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Old 06-29-2010, 10:22 PM
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Core spinner.

I sucessfully wound and tested the Plumber Tape spinner spool coil. Eight and a third volts rectified D.C. output from the core spinner coil than from the same amount of wire and wraps in a Radio Shack coil that only outputs three and a half volts held in adjacency. Over twice the voltage from the magnet spinner spool axel wraped with one skien of RS red magnet wire, then the amount on an output coil of the same siize held close to one side. Also the plumber spool works well as a pulse motor. Took off like crazy with a reed switch wired in series with a twelve volt battery. The two coils together output nearly 12 volts. I'm powering with a tiny kinetic toy pulse coil wired to a tiny Hall effect transister, that's stationed beneath a Radio Shack coil and the Plumber Tape spinner spool seperated by a piece of tape to keep the tiny metal core from flying up and attaching itself to the powerfull Neo spinner. These Kinetic toy units are for sale on line for ten dollars. You have to dig it out, but it's well worth it. This experiment so far has met with great success. Somthing really powerfull is taking effect in this fiendishly simple motor generator. Why such a wide difference in output value? More testing ahead!
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Old 06-29-2010, 11:13 PM
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Hi Synchro.Thanks for the update.I have been talking with magnetman and one of the things that stands out about his setup is the fact that he does not collect the pulse coil bemf.He thinks this may be contributing to his very high output in his pickup coil as when he does dump it into a battery, the output drops so my question to you is what are you doing with the bemf and try a test to see how your output is effected by recovery/non recovery and also when fed back to the + rail via a diode.
Keep up the good work as you are collaborating what magnetman is seeing Jonny
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:18 AM
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Bemf.

I'm working under the assumption that the bemf is transfered to the output coil through the inductive coupling created by this siamese configuration. The output seemed pretty consistent througt an LED. The charge hits a wall if the battery voltage is higher than the output voltage. I wonder what the magnetman's output voltage was compared to his batteries? I located an ideal spot on the side of the coil to position the reed switch, where I taped it down. Makes for a pretty neat motor package. I'll measure power by comparing two identical cap charges, one for input to draw from, and the other for recovery and storage of output. The "Magnetic Vortex" is the best explaination I have so far. The Vortex is independent of the magnet, and only present along he axis. Faraday's discovery of the independent field has been expanded upon by Bruce DePalma, who first spun the magnetic gyroscope. He draws all his output from a connection to the axis. Lenz drag was alledgedly reduced to 17 or 20 percent in the magnetic gyroscope generator stator.
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:48 AM
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Magnetic vortex.

Michael Faraday generated electricity spinning a copper disk between two opposite magnet poles. He found that the disk could generate the power if spun while attached to the magnet. The theorists posited a reverse flux eddy that helped generate the current. Somthing like this is probably spinning around in the other direction around the spinning magnet axel. This force supposedly mitigates Lenz drag. Perhaps somthing like this is at work in the axial output coil?
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Old 07-08-2010, 02:57 AM
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1 Inch magnet, ceramic bearings.

I'm moved into a new place finally, after two months of searching upon my return from Costa Rica and Ecuador. I purchase ordered a 1 inch diametric tube, two all ceramic 1/8 inch id 1/4 od miniature bearings and a 1/8 inch solid carbon rod. The hole in the magnet is 1/4 and the 1/8 inch the diameter of the axel. These all ceramic bearings were not cheap, about $50. apiece. They're rated for 400,000 rpm. That's up there in the "Alphcenturi" range. I purchased a PVC coupling, 2-5/8 id. I plan to have a lawn mower mechanic drill the axel holes for the carbon rod, and seat the magnet bearings and axel in the center for some speed tests in my new apartment. I thought it over, and concluded the smaller the axel, the less friction; Rather then move the axel betwen bearings like Magnetman12003, I choose to rotate the magnet with internal bearings around a stationary axel. An axel 1/32 might work even better, quien sabes? 1/8 solid carbon for now. The ends could be caped with clear plexiglass, then the air core can be evacuated with no through holes for the axel and complete protection and noise supression come along as well. I spotted my camera again, but first I'll try and attach some JPG's. Next comes the coil winding.
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:20 PM
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Skycollection.

