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Old 08-29-2008, 05:11 PM
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Additional Coils on Bedini?

I read what Tom Bearden was saying to Jean Louis Naudin:

Jean Louis,

Yes, I think you captured it precisely. In real circuits similar to that one you drew and animated, one should place a diode in the "back emf line" from the ground to the high side, so that current can only pass in the normal one-way direction in the circuit once the "potentializing source" is switched away. In theory, a coil of degenerate semiconductor material can also be "charged with pure potential without initial current" in this fashion. There is no violation of energy conservation.

Another way of looking at the switched degenerate semiconductor circuit is that one charges it with voltage only, completely statically, with no j(phi) current permitted during "excitation" or "potentialization". One then switches the voltage source away, having drawn only potential from it and not power, and the circuit then changes itself and dissipates this excess "static" energy in the load, by automatically converting itself into a normal dynamic conducting circuit as the electrons "relax" and move as current. Energy is energy, whether static or dynamic. Yet just to transfer energy alone, does not require work (at least in theory; in the real world one must pay for some switching costs to get it all timed and switched).




My question for Aaron is: if i construct an additional bifilar coil with another material with a superior relaxation time, and if do the switching like in the sg , i will recover more radiant energy in my pulse motor???


The theory answer is YES? The magnets in the sg are pure potential , virtual photon flux, this is the message before the switch closes, and after that the switch (transistor ) is on another message is passed and after the current is passed trough the coil, that is why i believe that the motor energizer is better than a simple solid state oscillator.
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Trying to increase voltage in the power coil (with the magnets) before the transistor switch on will produce a "higher spike" in theory.

I donīt believe in Sg theory that is simple back emf... Simple back emf production decreases after frequency (of the switch on switch off) increases.

It is my analysis and my point of view, nothing more, i could be very wrong, please correct me.
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Try to develop that idea is great...

Something like your idea to try find (collector, relaxation time) is in my mind some time ago, Bearden called "Colector" as a conductor with high relaxion time, because copper has a relaxion time very very short. Bearden purposes is a alloy 98% aluminium with 2% iron, this alloy is hard to obtain. Berdens says that this alloy has a relaxion time aprox 100 ms.

The theory is this colector conducts differential potential but avoid electrons kill this potential when get in to from negative to positive.

Berden in Free Energy Generation book says that colector can be a capacitor or coil. But if this coil is copper wire I could need so much copper to reach high relaxation time?.

Take a look over Bedini SG schematic, we can see the bifilar coil if you look the entire system is a pulsed system but in the system we can put the diode on colector's transistor, that catch fastly the radiant energy before goes to terminal battery. We can see that transistors is a semiconductor, and take a time reach the total conduction and take a time left the conduction.

By this reasen in cheniere.org, we can see a schematic where Bearden try by using a capacitor as colector ("Use of Step-Charged Capacitor as the Collector"), charge capacitor, and dump his potential on the load.

Look the schematic ( if you did not know them)

I've the FEG book Concepts and principles.

I would like work on this concept, if you want we can try it to share our results and improvements.
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Oh yes!!!!

Si podemos me encanta la teoria de Bearden, es mas la he entendido muy bien, creo que este hombre tiene razon, me parte el corazon que los cientificos no pongan sus teorias como la verdad absoluta, lo que quiero decir, Bearden es el mejor fisico teorico que he visto en temas de energia electromagnetica.
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I think that Bedini system is based 100% Bearden theory and the answer is YES if you have a large coil you will collect more energy! The magnets are doing work here , not only for rotatory purposes...

If you collect with a diode bridge in a high impedance coil with south and north magnets this will behave like a generator, plus you will have to do the inverse switching in order to repel south.
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I've the FEG book Concepts and principles. Me too.
I like Canon in D song.... hahahaha

I want to do the two generator functions, more radiant and more normal power.

I think whats bearden want to collect is the radiant energy that is not the normal back emf , it is the back emf plus vacuum interactions that generates amplification of power.

A magnet has a infinite loop of virtual photon constantly moving through the vacuum, the vacuum is the same arrangement of virtual photons in a static fashion, the magnet is moving the virtual photons in order to generate a dynamic energy field, the magnet field is dynamic not static is usable energy all the time.

I think that the actual bedini machine is a prototype... Not a real complete energizer, these motors/generators are the toys of the alien children.
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From Bedini foreward pages:




Then if we keep adding potential to trigger the system we can get all that "potential" to translate into "free electrical energy".

Conventionally "electrostatic scalar potential" is composed of work or energy per column of charged particle mass. So if we add potential alone, without the mass flow, to a system of oscillating charged particles, we add "physical energy" in the entire charged particle system

In other words, the "potential" we add is converted directly into "ordinary energy" by the imbedded ions in the system. If we are clever we don't have to furnish any pushing energy to move pure potential around.


Now this "free energy resonant coupling" can be done in a simple, cheap system. You don't need big cyclotrons and huge laboratories to do it; you can do it with ordinary D.C. motors, batteries, controllers and trigger circuits.


