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Old 08-27-2009, 10:44 PM
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Arrow Ainslie-Murakami Negative Dominant Waveform Generator

Here are some interesting results.

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YouTube - Detailed Integrated Power Analysis of Ainslie Circuit

The load has been up to 1.1C BELOW ambient with this circuit at these power levels - the doc says 0.8 below ambient. Please look at all above docs and videos thoroughly. The cooling effect has it's own proportionate relationship to the negative wattage running through the coils.

There have been many other tests done but this one is quite a slap in the face of conventional electron current theory.

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Tek shot of waveforms of both shunts and battery - more below than above for shunts.

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Well done Aaron on the single cycle analysis.

If I understand you probe attachments, all three of them are referenced to the negative rail of the battery (aka 'ground'). Since there is only two possible wired paths for the energy to flow back into the battery (through each of the current sensing 'shunt' resistors), then using Kirchhoff's Current Law your analysis must be showing negative power consumption for this single cycle. There may be some rounding error - to help ensure this is not the case, you can set the cell type to Scientific and increase the decimal places to match the least position supplied in your data.

Now we need to ensure that this one cycle itself is not 'riding' on a variant voltage carrier. To do this, we perform the same operation of a collection of sample cycles - say at least 100. This resolution is fine, you still have 100 samples for each cycle and that is plenty. Your method is perfect, only in this case you envelope a large group of cycles and get the average instead of the sum for the bottom line. This will help neutralize any variant baseline in the data. To discover if such a variant exists, random sample averages can be taken and compared to each other - i.e. avg for each group of 10 cycles, then each group of 25 cycles, then each group of 33 cycles. Patterns of deviation in the averages will make the variant pattern (if it exists) pop out where you can see it. An example of such a variant would be the 60 cycle hum commonly injected into to sensitive circuits by local wiring.

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Nice Videos Aaron, sounds very Prof

For the heat at the Timer i did put a Diode from Minus Timer -> Minus Source.
It kinda helps a bit, but mine is not a fast switching Diode.
I think the heat is caused from the negative Spikes, maybe need still again a seperate Source for the Timer.
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Great stuff Aaron!!! Adding now to yours/Rosie's PDF, i think we might build this one also to add beside yours, got the components ordered . Thanks a lot Aaron, its not looking good for conventional electron current theory
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Graphed the Data from Aarons CSV - Looks like an accurate match - No Rounding issues - ( I have the XLS file if anyone wants it)

One thing that seems strange is the resolution drops drastically about midpoint in the cycle as can be seen in the graphs.

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Nice Videos Aaron, sounds very Prof

For the heat at the Timer i did put a Diode from Minus Timer -> Minus Source.
It kinda helps a bit, but mine is not a fast switching Diode.
I think the heat is caused from the negative Spikes, maybe need still again a seperate Source for the Timer.
No, the heat is caused by not following my instructions regarding moving pin 7 to the anode of the on-time diode.
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Hi Guys. I've been waiting for this post for about 58 hours straight - and then fell asleep at the critical moment. Have finally seen the whole thing. Well done indeed Aaron. It looks amazing.

Could Harvey or someone please comment on the 'cooling' effect?

Aaron needs to comment here but I understand that the multiple waveforms gives the same ballpark results. Perhaps a quick analysis? Really well done Aaron.

EDIT Ash - just noted your comments. Who knows? Maybe charge will yet be seen to be 'wholly conserved'. Such fun. And I'm sure you all appreciate the skill in moving through those waveforms and circuit variations to find this little number. I am blown away by Aaron's talents here.
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@Joit, thanks, the heat may be what Harvey is talking about. In any case, it is heat when the total circuit draw is negative

@Ash, yes, my thoughts are that electron current theory has always been wrong for obvious reasons, but in either case, the data here speaks for itself in my opinion but is open to interpretation.

