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Old 07-14-2009, 09:48 PM
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Hi All,

how are you all doing ?
here is my vid from today of my Bedini Marathon its day 5 now
and still running, and batteries are higher then ever.

YouTube - One magnet No Bearing Bedini motor Marathon Selfcharging and solar JB part 7 day 5

i think i will have stop the marathon myself soon, and test how long it will run without charging, because i want to test new things with my Bedini

sofare i know that my sphere are really wearing off, cause of the friction
all my sphere;s now have a black cirkel on one end (i will make some pics of it, the damage of sphere's while running Bedini)

i also added a small image with text i found on the net, if we all keep this up, with these sphere's rotating we will see crazy things happing for us in time when RPM's get higher

@JonnDavro, Xenomorph, Lidmotor, Retrod - how are yall doing ?

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Back from 5 day vacation---SOLAR TOP still running

I took a week off for vacation and left my SOLAR TOP and Hall Sensor Spinner running. Both were still running after 5 days. The SOLAR TOP was left outside with one AA alkaline battery and the Hall Sensor Spinner was left inside with a 6 volt lantern battery and a small voltage regulator that dropped the voltage down to 2 volts. Nothing unusual really but I wanted to see what would happen if I just walked away from them for a week. This what I observed when I got home:
1) The SOLAR TOP was running happily but the battery voltage was down to 1.2 volts. This might be the stable point where the battery wants to be given the amount of solar energy that it is fed each day.
2) The Hall Sensor Spinner was still running but the tape that I had on the spinner shaft had started to come unwound and that had slowed the top down. The voltage on the 6 volt lantern battery (standard carbon/acid Eveready) was down to 5.3 volts. That surprised me because the amp draw is so low on the Hall sensor circuit. I think that the voltage regulator took the energy.

@ Johnn B-----I studied your circuit and it looks very interesting. I am very curious how long it will run without the solar input. Basically--what is the energy cousumption. If we can ever get these things down into the true micro amp range then we can run them on an earth battery or a lemon even.

@Jonny D----I am still pondering why you are getting the negative amp draw phenomenon.

@Xenomorph-----It looks like you are into some new experiments. I will follow your progress.

@ All ----On my vacation I took along some of my light projects to try out and it was the "Big Joule Thief" HALO LIGHT that took the prize. It really worked well on the boat at sea for the 5 days.



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Hi All,

Day 6 in the Bedini marathon, and still running

@Lidmotor: i think its really cools that you are also having a Marathon and today is yr 7th day right?
i have seen your vid with the CFL light, im going to try to fix that experiment myself, and try to see if i can hook it up on the Bedini
or make a standalone CFL light of it. i gues i would have to try it with the iron core first since i have no big donut ferrite


here is the latest Bedini Marathon vid YouTube - One magnet No Bearing Bedini motor Selfcharging and solar JB part 8 day 6

keep up the great work everybody

Below is how the friction damage looks like


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Old 07-15-2009, 04:40 PM
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@ Johnny B-----I studied your circuit and it looks very interesting. I am very curious how long it will run without the solar input. Basically--what is the energy cousumption. the last time i could measure the amp draw it was about 3 to 4mah - if i now try to meassure
the amp draw my sphere stops, its like the meter makes it stop so i cant measure amps for now.
soon i will do the no solar test, and then the no solar and no recharging test

If we can ever get these things down into the true micro amp range then we can run them on an earth battery or a lemon even.
ill bet that can already be done, i will test how many patatoes, or patatoe slices it will take to run a Bedini

@Jonny D----I am still pondering why you are getting the negative amp draw phenomenon. could it be reading the amp of the negative voltage, cause in my circuit im also using a minus to minus energy charging in my Cap C1


@ All ----On my vacation I took along some of my light projects to try out and it was the "Big Joule Thief" HALO LIGHT that took the prize. It really worked well on the boat at sea for the 5 days.

im will also try to make that Joule Thief CFL circuit, cant wait to see it work, im already hooked on it


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Old 07-16-2009, 01:50 PM
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Hi All,

just a quick question, is ferrite the same as ceramic magnets
cause i have a donut ceramic magnet, and i was wundering if i could use that as an ferrite core ?

thnx

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Old 07-16-2009, 06:09 PM
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Ferrite magnet for iorn core.

