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Old 06-04-2011, 02:49 PM
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I used a magnesium anode from a water heater. They use them to prevent corrosion. Don't know the purity.
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I posted this link in another thread, you may be interested:

The Mystery Of Water ( 60 min doc)

YouTube - ‪1 The Mystery Of Water.‬‏

you should check out these posts, i put some info on water that are quite interesting: starting from post# 60 to 71

Trees as radiant energy collector

hope you find it useful.

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Reflection of Mind Projected Thought into Water Photographed

MonsieurM,

Have been enjoying following your posts.

Have you seen this:

Reflection of Mind Projected Thought into Water Photographed

http://www.shunshentao.com/MIND SCIENCE LAB NOTES.htm

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Thank you very much for your interest in this quest for knowledge, And the link you gave me fits perfectly in the thread The Brain is an Advanced Fractal Antenna (do you mind if i quote you)
,You have added a great piece to this cosmic puzzle, we are playing . It resembles one the experiments shown in the documentary, but much more advanced.
you have to know that ever since i started this, you look at the world differently (that is my personal opinion) , a sort of new landscape has appeared out of nowhere while at the same time it has always been within the reach of our hand, just have to know how to harness it(i prefer caress it).When you come to the conclusion that the world is all waves, (you eat waves, you drink waves...you know the rest ), and the world around you does the same, you start to learn how to read these "Adaptive Fractal Antennas", be it human or the rest of nature. Things start to truly make sense....
Some call it Chi, others scalar wave, but it is all the same, if you consider that we are all "antenna" some more Constructal than others(applies even amongst humans, some are truly less constructal ). I would go even as far as to say that those that reach a state of Nirvana, actually reach what scientist call a Standing wave phenomena (sorry for the poor choice of words, see pic) and water is the key to all this, no wonder Tibetan monks live close to the Himalayas ;if you consider it, it is one of the largest Antenna (as a mountain+water Antenna) around
The human body is about 60% water in adult males and 55% in adult females. that 's one big coil inside you?



Electrons - Spherical standing wave


It makes sense now when you think about it, why monks/hermit liked to seclude themselves in a mountain so as to achieve enlightenment. If i ask you to think of the hermit as a tiny coil/antenna ;what happens to a small coil when placed inside a larger coil? I let you ponder on that.... (read this post you'll see how it all converges Trees as radiant energy collector)

ps: if they go on a fast, it is to eliminate wave interference (ie: food)

Sorry it Just felt right to share this info with you guys

the constructal law says (applies for trees and water as well)

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The constructal law puts forth the idea that the generation of design (configuration, pattern, geometry) in nature is a physics phenomenon that unites all animate and inanimate systems, and that this phenomenon is covered by the Constructal Law stated by Adrian Bejan in 1996: "For a finite-size (flow) system to persist in time (to live), its configuration must evolve such that it provides easier access to the imposed currents that flow through it."
Think about the failure of the various societies, nature,so on and on, applies to everything, just have to take the time to view it as such....or on a more positive note, you could apply the Constructal law to a simple match of football and compare the fluidity of the passes, strategies of attack and defense and how it "evolve such that it provides easier access to the imposed currents that flow through it"


note:i write this as it comes to mind, sorry in advance

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Positively charged oxygen-not a likely ion!
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Got the magnesium and some test tubes today, so decided to try out a little experiment

I placed 2 strips of the magnesium onto the test tube, they were both hanging to the sides - but one fell in. Anyway, so far the one that fell in developed a large amount of bubbles on it's surface, enough to float the strip to the water surface. The other one that is still hanging onto the side, has also been covered in bubbles - on the part below the water line.

The water itself is straight out of the tap, the bubbles are probably being generated by a reaction with one or more of the chemicals/minerals in the unfiltered water. Iíll repeat the experiment when I get my RO filter.
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Got the magnesium and some test tubes today, so decided to try out a little experiment.

I placed 2 strips of the magnesium onto the test tube, they were both hanging to the sides - but one fell in. Anyway, so far the one that fell in developed a large amount of bubbles on it's surface, enough to float the strip to the water surface. The other one that is still hanging onto the side, has also been covered in bubbles - on the part below the water line.

