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Almost 7800 articles in Pubmed on Redox Signaling

For those that think redox signaling is some new made up science, guess again.

Here are almost 7800 published article abstracts in Pubmed on Redox Signaling. redox signaling - PubMed result
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I would like to see cancer patients take this stuff under biofeedback, thats the first we would do if it gets to Oz. WE can do this independent of the FDA

Drive safe and be safe Bro, knock em dead.

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redox signaling molecules

Ash,

There are things we would have to talk in private about because I can't
discuss them here.

In any case, anyone in the Vegas area should come down to the convention! Contact me for details.

Things are getting exciting!

On Pubmed, the number of articles on redox signaling just went over
7800!

7801: redox signaling - PubMed result
as of right now.

Basically, without taking the redox signaling molecules into consideration...
all other biochemical schools of thought in regards to supplements,
concoctions, etc... are all in vain to a % that is proportionate to the
body's ability to make the redox signaling molecules. Which, decrease
every year because of the number of functioning mitochondria.

A baby has 100% cellular efficiency (all the mitochondria are functioning).

At 70 years of age, it is 10% because 90% of the mitochondria are
damaged or dead.

At 90 years of age, it is 5%.
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Aaron sure thing my friend.

Looks like redox molecules are already SUPPRESSED (and not mainstream) for cancer treatment, these guys fought the FDA to cal it a supplement but had to do many tests , maybe we can reference redox molecules used in supplements for cancer treatments and not ASEA blah blah...

POLY-MVA appears to be a selective metabolic modulator. Since it is a potent redox molecule, it has the ability to provide an alternative energy source to cells. While this is certainly of benefit to both normal and ischemic cells, based on their metabolic dysfunction it is detrimental to malignant cells .

PolyMVA Survivors,

Aaron check them out please
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Ash,

I sent you an email.

PolyMVA is not a natural substance made by the body. The redox signaling molecules are.

Over the last 11 or so years, I have recommended PolyMVA to many people and have put them in direct contact with the company. It works, but is one single option that doesn't have a counter balance. But nevertheless, it works.

With the balanced and stabilized redox signaling molecules, many things are accomplished without having a one-sided approach.
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Is there any information about using these redox signaling molecules by subcutaneous injection. There might be more of a benefit than having to pass
through the gastrointestinal tract first. Someone on another thread was suggesting to make a homeopathic version, but I do not think that would work.

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Is there any information about using these redox signaling molecules by subcutaneous injection. There might be more of a benefit than having to pass
through the gastrointestinal tract first. Someone on another thread was suggesting to make a homeopathic version, but I do not think that would work.

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All tests have shown drinking it is highly absorbable and digestion is not an issue. Digestion doesn't have to break it down in addition to the fact that it easily passes through any mucus membrane. The molecules are 2,3,4,+ atoms big so not an issue.

I don't think a homeopathic version would work. If adding it to water or alcohol for example, it will change the chemistry and each successive cycle of succussion would have molecules that are changed no longer making a homeopathic of the original molecules.
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taking my courses of ASEA

Started my courses of ASEA last night. My wife is doing the same. I will be taking notes of my progress and keeping a diary of my daily activities.

Started my courses of ASEA last 3 days ago. My wife is doing the same. Taking notes of my progress and keeping a diary of my daily activities.

Me and my family are already discussing what will we do to support this health tonic. right now we just take it one day at a time and hope to see the benefits. I have an elderly father that needs it and of family member with other life treating issues none of them cancer.

I believe I have already started to notice some feelings of improvements in my health. but i wont get to excited just yet.

