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Old 01-06-2010, 10:33 AM
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Hi Ash, that's a really big document you've referenced. Really great stuff.

And I can't wait to see the tests. It's happening - all over the place. Exciting times guys.

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heater resistance

Hi guys about the heater resistance it should be 32mm to work as shown on the schematic?
Can one use a normal nichrome filament heater?
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Hi guys about the heater resistance it should be 32mm to work as shown on the schematic?
Can one use a normal nichrome filament heater?
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Hi Guruji,

The heater or inductive resistor is 10 ohms and the outside diameter is 32mm.

Through most everyone's testing using a standard 10 ohm wire wound resistor "off the shelf" type similar to the one I tried which was a 100 watt "MEMCOR" #7931 brand name which has a much smaller outside diameter of approximately 19mm does not have the same circuit effect or results.

I see no problems in using a heating element that uses a nichrome filament wire as the custom prototype resistors I'm using has "Ni Cr" type "A" 80% nickel, 20% chromium wire being used in it's construction as shown in my POST # 2684

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The heater or inductive resistor is 10 ohms and the outside diameter is 32mm.

Through most everyone's testing using a standard 10 ohm wire wound resistor "off the shelf" type similar to the one I tried which was a 100 watt "MEMCOR" #7931 brand name which has a much smaller outside diameter of approximately 19mm does not have the same circuit effect or results.

I see no problems in using a heating element that uses a nichrome filament wire as the custom prototype resistors I'm using has "Ni Cr" type "A" 80% nickel, 20% chromium wire being used in it's construction as shown in my POST # 2684

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Wow Fuzzy that's a nice job about that heater element
I have an old tv and going to use it's arial hope that it stands heat
I try and see what happens. Still waiting for my mosfet to arrive.
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Old 01-08-2010, 12:33 PM
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Hi guys,

I've had a few off forum requests for an update on the paper's submission. We're still trying to reach the editor who is responsible for TIE submissions. I think the holidays have mitigated against this. But hopefully soon. As soon as the correct channel and journal is established I'll post more.

Meanwhile, Mike, Fuzzy, - thanks for the extraordinary work done through your live broadcasts. The response was extraordinary. And Jibbs, your article hung up there in the top 20 for a really long time. Clearly there's interest and clearly we're getting the word out. Extraordinary the advances that are evident - and coming thick and fast and from all over the place. It's really good news.

EDIT I hope this is not entirely off topic. It's just so interesting I thought I'd post a link.
YouTube - baja 22 063.avi
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crashing through the energy barrier

Hi Guys,

More of the same. This exercise was done as a basis for a press release that I hope will happen sometime soon.

Crashing Through the Energy Barrier Final for DS-2

By the way - Fuzzy and Mike, if you go live again please remember to post links here. Many thanks guys.
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Old 01-09-2010, 12:20 PM
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Hi all

Still here and working to clean up my security. It happened again with the e-mails, but this time in better English, just after the livestream the other day, coincidence, my be, you can judge that yourselves.

Well I have been working out what is happening with the circuit. The FL's burn out very quickly, on the livestream show, some time in the early hours of the morning, the FL burned out and the amp draw shot up and drained the battery. This circuit HAS TO HAVE A LOAD or the amp draw shoots up, the more the load the lower the amp draw!!!!!!!!!!

The circuit is only triggered by the input signal, when you have it just right it goes into a self oscillation, this depends on the power coil, I have tried all that I have and I can get all to go into a self oscillation generating multiple frequencies.

The secound thing that is important is the biasing and loop back for the phasing transformers, I am sure I do not have this at its best, and if the good Dr. Stiffler reads this, or anybody else, I would be very grateful for some input on this which might reduce the time in solving this.

The last thing is to find a better way of using this high voltage which is generated along with the feed back to keep the battery charged. It has been noted that the battery acts as a load, which you would expect, when it is connected to recharge the current draw goes down and if you put a load on the battery, other that the circuit, the current draw goes down as well!!

Well thats it for now, all constructive comments are welcome. I will post a circuit of the twin phasing transformer and twin power coil set up when I have finished drawing it up.

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Hi Guys,

More of the same. This exercise was done as a basis for a press release that I hope will happen sometime soon.

