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Old 09-11-2012, 05:06 AM
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Anyone have opinions about R-Charge.net?

Has anyone ordered from R-Charge.net? I was thinking about purchasing a kit from there. Just curious.
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Yes - many of their customers contact us for customer service since we actually return messages. You can see that John has links to Tesla Chargers on his own homepage: Welcome to John Bedini

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If you're going to order renewabe energy products, they are recommended.
Fast shipping too and will ship to an address other than what's on a card.

Last year, I built up a 6 coiler version of the 3PM Bedini energizer motor for a friend. He sent the parts for the original 3 coil kit and I built it, was happy to do so as a learning experience. I'd never even built an SSG homemade type version of it and so had to go along step by step and I explained we'd have to order parts, some of which I didn't know what they would be.
Orders were placed with R-Charge by the friend, shipments arrived promptly to my address.
IIRC one coil was a different gauge to that ordered. He rang them and another coil was shipped out - free !

They often use salvaged boxes to ship things, anything strong and up to the job. Not skeepskate kind of practices, just highly practical.
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12 pole monopole

I buy a Benini 12 Pole Monopole one year ago, and today i trie to charge one battery and no charge nothing.i trien on one coil,two coil ...l and nothing. I pay $4,800 to this.
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I just got my solar tracker 60amp.So what size battery bank do I get (how many amp hours/watts)
Do I get two battery banks one charging one on load & should the amp hours relate to the load so that the batteries are fully dischared then recharged the next day.
Can any one help.
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I think their customer service is pretty poor. I purchased an 8-circuit circuit board and received no documentation. After have a dozen emails and no response, I spent a couple of weeks searching the internet to figure out how to build the board. Maybe they will be better if you spend more money with them.
By the way, this board has no silk screening either so I hope I built is correctly and I not real sure how to hook up the batteries or the coil.
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Satisfied. Responded to the mails and sent very fast.

Now waiting for the order to reach Europe..
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I've a problem with my order of large 10 pole generator.
Paid 15th aug, already more than 2 months passed.
Write few e-mails, and no answer at all.
Very poor client support, I didn't understand what happen at the moment.

Can anyone from forum admins help me to contact r-charge and ask them to write me any info on my order.

p.s. Yuri from Russia, e-mail boo050@gmail.com
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Would i do it again. For the design perhaps.

(heads up, i complain a lot here but there are STILL a lot of good reasons to see it through with R-charge. Please read to the end.) Warning its a long story.

At the time that I purchased my 4 dual pole (32 circuit) motor/generator from Rick at R-charge around last feb (2014), i was unaware that John and Rick had parted company. Before i ordered, I talked on the phone with Rick and inquired about shipping expectations. He explained that they were in the process of moving their shop location, however gave no indication that it would take longer that 3 months lead time. It was after all, the very reason i was calling, to know if there would be additional delays. I waited a couple weeks past the 3 month lead time before contacting them about the late delivery.

After 3.5 months my messages went ignored entirely at first. I've had to deal with horrible vendor experiences online in the past and I have a hard time ignoring the delay when there is NO communication. Being ignored and not getting a response at all was BY FAR the worst part. At around 4.5 months I wound up yelling at both Rick and his helper on the phone and threatening legal action. Being ignored was inexcusable in my opinion and I told them i'd be driving down there in person and demanding a refund in the form of a lean if nessecary. It became very complicated because they had shipped out a partial bunch of parts all the while never giving me a parts list to reference. I never really knew where I stood at with the order, however i was missing the coils (most critical and costly components). I'll avoid getting into every single detaill, however it was about 5 and a half months before I appeared to have all of the motor generator kit components.

Following that i had to contact them to request a schematic. I'd built multi-coil single trigger bedini motors before so i had a decent fundamental understanding. However, I needed the opto circuit diagram in order to get it right. I never intended to pay good money to have to hypothesize on the component arrangement. I was told that they'd send out the schematics right away. I waited another week and a half for an email and still nothing. Finally i phoned and freaked out completely. I sorta snapped entirely and i had let my frustration get the better of me. I suddenly became very exhausted of the entire experience and the very worst part of it all, I'd paid over 2 thousand dollars to become completely discouraged with the entire line of research. I took all the passive components, rotor discs, bearings, frame and packed it into a box and put it away where i wouldn't have to see it. I don't have much money. This was my research nest egg. I felt horrible about it all and the stress of it was making me sick. Suddenly i received an email with the schematics. Turned out Rick had been in Germany doing a build for a conference there. I still didn't understand the delay. Emailing a schematic shouldn't take 2 weeks after all the previous delay. I guess i took it as a final insult and It left me with the impression that he didn't want me to have it to begin with. I'm not certain that was a valid assumption.

