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LED light panels are a way to provide such a window are wavelengths.Red light of wavelengths that are able to pass through the tissues up to 1 inch deep.LED light therapy has proven effective for a wide range skin rejuvenation needs.
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I've been reading a lot about how infra red light promotes and speeds up the healing process.

I'm just wondering if anyone else on here has looked into this.

I'm planning on building some led arrays and looking for the best prices for led's and circuit boards.

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SSG to power LEDs

Hi everyone! I have learned so much from the wonderful people on this forum. I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on powering 100-200 LEDs using a solid state ssg circuit with the inverted trigger (I think that's what it is). Any ideas on the optimal coil? How would I determine the best way to wire the LEDs?

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I was planning on using 6-7v input. I planned on tuning the ssg to a sweet spot and then switching the LEDs at the desired frequency.
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Hi Athena,

Yes, it does help to stimulate collagen synthesis and reduces wrinkles.

Years ago when we started to get some serious coverage, Dr. Susan Lark,
one of the leading women's health MD's did a feature article about our
lights and the benefits for balancing hormones and I believe skin rejuvenation.
The red and infrared work great for this.

I would use the red/ir light - honestly you could get a red tail light from
a junkyard, hook it to a battery and that is all you need (except it won't
be pulsing) - red led's from radioshack, etc... red light is red light for the
most part. It helps to have some descent intensity so multiple red led's
at minimum. Shine it on the wrinkles for 5-15 minutes at a time three times
a day.

There are some pretty cheap red light panels these days that can be
bought at many different places. You'd have to use them as steady red
light sources and not pulsed but if anyone can make the electronics for
you, it will be a small fraction of the price the ones go for that have the
legitimate frequencies. I just wish those panels came in red and infrared
combo - that would be the ultimate but I haven't found it yet.

Mostly just red or red and blue for the purpose of growing plants.

They're cheap enough that I can get good size panels and do what I've
wanted to do for a long time. I have a 2-3 person infrared sauna in my
garage. I want to line the inside side walls with red led panels to give
that treatment while sitting inside. I will hook them up to a control panel
that does give me the tissue resonant frequencies.

If you can get the electrons to pulse the red lights, 292Hz is the frequency
you want for skin rejuvenation - otherwise, just use steady red light.

If there are any acne issues, then add blue light to the red/infrared.


Hi!
I have a LED panel with 225 red lights. Is there a way to modify it to make the lights pulse at 292Hz? I saw one video where a woman had an electrician make her a plug that caused the light to pulse, but I doubt it was at that particular frequency.

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Old 12-18-2012, 05:44 PM
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I have a LED panel with 225 red lights. Is there a way to modify it to make the lights pulse at 292Hz? I saw one video where a woman had an electrician make her a plug that caused the light to pulse, but I doubt it was at that particular frequency.

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Hi Elizabeth,

You need some kind of circuit to control the pulsing. The way I did it was to take one of those panels you describe and put a transistor on one of the DC output lines and pulse it with a function generator. I used a function generator so it is completely universal.
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I have a LED panel with 225 red lights. Is there a way to modify it to make the lights pulse at 292Hz? I saw one video where a woman had an electrician make her a plug that caused the light to pulse, but I doubt it was at that particular frequency.

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Hello Elizabeth. I'm currently working on this subject - pulsing LED according to Dr Nogier frequencies. My unit works with all seven settings but can be customized for any. I made a unit which fits inside my 225 panel but I'm planning to make separate device which will plug into wall socket and LED panel without modifying them. Device will have its own power supply, pulse generator with preset frequencies or digital display. If you wish to know more about please visit Light Therapy

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Old 12-23-2012, 12:58 AM
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As you have stated...using a red tail light connected to a battery would be suffecient...how about red LED christmas lights mounted on a pegboard. At this point that is what I have access to. I considered that since you said red is red, that the lights I'm using should be able to do something besides be pretty. I stood right up to the lights (they don't get hot) and there are about 200 hundred lights in a 10 across and 20 down pattern. They're not as close as the lights sold in other panels but with regular lights turned off, they're quite bright. I was hoping they would be a deeper red (blood red) but they're light red. Have you personaly had any physical changes for the better using the lights you have mentioned?
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As you have stated...using a red tail light connected to a battery would be suffecient...how about red LED christmas lights mounted on a pegboard. At this point that is what I have access to. I considered that since you said red is red, that the lights I'm using should be able to do something besides be pretty. I stood right up to the lights (they don't get hot) and there are about 200 hundred lights in a 10 across and 20 down pattern. They're not as close as the lights sold in other panels but with regular lights turned off, they're quite bright. I was hoping they would be a deeper red (blood red) but they're light red. Have you personaly had any physical changes for the better using the lights you have mentioned?
Hi Rhozzi,

Red is red as long as it is the same wavelength. 660nm is preferable, which is right in the middle of the red. Meaning 660nm red led is the same color as 660nm red laser. Just one is non-coherent and one is coherent with more brightness. If it is in the low 600nm range, it is just a little shorter and not as crisp as a red but will still work fine.