@Harvey, if I have time later tonight, I'll post a spreadsheet and photo of the waveform for multiple waveforms. I still get negative values for net draw. And I believe the cooling up to 1C below ambient of the load and load shunt indicate that the negative wattage draw are accurate and would be consistent with my own model of reality. Anyway, I'll post later.

@everyone, what I have shown as far as the Detailed Integrated Power Analysis, needs to become the new standard for analyzing these circuits. The only downfall is the cost of the the equipment but it is the most accurate method for determining power draw that is available to my knowledge. This method is what is ALREADY accepted by hard core academia but hasn't been really used by "experimenters" and "tinkerers" and most researchers into these technologies at any significant level.

The TEKTRONIX TDS 3054C is one machine that can do it at 10,000 samples per screen per channel. Tektronix may have others at lower ranges for less money so shop around. The right equipment is needed to know what you really have in the circuit.
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Thanks Rosemary!

Thanks Rosemary! I couldn't have done it without all your support and encouragement. This has been an incredible learning and growth experience.

The effect shown is very real and measurable...even the cooling effect - measurable.

The cooling is negative energy from the active vacuum moving into the circuit. It is a converging, cooling, collective energy instead of dissipating, warning and scattering energy. If the circuit is biased to the negative, there will not be equilibrium, it will be weighed in the favor of negative energy and the cooling is indicative of this.

There are other tests that I hope to share as I've recorded many tests. I focused on showing this one because showing the negative value with cooling simply adds insult to injury in a very big way to electron current theory. In any case, this has been a great learning experience.

For everyone - it is all in the tuning. The schematic I posted works and use the right kind of tuning pots that I showed or similar in quality. You really want precision.
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Aaron,

What was the baseline temperatures of the shunt and load resistors? i.e. the temps with no power applied?

They will no doubt be several degrees below ambient.

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Your 555 timer is running at about 431kHz.

The 5MHz showing on the 0.25 Ohm timer shunt is just noise. It's doubtful there is any real 5MHz component anywhere in the circuit wave forms.

The "below zero" analysis is not necessarily correct. The load wave form is with the probes across the load as you stated, not with any reference to ground. Measurements need to be made to the same reference as the battery to know direction of the current.

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The "below zero" analysis is not necessarily correct. The load wave form is with the probes across the load as you stated, not with any reference to ground. Measurements need to be made to the same reference as the battery to know direction of the current.

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You are misdirecting people's attention away from the FACT that the data posted is of the SHUNT, which IS PROPERLY REFERENCED TO THE TIMER SHUNT AND BATTERY.

It is a perfect power analysis done in the manner in which strict academic analysis accepts. Your opinion to the contrary is noted.

I posted no data on the load as the load data is irrelevant to showing the GAIN - as the shunt is all that is necessary to show the point of power draw according to YOUR conventional protocols.

The fact that you are ignoring this common sense shows me that you have no sincerity if your questions and are simply distracting people from facts. Very, very rude.

I would expect from you some questions that don't insult my intelligence or anyone else's here.
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What was the baseline temperatures of the shunt and load resistors? i.e. the temps with no power applied?

They will no doubt be several degrees below ambient.

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The ambient was determined by having the ambient probe INSIDE ANOTHER INDUCTIVE RESISTOR that has no power going to it and the ambient probe was left in that power free inductive resistor through the ENTIRE test. This comparison is ACCURATE.

The shunt and load resistor were at AMBIENT before running. And again, the ambient used as a reference is INSIDE ANOTHER inductive resistor that has no power going to it and is sitting on the same temperature as the load resistor.

They are UNDOUBTEDLY the SAME temperature as ambient, when not running. Your condition of a required below ambient temperature is false.
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Hi everyone,

Thanks to Rosemary, Aaron and Mark for your encouragement on this build, and I think mine is working now .....

These shots are from my Tektronix 2445A 150 MHz scope (4-channel) taken from the probe positions battery ground and between the IRFPG50 (D-drain) and 10 ohm resistor.