I suffer from stomach ulcers and take precipitation medication for this.
i have notice a drop in discomfort level I haven't felt for along time
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the Redox is really kicking in Now.
my level of concentration has improved and I am not so tried. I would always have a sleep in the afternoon. the need for that is not there.
The pain in my legs when I would go running has reduced so much I would say its a non event. I can now run faster and go further with out needing the next day off to recover.
You should no I am 50 years old with a titanium hip replacement. and at Christmas I broke my pelvis in three places when I fell of my bike.
there has been a reduction in my ulcer medication I need to only take half of what I was on before. there are other improvments that are personal in nature I cannot mention if you get my drift
all round just feeling better
If this trend continues this will be awesome.
How long will it be before the Redox is affecting the sales of prescription medication. it would not surprise me to see a smear campaign by the drug companies.
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MMS has benefits but the downfall is that there is nothing to
neutralize the massive oxidative stress caused by it.
There are a number of conflicting details on the manner in which MMS works
to neutralize targets.

An antioxidant such as hydrogen peroxide is able to enter into more
intimate contact with cells in the body than is the chlorine dioxide
molecule partially due to its natural production by cells on which
it will take effect in response to varying conditions.

Whereas h2o2 will increase risk for oxidative stress with increased
rates of exposure, the foreign atomic structure of chlorine dioxide
causes interactions only with undesirable contaminates and organisms.
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There are a number of conflicting details on the manner in which MMS works
to neutralize targets.

An antioxidant such as hydrogen peroxide is able to enter into more
intimate contact with cells in the body than is the chlorine dioxide
molecule partially due to its natural production by cells on which
it will take effect in response to varying conditions.

Whereas h2o2 will increase risk for oxidative stress with increased
rates of exposure, the foreign atomic structure of chlorine dioxide
causes interactions only with undesirable contaminates and organisms.
What about ozonated water?
Some techniques in the water can help you to eliminate toxic substances. A High-pH, Very negative ORP (rH2), water.. can help you to neutralize also the undesirable chemicals.
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Ozone is toxic in very small quantities, therefore it is something I would
avoid drinking.

Hi-pH water, or rather alkaline water seems as though it would be a negotiable
technique due to the way our immune defense mechanisms will only operate
properly in the presence of an alkaline system. I'm glad you brought it up
because there is a lot of research done in this area as it relates to
treatment of cancerous tissue, which thrives in acidic conditions.

Dr Howenstine has written quite a bit on the use of alkaline treatment, and
states there is a much lower incidence of cancer around areas in which the
water supply contains high levels of alkaline mineral deposits.

The ionized water technique, breaking down clusters of h2o2 molecules into
smaller groups - good suggestion!

AskaHealer.com states the benefits of ionized water, including more complete
absorbtion of supplements and nutrition from foods and protection from oxidative
stress, among others.
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Thanks for the info of Dr. Howenstine,
I have to say that I drink 2 to 3 liters of ozonated water a day and the only things I've notice are small benefits. My swear smells very hard, and the only things that have worked for me are:
1) Distiller water, drinking 3 liters a day
2) Any kind of water, including distilled, ozonated.

The really thing I've heard is depending what machine you use to make ozone, it can be more or less dangerous. Not for the ozone itself, but for other substances that could be created during the process.
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I just got back home from the Asea Convention in Vegas and I met a couple of people there from this forum. It is nice to have a face in mind to go with a name

I just have to share some of the first-hand testimonials I heard - stories that could only be called miraculous!

There was a man who had many medical issues. He had not worked in years and in 2010 he was on over 60 prescriptions! He started taking Asea this year and since March 6 has not had a single prescription!

There was a single mom with two young boys, both born with multiple challenges. One of the boys was born with a broken leg and could not walk properly. He mostly crawled and sort of dragged himself using his elbows. Within a few months of taking Asea, he started to be able to walk, run and play for the first time. In fact, at the receptions he was actually dancing the whole nite!

A woman had some sort of growth in her throat for several years making it difficult to talk and impossible to sing (which she used to love to do). She started drinking Asea and about 3 months later she got into a coughing spell one nite. The growth dislodged and she coughed it out. She sang karaoke at the convention.

There was a woman who had a severe degenerative muscular disorder. She rather young, perhaps 40. Her entire left side had become numb from the disease and she stopped talking because it was too painful. After taking Asea she can now walk with the use of a cane and it no longer hurts her to talk. In fact, she also sang at the karaoke party and she said that by next year, she plans on dancing with her husband at the convention.