The water itself is straight out of the tap, the bubbles are probably being generated by a reaction with one or more of the chemicals/minerals in the unfiltered water. Iíll repeat the experiment when I get my RO filter.
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WATER AND THE SACRED (remember adaptive fractal antenna )

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Water is a primordial element which underlays creation myths and stories around the world. The Egyptian Heliopolitan creation story recounts that the sun-god Atum (Re) reposed in the primordial ocean (Nun). In Assyro-Babylonian mythology, first the gods and subsequently all beings arose from the fusion of salt water (Tiamat) and sweet water (Apsu). The holy books of the Hindus explain that all the inhabitants of the earth emerged from the primordial sea. At the beginning of the Judeo-Christian story of creation, the spirit of God is described as stirring above the waters, and a few lines later, God creates a firmament in the midst of the waters to divide the waters (Genesis 1:1-6). In the Koran are the words We have created every living thing from water.
Sacred Places: Water and the Sacred

MOUNTAINS AND THE SACRED

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Mountains loom large in any landscape and have long been invested with sacredness by many peoples around the world. They carry a rich symbolism. The vertical axis of the mountain drawn from its peak down to its base links it with the world-axis, and, as in the case of the Cosmic Tree (cf. Trees and the Sacred), is identified as the centre of the world. This belief is attached, for example, to Mount Tabor of the Israelites and Mount Meru of the Hindus.
Sacred Places: Mountains and the Sacred



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Thank you very much for your interest in this quest for knowledge, And the link you gave me fits perfectly in the thread The Brain is an Advanced Fractal Antenna (do you mind if i quote you)
,You have added a great piece to this cosmic puzzle, we are playing . It resembles one the experiments shown in the documentary, but much more advanced.


note:i write this as it comes to mind, sorry in advance
a better way of saying it is "everything is fractal", considering this simple statement, you would imagine that [b]behind every apparent law that controls the universe is a fractal/constructal Engine and water is its fuel

a introduction to Gnosis_Secret_Gate_to_Garden_of_Eden

keep in mind the observation i posted ( trees are fractal, one trunk gives rise to two branches female and male etc.... and the role of water)

Gnosis_Secret_Gate_to_Garden_of_Eden.mp4


now this will make more sense after you have watch the previous doc with fractal in mind

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David Lynch explains his understanding about consciousness, creativity and the brain. He says that Transcendental Meditation played crucial role in developing his consciousness and boosting his creativity.
think here about the tree of knowledge

‪David Lynch on Consciousness, Creativity and the Brain (Transcendental Meditation)‬‏ - YouTube


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Interesting. I will look forward for your result .

If you look for kangen water (other brand name) you will find video and pdf about its use for green house plant and japanese hospital. Giant healthy plant and quick injury recovery.

For negative ion use, I think you can get more result with radiant circuit as electrolizer.

See if you get boosted power or at least smoother idle by attaching car body to the alkaline water part. If you don't observe it then it is not the same as Joe Cell.

The symptom seems similar with Bob Beck positive disinfectant and negative cell regeneration from silver electrode, although may not be radiating, unlike Joe Cell.

I would prefer the negative electrode stay longer in the water than the positive. Maybe more than 30 second, for negative ion reason. Explanation at zapper and orgone manipulator thread.
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Old 08-06-2011, 01:18 AM
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HI Jetjis,

How is it going?



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Interesting. I will look forward for your result .

If you look for kangen water (other brand name) you will find video and pdf about its use for green house plant and japanese hospital. Giant healthy plant and quick injury recovery.

For negative ion use, I think you can get more result with radiant circuit as electrolizer.

See if you get boosted power or at least smoother idle by attaching car body to the alkaline water part. If you don't observe it then it is not the same as Joe Cell.

The symptom seems similar with Bob Beck positive disinfectant and negative cell regeneration from silver electrode, although may not be radiating, unlike Joe Cell.