Crashing Through the Energy Barrier Final for DS-2

By the way - Fuzzy and Mike, if you go live again please remember to post links here. Many thanks guys.
Will read this when I have a quiet moment

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shunt resistor

Hi guys what is a shunt resistor? If I use a normal resistor does this circuit work?
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Hi guys what is a shunt resistor? If I use a normal resistor does this circuit work?
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Its usual to make better measurements at the Circuit.
Actually, it has only a small resistance, you can measure the loss over it, and calculate the Energy, what is running over it.
But it works without the Shunt too, and as they did investigate the Circuit,
they moved the Shunt anywhere around at the Circuit,
like witsend mentioned once.

That is a Question, what i did ask myself a long time too
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The term comes from "current shunt" ; a very common method of determining Current in a circuit path through reading the Voltage across a "Shunt", and then using Ohm's Law to calculate the Amperes (since there really is no direct way to read "current").

As examples, a "1 Ohm" shunt resistor with "5 Volts" reading across its ends, represents "5 Amps" of current. A "10 Ohm" shunt R reading "5 V" would represent "0.5 Amps".

Most Shunt Resistors are very low Ohms, and rated for high wattage. For these reasons, "regular" resistors used in circuity usually won't work in their place, because they are too high a Resistance (and so could significantly affect the circuit's performance skewing the data), and/or have too low a current rating (so they burn up under load).

Large current shunts used in industry are often simply rectangular blocks of steel or iron; it doesn't matter much, as long as the precise Resistance is known so the calculation can be done, they can handle the current, and the R remains stable as temperatures rise.

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Current shunts are often "floating off ground", for that reason it is important to watch where you put the ground lead of scope probes when reading them (or any other "Single-Ended to Ground" instruments that are not specifically stated to be "Input to Output Isolated"). Hand-held DMM's ("digital multi-meters") and some "scope-meters" are battery powered, with no ground connection, so it is not a problem with them. But it can be a BIG problem with "single-ended" scopes that get a ground through their power supply / wall plug connection, and could cause them to break the house "No Smoking" rules
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.... But it can be a BIG problem with "single-ended" scopes that get a ground through their power supply / wall plug connection, and could cause them to break the house "No Smoking" rules
LOL. Well put Jibbs

Guys Fuzzy's back on line. You may want to 'tune in'.

Open Source Research and Development - live streaming video powered by Livestream

Not sure if I've got that right. I think it's the link.
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Guys, my other computer is down and I can't access Skype. I get it that there are some messages waiting there. I should have this fixed later in the day.
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The term comes from "current shunt" ; a very common method of determining Current in a circuit path through reading the Voltage across a "Shunt", and then using Ohm's Law to calculate the Amperes (since there really is no direct way to read "current").

As examples, a "1 Ohm" shunt resistor with "5 Volts" reading across its ends, represents "5 Amps" of current. A "10 Ohm" shunt R reading "5 V" would represent "0.5 Amps".

Most Shunt Resistors are very low Ohms, and rated for high wattage. For these reasons, "regular" resistors used in circuity usually won't work in their place, because they are too high a Resistance (and so could significantly affect the circuit's performance skewing the data), and/or have too low a current rating (so they burn up under load).

Large current shunts used in industry are often simply rectangular blocks of steel or iron; it doesn't matter much, as long as the precise Resistance is known so the calculation can be done, they can handle the current, and the R remains stable as temperatures rise.

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202:

Current shunts are often "floating off ground", for that reason it is important to watch where you put the ground lead of scope probes when reading them (or any other "Single-Ended to Ground" instruments that are not specifically stated to be "Input to Output Isolated"). Hand-held DMM's ("digital multi-meters") and some "scope-meters" are battery powered, with no ground connection, so it is not a problem with them. But it can be a BIG problem with "single-ended" scopes that get a ground through their power supply / wall plug connection, and could cause them to break the house "No Smoking" rules

The term "Shunt" means "to bypass" and represents a parallel pathway. Metering systems are very sensitive to current, it only takes a small amount, usually microamps to push them full scale. So to measure the amperage in a circuit it is necessary to provide a parallel path for the larger currents to flow through and a ratio is determined between the meter current and the "shunt" current. Most current meters (aka ammeters) today incorporate internal shunts and are simply placed in series with the current carrying wire.

When instantaneous current measurements are required, it becomes problematic to use meters that provide internal integration. In this case a CSR or current sensing resistor is used which converts the current flowing through the resistor to a voltage across the resistor. These resistors must be noninductive and noncapacitive to work properly, otherwise the instantaneous voltage will not be commensurate to the instantaneous current. A CSR is a series device and the voltage across it can be measured with field effect equipment where zero parallel current flows through the measuring device. For this reason a CSR should not be called a shunt.