Skycollection has taken down all but five of his videos.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:35 PM
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Boca bearing test.

The miniature bearings showed up today. I picked up a 1/8 brass rod and sanded it to fit snugly inside the ceramic bearings, the results were spectacular!I tested it with a 3/4 tube magnet, which has a 1/4 hole too. Waiting on the 1 inch. Laser tach batteries went down too much towards the end when I really got it screaming after I removed the metal core with a 12v Reed Switch in series with a battery, and 800 turn air core bifilar. I have to get voltage readings off the secondary, but the speed must have reached 12 or 15 thousand R.P.Ms. I have three Hall effect and Darlington pair transisters on order which should increase the speed. I am thrilled with the performance of the precision miniature ceramic bearings. Tiny as can be, for $50.00 apiece, but the tube magnet spun so fast I decided to shut it down for lack of eye protection, rock solid the whole time. I'll get back soon with further updates. They really show their breeding as they start to reach high speed, the integrity of their performance is sterling! Rated for 400,000 r.p.m.

Update:

Laser tach came back, over 12 thousand R.P.M.! I wound a small Tesla air core high voltage coil on an empty thread spool. Bifilar, two wires three ends just like the Joule thief. Best performance yet! Twice the magnetic force for the same wire amount and input as the single wrap power coil. Just have to conect the right wires; beginning of one to the end of the other. 12 volt Reed Switch in series.

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Got new batteries for the Laser Tach, and attached reflective tape. Clocked 13,345 r.p.m.! Definitly already a match for a Skycollections Maglev design and just getting started. He's calling his rig frictionless, but the reality is, the supporting magnets create drag on the magnet spinner and axel.

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Just hit 16,5000 R.P.M. after securely mounting the brass axel in the PVC coupling. The earlier runs were in a flimsey jewelery box lid. That's 275 Hz, The Hallbach and Darlington pair transisters should boost the speed even more, as I think I'm at the upward switch rate for the Radio Shack Reed Switch.
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Old 07-13-2010, 09:33 PM
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Hi SynchroThanks for posting an update.Any chance of posting some pics of your setup?Picture's will also help people replicate what you are doing.
I am amazed by the cost of those bearings but i suppose you get what you pay for and you are obviously reaping the benefit of the low friction as your rpms are comparable with skycollections
I tried a cylinder magnet in a fixed configuration way back and i used bearings from a yoyo which cost 1 and the friction was so bad that i did not pursue the idea but you have taken a leap of faith with your time and wallet and i am as excited as you with your results to date.Keep going.Jonny.
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:08 PM
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mini core spinner.

@Jonny,

I am broke right now. I had to come up with an extra months rent to get moved into my new place. I put an inquiry in at the coffee house next door for a digital camera assistent. I'm all set up for a photo shoot. I have some important cautionary suggestions for anyone attemping to duplicate this mini spinner. The bearings are designed for rotary motion, not lateral pressure. Boca has an open bearing for $48.00 in the correct dimension, and a closed one for $79. I tried to knock the bearings out of the 3/4 inch magnet to refit in a newly arrived larger 1 inch magnet, and broke one open. Don't push on the inner edge while the outer edge is jamed! I should have used a 1/4 inch push rod, instead of the too small 1/8 inch axel, like dopy me! This was my fifty dollar lesson. You can't make this mistake with the more costly closed miniature all ceramic bearing. I did manage to get a look at a tiny ceramic ball under a microscope. The surface perfection stays clean with many orders of magnification. Stand by for the photos, I'll shanghai a helper sometime soon, and get some JPG's posted for you, please be patient.