That is the original idea from John i think that he wanted to amplify the energy.

Foreward: Bedini says: You don't need big cyclotrons and huge laboratories to do it

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Then if we keep adding potential to trigger the system we can get all that "potential" to translate into "free electrical energy".
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I use a generator coil on a bedini system, i shorted out the coil to get some radiant energy, using the power from the magnets. This is the final proof for Thomas Bearden concepts.

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Yes.... It's true, I've built a system for extracting energy from the vacuum directly from the coil WITHOUT INPUT FROM THE PRIMARY SOURCE. This explains, source of energy from Bedini system to charge the battery. This open the real way to get COP infinite, it's possible extract this energy WITHOUT DRAG HELPING THE ROTOR TO GET HIGHER SPEED AT SAME TIME.

I'm building another circuit to reutilize this energy and send it to the same coil. Getting up the COP to SCALAR RYTHM.

All how I've explained last days, when I invented was by joining with hand both wires coil, then my mind told me: There is some spikes, for connect a load is weake but why there is sparks here?.

In your replication of my proof of concept neon no glow maybe because is for high volts, I used 80 volts neon. But how I told you by IM, MSN, you need first, neon bulb with less voltage, second, higher rpm, third, low gap.

Then 28 December 2008. I've repeated that last experiment putting the neon in paralel with the reed (corrected), and nearing on the magnets, EFFECTIVILLY NEON GLOW TOTALLY, THIS IS RADIANT ENERGY.


31 Dec 2008, I've build the system with mosfets, and another devices to get a better efficience, work great, producing energy without incresing amp drawing from the motor, then I've calibrated all the system I've wasted 3 days to get the pefect callibration of switches, then when I put a load on output the ROTOR GET HIGHER RPM's ALL DRAG IS ELIMINATED, PERFETLY CHARGE A 200 VOLT X 200 uf CAP.
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Why are people trying to do underunity devices when a pulse motor with recovery is a true overunity device? The system charges the battery plus a mechanical force is delivered in order to use this as a generator.

The neon glows, i have no camera. sorry no photos.

The mosfet is connected on the two wires of the coil, some energy must be delivered in order to do the switching of the mosfet, but it is in order of microamps, so this radiant energy is full produced by the magnet, i mean we are extracting the power from the magnets.
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If you neon NO GLOW you have no radiant energy....

My configuration was get better. I've omitted some of my setup to avoid the claim can be stolen. Like Tesla, Bedini, Ed Gray.... NEON MUST BE GLOWING.

I put a load on the output AND RPM IS HIGHER, only putting two wires on the mosfet COIL GENERATE DRAG ON THE ROTOR AND RADIANT ENERGY IS NOT EXTRACTED BECAUSE IS LIKE A GAS.

WHEN YOU EXTRACT NATURAL GAS FROM THE EARTH YOU NEED PUMPS, VALVES AND STORAGE.

1) I've invented, designed my setup respecting all step on Bearden's theory REGAUGING.

2) I've named the setup: RADIANT AUTOGENERATOR COIL.

3) I've be trying to explain you how works, but was impossible you don't understand, you need first, test the proof of concepts.

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Ok

Jim's Free Energy Main Magnetic Motor page

In this page appear the claim, appearently, works like mine, but where is the schematic?

There is no aclaration about 1000rpm @ 8 volts, is bad how can produce 8 volts and glow the neon?

Says: "I get a good amount of voltage. ( 200 to 400 volts)"

It's correct me too

Says:
"..... Usually drawing power from a coil on a motor will load the motor down. "
"It is difficult to determine that exact magnetic results when this voltage appears because the coil is being shorted for a very brief time. I have also found that using the voltage at the time it is produced does put a minor load on the motor. "

It's Correct me too...

I've designed & invented a circuit to produce that results, my system guaranteed NO DRAG EFFECT ON THE MOTOR, for that replication seems hard.

My circuit has no drag effect. produce radiant energy, I THINK BEDINI USE SOME SEEMED TO THIS, I DON'T BELIEVE (FOR ME AT LEAST CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT HIS BIG MACHINE ALL COILS DRAW ENERGY FROM MAIN BATTERY.

When I get finish my design I'll show to everybody here in energetic forum
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Well,
it only drags Power from the Motor, when you only use the AC from teh Coil.
When you put a Diode at one End from the Coil, the drag is less.
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Hey I've found hhahahahahh on the logo in that web page uhhhh

Look the image hahahah .gif animated. I't's incredible,

In our eyes I had not seen that pic... That answer my questions in my mind..



Whe is the schematic, plans?




I've built a circuit and works like that. Yes Adams had patented that idea but where is the schematic?

I'm working on it, soon I'll SHOW MY SCHEMATIC TO REPLICATE IT.


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Came across this link and thought it noteworthy

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Patmac, the generator coil on this way, helps the rotor and generates radiant energy.
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