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AInsley circuit replication attempt questions
Hey guys,
I am new to the electronics world (brand new). I'm a first year mechanical engineering student (not even to the good stuff yet still doing general's) and I've developed an interest in the ainsley circuit. I've downloaded the two big data packs which I'm slowly reading (and wiki'ing all the terms I don't understand). I have a question though which I can't seem to find the answer to in the packet. What gauge and type of resistive heating wire do I need for the 10 ohm resistor? and is the 1.25" measurement the inside diameter of the coil or the outside diameter? Also what do I need besides the basic circuit components to start building and testing this? Should I buy a multimeter or should I instead buy an oscilloscope? if so what types would you recommend for someone on a budget? I know this is a lot of questions but you guys have done more with the ainsley circuit than any other place out there and so I figured I'd come here for my information. Thanks in advance, Roguetechie
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Welcome to the Energetic forum. I'm afraid that this device from Rosemary Ainslie with a claim of COP>INFINITY has more that it share of problems and the inventor publisher Rosemary has had her three different threads "LOCKED" down relating to this device. Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Circuit / A First Application on a Hot Water Cylinder Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration on Saturday March 12th 2011 another small breakthrough on our NERD technology. There was a YouTube video made called "Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration 12 March 2011" filmed at CPTU university in South Africa on this device. Rosemary Ainslie circuit demonstration 12 March 2011 - YouTube It was found to be fraudulent ( POST #17 - Patrick Kelly/Rosemary Anslie circuits ) showing in the video a device schematic that wasn't for the device being demonstrated in the video, it wasn't even close to what was being shown as proof of the claim of COP>INFINITY. There also has been problems with Rosemary's mathematical results for the basis of her power measurement findings including understanding formulas for joules, watts and current. At this time there is a thread at OverUnity.com Testing the TK Tar Baby with a discussion on trying to replicate the published data that does exist in a attempt to do a actual scientific replication of the findings of a COP>INFINITY with all the stumbling blocks that are being thrown at anyone trying to replicate the device and verify the claim. The problem being again is the collaboration and verification of only the errors in the claim and there has been nothing close to a COP>1 let alone a COP>INFINITY found or shown. The owner and moderator of OverUnity ( Stefan) has requested multiple times that Rosemary Ainslie re-test the COP>INFINITY device in a scientific method that can be reproduced without all the measurement errors that have been found and proven in all the prior testing and evaluation done. At this point Rosemary hasn't done any re-testing because of the fact if she does and there is differences or errors in the results her attached "THESIS" to the COP>INFINITY device would be null and void, so any more testing for the most part probably will never happen. The testing and evaluation that was done for this device was also sent by Rosemary to accredited journals and magazines for possible professional peer review and publication but was withdrawn by Rosemary because of all the errors in them. At this point Rosemary has been banned from most all alternative open source forums including this one, but it comes to a time after years of the same inadequate presentations of her personal proof of concept given on devices she claims to have invented to make something work as advertized and we are still waiting for her to comply with that request. I also might add she was challenged by me to provide a demonstration on my free open source web site service created for inventors with their own device and/or measuring equipment to prove their work "LIVE" on a 24/7 STREAMING WEB BROADCASTING CHANNEL using their own web camera this also includes a interactive chat room for viewers FROM AROUND THE WORLD to witness the device in operation ask questions and give comments. Open Source Research and Development Organization - Home Page Rosemary Ainslie denied to show her device "LIVE" for all to see the results she claims. My opinion at this point is for everyone to stay clear of this device until verifiable proof can be made or a "LIVE" presentation is done. I also have my have others to challenge to a "LIVE" presentation as there is fraudulent devices everywhere in the open source community that experimentalist waste their money and time on giving free engineering to devices or products that don't work and never will. Regards, Fuzzy ![]() Last edited by FuzzyTomCat; 08-18-2012 at 07:03 PM. Reason: added "POST #17" reference link |
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Fuzzy,
I had thought that you were a proponent of the ainslie circuit at one time? Honestly I've been reading the material but there's just so much of it that I haven't got far between the stuff at panacea university and the various threads. Maybe I should just go to my standby plan of trying to build a small concentrated solar array using auto parts and refrigerant instead. I am sorely disappointed that you consider the design not worth pursuing.
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I did more verifiable testing and evaluation on the COP>17 device than any other person in the open source community with a boat load of data available in one place for anyone to see at my SkyDrive public account https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx...C40BB20460!104 The last position on the eight months of testing and evaluation I did is posted here http://www.energeticforum.com/93746-post74.html and like many other devices people get involved with opinions on the results of those tests can and sometimes do change this is one of those devices. One has to remember the earth was at one time to believed to be flat and things do change, sometimes not as one would like but with credible and verifiable evidence of differences truth should always prevail. Personally of all the devices out there the "Lloyd Tanner" steam boiler Friction Heater - YouTube is one of the more credible ideas to work on with real power potential and possibly being a self runner if configured properly. Regards, Fuzzy ![]() |
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Fuzzy,
Thank you for your advice I greatly appreciate it. For some reason I was under the impression that the Ainsley circuit had been replicated successfully by more than one person including you. I think this is mostly due to Rosemary's own writings that highly implied that others had replicated successfully, and also that replications were fairly easy and straight forward to do. I am doubly grateful that you have not just saved me the potential time and heartache of a failed replication attempt, and have also provided me with a secondary avenue to pursue. Chances are I will be bugging you guys relentlessly on the subject of the friction boiler instead. This actually has the potential to fit better with my pursuit of a solar thermal based energy generation system for day time. Maybe if I am lucky I could use the parts to create a test system that runs on solar thermal during the day and the friction boiler at night.