I did get to spin the inch before I broke the bearing. The field strength forced me to relocate the Reed Switch maybe six inchs from the magnet, and the sweet spot was very difficult to locate. Too much strength for the Radio shack Reed Switch. Speed wouldn't go above 7,500 R.P.M. When I spin the 3/4 inch magnet, I have the Reed Switch taped right below the lip on the outside of my thread spool power coil. I get the highest speed with the magnet sitting right over and in-between the Reed Switch and the power coil core, just a bit off to one side and almost touching the 3/4 inch diametric magnet. I just cut a small hole through a CD and pushed the coil through the hole. I glued a CD with a larger hole to the PVC coupling as a coil wall for the output coil, and pincer clamped the CD's together to hold and position the power coil. This is how simply I ran up over 16,000 R.P.M.s. Output to bridge rectifier and inverter might run a T.V. and charge the primary battery, like skycollection demo'd in one of the videos he took down. I'm chafeing at the bit to try that. The 1 inch will probably spin better with the Hall effect transister and mosfet.

There is a Hartley oscillator circuit in the Hi voltage power coil wrap, and an Armstrong oscillator with an inductive coupling between the linked power and output coil. The induced voltage in the power coil from the rapidly spinning magnet produces extra magnetic force. That tiny thread spool coil of wire is perhaps close in strength to the powerful spinner at full speed.
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Old 07-15-2010, 07:02 PM
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synchro & all, your perserverance is truely admirable
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:09 AM
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Mini Spinner Pics.

These are pictures of perhaps the World's first Internaly Motorized Alternator, minus the output wrap.

Left to right:

1- View of the 3/4 inch spinner in the 2 1/2 inch PVC core.
2- Miniature 1/4 O.D. , 1/8 I.D. all ceramic bearing on top of a Radio Shack 12 volt 6 amp hour battery.
3- Position of the 12 volt Reed Switch on the Hi Voltage Spool Coil. Pins should point away from the magnet..
4- Top secured for runing with coil seated down partly inside the output core.
5- The six main componants: Power coil on core, 1/8 inch brass axel, ceramic bearing, battery and Reed Switch.
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:29 PM
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Wireing diagram.

New attachment, Reed Switch in series:
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Old 07-18-2010, 08:47 PM
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Ossie circuit.

The top of the coil houses the normaly open Reed Switch. The coil has a second wall and, next I have planed a bottem with a second two pole normaly closed reversed polarity Reed Switch mounted on a another thread spool underneath. This curfs the power pulse and separates the coil at both ends, leaveing the only pathway back to the battery through the Full Wave Shockty Diode Bridge. Ossie's original motor is monopole, making the new switch choice necessary. The switch positions with the same kind of easy friction universal adjustment as the top, to tailor the pulse width. The top switch turns the pulse on, and the bottem one turns it off, disconecting the coil at both ends. These switches are wired in series. Add the resistors and we can manage a self charging "Ossie circuit", to disengage at will for full power. When the output coil is wired for self charging, and the spacing secured, the output from the alternator may be all gravy, with speeds crossing the Electro-Gravitic threshold, and extra power output. Maybe a diode like Gotoluc's directly across the coil leads would help create a flyback loop supercharger. More operating voltage seems to be necessary, maybe 50 volts, along with higher voltage limit switches. I believe this to be: "The World's First Internal Ossie, Dipole Magnet Rotor Motor Alternator"! That's the fat cherry on top for this one.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:31 PM
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Pulse width switch.

I have a custom two contact reed switch underway for my bottem spool pulse width regulator. The choice to use or not use this self charger is open, unlike Ossie's design. One set of contacts disconects the power switch from the hot lead, and the other the opposite end ground wire of the power coil. A full wave bridge rectifier wired to each end of the coil sends the power generated by the magnet spinner in the power coil to the battery during the time the pulse is attenuated. I just ordered one hundred 1/16 by 1/32 tiny disk magnets for $6.00. I plan a spring balanced contact, with a miniature extension sping secured on a movable cross pin or plastic back off bolt that goes through the hole in the spol, and hooks onto the overhanging contact, resting on a compression spring, on the other end. This regulates the downward tension on the opposing pressure balanced compression sping, pushing up on the overhanging contact arm over the spool hole, with the tiny disk magnet on top. This is the normaly closed, north pole open two contact swicth or Double Pole Single Throw, so the tiny disk magnet has to face south pole up, to pull the finely balanced contacts apart without bleeding too much force from the spinner. This custom non-magnnetic material spring balanced reed switch should deliver peak efficency. I'll upload a snapshot when I'm finished.