"Johnblade- I think it's considered to be unaceptable because it's the absorbtion quality of the iron that's sought after! A permenent magnet is already impregnated with field strength, and hence a poor core material.
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:11 AM
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Hi All,

@Synchro, thnx for the reply otherwise i would have made a coil for nothing.

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day 7 of my Bedini marathon, and in a way im geting bored :P
from tomorrow i will disconnect the solar and see how long it will run (ill bet not long)

1 thing i can say, is that in a way i now how the sphere is doing by only listening to it :P, when the oil runs out, it makes more unstable noise, when oil is good its stable and running smooth, at night little unstable, during day its running on full speed cause of solar. (and it becomes a household motor :P )


here is the latest vid day 7 and new highest voltage peak on non rechargeable batteries
YouTube - One magnet No Bearing Bedini motor Marathon Selfcharging and solar JB part 9 day 7 - JB

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Old 07-22-2009, 01:32 AM
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Better Hall Sensor Spinner

@ I have been working alot on the Hall sensor approach to spinning the rotor and reworked the circuit I'm using to make it a better charger. I also worked on a shaft mounted cylinder magnet rotor design. I put it on "Maggie" and turned her into a sort of motor generator. This video shows her running remotely with the rotating flux field generated by the spinning Hall sensor magnet rotor.

YouTube - Better Hall Sensor Spinner

My Solar Top is still running but I don't know why. The alkaline AA battery voltage is less than 1 volt. It somehow struggles through the night until the sun hits the solar cell in the morning. I am just leaving it outside now because there is no rain this time of year where I live. Thursday will mark week two of 24/7 spinning on one AA alkaline battery.

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Old 07-22-2009, 01:03 PM
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Bedini coil resonating

Has anyone an idea how to remove resonance from the coil?
I have tried for days now to do that.
I use my old set-up but i use 12 Volt batteries now, because i want to charge 12 volt batteries and i believe it is not possible to charge a 12 v battery with 2 AA (2.6 Volt) batteries because the spike would not be high enough, at least i had no success when i tried it.
The coil sings on its own even if no magnet is on top of the coil.
if i set the base resistance to high (like 50k +) then the rotor wont spin.
If i set it too low the rotor jumps off the table but even at insane speeds to resonance is still audible and there is pretty much no battery charging
happening while it is resonating. I guess that is screwing up the radiant pulses.
I even inserted a 10 uF/35 V cap into the 2ndary winding before the battery plus line, that significantly reduced the amp draw and allows the rotor to run as smooth as with only 1 AA battery at the same amp-draw of below 5 mA.
Unfortunately that somehow kills the charging, seems like the cap filters out all the radiant spikes
Had no other idea how to change the resonance frequency of the coil, inserting another inductor wont do anything either.

Has anyone had similar problems and would have an advice on what to do to
get the resonance out of the circuit?
Thanks in advance,
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:51 PM
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Has anyone an idea how to remove resonance from the coil?
I have tried for days now to do that.
I use my old set-up but i use 12 Volt batteries now, because i want to charge 12 volt batteries and i believe it is not possible to charge a 12 v battery with 2 AA (2.6 Volt) batteries because the spike would not be high enough, at least i had no success when i tried it.
The coil sings on its own even if no magnet is on top of the coil.
if i set the base resistance to high (like 50k +) then the rotor wont spin.
If i set it too low the rotor jumps off the table but even at insane speeds to resonance is still audible and there is pretty much no battery charging
happening while it is resonating. I guess that is screwing up the radiant pulses.
I even inserted a 10 uF/35 V cap into the 2ndary winding before the battery plus line, that significantly reduced the amp draw and allows the rotor to run as smooth as with only 1 AA battery at the same amp-draw of below 5 mA.
Unfortunately that somehow kills the charging, seems like the cap filters out all the radiant spikes
Had no other idea how to change the resonance frequency of the coil, inserting another inductor wont do anything either.