These are semantics and I am probably a purist in that regard but the proper use does reflect directly whether a reputable institution would cite the use of it in their works, in my humble opinion.

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"LIVE" broadcast January 9, 2010

Hi everyone,

I see that many of the members and guests here have shown up on my "Open Source Research and Development" channel showing this threads circuit in operation in various stages of oscillation. The last show was the "Preferred Mode Of Oscillation" that includes the subharmonic modulation that we have deemed necessary for the COP> 1 results which we prefer and must be forced by careful adjustments.

The January 9, 2010 show was the best showing this "Preferred Mode Of Oscillation" in the first 2 hours of the 5 Hour long tape ..... ( search-able video timer shown with time left )

Open Source Research and Development - January 9, 2010

TIME
4:45 _ 24.68 to 24.69 VDC Starting Voltage
4:01 _ 24.72 VDC Highest Voltage Reading
4:00 _ 24.71 VDC
3:33 _ 24.70 VDC
3:17 _ 24.69 VDC Return to Starting Voltage
2:54 _ Temperature Readings
2:52 _ 24.68 VDC

STARTING TEMPERATURES READINGS -
139 Degrees F - 10 ohm load resistor
161 Degrees F - Mosfet
113 Degrees F - .25 ohm shunt resistor

2:54 TEMPERATURE READINGS -
138 Degrees F - 10 ohm load resistor
158 Degrees F - Mosfet
107 Degrees F - .25 ohm shunt resistor

5.27 Watt Load ( Load Resistor ) on circuit during operating throughout the time length indicated.

I hope anyone interested might check it out because non stop it's quite interesting .....

Best Regards,
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Great work Fuzzy. We really appreciate the streams m8

When you were first starting out in the first 3 mins or so, were you tweaking the pots by hand? It suddenly jumped in both amplitude and F at one point and i was wondering if that was when you found a sweet spot? Because the change looked quite dramatic.
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Great work Fuzzy. We really appreciate the streams m8

When you were first starting out in the first 3 mins or so, were you tweaking the pots by hand? It suddenly jumped in both amplitude and F at one point and i was wondering if that was when you found a sweet spot? Because the change looked quite dramatic.
Hi Jib,

Thanks, the January 9 run was starting from scratch so yes, that's what the process I go through using the various screen divisions for fine tuning, and it took about three minutes.

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Outstanding mate Thanks a lot for the detail Fuzzy. The ease at which it stays there is nothing sort of astonishing, @ALL Andrew and still ironing out bugs we can get it but now have to figure how to keep it there, it can be done look at it right there.

@ Fuzz Thanks to you and Harvey/Rose we are tuning and hope to have more data to follow, all hints and data is updated in the uni doc for all guys
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Hi Fuzzy,

Just to put on record your extraordinary talents in experimental physics. That you found this 'preferred' oscillation is extraordinary in the first instance. And you show us how to get there which is very much appreciated. It is clearly a waveform that - when seen - would, under most applications - be factored out of circuitry.

We are all aware of the extraordinarily long hours that you've applied here Fuzzy and deeply in your debt. It speaks, not only to your considerable talents but to your dedication to advance this type of technology. I would put on record that I'll always 'tune in' on your live broadcasts and look forward to other types of demonstrations which I hope are en route.

Thank you very much for everything. It's quite an amazing thing that you've done here on every level of expertise and your generosity and the time that invested has been considerable. I've said it before. Where would we be without you? Don't actually want to go there. it would have been sad, at best. I personally owe you Fuzzy - big time - on so many levels. I hope you'll get some real benefit and acknowledgement for these efforts. Certainly I'm satisfied that our readers and members are really congniscant of these facts and of your experimental excellence.

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Where can I find scopeshots of this harmonic oscillation which caused OU ? I'm sorry to ask that but I lost context in the middle of this thread no mention the longest thread on Overunity.com.

witsend , Can you sum all investigations in short sentences ? Do you have such comment prepared for ordinary people and press conferences ?