Its hard to explain, but it has really taken me a long time to get motivated again. It was more than a year after i'd ordered the kit before i dusted off the box, printed off the schematics and decided i'd begin assembling. I think that the problem was that i'd known that i would be watching Rick's assembly videos. In my heart I have always known Rick was a well meaning individual somehow. You can tell by his demeanor that he is a kind person. My problem was that i'd gotten angry with him and was riddled with guilt over it. It was his videos that taught me how to wind my first bedini fan motor and mono pole ssg wheel. I was looking forward to an amicable relationship with Rick and R-charge. As i had mentioned i wasn't aware of any discord between him and John Bedini at that time. I'd hoped that he'd become my vicarious link to John Bedini himself, but since i last contacted them about the schematic, i've not sought Rick or R-charge out for anything further. Circumstances and my own inability to control my temper had spoiled it. I choked it all down and got down to business.


I built the kit. The parts, aside from a couple small bolts for the rubber legs, were all there. During the interm Rick had produced a number of instructional videos showing the different aspects of the 4 pole and 10 pole motors which were helpful. The kit went together beautifully.


I managed to get the opto running correctly on the first try and i have been loving the performance. Its easy to adjust and time the opto rotor. The torque and mechanical output on the 4 dual pole motor is remarkable.


Currently i'm running it off of my 1.3kw solar array and 12 - 130ah @ 12volt deep cycle batteries (arranged series @24volts) as the permanent primary input and have 16 more of the same batteries (2 banks of 8 batteries) dedicated to cold charging from direct radiant energy only and cycled on to the 3800watt 24volt AC inverter for house hold consumption. 4 of the charge batts have been running strictly on radiant charging for a 1.5 years now (ceiling fan motor) already and are much more accepting of a quick radiant recharge. The others are still becoming conditioned. The motor (with a small fan for cooling as a very small mechanical load) is drawing roughly 20amps and outputting about 65-70% back as cold charging @ 24volts.


The dual rotors provide a pretty heavy draw through the 32 circuits and I find you need to be careful not to over drive the transistors and diodes until you have your primary and secondary load impedance values figured out for your typical running conditions. Also have to be certain to ALWAYS have a load between the collector and the emitter (I'm using 150volt neons) as a safety in case your secondary bank becomes disconnected. I now realize how much more important it is to be wary of this issue while driving heavy amps. It only takes a second to fry a pile of diodes and transistors and you will lose that snap in your coils reducing the generated radiant current through to the secondary. I purposely salvaged a neutral bar terminal block from a sub panel to allow easy disconnect and testing of each circut in case something like that happened. Which it did. I wound up replacing 7 - MJL21194s and about as many diodes. Very hard to properly detect the potential performance issue with a meter while still connected to the entire circuit. many burnt circuits will still run with about half the vigor as with new components, making them hard to read unless you can run it separate and confirm that it is triggering in a snappy fashion. This is VERY important IMO.

Now i'm putting together the generator side of the motor/generator. I found an amazing deal for (never used) 6800uf 400volt Hitachi capacitors @ $20.00 ($300 new) on ebay, i've ordered opto, transitor, microcontroller to trigger a SCR. I have 15lbs of 18 AWG to wind the 4 generator coils ( i estimate they will use roughly 3.5lbs each). R-charge did include the second timing rotor and shaft tensioner components. I'm very excited at this point. During the peak hours of the day when i typically see 900watts from my 1.3kw solar array, instead of boiling my 12 (positive ion charged) batteries and causing sulfation, i'm now able to off set up to 500watts with a 6" cooling fan attached to the shaft as a mechanical load which thermally protects the transistor circuits. Current is now cold charging 2 separate banks and is not lost to heat dissapation. This has seemingly already doubled the output of my solar array as far as useful energy and will greatly reduce the sulfation of my primary battery banks which never run in the secondary position typically. I may do a desulfation on them at some time in the future if they begin to decrease in amp hours though to recondition them if need be.