Now all we need is the where the scope probes actually go for final adjustments and documentation with the test protocol ....... I need to get my temperature sensor because the 10 ohm resistor got pretty warm.

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Aaron, do you have any temp reading data that can be sync'd to the A column in a CSV? Even if it is just two or 3 readings as long as we can associate the time frame with the waveform analysis and temperature readings.

.99 probably got a little confused regarding the use of the word ambient. Thermodynamic laws dictate that everything must absorb or radiate energy in order to match ambient. The only way the resistors would be lower than ambient is if there has been a change either in the ambient or in the previously thermally neutral (ambient matched) temperatures. Wind chill for instance, can reduce the temperature of an object below ambient. Thermal hysteresis and state change can also cause temperature differentials between ambient and a object immersed in the ambient. But in this case, the loads and shunts should all have started at ambient.

As regards the noted cooling, there are a couple of things that can lead to this. RF is the most likely culprit for both the negative power results and the cooling. If you note my KCL comment, I qualified it by stating the 'wired' path. There is still a wireless path for the energy to flow and this is a difficult concept for some to grasp. Wireless power transmission is conventionally thought of as an exchange of voltage for transmitted power. In other words, at the end of the circuit, the current is the same but the voltage is spent to zero. But this does not have to be the case. We can conserve the voltage and spend the current instead. Very unconventional, but the result is some screwed up power readings when we base them on current in one leg of the circuit and it totally pisses all over KCL. But every well trained engineer knows that he can black box a transformer and end up with a current to voltage converter. This is one of the reasons a professor at MIT adamantly stressed the importance of using Faraday's laws instead of Kirchhoff's laws where dynamic fields are concerned. Kirchhoff's law is a subset of Faraday's law, which always works because it allows for path dependent analysis. When the system has an open door, as is the case with certain current consuming devices like RF power output, the path becomes important to the overall calculations. Those that grasp this concept will go far with future technology. Those that readily dismiss it will miss out on opportunities to explore seldom applied variations to the conventional application of electrodynamics.

However you accomplish it, it the total energy that leaves the load is more than the energy dumped into the load, the load must supply the energy either from itself or the pool of energy it contains in the form of temperature. In our case it is conventionally unlikely that the resistor is oxidizing or being consumed in some other fashion that results in a consistent holding of a temperature less than ambient. Especially if power is being dissipated in it. Therefore it is probable that it gives up it's thermal equilibrium in order to satisfy the energy exchange. This is nothing new. Einstein had few patents to his name but this is one he evidently felt strongly about: Using Heat to Refrigerate This type of cooling system is well known in the RV industry where almost all refrigeration systems work off of a heat principle and have no compressor. It is possible that your frequencies and arrangement do provide a release of extra energy from the resistor. Using RF to cool things

Well, back to my 555 stuff

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Hi Glen,

Now I see why the cat wears eye shields Now that is some 'intense' tracing.

Nice ringing, but this is not the aperiodic oscillation that Aaron has demonstrated.

Looking at the timing there, you can reduce your on-time to about 2 or 3 microseconds and even shorten your off time to as little as 8 microseconds and that would give a pretty optimal timing for conventional power dissipation in the load. That would push the duty cycle up to 25% or 30+% but it would still resonate the same.

I can't advise yet on the aperiodic oscillation as I haven't powered mine up yet interruptions...but I can work on it now for a bit. From Aaron's posts it seems to be a matter of getting the gate resistance to a level that allows it to occur. In your case, I would increase the off time to about 400 microseconds before experimenting with the aperiodic stuff. You need to let things recuperate a bit in between hitting the resistor with more straight juice.

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Fuzzy - you're holding out on us. Did you build your resistor? I would remind you that Aaron needs one.

So nice to see all this data coming in. Am holding my breath here for results.