It has since come to my attention that the changeover reed switch can double for a normaly closed switch. I guess it dosen't matter if the switch is closed when the north poles facing up because the power switch is closed as well. Very common componant. One or two of these in tandem would probaly work much better then my home made version, so looks like that project dead ended in the cradel. I also learned that you can create a normaly closed switch just by placing a small magnet nearby a normaly open switch.
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Old 07-21-2010, 03:40 PM
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Power off Rodin spin.

Check this new video out of a resonant spin from jackscholze:

YouTube - Lolo Neoball Resonant Spinner II
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:53 PM
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Wobbler.

Here may be more evidence of a magnetic flow effect. My replacement bearing showed up today, and wound a new bifilar hi voltage spool coil on my electric drill that went like magic.



YouTube - Strange wobble in overhead magnet
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:23 PM
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Mini core spinner.

I scaled down to the 1 & 1/4" inch PVC coupling from the 2 & 1/2, the smallest diameter I could get the 3/4" into for the final fixture. I glued the bearings inside the magnet, and ran the sanded 1/4 inch carbon rod through. I ran it up with a Hall effect and Darlinton pair to over 20 thousand sitting on a Lidmotor Radio Shack speaker spool of two solid 24 gauge wires, wired for hi voltage. You can see how well that works on Lidmotors video. Remember to wire the beginning of one wire to the end of the other, like the Jewel thief. YouTube - Speaker Wire Pulse Motor.ASF He dosen't get it going real fast because his axel is merely a wooden dowel stuck through a plastic cup. I'm building walls for the outer winding to test the output on this dimension core. Best performance so far. The bearings got a little glue on them, but wore true on the hi speed maiden run. It's not much to look at, it's so tiny, I'll try and post more sanpshots. I'm sending it to the shop for a professional winding. Be back next Friday. One can imagine the setup without much of a problem. The power consumption drops at high speed. I undestand the pulse width begins to shift on it's own towards the upper end, just how much it will help to trim the pulse width more we'll have to wait and see after the new combination reed switches show up.
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:30 PM
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Bi polar Ossie.

I wired my Plumber tape core spinner with two reed switches, one wired N/O and the other wired N/C to a bridge rectifier, and coil leads, then back to the battery from the bridge. The circuit met with instant and overwhelming success! The changeover reed switchs do the job perfectly. Just a minor modification. It only took a little bit of fishing around to notice the effect of placeing the pulse width modifing reed within proper zone which is about 180 degrees, slightly offset. I am sure I have a self runner. The output from the axially wound core was much higher then any of the output coils placed in adjacency. In this case it's powering the spinner and sending current back to the battery, from current generated in the motor wrap by the spinning magnet rotor during the induced pulse gap. The motor r.p.m is around a thousand . I haven't made any charge measurements yet, but so far, the Ossie circuit adapted to this type of spinner with great success. This design is sure to generate more power through it's own axialy placed winding then the Ossie coils in adjacency. I have to re-configure for charge testing now.