Wow. way too long. i better wrap it up. i'll follow up as i set up my generator coils and start using the output.
Thanks for your interest and giving me a place to rant for awhile. :P
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I can't see any evidence on r-charge.net of details of the performance of their products. Without this, what is the point?
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I can't see any evidence on r-charge.net of details of the performance of their products. Without this, what is the point?
Hi wrtner. How are you? Rick has a number of videos on his youtube channel that i'm certain your aware of? Although he doesn't make any specific claims in them, you can get a better idea of what the suggested benefits are in some of those videos. I'm curious if you've done any of the Bedini monopole SSG experiments for your self? I certainly don't expect you to take my word for it alone. However, I can pretty safely say that many here have and can establish that even on the basis of radiant charging by itself, the input/output COP is remarkable in batteries that are conditioned to charge with this form of energy production over an extended period of time. One must be willing to do the experiments properly to witness this for themselves to become convinced of this i'm afraid. If in fact you have not? These have to be the simplest circuits to build and run, once you have a even a moderate amount of experience with them. I'm no electrical engineer, but after 6 years of experimenting with these motors, my confidence in the validity of their potential has only grown stronger over time. That said, i have been purchasing hall effect instrumentation and fluke true RMS data logging meters recently in an attempt to provide better data for my presentation of this technology. I will attempt to try and document the actual data of a large number of charge/discharge cycles to better analyze the amp hour output of my 2 secondary banks (over a period of years if possible) that specifically only run my inverted load daily for house hold consumption. It would be nice to do a study on a static set of banks over a long period of time and that is my intention. No COP analysis can be done with out more data in my case, so all i can do at this time is present my observations. Take them for what they are.

As far as what i can speak to at this moment, the benefits of cold charging large deep cycle banks utilizing solar array output as a primary source of input to the energy equation are big enough on their own to warrant using this method of charging. I was able to establish this fact with my ceiling fan multi-coil 4 pole ssg that i build from scratch and modified over the years. If I hadn't done that and witnessed the properties of the purely radiantly charged batteries in action for myself, I wouldn't have been able to afford to spend the money on the 4 dual pole motor/generator kit that R-charge retails. If you read my previous posting in this thread, you might realize how seriously i take my expenditures. (a rich man I am not, i'm forced to take my investment into renewable energy very seriously) Most solar arrays typically are unable to make use of the peak energy input into the system during full sunlight exposure, forcing a large portion of excess produced energy to be wasted on boiling and off gassing fully charged battery banks or is wasted as heat in a overload dissipation coil during full sun exposure due to an over abundance of positive ion bombardment, typically causing heavy sulfation of the battery anode. It is truly difficult to properly harness all of the output from a decent sized solar array, unless your in the habit of running a full kilowatt of energy during that time of day (In my case and experience it can be difficult at best). This causes fairly rapid deterioration of the batteries as they off gas and boil at their peak 29volt position (24volt array). I have 28 - 130 amp hour deep cycle batteries in my storage banks. Each one retails at $170 a piece ( I do get a slightly better price ). That is $4760 (@retail) in deep cycle battery storage alone. Anyone who is charging/discharging lead acid batteries on a daily basis will receive great benefits from the utilization of radiant energy. If you state otherwise i will become HUGELY insistent that you are mistaken. I see this benefit every day I live my life. That alone is one very good reason to experiment with bedini motor/generators. My models COP will need to be addressed better once i have my generator coils installed into the motor/generator. You see i'm only using 1 of the 2 energy output components of this device at this time.



Once I add 15 pounds of inductive generating coils that will harvest the pure mechanical energy of the two big spinning rotors to the equation, that is when the scales are going to tip(those 4 empty gaps in my motor are for generating coils). As you increase the load, so does the charging. When utilizing big banks as i have, the amps are a issue in conditioning them from brand new. They become more receptive over time. Sometimes its nice to drive amps at them, and other times you can lightly charge them and still see great effect (which is preferred).