Has anyone had similar problems and would have an advice on what to do to
get the resonance out of the circuit?
Thanks in advance,
Xenomorph
I have been noticing the same thing. When my circuits start doing that I just turn off the circuit, turn the base resistance down, and then start it up again. I found out some time ago that you can get a Bedini SSG circuit to self-oscillate if you slowly increase the resistance on the base high enough. That turns it into a soild state Bedini charger. To me that wasn't a bad thing and I made several and used them on the ignition coil CFL project. You should be getting charging out of yours if it is resonating. When that coil field collaspes that back spike has to go somewhere. Maybe there is a diode problem? To get it to stop I think that I would look at the coil construction or find out how the feedback signal is making its way back to the transistor base.
I also have had very poor luck trying to charge up a larger voltage battery from a smaller one. I think that it could be done with a cap pulser circuit though. Just fill up the cap high enough so that the larger battery will accept the jolt and then zap it.

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Old 07-22-2009, 06:14 PM
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Thanks Lidmotor:

It was 2 things:

1) The battery to be charged is sulphated (has been lying around too long)
2) I replaced the coil with my latest coil which has a very different winding ratio between trigger and pulse coil and that solved the resonance issue.

Probably it would have charged the battery if it hadn´t been sulphated.
I am trying to send it through a couple of discharge/charging cycles in order to desulphate and condition that battery now with the one magnet charger. See how that goes.

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Mostly unrelated to what is currently going on I was going to delete this flawed video and decided to post it instead. It may or may not be common knowledge to some of you. I find the magnet collision spinning effect most interesting. Forgive the bad narration, poor focus and blooper ending
YouTube - Magnet Collision Spin Effects Two 1/4 Inch N42 Magnets

Thanks for watching,

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Old 07-23-2009, 12:42 AM
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Has anyone an idea how to remove resonance from the coil?
I have tried for days now to do that.
I use my old set-up but i use 12 Volt batteries now, because i want to charge 12 volt batteries and i believe it is not possible to charge a 12 v battery with 2 AA (2.6 Volt) batteries because the spike would not be high enough, at least i had no success when i tried it.
The coil sings on its own even if no magnet is on top of the coil.
if i set the base resistance to high (like 50k +) then the rotor wont spin.
If i set it too low the rotor jumps off the table but even at insane speeds to resonance is still audible and there is pretty much no battery charging
happening while it is resonating. I guess that is screwing up the radiant pulses.
I even inserted a 10 uF/35 V cap into the 2ndary winding before the battery plus line, that significantly reduced the amp draw and allows the rotor to run as smooth as with only 1 AA battery at the same amp-draw of below 5 mA.
Unfortunately that somehow kills the charging, seems like the cap filters out all the radiant spikes
Had no other idea how to change the resonance frequency of the coil, inserting another inductor wont do anything either.

Has anyone had similar problems and would have an advice on what to do to
get the resonance out of the circuit?
Thanks in advance,
Xenomorph

Hi Xenomorph,

for as far as i know, and seen , the unwilling resonance only happens to me when i use bateries that have to much amps, whereby the transistor will let it go and stop or sometimes let it run all time without any magnet
starting it, try to use used battries with no to much amps


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Old 07-23-2009, 12:59 AM
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Hi All.

My Bedini Marathon finally stopped, after 13 days and 5 days without solar
my conclusion, at night with solar you can hear that it goes more unstable
but running, when sun comes up, it runs more stabler, without solar it sound like it running but not smooth enough, like it strugeling, but that could also be because of not cleaning/reoling it

i can say that the mini sphere Bedini is a though little thing that will run and run, even the sound becomes a household sound or whereby you can feel how it feels only by the sound the sphere turns
but im sure in a bigger solution, it wil do much better, and extra energyt is available to use

here is the vid
YouTube - One magnet No Bearing Bedini Marathon motor Selfcharging No solar JB part 15 day 13 The End

today i got my shipment in with new magnets, and the biggest sphere i could get from supermagnete.nl, so im ready to do some more new test inc using my levitron, cause i know by fact that a big sphere can levitate by using the levitrons donaut magnet

Peace and Power to keep up the great work you and you all are doing

Greets JB

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Hi Xenomorph,

for as far as i know, and seen , the unwilling resonance only happens to me when i use bateries that have to much amps, whereby the transistor will let it go and stop or sometimes let it run all time without any magnet
starting it, try to use used battries with no to much amps


Greets JB
The whole point was to charge strong 12 Volt batteries.
The resonance will occur also in weaker batteries it is just very silent and weaker.
I am suspecting that when your primary and secondary have equal length then you are likely to run into resonance issues, which as Lidmotor pointed out can be utilized for pure motionless charging.