Les Brown, the great motivational speaker, was there and talked to us. He shared that about 15 or 16 years ago he had prostate cancer. He beat it but it came back last year far worse than the first time. His PSA (or PST, whatever they are called) levels were over 1,500! He heard about Asea from a friend and started taking it. His levels are now less than 1 and he is healthy.

These are just some of the stories I heard and want to share.

Before hearing these, I thought Asea was a good product. Now, I know that it is a great product and there is nothing in the world like it!

As for me, my back issues are still history!

I did a lot of walking at the convention. One day Aaron and I had lunch with a large group of people at the Harley Davidson Cafe across the street from the convention. Although this was across the street, we probably walked at least 3/4 of a mile to get there. We started off at one end of the convention area and had to walk to the other end, down a couple of levels, out to the street and up three flights of steps to a walkway across the street. I was doing fine until I saw the three flights of steps. I thought that I wouldn't be able to climb those and almost told Aaron I would take the elevator instead. However, I didn't want to slow us down so I didn't say anything and decided to at least try. Though I was a tiny bit winded at the top, I did it! And absolutely no back pain at all the entire trip!
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molecule partially due to its natural production by cells on which
it will take effect in response to varying conditions.
Hydrogen peroxide is actually a reactive oxygen molecule - the opposite of an antioxidant.

The mitochondria in the cells to produce various chlorine molecules as well and they are reactive oxygen molecules.
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The ionized water technique, breaking down clusters of h2o2 molecules into
smaller groups - good suggestion!
Ozone in small quantities is exactly what our mitochondria produce and is in a perfect balance with the reduced species molecules that activate antioxidants that will neutrailize any oxidation caused by the ozone. It's a perfect system.

The redox signaling molecules supplement - that is also a perfect system and is what makes it 100% non toxic and ultra effective - while containing small amounts ozone.

To break down h2o2 into smaller molecules (water and oxygen), that is the job of the catalase enzyme. This supplement increases the amount of catalase enzyme the body produces - again - part of the perfect system.
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I heard its about 220$ per month to take if in Australia, i think if its going to be at that price i should apply it as a medical supplement , this way patients could get it on MEDICARE (a subsidy of our health care system). I would hate to see people suffer in pain cause of a high price that's all

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I heard its about 220$ per month to take if in Australia
Please keep in mind that is when the company is unable to send it direct.

For example, I would have to order it, pay tax and shipping to my location.
Then I would have to turn around and send it with intl shipping on top of that
and that is why the price is higher.

When it is officially in Australia, it will be substantially less expensive. It is
just a matter of time.

It will be in Italy in a couple months! That is the first international
country outside of Canada.

Anyone that wants to be notified about international expansion needs
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There was a single mom with two young boys, both born with multiple challenges. One of the boys was born with a broken leg and could not walk properly. He mostly crawled and sort of dragged himself using his elbows. Within a few months of taking Asea, he started to be able to walk, run and play for the first time. In fact, at the receptions he was actually dancing the whole nite!
Hi Pamela,

Thanks for posting about that!

I want everyone to know what happened to that boy that couldn't walk
so they know very clearly what kind of challenge he went through.

When his mom was pregnant with him, the father kicked her in the stomach
so hard that it broke the legs and hip of the unborn baby boy!

He was crippled since birth obviously and has been in a wheelchair his
whole life. He is 7 years old and is about as small as a 4-5 year old.
In his entire life, 5 minutes is the longest he was ever able to stand
on his own. In 3.5 weeks of drinking this, he was able to stand for
5 HOURS!

5 Minutes to 5 Hours!
This is not just some "supplement" and I hope everyone gets that.

To see the joy in this boys eyes to be dancing all night long with all of us
was a sight to behold. The entertainers were imitating the Rat Pack and
the Sammy David Junior was singing Mr. Bojangles and that little boy was
Mr. Bojangles. He was spinning around on the floor, dancing, and even
doing somersaults! From standing 5 minutes at the longest during his
entire 7 years to this.