Its doing everything that is promised so far in my experience. I do not condition or normalize the generated radiant energy output from the motor into a cap dump system for the simple reason that i have seen the enhanced performance that is produced when you allow the negative dipole of the batteries in the secondary position to strengthen over a period of time and many charge/discharge cycles. To establish this kind of growth, you should not rotate negatively charged banks into the primary position in the circuit for this matter. This is why i charge two separate banks with only pure radiant energy and cycle them directly onto my inverter load to discharge, and never back into the primary position. As they are in a Tesla "switch" series arrangement, you will instantly reverse the dipole condition of the negatively charged battery if you do so, and you will never fully realize the negative potential that is produced. IMO cap dump systems for conditioning the output current are great for batteries that are multi-purposed and not specifically dedicated to serving a separate inverter load. If they regularly receive both positive and negative ion charging then it becomes beneficial to cap dump them to achieve a greater output as their negative potential state is undone when the anode is receiving positive ions. In essence wasting the work done through much of the negative charging. That is a key issue that i feel is over looked by many researchers who study Bedini motor/generators.

I think i'm getting WAY off the OP's intended line of discussion perhaps and I may need to start my own thread for more documentation of my situation. I hope i haven't repeated myself too much or come across as a "know it all". Which i emphatically do not. I do a lot of this , and that is how i force the information into place.

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Thanks for your reply, thedude, but if they want to sell units to anyone, let alone members of the public, they need to provide a reason to believe that their products are better than what can be picked up in Halfords or Argos (or can be knocked together with a transformer, FWBR and maybe a small moving iron meter).
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Same Specifications?

Taking the 2A12 Battery Charger Rejuvenator as an example;
which are sold by r-charge.net as RC-2A12 and
teslachargers.com as 2A12.
Are they considered to be identical in feature and technical capabilities?
Or are these firms only competitors and develop similar products?
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Hi wrtner. How are you? Rick has a number of videos on his youtube channel that i'm certain your aware of? Although he doesn't make any specific claims in them, you can get a better idea of what the suggested benefits are in some of those videos. I'm curious if you've done any of the Bedini monopole SSG experiments for your self? I certainly don't expect you to take my word for it alone. However, I can pretty safely say that many here have and can establish that even on the basis of radiant charging by itself, the input/output COP is remarkable in batteries that are conditioned to charge with this form of energy production over an extended period of time. One must be willing to do the experiments properly to witness this for themselves to become convinced of this i'm afraid. If in fact you have not? These have to be the simplest circuits to build and run, once you have a even a moderate amount of experience with them. I'm no electrical engineer, but after 6 years of experimenting with these motors, my confidence in the validity of their potential has only grown stronger over time. That said, i have been purchasing hall effect instrumentation and fluke true RMS data logging meters recently in an attempt to provide better data for my presentation of this technology. I will attempt to try and document the actual data of a large number of charge/discharge cycles to better analyze the amp hour output of my 2 secondary banks (over a period of years if possible) that specifically only run my inverted load daily for house hold consumption. It would be nice to do a study on a static set of banks over a long period of time and that is my intention. No COP analysis can be done with out more data in my case, so all i can do at this time is present my observations. Take them for what they are.

As far as what i can speak to at this moment, the benefits of cold charging large deep cycle banks utilizing solar array output as a primary source of input to the energy equation are big enough on their own to warrant using this method of charging. I was able to establish this fact with my ceiling fan multi-coil 4 pole ssg that i build from scratch and modified over the years. If I hadn't done that and witnessed the properties of the purely radiantly charged batteries in action for myself, I wouldn't have been able to afford to spend the money on the 4 dual pole motor/generator kit that R-charge retails. If you read my previous posting in this thread, you might realize how seriously i take my expenditures. (a rich man I am not, i'm forced to take my investment into renewable energy very seriously) Most solar arrays typically are unable to make use of the peak energy input into the system during full sunlight exposure, forcing a large portion of excess produced energy to be wasted on boiling and off gassing fully charged battery banks or is wasted as heat in a overload dissipation coil during full sun exposure due to an over abundance of positive ion bombardment, typically causing heavy sulfation of the battery anode. It is truly difficult to properly harness all of the output from a decent sized solar array, unless your in the habit of running a full kilowatt of energy during that time of day (In my case and experience it can be difficult at best). This causes fairly rapid deterioration of the batteries as they off gas and boil at their peak 29volt position (24volt array). I have 28 - 130 amp hour deep cycle batteries in my storage banks. Each one retails at $170 a piece ( I do get a slightly better price ). That is $4760 (@retail) in deep cycle battery storage alone. Anyone who is charging/discharging lead acid batteries on a daily basis will receive great benefits from the utilization of radiant energy. If you state otherwise i will become HUGELY insistent that you are mistaken. I see this benefit every day I live my life. That alone is one very good reason to experiment with bedini motor/generators. My models COP will need to be addressed better once i have my generator coils installed into the motor/generator. You see i'm only using 1 of the 2 energy output components of this device at this time.