Good luck with your sphere Levitation
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:54 PM
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Hi All,

i know its off subject, but here is my version of my CFL light
im already using it as an night/mood light

@Lidmotor, and others, Thank you for the inspiration
YouTube - Lighting up CFL fluorescent light with disposeable camera from 1 x 1.5v AA battery part 3 JB

i have already tested the saturn sphere, and its a nice to look at
but ill keep on testing

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Old 07-26-2009, 06:24 AM
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@JonnDavro, Lidmotor -

With all my Respects, just an experiment, is it possible for you to show me how much voltage or amps you can get of an receiving coil, without any circuit connected to it
purely the most millivoltage or more purely from any coil that you have
with any magnet


(my biggest sphere, and bigger then the core does not produce as much voltage/amps as a sphere that is almost the size of the core of the coil)


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Old 07-27-2009, 08:20 PM
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Hi all.Been away on my hols but i am back refreshed now but with a bit of catching up to do with whats been going on here at energetic forum as there are some great threads here at the moment
At first glance,Lidmotor has done some neat stuff with his hall sensor motor and i would love to know how the rpms compare with a transistor ie can the same high speed be obtained?I have some hall effects so i may explore that aspect if lid does not have that info.
@Xenomorph.Regarding the coil resonance.The one magnet Bedini is the only bedini motor i know off which runs best as a motor with such high Base resistance.My 6mm sphere motor can run fast at 101100 ohms.Max Speed was probably between 90000ohms-100000ohms and minamum amp draw, still with high speed-101100ohms.The fact that the coil is in resonance and the 6mm sphere is spinning so fast tells me that the small sphere is spinning in sync with the coil without triggering being necessary.The circuit does not even know the sphere is there.This is radically different to standard Bedini motor operation but with the use of such high base resistances comes an upside and a down side.The upside is the current draw of the motor is miniscule for the rpm's which we can achieve but with this reduced current draw comes the downside with the charging as the coil will not be energised to the same level if a higher current was flowing so the result is a smaller collapsing magnetic field so smaller spike but this is happening a lot faster so you will get more of them all be it smaller.These are just my thoughts so don't take it as gospel as i don't have a scope and i have not tried charging 12v batteries and load testing them so the charging problem is news to me but if so,it may be or maybe not due to the above.
Did we get resonance with a darlington like a TIP 120?I can't remember.
If charging is your goal and i see that you have eliminated the resonance via coil design so if it charges and spins good,thats great but if you still have no joy,maybe a one magnet bedini motor built around a proven solid state charger design could be the answer.I think Jetis and theremart have both built good ones and i see no reason why 6mm sphere's would not spin on one of these.
@Jonnyblade.I see you have got some new magnets so i expect you will be busy building your next motor and i hope you carry on using your own circuits as this is where interesting things are found.
Regarding your pickup coil question.If you look back in the posts,both I and xeno have posted pickup coil outputs but this was loading a cap up.You want to know what the output is accross a 1ohm resistor.I will try and do this for you soon but i am setup at the moment doing a test off an idea Electricme from OU had which from what i can gather,resulted in a self running Bedini motor.It is quite an interesting idea and his post is here if anyone's interested.Regards jonny
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:16 PM
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Hi All,

@JonnDavro: Thnx, only thing i changed in my circuit
is using the caps from a disposeable camera, and from the circuit of a CFL - Greets JB


@All,

ive been doing some small new tests, and i still have to upload more vids
but here are the latest 2 vids,

here im using a bigger sphere 8mm, the 9mm was givin a little less voltage
then the 8mm, but atleast i got a new personal voltage record 66v
YouTube - One magnet No Bearing Bedini motor different setups 66v N38 8mm sphere part 1

and in this vid, im doing the test Like JonnDavro
a big rotor, with the satelites, but nnow my satelite is using its own tube
and it can still produce more voltage then i thought with setup
YouTube - One magnet No Bearing Bedini motor different setups Big Rotor With Satelites in coil tube part 2

i still have to upload some other vids, but my internet keeps on loosing connections
in the other vids i do the Saturn bedini with satelite sphere test, and the double spinning sphere's, and 2 tubes above eachother
and im considering covering and filming when i use the big rotor and the slowly add ferrofluid to it

thnx

Greets JB
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:52 AM
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Mach magnet speed at low amp resonance.