BTW If anyone ever wants to hold onto their sanity - don't ever post contentious claims. It's a recipe for accelerated aging. I know this. Early onset of arthritis, fading eyesight, extraordinary sleep patterns, random dementia and emotional control oscillating out of reach. All evidence points to degrading superstructure avalanching to an early grave. Three months ago I still felt young. Have to think hard to remember that time.
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Your 555 timer is running at about 431kHz.

The 5MHz showing on the 0.25 Ohm timer shunt is just noise. It's doubtful there is any real 5MHz component anywhere in the circuit wave forms.

The "below zero" analysis is not necessarily correct. The load wave form is with the probes across the load as you stated, not with any reference to ground. Measurements need to be made to the same reference as the battery to know direction of the current.

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Poynt - this is rather less than I would have expected from you. The Tektronix is more than equal to the frequency measurement. And the 'below zero' heat measurement is accurate. You're arguing the experiment on the grounds of data?

Please tell us if you can find these results in your programs. To question Aaron's knowledge of where to put the probes is insulting in the extreme and inappropriate to the general tenor of this thread.
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Great to see the scope shots Glen!

Rosemary is a serious master at waveform analysis!

I used 3 channels on this one.

Channel 1, 2, and 3 all have a shared ground.
Channel 1, probe to other side of 0.25 ohm shunt on the 555 circuit.
Channel 2, probe to mosfet side of 1 ohm shunt for load measurements.
Channel 3, probe to positive of battery.

If this is the wrong way to do it, let me know.

I hope you'll see the same thing I did. I believe the frequency I'm using is too high and the battery won't benefit as much. If I get a lower frequency, I believe the battery will be able to charge up better and even more so, possibly, at 24 volts instead of 12.

Can your scope log data and if so, how many samples per screen?

Looking forward to learning more about your setup!
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However you accomplish it, it the total energy that leaves the load is more than the energy dumped into the load, the load must supply the energy either from itself or the pool of energy it contains in the form of temperature. In our case it is conventionally unlikely that the resistor is oxidizing or being consumed in some other fashion that results in a consistent holding of a temperature less than ambient. Especially if power is being dissipated in it. Therefore it is probable that it gives up it's thermal equilibrium in order to satisfy the energy exchange. This is nothing new. Einstein had few patents to his name but this is one he evidently felt strongly about: Using Heat to Refrigerate This type of cooling system is well known in the RV industry where almost all refrigeration systems work off of a heat principle and have no compressor. It is possible that your frequencies and arrangement do provide a release of extra energy from the resistor. Using RF to cool things

Well, back to my 555 stuff

I find this a encouraging. Had no idea of this negative voltage effect. In which case - is the 'heat' dissipated at the resistor only evident if the net value of the voltage across the resistor is above zero? And is the heat then also the difference between the two values above and below zero? And then the next question. Does the negative voltage over the resistor constitute a potential recharge to the battery? If so, to my simplistic way of thinking - it may then be possible to direct the current from two parts of a voltage waveform across an inductor, the one to a non-inductive resistor and the other to the same or an alternate battery. The theoretical implications are - at its least, usable.

It seems that this balanced negative component is more enhanced by placing the inductor behind the switch. And whichever way one looks at this - the results speak to conservation of charge which is more complete than the published circuit. Again. As I see it.
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I got better results without using any small gauge wire clips or any switches ( some switches add a lot of resistance) here is the set up [pots AWG 20 solid / Battery, 10 ohm resister AWG 18 solid] the RA Quantum revised: August 12, 2009 circuit was on for about 30 minutes with the shots shown and the battery went down from 24.8 to 24.6 this is as soon as I got the ringing everyone knows.




The first time I turned it on the smoke leaked out of a Fairchild NE555 so my plan B was a NTE955M http://www.nteinc.com/specs/900to999/pdf/nte955.pdf

Tomorrow I'll give it a whirl with the probe locations from Aaron (thanks Aaron) and record the wave forms with a some type of camera because theres only a capture feature on this scope a 1998 model ..... nice though

@ Rosemary , I haven't made the 10 ohm resistor yet, still waiting on the proper wire and type.