Once I add 15 pounds of inductive generating coils that will harvest the pure mechanical energy of the two big spinning rotors to the equation, that is when the scales are going to tip(those 4 empty gaps in my motor are for generating coils). As you increase the load, so does the charging. When utilizing big banks as i have, the amps are a issue in conditioning them from brand new. They become more receptive over time. Sometimes its nice to drive amps at them, and other times you can lightly charge them and still see great effect (which is preferred).

Its doing everything that is promised so far in my experience. I do not condition or normalize the generated radiant energy output from the motor into a cap dump system for the simple reason that i have seen the enhanced performance that is produced when you allow the negative dipole of the batteries in the secondary position to strengthen over a period of time and many charge/discharge cycles. To establish this kind of growth, you should not rotate negatively charged banks into the primary position in the circuit for this matter. This is why i charge two separate banks with only pure radiant energy and cycle them directly onto my inverter load to discharge, and never back into the primary position. As they are in a Tesla "switch" series arrangement, you will instantly reverse the dipole condition of the negatively charged battery if you do so, and you will never fully realize the negative potential that is produced. IMO cap dump systems for conditioning the output current are great for batteries that are multi-purposed and not specifically dedicated to serving a separate inverter load. If they regularly receive both positive and negative ion charging then it becomes beneficial to cap dump them to achieve a greater output as their negative potential state is undone when the anode is receiving positive ions. In essence wasting the work done through much of the negative charging. That is a key issue that i feel is over looked by many researchers who study Bedini motor/generators.

I think i'm getting WAY off the OP's intended line of discussion perhaps and I may need to start my own thread for more documentation of my situation. I hope i haven't repeated myself too much or come across as a "know it all". Which i emphatically do not. I do a lot of this , and that is how i force the information into place.

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Nice motor/Gen do you have a video of it running?

Do you have any protection circuitry incase of a broken plate

on your 24vdc battery? Or incase of an open circuit? Say the

circuit would shut down after 100volts?

I would hate to see your circuit go up.
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Taking the 2A12 Battery Charger Rejuvenator as an example;
which are sold by r-charge.net as RC-2A12 and
teslachargers.com as 2A12.
Are they considered to be identical in feature and technical capabilities?
Or are these firms only competitors and develop similar products?
I am not sure on the evolution of that company after he screwed

John Bedini. When my brother called down there to buy something they

said the company was going out of business. I think after the court

proceedings that company kept going.

In the beginning they had a 100' coil of 18ga wire with 8 strands

and as long as they use a good coil the static charger should

serve the purpose of multi-function battery charger. This site has

a better version at TESLA CHARGERS look at the top of this page.


I see people on youtube using a block transformer to get an

inductive spike into their battery and it works just find. If you

really want to get a well rounded package that operates in more

than just 1 mode of the other, better go to the best.


I build my own coils and also use GENERATOR MODE too. Like DUDE

said sometimes I charge one way and sometimes the other and

your batteries last forever if they are handled properly.


Mine is just a charger not a wheel with magnets. Just a circuit and

coil (twisted Bedini Litz coil)


I guess it depends on what you are after. Most buy an inductive

charger to save their dying battery banks that cost lots a money.


Beyond that is the quest for self running using many other functions

than a simple charger can offer costing into the thousands after

man hours. Also don't forget to devote an entire room or shop to

the setup that many will never have space for.