@Jonnydavro. I think your last video on the low amp high speed magnet test needs to be looked at more closely. You demonstrate clearly the suspension of the second law of thermodynamics in your experiment. I believe you are basicly accelerating the magnet on what amounts to radio waves. This discovery is awesome and groundbreaking. It makes no sense to waste power to accelerate the spinning magnet when it picks speed up magically on what amounts to broadcast energy. The power equation reverses itself when Hi frequency power reaches broadcast strength. The signal from your resonating coil has nearly infinite power and could be detected from all points in the universe over the course of time. Coverting this power into physical momentum as you do with your spinning magnet is an accomplishment of high historic significance. Resistence has virtually disappeared but the magnet is somehow getting traction from a hi voltage signal that just passes right through practically evrything else. Just what is really going on between the coil and the magnet may take decades of hard science to determine. Low back spike from Low amp draw is not a liability when the spinning magnet has the potential of generating perhaps thousands of times the input. You sounded pretty excited about wiring output coils to your setup, it appeared like you were on the verge of makeing Earth shaking energy history, I wonder if the consideration of the heavy social and economic consequences of that kind of success has weighted you down? You are the Atlas of Earth's free energy future. Don't loose sight of the awsome nature and importance of your mission, and the true value of your recent accomplishment. I'm hoping you'll retrench and forge ahead toward astounding success.
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Old 07-31-2009, 01:19 PM
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Question Excited Newb have some questions

Hi Guys.

I've been reading up about bedini motors/chargers for almost a year and when I saw this I knew I had too start. I did my first one last weekend from a pc fan and its working ok'ish.

For this project though, I only have magnets for the wheel which I bought a year ago. Is there any way that I would be able to do this experiment with these other box magnets, since it appears that the spike is generated due to the alternating magnetic poles. If i can thus get the magnet to spin around its own axis, it should, in theory, work? Is the egg magnets the same thing in a housing or just an egg shaped magnet? (no need to argue about getting it centered, being dangerous ...)


If this is possible, I should be able to 'attach' two magnets to each other, side by side and and thus have a pulse on every rotation.

My other option is to use an old power supply fan, with the blades removed, as it is basically a circular magnet, with alternating poles.
I'll then have a perfectly balanced magnet with its own much smaller shaft to rotate on.
I know this is a weak magnet, but since I'm not going to spin up satellites should it not work? I'm especially interested in keeping the shaft, for another idea I'm brooding on, but need this one to work first.

I cannot afford new magnets as I am currently between jobs, so I'm trying to find alternatives with what I have.

Thank you all for the results, errors and vids. Without it this bug would not ever have caught me.

Ciao

Jaco
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:12 PM
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Hi Guys.


If this is possible, I should be able to 'attach' two magnets to each other, side by side and and thus have a pulse on every rotation.

Jaco

Hey Jaco, welcome aboard... If you want to build a Bedini top, start reading at post 117 on this thread and see the pictures etc. to see how to do it with rectangular magnets.

Good luck
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Old 07-31-2009, 08:00 PM
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important info

Secordary wire to be 144in lenght with a 22.5mm inch, we have been mislead about the lenght of the inch the primary needs to be the same weight as the secordary.
weights and linear dimensions are interchangeable the being said everthin goes!
185000 miles per second (speed of traversing currents) / 925 (frequency of circuit) = 200 miles (length of
stationary wave) X ¼ = 50 miles (length of secondary coil)
Play around with this formula until you have a secondary length of 144 inches. 144 inches should be based on a
22.5 mm inch.
144 inches = 0.227272727 miles (repeating sequences like these are important)
The number 144 is important because it forms a harmonic with 432. 432:144 = 3:1. 432 is the square root of
the speed of light, 186624.
why 24 mm can’t be used. Have a look at the following.
First Octave
1080 mm / 48 = 22.5 mm
1080 mm / 45 = 24 mm
1080 mm / 42 = 25.714286 mm
Second Octave
3240 mm / 48 = 67.5 mm
3240 mm / 45 = 72 mm
3240 mm / 42 = 77.142857 mm
1080 / 144 = 7.5 – This is no good as there is nothing in the octave first octave corresponding to this number.
3240 / 144 = 22.5 – Here it can be seen that by dividing the root of the second octave by the number
representing our wire length, we get a number which corresponds or resonates on the first octave. The
investigator should at this point
begin to understand that the energy we are trying to get in tune with is on
the second octave, and we must resonate with it on the first.

good luck
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:56 PM
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jumping into Bedini one-magnet discussion

Hello all,

First off - I am very happy and excited to find you all here, as I initially found this topic on YouTube and then to discover that you have expanded your discussions from there to here is wonderful. Look me up on youtube to see my 'contributions' to the bedini ssg and neodymium sphere experiments. I learned from you all - JD, lidmotor, seph, JB, and more, and I thank you for that.

