was planing to build one for a long time now, but never got to it... yet.

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Hi All,

Just uploaded a video of the converter onto youtube. Check it out if you want.

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Old 03-05-2011, 12:09 PM
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Thats pretty good.

I'll tell ya the true test to see if your converting is to switch polarity of your charger to the battery. Swap the wires. Bedini did it in the movie and the battery still charges, with no sparks.
The cold current has no polarity preference. I think anyway.

Nice work though.

How are you coils wrapped?

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Hi,

I'll try that. I dont remember that on the vid, but we'll see what happens.

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P.S Just tried it. All the wires start to cook and the rectifier gets very hot. I think the only reason Bedini got away with it in the DVD is because he had a load in between the rectifier and the battery, and it was only for a little bit. However I did test charging the battery with only tiny strands of wire and it works great. Nothing gets hot or welds together.
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impressive work Turion and Dambit

Well done to the both of you as well as all replicators in this thread.
I skimmed over the design specs and was technically discouraged. Way to work this one out.

Really hoping to see some positive results! Thanks for doing the difficult work. Hope to be back soon. Love to see some temp indications.

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Old 03-05-2011, 04:09 PM
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If you search this thread for my posts, I know noted the time stamp on the video at what time he did it. Might be back couple of pages.
All he said was it doesn't care about polarity. Then he did it and smiled and said "See, It doesn't care".

He didn't make a big point of it.

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Hi Steve,

Great work.

May I ask what is the PWM model

I would like to get my hands on one of those and you seem quite happy
with it's performance.

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p.s. I am a Sydneysider, Parramatta area.
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Hi,

@ Penno; the link to the Jaycar kit is below.

12-24V High Current Motor Speed Controller Kit - Jaycar Electronics

@ Matt;

I went back and found the part in the DVD your refering too. That is interesting, his was fine. I think mine got hot not from the kromrey out put, but from the battery feeding back through the rectifier. Maybe his rectifier had some extra diodes in it

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Hi Steve,

Thanks for that.

I'll latch one tomorrow.

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Old 03-06-2011, 12:26 PM
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@penno64, Here is a link to another high current PWM motor control.
I have bought from Q-KIts a fair bit and have no issues.

QKits Electronic Kits: UK1133, 45A Digital DC PWM Motor Speed Controller

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Hi Steve,

Jaycar were able to finally locate a PWM at one of the other stores and
had it transfered back to Rydalmere.

I have now assembled and tested the unit.

Was a good build and I am now learning how to control things via the menus.

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Old 04-06-2011, 02:28 PM
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Great to know.

I have once again put my kromrey machine aside for a little while. I have my final semester of study on at the moment so I'm too busy to tinker around in the shed at the moment. I will pick it up again in a few months though.

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solid state

Listening to Open mind with Bill Jenkins recorded in the 80s. Some two guys called in and said they went solid state with this. I am guessing that will be easier to replicate. I do not know whether John Bedini was able to get the schematic.
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Hi Timm,

I have used 0.28mm wire for each of my coils. I haven't twisted them or done anything special. Each coil is a seperate trifilar setup with the wires joined at each end to form a parallel setup. Each coil is then connected to the next coil in a series setup. It is important that all the coils are wound in the same way, ie clockwise or cclockwise. Coils # 3 and 4 are then simply rotated upsidedown. Each coil has approximately 800 turns. The total resistance when they are all connected in series is 17.5 ohms

I've attached a pic to make it clearer.

As far as my mechanical problems go, I have ordered all the new parts and am now just waiting impatiently The stuff should arrive soon enough though.

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Hey Steve,

I just seen your youtube clip and was very impressed, glad to see it replicated

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