Update:
Running too hot without resistors to get long period power draw readings for now, but looks like it's holding pretty steady for the half hour it's good for without increased resistence. The voltage returned from a drop and sustained the upward number. I noticed 50 millivolt battery charge increase readings form flyback spikes in the loop when the curf switch draws too close and shuts it down. The normaly closed position acts like ignition contact points, pulling apart. This kind of point system was originally patented by Bosch for his magneto. Ossie's circuit has the 2nd switch normally open, but this forces us to position it in reverse direction from it's sister. Mine positions the same way, inward to trigger. With Ossie's switch, you have to time by pushing the power switch inward and pulling the kill switch outward. This makes it clumsey. The reverse wiring makes the 2nd switch line up symetricaly and I think its more ergonomicly comfortable to fool around with..
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Old 07-26-2010, 04:47 PM
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Gravity loss.

I have a theory that the extra power output should equal it's gravity loss in the amount it would take to levitate the magnet and core with the hi voltage electro static watts per kilo formula. The output per grams of weight loss should equal the watts per kilo to achieve the same amount of levitation through electro-static lifting.

The prototype core is at the electrical shop for a professional wrap. I selected 26 gauge bifilar. I have't tried to motor with a hi voltage core wrap yet. I'm testing Lidmotor's Joulini on the hi voltage spool, with the center tap on the hot lead, the potentiometer, resistor and TIP3055 conecting the other two leads. I don't think theres any advantage to the Bedini Window wrap or the Newman counter clockwise and reversed wrap twin over the simple end to end for a motor. My design produces an electromagnetic pole over each end of the magnet rotor, and works the same way as all the more complex designs.
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:02 AM
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B-field.

Here's a link to view the B-field torsioning the aether:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/magvtx.htm
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:58 AM
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Magnetman.

400 volts from Magnetman:

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Old 07-30-2010, 09:47 PM
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Coil wrap.

I just got back from the electric shop with the wraped coil core. They did exactly what I asked. I brought my checkbook, and asked the electrician how much, expecting to pay maybe $80.00 and he said: "Oh, just drop by with some sodas". The winding is finely finshed, with insulated leads, epoxy, and shelac. Sliped him twenty bucks, and felt like Price Charming. I'm trying to track down my photographer, I'll ask him to take one of the Plumber spool alternator too. The number of wraps were arbitray. I have to test the ohmic resistenc to gauge the number of turns exactly, I would guess around four or five hundred. I need to test this one before I can build a custom one for a suitable output range. It's a very powerfull and potentialy lethal piece of equipment at this time. The quality wraps and precision bearings make this an industrial quality alternator.
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Old 07-31-2010, 06:16 AM
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First test.

I wired the biflilar output to the bridge in paralell, with the D.C. output of around 120 volts looped back to the primary. I ran it for about a half an hour with hardly any power consumption: It rocked between 12.11 and 12.10. I then disconected the loop charging leads, and it ran down to 12.07 in four minutes at 18,000 r.p.m's. This is with no flyback from the pulse coil, which the Bedini-Davro circuit sends to a charging battery along with the flux coil output. The motor will run for a long long time the way it's wired already. It started around 15,500 then ran up to 18,000 as it warmed up. It likes that high a speed. I don't know where this is going to lead. The faster it runs the less power it consumes. Tried to run it on my scale, but it weighed too much. Very quiet, just a whisper. Hooked it up to the inverter and it killed the motor.
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Old 07-31-2010, 05:29 PM
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Recovery circuit.

@Jonnydavro

How would you or Lidmotor wire this Hall effect transister circuit to recover bemf? Run a diode off the collector?

Tested the alternator again for over an hour. The system is at least breaking even with the feedback loop. Once the coil core is repositioned to adjust for the back loop drag effect, it begins to nurse itself back to speed. It slowly gained an additional 2,000 r.p.m's from 17,000 where it ran before I looped it, to over 19,000 while the input held steady. It slowly picks up this extra speed as the pulse width self tapers and the motor steadily gains speed as it reaches super efficiency. I suspect the B-field torsioning of the aether, somehow relieving Lenz drag. I outlined this theory in my earlier posts. The motor achieves an inverse power curve, where increased speed lowers input and at the same time increases output!

The bemf would be all gravy. This would easily illuminate one or maybe more of Jeana's Freedom Light LED candelabras that Lidmotor demo's with his recovery circuit.
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Hi,

If I may chime in...