If you are able to run the gamut of research into the Bedini radiant

stuff you will be a changed man for life, provided you knew what

conventional circuits have had to offer for the last 100 years.
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Well I think the 2A12-circuits are allmost identical.
They are cap-dump circuits . Not necessarily equiped with an indutance.
All further info about cap dump circuits you can get here:
Bedini Comparator Cap Dump - Page 8
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Hi TheDude,
Did the #18 gen coils give desired results?
Thanks,
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PS I've sent a private message to you Sir.
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Hi TheDude,
Did the #18 gen coils give desired results?
Thanks,
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PS I've sent a private message to you Sir.
Hi Donald,
I sent you a PM on the cap dump setup i'm using but will reiterate for anyone looking to follow what i'm doing out of interest. I just uploaded my first running video of the 4 dual pole Bedini motor here. In regard to the generator coils, the 18 guage wire i ordered on ebay showed up short in length and in a tangled mess. I was very disappointed. I ended up having to splice it together and used 2 different types to try and finish up the coils just to reassemble the motor. Ultimately i ended up with 4 gen coils of completely different impedance. I'm currently running them through a bridge rectifier and cap dumping them onto a 12 volt bank that runs my bedini ceiling fan 24/7 with the assistance of a small 50 watt solar panel. The bedini ceiling fan (4 coiler) draws .450 amps @ 12+ volts and charges to additional 120 amp hour deep cycle bats the same as in my main motor. So my generator coils on the 4 dual pole motor do not have much of a load on them, but i do have a cree LED array that they are easily capable of lighting. I need to work on adding more of a load and rewinding better coils for the generator side to test adding a load to the mechanical side of things. One thing i do know is that the motor is capable of accepting a considerable mechanical load with out increasing the total amp draw by much more than 10% and also increases the charging on the secondary as a side benefit to the load. I'm planning on adding on to the shaft with a large set of 8 coils at a much closer proximity to test with on the outside of the back of the motor in the future. Just something to think about at this point.

I now have 2 timing wheels on the interior of my wheel hub. One with 8 open gaps for the opto sensor and micro-controller to trigger the 2N3440 transistor and then to gate MJL21194 that runs to the 4 (8 circuit) boards, and then a separate timing wheel with only 1 gap that triggers once per rotor revolution. Meaning my capacitors gather 8 cycles or magnet passes before triggering the opto controller to the 2N3440 and out to the gate of a VS - 50RIA100 Thyristor SCR that dumps the Caps onto my charging battery bank. This seems to work quite well and self regulates the voltage on the caps to around 3-6 volts above the value of the charging battery bank automatically, regardless of 12 or 24 volts. I have come to re-think my theory that pure radiant as opposed to conditioned radiant through the caps would react differently to produce a positive ion charge on the secondary banks. I don't believe it does (no real reason to think so IMO) as i've seen no usual signs of positive ion charging on the banks since i've started cap dumping. In other words it shouldn't affect the dipole condition of the secondary banks adversely I hope.

I also attempted to run my set up in Generator mode as in the Advanced Bedini Handbook or "Common bond" or "boost" mode. And i found that it worked quite well for increasing the amps by nearly double on both the input and output banks. The charging was much faster, however with the heavy fly wheels in the r-charge motors, i fear that the temperatures on the circuits was becoming problematic. I assembled a Velluman relay kit to duty cycle the motor on for 1 min and back off for 2 min automatically. (would auto start before the rotor would wind down) through usb on a computer. I also was experimenting with using my copper ribbon Tesla pancake coil as a self inducing capacitor. At some point i did some damage to my 1N5408 diodes and caused some leaking and lost some of the snap in my coils. I explain much of this in my recent video above. The damage may also have been caused by having run my motor without the secondary hooked up for about a full minute before i noticed a distinct sound difference and checked to realize what i'd done. My Neon bulbs likely saved the mjl21194 transistors. but i believe i had damaged the diodes at that point or when testing with the pancake coil. While testing with the pancake coil, my amps were greatly increased (secondary banks would jump up over 30 volts nearly instantaneously) and i needed to increase the resistance on the base of my gate transistor to avoid lighting the neon bulbs while in full operation (could only stand running it like that for very short durations). So in other words i really played around and experimented and now after fixing the motor (much harder to work on now with all the peripherals), i'm a little hesitant to run it in generator mode. Regular run mode is more than sufficient to charge my alternating inverter banks (one charges while the other discharges) and i really don't want to compromise the system. That said i will still definitely run the motor in generator mode in order to video document the increase in amps on both primary output and secondary input. I believe that the ratio works out better in generator mode from my experience with it and i would like to know if it is viable with this setup in the long term. One thing i do know is that i didn't obviously damage my transistors in my testing as i still have a good snap in the coils when applying sudden current while the rotor is at a dead stop. So if i end up having leaking diodes (fairly easy to notice), at least those aren't that hard to rectify (pun intended). I have lots of them and can swap them relatively easily. Transistors, on the other hand, are much more expensive and harder to solder and replace with my setup. I now have a good stock of diodes and i'm preparing to make another video. I'll put a meter on the capacitors to show the dump cycle and take a few shots of the schematic that i used. It is similar to the one on this page http://www.panaceatech.org/John%20Bedini%20Technology.pdf (under roamers schematic about a quarter of the way down)

Sorry for the slow reply to this thread. I seem to have the time to work on these projects now and i'm looking forward to updating a little more often.
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Darcy Klyne

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Nice motor/Gen do you have a video of it running?