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Glen has done a lot more for the open source community that our "friend " rose will ever do.
Trust me on that Ash
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Rosemary's device
I have performed measurements on a device similar to The South African device with great success. Somehow this stuff can work, but I do not know how the circuit achieves the performance.
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I see you maybe have some test results that agree with a Rosemary Ainslie "South Africa" device and would be the first person in 10 years that would have accomplished this with countless people trying here and four (4) other alternative energy forums. Pulsed DC circuits are one of the most difficult to properly measure results accurately. Please post all your great successful data and method of measurements for the "open source community" to see. Thank You, Fuzzy ![]() |
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rosemary
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I was working on Rossi-like stuff for EPRI when I ran into Arthur Manelas in Pelham NH. He has an electrical circuit not unlike Rosemary and I made many measurements of the output/input.. His circuit fits inside a shoebox and he ccauses fast rising pulses from a back EMF off a large transformer core. The core runs at a 'negative hysterisis of -3.0C. He takes 11 watts out of a 12 volt battery and send 42 watts back into a 24 volt battery. As a physicist with 30 years of lab experience, I know this sounds like a First Law violation. It woks nonetheless. My working hypothesis is that his ferrite core has nanograined material in the 10 nanometer range. A new form of super-ferromagnetism was reported in Nature in 2006 by van Wayenberge. It comes in the form of a vortes and as such the asymmetric magnetism may be able to access energy from the fourth dimension, iCt.
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What your indicating is interesting but as you stated having 30 years bench experience of a scientist trained in physics know that a theory or thesis is not proof of a claim of operation. Most people here are experimentalist more interested in something you can physically see and touch. The comparison with Rossi's "ECAT" ( LENR ) device ECAT.com - The Official Website of Andrea Rossi's Energy Catalyzer, E-Cat - ECAT and Rosemary's COP>17 and COP>INFINITY devices are two totally different things not to be confused. If you have a device circuit diagram and photographs with possibly oscilloscope screen shots and data dumps any videos .... proof of a device with said claims that's GREAT lets see them. ![]() If you have nothing to show the "open source community" .... well .... ![]() Thank You, Fuzzy ![]() |
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I'm confused by all this. This thread COP 17 Heater | Rosemary Ainslie has the following quote.
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Thanks, and sorry if I am missing something obvious.
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This is a extremely long subject matter with many twists and turns ..... the short of it is that the Quantum article circuit with a COP 17 does "NOT" work as advertised and never stood up to the scientific method of testing and evaluation. It has been modified numerous times by many other knowledgeable experimentalists here and at other alternative energy forums. I'm listing some early quotes from Rosemary Ainslie and her endless endeavor. Quote:
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Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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Rosemary Ainslie Circuit
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However, I was never able to verify a COP of 17.0. The most I seemed to have achieved was about 2.0, but that isn't too surprising. Problem is, batteries don't like to get charged and discharged in an alternating fashion. The voltage will go up on the battery depends on how the circuit is tuned, but the capacity is not going up with the voltage. That means the impedance of the battery is increasing and is forcing the voltage to increase when the spike hits it - not because it's charging but because there is a reduction in the sulfuric acid in the solution of the battery - more is being plated so the impedance goes up. The most interesting thing I did was make the resistor drop a max of up to 5C below ambient. I remember Harvey chalked it up as being "RF cooling", but I'm not sure how rf is supposed to cool an inductive resistor down. I was also able to use the circuit to wirelessly turn off or turn on all three levels of light on a 3 way touch dimable lamp from across the room by hitting certain frequencies. Anyway, it doesn't do as claimed and it is a waste of time if that is what you want to achieve. But if you want to experiment with a fun little circuit that does demonstrate the ability to recover some energy from a coil that the common belief says should not be possible, then go for it. It does demonstrate a lot of the same principles as the SG and other circuits that recover the inductive spikes. |
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If one can get COP 2 then I say it's well worth experimenting with. Thanks for the responses.
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clarifications
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And take note there was some extended running time from the recharging pulses but it damages the battery. If I were to get involved in with that circuit again, I'd take the spike to a completely separate diode to a completely separate battery to recover those spikes to get a battery to be in either charge or discharge mode. That means you can't use the mosfet with the internal diode since it directs the spike right back to the source. Probably a transistor circuit just like SG would work and a dedicated diode at the emitter that takes the spike to a separate battery. Nunnerley stated way back that he or a friend was getting excess heat from an Ainslie variation with a hot water heater resistor but never showed a schematic that I know of. And a friend of mine in Croatia was generating overunity heat with a similar circuit but was using capacitive discharge into the inductive resistor instead of a pulsed battery. I don't think all is lost with these experiments - but you simply have to disregard anything that Ainslie says about it. |
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Would your Croatian friend share the schematic with us?
Thanks,
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