@ Harvey, Thank for the encouragement and help, I had the scope intensity up, never had to shoot a wave form before

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For tuning, focus on the dc value at the shunt compared to the rms at the shunt. Have both readings on screen at same time. It isn't necessary to try to get negative like I did. If heat is your goal, you need positive wattage flowing into the circuit to do that.

That one piece of advice that originally came from Rosemary, about focusing on dc/rms comparison, will save you LOTS of time from trial and error.

You want the biggest spread you can get so that the dc at the shunt is much, much lower than the RMS at the shunt.

The bigger the spread, the better your efficiency and COP. The dc reading, the lower it is, the more balanced your waveform is above and below the ground level.

At lower DC readings, you'll have less heat but will probably be much more efficiently produced than the control. If you want more heat, you may need more DC at the shunt but make sure the circuit is tuned so the RMS is way high.

It is a waste of time to do any draw down test or otherwise if those numbers aren't far enough apart. Once you have your best settings by doing that and you could analyze the power like I did with the data dump, but then do the draw down. That saves lots of time so you won't be doing drawdowns on trial and error basis. The drawdowns take a LONG time. Good to have 2 people that can watch it around the clock.

When tuning your dials, look at the waveform and just go through every combination you can between the 3 pots just for the learning experience. You will get the feel for how to even out the waveform above and below.

There is a very profound implication here about the balanced waveform. Everyone is programmed to see a positive on pulse then a spike that is a very narrow width - it appears to have been widely assumed that the collapsing magnetic field

Did anyone ever say or prove that we can't WIDEN out its time frame in the negative zone? I don't think so. The more you can widen it out, the less positive there is of the waveform and that brings it towards balance.

Of course the amplitude reduces but the area under ground area starts to mirror the positive side. And you can then get more under than over.

At this point, I see a limit as to how much negative it can go with this switch. There may be other switching methods that can bring it more negative - I'll leave it to the open minded EE's or engineers to come up with something for that.

With my parts, I'm limited to this basic circuit that has been posted for years but with a few minor modifications.

And use liquid lead acid batteries and not gel cells.

And 10 turn tuning pots in the right ranges.
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Poynt - this is rather less than I would have expected from you. The Tektronix is more than equal to the frequency measurement. And the 'below zero' heat measurement is accurate. You're arguing the experiment on the grounds of data?

Please tell us if you can find these results in your programs. To question Aaron's knowledge of where to put the probes is insulting in the extreme and inappropriate to the general tenor of this thread.
.99 just misread the scope, it reads 1.5 not 5 megahurts.
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The temp would be virtually identical for the whole sample of 1 waveform.

The division on that scope shot of the shunt wave... is 400ns per division. the one waveform takes up 60% of the width of the whole screen so 6000 samples about. That is about 12,000ns for 1 waveform at 6000 samples.

The thermo probes readout shows me only as detailed as 1/10 C intervals and it definitely won't fluctuate at that level for one waveform. Depending on tuning, it could be several minutes between each 1/10 of a C change.
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The first time I turned it on the smoke leaked out of a Fairchild NE555 so my plan B was a NTE955M http://www.nteinc.com/specs/900to999/pdf/nte955.pdf
Hi Glen,

I don't know how important it is to have the same 555 as I have... NE555N. I bought them at radio shack. I learned from Peter that there are low power versions. I didn't know the existed.

I may be using more power than I need and might get better gains with a lower power 555. OR, there might be something to using the higher power one that enhances what is going on. I could try a lower power one and see what happens.
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Hi Glen,

I don't know how important it is to have the same 555 as I have... NE555N. I bought them at radio shack. I learned from Peter that there are low power versions. I didn't know the existed.