Do you have any protection circuitry incase of a broken plate

on your 24vdc battery? Or incase of an open circuit? Say the

circuit would shut down after 100volts?

I would hate to see your circuit go up.
Hey Mikey! Sorry so late responding here. I'll be around more often in the future. I appreciate your concern sir. Here is my first video of the motor in operation >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OBRr8VVDE I'll be making many more now.
I run a 40 amp protection fuse across all the power (+) coils on the way into the circuit boards as well as 4 - 150 volt neon bulbs in the event of a secondary load disconnect. Aside from that, i don't often leave the vicinity of my device while running it. However i have been running it daily for over year now, and my confidence in its stability has grown over time. My biggest concerns for overheating come while running the motor in "boost" or "generator" mode (ie Advanced Bedini Handbook). In my experience the total wattage can nearly double and the heating of the transistors and diodes reflects this. I keep a IR thermometer around when testing with that mode. I set up a Velleman relay kit to duty cycle the motor on and off via USB to a laptop to allow charging to run all day while in "generator mode" as the amp draw can be considerable. (1 min on - 2 mins off) and i'm able to keep the rotor in motion the whole time with that duty cycle. (turns back on in time to keep the rotor from stopping just in time) This adds to the amount of power i'm able to gather from the independent generator coils while the motor is off but the rotor is still spinning.
I posted on your thread concerning the need for a method of effectively loading down the independent generator coils to gain power from them. Rectifying and cap dumping them doesn't seem to draw much on its own, and as nice as running an array of lights off of them might be, i'd much sooner add that power to the COP of the entire motor. So i'm experimenting on that side of things while putting together more data logging instrumentation to do long term amp hour analysis of the banks as they are radiantly charged and discharged repeatedly over a period of years.
I'm enjoying seeing your input to the discussion BroMikey and look forward to more updates on your setup in the future.
Sincerely,
Darcy Klyne

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Hey Mikey! Sorry so late responding here. I'll be around more often in the future. I appreciate your concern sir. Here is my first video of the motor in operation >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OBRr8VVDE I'll be making many more now.
I run a 40 amp protection fuse across all the power (+) coils on the way into the circuit boards as well as 4 - 150 volt neon bulbs in the event of a secondary load disconnect. Aside from that, i don't often leave the vicinity of my device while running it. However i have been running it daily for over year now, and my confidence in its stability has grown over time. My biggest concerns for overheating come while running the motor in "boost" or "generator" mode (ie Advanced Bedini Handbook). In my experience the total wattage can nearly double and the heating of the transistors and diodes reflects this. I keep a IR thermometer around when testing with that mode. I set up a Velleman relay kit to duty cycle the motor on and off via USB to a laptop to allow charging to run all day while in "generator mode" as the amp draw can be considerable. (1 min on - 2 mins off) and i'm able to keep the rotor in motion the whole time with that duty cycle. (turns back on in time to keep the rotor from stopping just in time) This adds to the amount of power i'm able to gather from the independent generator coils while the motor is off but the rotor is still spinning.
I posted on your thread concerning the need for a method of effectively loading down the independent generator coils to gain power from them. Rectifying and cap dumping them doesn't seem to draw much on its own, and as nice as running an array of lights off of them might be, i'd much sooner add that power to the COP of the entire motor. So i'm experimenting on that side of things while putting together more data logging instrumentation to do long term amp hour analysis of the banks as they are radiantly charged and discharged repeatedly over a period of years.
I'm enjoying seeing your input to the discussion BroMikey and look forward to more updates on your setup in the future.
Sincerely,
Darcy Klyne
WOW great progress DUDE I love it when you share.
You have revive my interest all over again.

Ultra fast diodes?

G2 HTS wire?

Yes the diode array is flawed if you ask me. I smoked my diodes
also and I use the MJL4281 instead.
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