I would prefer the negative electrode stay longer in the water than the positive. Maybe more than 30 second, for negative ion reason. Explanation at zapper and orgone manipulator thread.
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Old 08-07-2011, 09:14 PM
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Hi krzysiek,
I have not been consuming the alkalyzed water for some time now, because my electrolysis setup is just so messy and lame. I intend to build a safe and automatic water charger soon which will look like ordinary water cooler, but will always have water with negative charge ready for use. Most importantly, it will be safe But when I used this water, I really felt real improvements, it is not usual for me as I am not very sensitive and nothing else of similar stuff has ever had any effect on me. So if it works for me, it will work for anyone and anyone can do this at almost no cost. What could be simpler?
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Hi Jetjis,

Thanks for your reply. Glad you could answer I am always looking at ways to better myself and my health so this is very important for me. Can you tell me what exactly was dangerous about your previous set up before? What do you think of the water alkalizers you can buy, I see there are some bench top kits, bit pricey though. But if safe and if it works, then money well spent?
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:05 PM
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Hi and sorry for the late reply.
The setup was very messy with all bare wires and high voltages, if you wasn't carefull, you could get shocked. But that is all. I started using this water few days ago again, because I was starting to feel tired all day. And I must say that I am now much better off. Will continue using it.
I intend to make a flow-through water conditioner, it will have a membrane with a plastic channem maze on each side and then some stainless steel plates on the outside. Kinda lieke a hho cell. The maze will insude steady and long water flow through the electrolyzer. This will make alkalized water on demand whenever you want it. I also might add some peltier elements so that the water can come out cold or hot, for tea or coffee for example. My experiments show that temperatures do not influence the charge of the water much. I tried boiling the alkalized water and then measure the ORP level and it was the same
Such a device should be at every home. Will post pictures as soon as I have something.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:11 AM
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Jetjis,

Please do post pictures

I have a question though, how are you sure that your anode/cathodes being used are not problematic? I am just worried of setting one up and then drinking some type of harmful chemical while 'thinking' I am doing myself good.

I bought an Alkastream filter for my family to use, mainly because it removes fluoride, heavy metals and many of the bad things we have in our water. Also, when the water comes out it is around pH 8.5 so it is alkaline, too. However, it doesn't really ionise the water, and I think that is where the added benefit is.

Can you tell us a little more about your anode/cathode and how to pick a safe choice? I do apologise for all of these questions.
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:00 AM
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I am no expert in this regard, but I believe that conditioning the stainless steel plates should solve most of the problems. Conditioning means putting the plates in distilled water with some KOH or NaOH added as electrolyte. Then you put some 2-3Amps through those electrodes for a day or so. The electrolyte will turn yellow. Then you change the electrolyte and repeat the process. You do this thing till the electrolyte does not become yellow anymore. After that you clean the electrodes and they are ready to be used in your water ionizing project. Just be sure not to change the polarities, that means that you must use positive terminal on that plate which was positive while the conditioning process. And the same for negative terminal. The conditioning ensures that all the impurities, and lose particles leave the electrode, also it increases the surface area of the plate. On the other hand this conditioning is probably not needed, as the water turns yellow while ionizing only on the positive plate and this acidic water is what you wont use anyway. To be sure about electrodes, I guess that platinum coated ones should be the best ones available.
Hope this helps

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Jetjis, thanks very much for your layman terms explanation. It is much appreciated. I bought a water filter but I think the ionisation part of it contributes a lot to it too, just as much as drinking the alkaline water. I have a feeling the ionised water might bring a better/quicker result anyway.

I am only 20 years old, so there is likely not too much wrong with me just yet but I'm interested in getting myself some of this ionised water. Thanks for the tip regarding cleaning the impurities of the SS cathode/anode. Much appreciated. I have also heard titanium is most recommended, I might try some of that... since you wouldn't need much for an electrode, etc.

Do you make it in a plastic container? I have read if you leave the ionised water in the plastic container, it starts to react with the plastic of the actual container, so I have heard it is recommended to empty immediately when the anode/cathode is turned off.

What type of V/A's are you running to power your latest ioniser?

Sorry for all of the questions, & thank you very very much!