Is heater element a source of radiation of which part is "reflected" back and converted to additional electrical energy ? (kind of positive feedback loop)

All of you have done incredibly HUGE amount of work, I'm really impressed.
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:43 PM
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Hi guys about the 1/8w resistors can one do 1/4w instead?
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Hi Guruji,

Yes, you can always go "up" in Watt rating, going "down" is where you risk possibly burning it up because it isn't hefty enough to take the current.
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Yes, you can always go "up" in Watt rating, going "down" is where you risk possibly burning it up because it isn't hefty enough to take the current.
Thanks Jibbguy about that 110ohm resistor I could not find it. Which is best near ohm resistor 120ohm or 100ohm for circuit?
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Where can I find scopeshots of this harmonic oscillation which caused OU ? I'm sorry to ask that but I lost context in the middle of this thread no mention the longest thread on Overunity.com.

witsend , Can you sum all investigations in short sentences ? Do you have such comment prepared for ordinary people and press conferences ?

Is heater element a source of radiation of which part is "reflected" back and converted to additional electrical energy ? (kind of positive feedback loop)

All of you have done incredibly HUGE amount of work, I'm really impressed.
Hi boguslaw. Sorry I missed this. The easiest way to find that harmonic? which I assume you're looking for - is probably the scribd document. I'll see if I can post a link.

Open Source Evaluation of Power Transients Generated to Improve Performance Coefficient of Resistive Heating Systems

Hope that's it. In any event the paper has all the test links and there's ample shots of the waveforms. You'll see the harmonic in the pattern overlying the oscillations.
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Hi Guruji,

Hard to say, possibly it would make no serious change either way speaking generally, but to be sure of that it would have to be determined only by empirical testing ONCE it was first working. As we stated earlier, its always best to get it working as designed first before changes are made... Since this circuit is NOT the easiest one on this forum to get going for a "beginner"... You will want to eliminate all possibilities when trouble shooting it should the need arise.

You can also use two resistors in Parallel to come up a needed resistance... For instance two "220 Ohms" in parallel have a combined ohms of "110"; and other than taking up more room, it USUALLY doesn't matter as far as the circuit is concerned (although in some "trickier" circumstances it can due to stray capacitance and other issues of solder, longer leads, etc).

basic electronics
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Hard to say, possibly it would make no serious change either way speaking generally, but to be sure of that it would have to be determined only by empirical testing ONCE it was first working. As we stated earlier, its always best to get it working as designed first before changes are made... Since this circuit is NOT the easiest one on this forum to get going for a "beginner"... You will want to eliminate all possibilities when trouble shooting it should the need arise.

You can also use two resistors in Parallel to come up a needed resistance... For instance two "220 Ohms" in parallel have a combined ohms of "110"; and other than taking up more room, it USUALLY doesn't matter as far as the circuit is concerned (although in some "trickier" circumstances it can due to stray capacitance and other issues of solder, longer leads, etc).

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Hi Jibbguy thanks yes I should do that.
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Hi all

This is just to give you an update on what I have been doing.

I have been looking into the powering of a bigger load, 25watt, 240v lamp and yes I can light it. I hope to put up a livestream today if I can get some time between family etc.(centraflowsystems).

Though I can light the load, there are some strange things happening, it creates a lot more heat than if the bulb was lit in a normal way with 240v mains! The other thing is that I light it on the negative return to the battery, the positive is not as bright and draws more amperage. The other leg of the bulb is to battery negative in which case the battery is seeing a voltage of over 200volts as it is connected in series with the battery.

The other thing which is of concern is that the problem I have with my arm has returned with force and as so I am at this stage putting it down to a radiation burn. It has now spread to many parts of my body, so please be careful if any one tries this.

I will publish the final circuit for this, but only when I am at a point that I need help to move this foreward to another level. The thing is if, depending of tuning, I increase the load the amp draw goes down, take out the load (open circuit) the amp draw goes up. This is more noticed with a resistive load.

I have tried different transformers on the output, all will go into a self resonance, some work better than others, but even a 1:1 will generate a very high voltage on the output.

Will post the link when I am about to go on air

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Hello Michael

Your new setup sounds really interesting but, I'm more concerned about that arm and whats happening to the rest of you. I dont want to bring up the word conspiracy if you know what I mean but please find a specialist who can help you! If it is a radiation burn than you need to halt what your doing until you know more. Please take care of yourself we need you healthy.

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Hi all

Now live link Centraflow Systems - live streaming video powered by Livestream

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I am connected on livestream but I have been put on hold, but it is recording so you can see later I hope. I have many problems like this at the moment

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