Are your Christmas tree lights regular bulbs or are they the LED ones? As far as the color, should be fine. If the string is wired for 110vac, might be a little more difficult to get them to pulse at whatever frequency you want compared to DC powered lights.

Maybe someone has a suggestion on a simple circuit to pulse the string that is wired for 110vac at custom frequencies. Even if they're just plugged straight into the wall, I'd imagine it would be pulsing already at 60 times per second. That is if you're in the states using 60 cycles at 110vac. But I would rather have them pulsed with a square wave DC source.
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When feeding light from AC mains you'll end up with 50 or 60Hz (depending on the country). One way is to make a low bandpass filter. It would be simpler to change resistor in line with LED string and power everything from DC source. Simple oscillator made on 555 timer and mosfet will do the job.
One thing confuses me; according to Dr Nogier one of the low frequencies suppose to be 294Hz, while other sources refer to 292Hz. Where this 292Hz came from?

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Would the red LED grow light panel from LEDwholesalers be safe to use for humans? It says to have them 2' away from plants.
I attached 2 pulsing red Led lights to my pegboard with my red Led christmas lights and have been using them for 2 weeks. I saw the plant light and thought it would be a good idea, if it is safe.
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Would the red LED grow light panel from LEDwholesalers be safe to use for humans? It says to have them 2' away from plants.
I attached 2 pulsing red Led lights to my pegboard with my red Led christmas lights and have been using them for 2 weeks. I saw the plant light and thought it would be a good idea, if it is safe.
They're safe for light therapy - the LED's are identical to those in healing units for people. They're just flat panels designed for their application - that is the only difference.
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When feeding light from AC mains you'll end up with 50 or 60Hz (depending on the country). One way is to make a low bandpass filter. It would be simpler to change resistor in line with LED string and power everything from DC source. Simple oscillator made on 555 timer and mosfet will do the job.
One thing confuses me; according to Dr Nogier one of the low frequencies suppose to be 294Hz, while other sources refer to 292Hz. Where this 292Hz came from?

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Vtech,

292 is a multiple of 73 - those Nogier frequencies, which 292 is one (I haven't seen 294), and is for stimulating.

72 is the natural number, which is in balance with our tissues - but we don't use 72 multiple's only 73. That is something I discovered that I don't believe Nogier ever realized.

But in any case, the Nogier tissue resonance frequencies are all multiples of 73.
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Aaron. Yes, it makes sense. When you look at the Nogier link in my earlier post they refer to 294 instead of 292 , that was my confusion.
I got Charles McGee book today - Healing Energies of Heat and Light. Very good reading. I'm working on on few projects at the same time but my pulsing circuit runs well and just needs an enclosure to be made. I'm thinking of making one or two frequencies pulsers which will plug into LED panel without any modifications.
It seems to me that 292 should be one of them.
I suffered eye injury since October. Piece of debris missed my goggles and hit cornea at the pupil area. If its true that one blink takes one calorie I should be a stick man by now. I did three sessions and all discomfort is gone. My vision is improving.

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Dr. McGee shows all the protocols we did including the sauna and everything else you see.

For the eye, 292hz with red and/or infrared. You can close your eyes and put it to the eyelid if the red is too bright - that works fine.
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I've been reading a lot about how infra red light promotes and speeds up the healing process.

I'm just wondering if anyone else on here has looked into this.

I'm planning on building some led arrays and looking for the best prices for led bulb and circuit boards.

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Were you able to construct you led panels. I have seen lots of application of infrared lights you seems to be nice one.
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I may be missing something in my Red LED Christmas light set up if 292 frequency is the part that helps with healing. I also play the healing 528 Solefeggio frequency while using the red light board. Anyway, I don't have a lot of knowledge in using a freqency generator so, what's my next step for my panel in order to get the full benefits?
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I may be missing something in my Red LED Christmas light set up if 292 frequency is the part that helps with healing. I also play the healing 528 Solefeggio frequency while using the red light board. Anyway, I don't have a lot of knowledge in using a freqency generator so, what's my next step for my panel in order to get the full benefits?
You need a source of stable frequency pulses which can be adjusted to the one of your choice. This can be either frequency generator, astable oscillator generating square wave made on transistors or integrated circuit such as NE555, LM393. You also need electronic switch capable of turning LED panel on and off according to driving pulse. Those IC based oscillators can handle mA's only. This part can be done with single transistor, Mosfet or solid state DC relay driven from the oscillator output. Regular relay won't work at high frequencies. While it is easy do pulse AC driven lights there will be an issue with 50 or 60Hz from mains and all related harmonics. We only want certain frequency eg. 292Hz, nothing else. For that reason I would use DC source rather than mains (110 or 220VAC).