Somewhere I have seen this schematic though. I attached a small modification to show where to capture the pulse created by the collapsing field.

I also drew a resistor inserted in series between the Hall output (which is an open collector) and the switching transistor base electrode to limit base current. Without the resistor the full supply battery voltage would rush forward current into the b-e junction of the PNP transistor when the Hall device is just ON, possibly causing rather high current in both them.

If you want the regained energy take out from the electrolytic capacitor in such a way that the negative voltage leg of the capacitor be independent from the battery positive point, then you may wish to wind the electromagnet with double wire, bifilarly, and use the second identical coil as a 1:1 transformer secondary coil to feed the diode and the cap.

rgds, Gyula
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:43 PM
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Hi Synchro.I would recover the bemf the way Gyula showed but you could also try it configured to recover the flyforward voltage by connecting the negative of the cap to the battery negative as your setup is highly experimental and it is worth checking both flyback and fly forward recovery.
Also keep an eye on this thread by tester16 as he seems to be getting primary battery recharge but i am not sure of his circuit as he mentions the use of three ground's.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=6156
I have also seen the reduced current draw with increased speed and i would be interested to know what your base resistance is and also if you stop your magnet with your hand when the motor is spinning,does the circuit remain running in self oscilation mode?You may get to a point when the rotor is spinning so fast and the bedini circuit is in self oscilation mode and the base resistance is so high,the coil may not even know the magnet is there.This is what happened with my 6mm sphere motor.You may be able to do it with a larger magnet.Keep going.Jonny.
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:55 PM
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Flyback.

I'm taking refuge in the den from a serious short circuit smoke out. I wired Gyula's recovery circuit in. The power coil is generating 28 volts in flyback current through the Schottky diode and 100 mf 68 volt capacitor. I have a 10k poteniometer between the Hall effect output and the transister base. The bifilar alternator wrap is in paralell to a full wave bridge and generating around 70 volts. Sends a solid 1/4 inch spark from the dc rectifier lead to the negative of the battery when hooking the flyback loop up. This is causing some kind of direct short, that the motor seems to get into synch with. The connection first makes the motor start to chug, and it's tough to get it speeding back up by adjusting the spinning magnet over the core of the pulse coil. I'll get back and try more testing after the smoke clears out. Just knocked it over and crossed some wires.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:09 AM
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Overunity!

Well it's time to pop the corks! I halted the magnet like Jonnydavro asked me to and it went into resonace, delivering the 28 volts from the capacitor and the battery charge just started climbing like crazy on it's own, and it's just sitting there standing still, like its plugged into the wall. I'm pretty excited right now. I'll be back with more later. To be fair, I really don't have the precision instruments it would take to announce something like this with confidence. I thought it might be capacitor leakback, but it's staying in range while the charge continues to increase. Might be some kind of slinky effect, I'll study it more. Very interesting. Jonny might be playing some kind of prank on me
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Old 08-03-2010, 02:11 AM
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loop.

YouTube - Feedback circuit to coil

Here's a video that demonstrates the input savings of the loop circuit I just wired in on Gyula's generous suggustion. Thanks Gyula! It's been running non-stop now for over an hour on just the flyback loop with no visable drop in input voltage. Check out the "ktservicescorps" video if you haven't seen it before.
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:07 PM
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Wow synchro, congradulations!
So your circuit was the same one that gyula posted with the tuning cap?

Amazing... Please give us some rudimentary battery voltage readings / time !

I think that when the magnet is stopped, the transistor goes into self oscillation, which may have more then one predominant frequency, so you may be pulsing your battery with a multitude of frequencies, thus one of the keys of battery based OU. The magnet may still be important, as the coil vibrates the magnet which vibrates the hall sensor, even if it is "motionless".

Wow, I must try to replicate this !! May take me some time though! I just moved and I occupy 1/10th the space I used to and no workshop...

I am living vicariously through your works!
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