I have seen the same behaviour with my haphazard SSG circuit and coil as that which is described here, the most notable of which are:

i) Resonance at high base resistance, incl. neon staying lit after power disconnected. With a 30K,5W power resistor my circuit hums and stays lit - the magnet will not spin at all, and I have to shut it down quickly because my transistor gets super hot.

ii) Higher RPMs on the magnet equate to lower charge on the capacitor.

iii) Higher input (source) voltage can make the motor/magnet "self-start" (not require a spin to get going).

iv) Adding a second coil on the B1/B2 output lines dramatically increases the charging voltage and the RPMs. Note - I don't have an ammeter so cannot determine the effect on Amp draw.

v) Rodin Coils have interesting effects when used in this device. I am still testing and cataloging these effects, and I may have inspired some others to experiment along these lines as well.

vi) Neodymium sphere magnets are frikkin' fun.

Please note that I did not wind my primary coil myself, I used the leftover from a bifilar spool I bought to create my Rodin Coils with. I was pleasantly surprised when it worked, and I believe it when Bedini says that the size and windings don't *really* matter - it's all the pieces together that matter.

Cheers, and thanks!

- Michael / Geminitric

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Hello all,

First off - I am very happy and excited to find you all here, as I initially found this topic on YouTube and then to discover that you have expanded your discussions from there to here is wonderful. Look me up on youtube to see my 'contributions' to the bedini ssg and neodymium sphere experiments. I learned from you all - JD, lidmotor, seph, JB, and more, and I thank you for that.

I have seen the same behaviour with my haphazard SSG circuit and coil as that which is described here, the most notable of which are:

i) Resonance at high base resistance, incl. neon staying lit after power disconnected. With a 30K,5W power resistor my circuit hums and stays lit - the magnet will not spin at all, and I have to shut it down quickly because my transistor gets super hot.

ii) Higher RPMs on the magnet equate to lower charge on the capacitor.

iii) Higher input (source) voltage can make the motor/magnet "self-start" (not require a spin to get going).

iv) Adding a second coil on the B1/B2 output lines dramatically increases the charging voltage and the RPMs. Note - I don't have an ammeter so cannot determine the effect on Amp draw.

v) Rodin Coils have interesting effects when used in this device. I am still testing and cataloging these effects, and I may have inspired some others to experiment along these lines as well.

vi) Neodymium sphere magnets are frikkin' fun.

Please note that I did not wind my primary coil myself, I used the leftover from a bifilar spool I bought to create my Rodin Coils with. I was pleasantly surprised when it worked, and I believe it when Bedini says that the size and windings don't *really* matter - it's all the pieces together that matter.

Cheers, and thanks!

- Michael / Geminitric

**it is self-limiting to believe that everything you see is everything that is**

Just wanted to you to know that your doing great work
Keep it up

Greets JB
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Old 08-08-2009, 12:54 PM
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Rodin coil is unaffected by satellite magnets,
drawing NO additional current to run 3 satellites.

See video at link Marko Rodin
The 1st "rodin coil" displayed in the video above does not appear to be wound
correctly, it is without empty spaces.

Please NOTE: the author of the video below has an instructional video which
is WRONG on how to wind the Rodin coil.
bedini ssg with rodin coil gives 250% boost
The author above has other "rodin coils" which are not correctly wonnd
Rodin coils.
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:23 PM
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The 1st "rodin coil" displayed in the video above does not appear to be wound correctly, it is without empty spaces.
Just fyi - there is an equal amount of 'space' on that coil as there is on any other. The wires are not wound tightly against each other leaving a large gap at the end - the gaps appear between each wind of wire. Hence the appearance of no space, but in actual fact it has the same division into thirds as the other styles.