When we say that this is helping people get their lives back we mean it, but
for that boy, he is able to have a life that he never knew he had.

His own brother never spoke more than 3 words during an entire month
throughout his whole life. He must have been within 1-2 year of age of
his brother that was born with the broken legs. After a short time, he is
talking so much that they "can't shut him up". I can't say what condition
he has but the number of children that get this are growing at what seems
to be an exponentiation rate. But from 3 words per month to talking
A LOT in just a few weeks - ask any parent in the world what it would
mean to them to have their child in the same condition have a turn around
like that.

Anyway, I literally have tears rolling down my face thinking about what
I saw and who I met this past weekend. These are just 2 boys out of
countless people that came from all over because of what this has done
for them, their family and their friends.

I know with immovable conviction that I made the right decision to risk
everything to back this company and this product. Everything has led
to this for a reason!

Anyone that wants to challenge the reality of what this is about will
meet the same challenge as a naked man trying to climb a wall of ice.

Before, I was already through the roof with my enthusiasm about what
we have our hands on and after this past weekend, the language doesn't
even exist to describe where my heart is at with this.

My moral obligation to spread the word about this to every human being
I know has been increased a hundredfold - there is so much more that I
want to share but I don't even have the words for it.

I do want to share about my personal experience on this trip drinking
15-25 ounces every single day from last Tuesday until this past Monday
but will have to post some of that soon, still catching up from the time
I was gone.
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Please keep in mind that is when the company is unable to send it direct.

For example, I would have to order it, pay tax and shipping to my location.
Then I would have to turn around and send it with intl shipping on top of that
and that is why the price is higher.

When it is officially in Australia, it will be substantially less expensive. It is
just a matter of time.

It will be in Italy in a couple months! That is the first international
country outside of Canada.

Anyone that wants to be notified about international expansion needs
to join this list: ASEA International
Hello Folks, all very interesting. However I think Ash makes a very important point re cost. $200 per month ! For many people it may as well be a $1000 a month! Aaron if your saying cost will drop as it gets accepted elsewhere, the tell me, how much it now costs in USA ?
And if now in Italy how much there ?
I am not on a knocking campaign, but we have to find a way to this too those folk who really need it, and often can't afford these prices.

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I do want to share about my personal experience on this trip drinking
15-25 ounces every single day from last Tuesday until this past Monday
but will have to post some of that soon, still catching up from the time
I was gone.
Awe come on! Don't leave us hanging. I've got my popcorn out ready to see what larger doses does. You can't leave us hanging like that
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Hello Folks, all very interesting. However I think Ash makes a very important point re cost. $200 per month ! For many people it may as well be a $1000 a month! Aaron if your saying cost will drop as it gets accepted elsewhere, the tell me, how much it now costs in USA ?
And if now in Italy how much there ?
I am not on a knocking campaign, but we have to find a way to this too those folk who really need it, and often can't afford these prices.

Regards Bren.
It is not officially in Australia so getting it in Australia is a special circumstance. It is $140 USD ONLY FOR THE SHIPPING 22 pounds (2 cases). Seeing this as the real price is really taking it out of context I believe.

I didn't say it was in Italy yet but will be going there first - as early as October and possibly as late as early 2012.

If you have govt and customs connections where they can rapidly approve
a product and company, get in touch with me. Otherwise, it is a slow
process. They're focused on Italy and the EU for now but will be
obviously expanding after that. These things take time normally.
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Awe come on! Don't leave us hanging. I've got my popcorn out ready to see what larger doses does. You can't leave us hanging like that
lol - I'll get to it, just been going non stop since I've been back. I averaged 3.5 to 4.5 hours of sleep per night from Aug 23rd Tue to Aug 29th the
following Mon. This is a super human drink. I'll give details.
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I have recently just gotten interested in getting healthier. I have conclude that ASEA is pretty incredible stuff.
I'm 50 & have never really been health oriented, other than playing soccer & ultimate semi regularly, I don't do much for my health. I have in the past used some supplements to gain weight/mussels, and at times taken somethings to help with ADD.