PS: What do you think of the ASEA water in comparison? Will you be buying?
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Yes, I make the ionizing water in a plastic container, but since the charge dissipates in about 12h (I measured it with an ORP meter), it is consumed as fast as possible and does not spend too much in the container. It can also be done in glass container, use whatever is at hand. I have not measured the power consumption, but from what I can tell, it should be around 50W, but that depends on the water you use, the more conductive it is, the more power it will consume and faster heat the water. All waters are different. I usually let the process going until the water gets warm, at that point there is almost no point in continuing the charging process, the charge is almost maxed out already.
Hope this helps,
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Old 08-14-2011, 03:31 AM
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Hi Jetjis, thanks very much

Certainly does help. Sorry, I always seem to have a new Question but I promise to stop asking very soon.

Do you use any electrolyte? Can I just use water from the tap or pre-filtered water without any electrolyte?

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No, I did not use any electrolyte, just tap or spring water. This is why you need those high voltages, because the water is not very conductive. You want only ionized water, nothing else, so no electrolyte.
I use tap water mostly, because we have good tap water without any chemicals. But tap water quality differs from place to place. I guess you will be ok with using tap water. If it tastes funny, then there is probably too much calcium or rust or other stuff in the water. A good spring water will not change its taste when ionized. You just have to test all kinds of different water sources and see which one gives the best result. An ORP meter is very handy as you can measure which type of water can be ionized to greater charge, that is usually the best. I found that the best water is from my friends well who lives some distance from me. That is why I always take as much water with me when I visit him. You can get an ORP meter from ebay, costs about 40$.
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Sea water to drink?

In the place I live, the water quality is very bad.
So, I think taking water from the beach and filtering or doing something to it, to make it safe to human.

Do you know a technique to drink water from the sea? I used distillation, but you know that you cannot change the pH of distilled water since it hasn't minerals in it.
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AetherScientist, distilled water can be ionized. No matter that there is no minerals, it just takes higher voltages and longer times. You just need to split few water molecules into ionized form and they will increase the conductivity. And it will increase as there are more water ions. In this case the minerals and salts are replaced by water ions. This has been done in my local physics institute in lab conditions. But it is not practical as the process takes too long. So you probably need to add something, but I man not clear to what. If you use too much salt, you will destroy your steel electrodes. Maybe you can add a tiny bit of bottled mineral water, like evian or something to your distilled water, that should work fine
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:57 PM
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Here is my living water generator in action:
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This looks very good. Can you give us some details about construction? What electrodes do you use, what voltage, how you separate positive and negative charged water?
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:12 PM
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Hi Shmandi,
it is not complicated, I machined two plates with a long channel maze in them so that when they are put one on top of another, the channel is parallel. You just stack those acrylic plates together with the membrane between them and put a sheet of stainless steel on the ends so that you have this config:

steel plate>acrylic channel plate>membrane>acrylic channel pate>steel plate.
I use rectifier AC on the plates, that means about 300V DC. The current consumption is about 3A max if the acrylic plates are 12mm thick, the thinner the more close the electrodes will be and the greater current draw. Also the more channels you have, the higher the current draw, but also bigger ionization difference. The water is pumped from the bottom side up through the two parallel channels at the same time, the water passes through the channels and takes the electrolytic gasses along till the output on top. The electrodes are stainless steel, as far as I know the bad stuff from the electrodes like chromium and such gathers only on the positively charged water so that water is not used and it has not much use for health anyway. The membrane is a filter paper made out of some kind of porous plastic that is used in water filters, works very well. Here are some pictures:





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Thank you for detailed description.
Do you use any gasket between plates?
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Jetis,
Where did you source the filter paper / membrane?
Did you use a CNC to do the machining?
3 alkalizers? A couple of your friends are very happy.
Nice work.
Stephen
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Hi Stephen
The cnc was used only to make those channels in the middle plates, everything else was cut with a saw and drilled as needed. Several people are now testing the device and so far the results are great. The filter membrane was taken from a water filter such as this one:
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Guys shame about the min order for these, would of made a great addition
Titanium electrode for making alkaline & acidic ionized water products, buy Titanium electrode for making alkaline & acidic ionized water products from alibaba.com
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