I may be using more power than I need and might get better gains with a lower power 555. OR, there might be something to using the higher power one that enhances what is going on. I could try a lower power one and see what happens.
Hi Aaron,
I still have another Fairchild NE555 this other NTE955M came from Fry's Electronics Fry's Home Electronics | Computer Parts & Accessories, Software, Games, TVs, Cameras - Frys.com in Wilsonville just down the street from Tektronix only about 20 minutes away from me, and they have a good supply of electronic parts. The one NE555 that blew, popped as soon as it got power, kinda strange but I have extras

I did see some really different wave forms before I got the ringing scope shots, can't wait to see what this puppy can do

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Harvey, this is on the multiple samples:

Raw and untouched data:
http://www.feelthevibe.com/free_ener...i-dipa2raw.csv

Crunched - but nothing shaved from data before first waveform or after last waveform to make perfect whole number waveforms. You can do that if you want. But at this many samples, it should be very accurate. Would love to see your spreadsheet chart pics of this one to see how it matches the pics below. That is a great confirmation that the data is from the waveforms that it is claimed to be.
http://www.feelthevibe.com/free_ener...a2crunched.csv

About an hour later I took pics before I forgot to do so on the spot.

Here are 2 pics...first is how the sample was taken. Second is zoom in to see waveform. Third is what the fluke is showing across the load. I have gate resistance at max 5k...just experimenting but still getting cooling effect and net negative wattages. You can see the lower half is like the top half.

Anyway, this should show that the waveform I selected didn't happen to be an anomaly. At this sample range, there is still a negative average wattage.





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I used 3 channels on this one.

Channel 1, 2, and 3 all have a shared ground.
Channel 1, probe to other side of 0.25 ohm shunt on the 555 circuit.
Channel 2, probe to mosfet side of 1 ohm shunt for load measurements.
Channel 3, probe to positive of battery.
Hi Aaron,
For clearification purposes ...... on the RA Heater Circuit (revised: August 12, 2009)

Channel 1, probe to other side of 0.25 ohm shunt on the 555 circuit.
Is the probe between the .25 ohm resistor and the Battery (-) or between .25 resistor and the IRFPG50 Mosfet?

Channel 2, probe to mosfet side of 1 ohm shunt for load measurements.
Is there a 1 ohm resistor in the circuit diagram or is this a additional resistor required "just" for measurement and testing, and how is it connected to the circuit?

Channel 3, probe to positive of battery.
I assume this is the 24 volt battery bank and not the 12 volt seperate battery for the 555 circuit.

I think these answers may help me and other experimenters not totally familiar with what scope connections that were used for the common end results needed or to be found.

Thanks again for your efforts, help and support on this project, I'm afraid with the first harsh negative responses from the few we saw this would have had a much different result.

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Glen,

Have a look at this diagram:

Aarons Revised Circuit

Note that the 0.25 Ohm sensing resistor is between pin 1 of the
555 and B(-)

Note that the 1 Ohm sensing resistor is between the IRFPG50 and B(-)

So the probes all reference to B(-).
One probe to Pin 1 of 555, one to Source on IRFPG50, and a third to B(+)

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Glen,

Have a look at this diagram:

Aarons Revised Circuit

Note that the 0.25 Ohm sensing resistor is between pin 1 of the
555 and B(-)

Note that the 1 Ohm sensing resistor is between the IRFPG50 and B(-)

So the probes all reference to B(-).
One probe to Pin 1 of 555, one to Source on IRFPG50, and a third to B(+)

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Hi Harvey,
If that is the case and we now are using the new "Negitive Dominant Waveform Generator" circuit diagram I need some new parts ..... or is this an additional circuit?

SHOPPING LIST

1) (1) 1K ohm 1/4 watt resistor
2) (1) 100 ohm 1/4 watt resistor
3) (1) 0.001 uF capacitor
4) (3) 1N914 diodes
5) (1) 1 ohm ? watt resistor
6) (1) 1K ohm 10-turn pot
7) (1) 12V Liquid filled Lead acid Battery (car battery or small sealed type ?)

I hope my 150 Mhz scope is fast enough to catch the wave forms shown from the Tektronix TDS 3054C that Aaron posted

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