(edit - rest moved to Marko Rodin thread)

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Old 08-09-2009, 04:03 AM
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Just fyi - there is an equal amount of 'space' on that coil as there is on any other. The wires are not wound tightly against each other leaving a large gap at the end - the gaps appear between each wind of wire. Hence the appearance of no space, but in actual fact it has the same division into thirds as the other styles.

(edit - rest moved to Marko Rodin thread)
You are probably correct and that would not be a Rodin Coil.
There's two wires: "A" & "B"
3 sets of pins, 12 in each set for a total of 36 pins can be used to lay out the winding of wires "A" and "B".
Each wire is wound separately.
Wire "A" is wound around the 1st set of 12 pins.
Wire "B" is wound around the 2nd set of 12 pins.
Wire "C" does not exist, the 3rd set of 12 pins is Empty space.

"A" and "B" are not wound at the same time.

"No appearance of space" means it IS WOUND WRONG.
The Rodin coil design requires the EMPTY space of the 3rd set that
creates a space for the flux fields to interact.
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Hello Friends

I just decided to pop in and ask... has anyone tried a Hamel spinner design ontop of the 1magnet rotor?

Bedini version of Hamel Spinner

If the hamel spinner sets up magnetic vortex to assist the spin of the magnet alone, then wouldn't that be a good thing to add to this? The only thing I can think of that might not work for this use would be the rotor magnet might spin too fast for the magnetic vortex to catch up. How fast do magnetic vortex's spin anyway? Lol who knows


Aside from that, I got to japan safely and unpacked my lab to find out my bifilar had shorts. I used nail polish to insulate the nicks in the magnetic wire and found out to my dismay that nail polish acts like a paintable resistor! about 1mm of nail polish equals 1 megOhm about. There was about 5 or 6 different types of aluminum powder in it... Really dissapointing for me, so I am rewinding the beast. Every layer (about 40 wraps) gets a plastic insulating layer, and now hot glue is my insulator if choice. This is the 3rd time I have rewound this coil. If it has a short after this I'm going to cry

Anyway my trifilar still works and I am planning on using that somehow. I will start a marathon once the beast is done being wound. Got some solar panels from GADGETMALL that were about 600% cheaper per watt then "The (radio) Shack". I cant wait.

Allright talk to yall later.
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Old 08-22-2009, 09:30 PM
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Hi.After watching Lidmotors latest vid showing his motor running wirelessly,using his version of Dr Stifflers SEC,i thought i would try but using a different approach.I have long been fascinated by plasma globes and i am convinced that there is a lot more to these than it just being a fancy capasitor with the centre ball being one plate and the glass being the other and i have seen some strange sec like effects using plasma globes and i have not quite got my head round Dr Stifflers sec but I am slowly aquiring the parts as it looks great,anyway i found out that you can harvest quite a lot of energy from the air around a plasma globe and i tried it on the one magnet Bedini and it spins great.
This is how i did it.I placed some aluminium trays and a bit of tin foil as i ran out of trays around the plasma globe and fed the energy collected from the air,through a coil in series and then into a bridge rectifier ac input.I had a wire from my earthed kitchen sink going to the rectifiers other ac input.I also had a large cap attached to one of the trays which simulates me holding the tray which increases the voltage on the 1000uf run cap which is charged from the rectifier.The omnbb is then conected to the cap and of it goes.
I first ran the plasma globe from a 12v adapter and it worked great.I then removed that and used a 12v car battery and the results were the same.
I think this could be refined and someone with some knowledge of ariels may be able to help here.Here is a vid of it running.

YouTube - Wireless One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

@Synchro.Thanks for your kind comments and i share your exitement about the 6mm sphere motor.What i find realy interesting is that when it is running at full throttle,about 4-5mA,If i remove the sphere,the circuit still draws 4-5mA as it is in self oscilation as the base resistance is 101100ohms so is the spin for free?
I have continued to work on this motor and have found a few more interesting things which i hope to develop and will share as i work through them.
With regards to Marko Rodin.His Coil does seem to do some strange stuff with the monopoles and such and was blown away with his use off satellites and cylinder magnets.Do you think he has had a peek at what we are up to?
@geminitric.Welcome.I found your vids fascinating and i think you need to do a sound analysis of the rpms you are getting with your 1" sphere as they sound insane for such a large magnet.I hope to replicate your work but i will need some help with the coil winding etc.
Regards jonny
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