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I have a book from the library on the healing power of light and it list different colors (not just red and blue) that have healing influence on the body...such as yellow, orange, green, violet and indigo. Has anyone tried the different colors and had results? Has anyone had long lasting results with the red or blue. I thought of buying the blue light panel but found a site that list side effects for some people using blue light therpy and decided not to try that one. Perhaps a less intence form of blue light would work better, with no negative side effects? Just thinking outloud because blue is very calming.
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Rozzi,

Dinshah probably has the best material on all the multi color light therapy.

However, from what I've seen, red and infrared alone has accomplished every benefit of all the colored light therapy. The exception is in altering the mood, which multi colors do have benefits there that the red/infrared don't.
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My only concern for any suggestions that encourage adapting panels for pulse activity is the safety aspect. While experienced electronic engineers and hobbyist will be aware of working with direct AC high voltage circuits, novice experimenters may not be aware of possible dangers. For any panels or LED clusters working from low voltage adapters which offer supply line isolation can be modified easily. For none isolated AC configurations; then extreme caution must be observed…seek professional advice first before attempting to modify an electrical product.

I can recommend a semiconductor device I have used on several occasions for switching LED’s and other low voltage circuits. BSP452 is ideal as it can be switched directly from logic output devices including 555 timers and micro controllers. This device can be inserted directly in series with the light strings positive source voltage (check data sheets first before use)
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Just curious...Has anyone done the red light therapy with any positive results? I used the red light panel for almost 2 months from 15-40 minutes per day and so far with no notable results.
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Just curious...Has anyone done the red light therapy with any positive results? I used the red light panel for almost 2 months from 15-40 minutes per day and so far with no notable results.
Yes. I healed my eye doing three 10min session of pulsed at 292Hz 660nm light.
I'm still working on portable unit with all seven frequencies. Please visit Energy Science Forum - Electronic Healing Technologies - Red Light Therapy for details.

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Just curious...Has anyone done the red light therapy with any positive results? I used the red light panel for almost 2 months from 15-40 minutes per day and so far with no notable results.
Rhozzi,

Is the red light steady or pulsed?

And can you share the exact benefit you're trying to gain?
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I used the deep red light panel that can be found at ledwholesale. I thought I read that a deeper red would be beneficial, even without the pulsing. I stopped using my christmas light panel with the 2 blinking red lights I had put together once I received the professionally made panel. (It does not pulse that I know of).
I want to see clearly again (disease-macular degeneration) and get rid of a sore on my temple that has not gone away in 3-4 years. I keep it under control with bag balm and some times use tumeric (tumeric can kill tumors).
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In order for red light to be helpful to eyes or skin does it have to be up against the skin or just very close?
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I used the deep red light panel that can be found at ledwholesale. I thought I read that a deeper red would be beneficial, even without the pulsing. I stopped using my christmas light panel with the 2 blinking red lights I had put together once I received the professionally made panel. (It does not pulse that I know of).
I want to see clearly again (disease-macular degeneration) and get rid of a sore on my temple that has not gone away in 3-4 years. I keep it under control with bag balm and some times use tumeric (tumeric can kill tumors).
For macular degeneration, this is what we found.

Our associate's mother was in her 80's and had severely advanced macular degeneration. She stopped going out, stopped going to Church, etc... she couldn't even make out people's faces anymore.

3 times a day, she would shine the red led's in her eyes for 10 minutes at a time pulsed at 292 times per second. In about 6 weeks, it had reversed enough where she could start making out faces and about 6 weeks after that, it had improved so much, she could could tell the difference in coins (pocket change) and was going back to church and going back out elsewhere. It had turned her life around.

The red LED's are much brighter these days. That was about 12 years ago or so. I wouldn't recommend doing that directly in the eye. What I do myself just for a good boost to the eyes is I close my eye lids and shine the led's right on them.

Anyway, that is the only experience I know of someone near me that received benefits for macular degeneration and red leds.
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Thank you so much for those encouraging words. I haven't yet found a way that I can pulse my red light panel to 292. I don't know very much about electronics as some do that are on this forum. I've tried to find some kind of device I can plug into the wall and attach my panel to make it pulse. Hasn't happened yet. But, thank you again.
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You can try it with steady light.

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I understand you're not giving medical advice. I just appreciate the sharing of someone being helped with the red lights.
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Thank you so much for those encouraging words. I haven't yet found a way that I can pulse my red light panel to 292. I don't know very much about electronics as some do that are on this forum. I've tried to find some kind of device I can plug into the wall and attach my panel to make it pulse. Hasn't happened yet. But, thank you again.
Hi rhozzi,

I should have my device ready within a week or so. It will work with one/couple 30W or less LED panels as well as stylus pointer for small areas (point treatment). Circuit isn't complicated, even for a beginner and was intended to be that way, rather than using Arduino or other programmable microprocessors.
There is no need to complicate and confuse. I mainly post on Energy Science Forum> Electronic Healing Technologies due to the work load.
If you wish to have something build and need a hand I'll be happy to assist.
Below is one of my setups with 711 LED panel and (unfinished) control unit on the right. It will have all 7 frequencies available.

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