I would like more energy and better focus. I do plain on juicing once a day. Do you have any other suggestions for other supplements to take along with the ASEA?
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I have recently just gotten interested in getting healthier. I have conclude that ASEA is pretty incredible stuff.
I'm 50 & have never really been health oriented, other than playing soccer & ultimate semi regularly, I don't do much for my health. I have in the past used some supplements to gain weight/mussels, and at times taken somethings to help with ADD.

I would like more energy and better focus. I do plain on juicing once a day. Do you have any other suggestions for other supplements to take along with the ASEA?
Hi Roland,

I'd take ASEA on an empty stomach upon waking. Then wait 10 minutes before eating or drinking anything (or taking other supplements). I'm investigating a few things but I'd recommend liquid ionic trace minerals.

Amazon.com: Liqumins ConcenTrace Trace Mineral Drops, Low Sodium, 8-Ounce Bottle: Health & Personal Care

Concentrace is the best - use ionic instead of colloidal, chelated, etc...

Trace mineral deficiency is one of the biggest problems because we don't get them in the normal food supply anymore and it is a panacea on its own. However - because of what I know now - ASEA first then trace minerals.

For about $6/month for those trace minerals at that price on Amazon, hard to beat. That 8oz bottle is about a 3 month supply for 1 person at the full dose, but build up slowly and take it in orange juice or something unless you're ok with with the taste - it is VERY concentrated and is so conductive it will complete an electric circuit.

There are some other supplments worth taking but after ASEA, trace minerals are a must unless all your food comes from mineralized soil.

A multivitamin and fatty acids would be at the top of my list.

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lol - I'll get to it, just been going non stop since I've been back. I averaged 3.5 to 4.5 hours of sleep per night from Aug 23rd Tue to Aug 29th the
following Mon. This is a super human drink. I'll give details.
You realize I could just drop dead tomorrow and never know how the increased dosages affected you!!!
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LOL,

Ok - this was the first 2 days of the trip.
ASEA Convention 2011 - Part 1 - Blogs - Redox Signaling Molecules Forum, Articles, Blog and ASEA

Nothing too exciting but the brief tour of the headquarters was really cool.

I averaged 15-20 ounces a day. Make note that before I took the trip, I was in the emergency room 10 days prior because of an injury and I couldn't walk. Right after the hospital - I went to a BBQ then went to a dinner/dance that same night. Didn't dance but was on my feet 4 of the 6 hours I was there. Was supposed to be laid out in bed for a whole week before getting up to walk around. I drank about 15 ounces the day of the injury and the next day when I was in the hospital - super recovery time!

I'll post about all that later.

Anyway, I'll post about the rest of the trip soon.
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immovable hand moves first time in 6 years

Sunday the 4th, a friend, Lawrence who first gave me Stan Meyer and other vids about 10 years ago got a case. He took 1 ounce a day for about 4 days.

He had a stroke 6 years ago and his left arm is swollen like a swelled up sausage. He could only slightly move 2 fingers all those years. When I saw him 4 days later, I could see the skin on his arm was slightly wrinkled - the swelling was already decreased.

He came to a meeting on Saturday (with the founders and atomic medical physicist) - he drank 12 ounces that day, since is was available free sitting back by the water and coffee.

That night, went to sleep without oxygen in the first time in years and he didn't wake up with any kind of panic from not getting enough oxygen.

AND, he woke up with his left hand in a fist! He was able to open and close his hand over and over for the first time in 6 years!

He and his wife went to Peter's to pick up some batteries we were working on for them and he showed this to Peter - he was over the moon.
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If anyone is in the Kalispell, Missoula or Bozeman Montana area this Thur, Fri or Sat, (Sep 15th, 16th & 17th), let me know - there are meetings you can go to in order to see a presentation by a man that is personally responsible for helping thousands of people all over North America get their lives back.

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What a remarkable story about your friend, Aaron! I am continually amazed at some of the stories I am hearing.

I have a few more personal experiences and experiences from people I know that I will post later.
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