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Old 08-09-2010, 03:19 AM
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Nausea and Vomiting: Well known effects when "getting" the major kill-off of pathogens. Jim warns about this over and over, and has from the beginning. When using daily maintenance drops, this does not happen at all. People can also stop it quickly by drinking juice with Vitamin C in it. I have tried the idea Jim mentions to help with nausea, chopped up apples, and it helps (without neutralizing the MMS). This is a WELL KNOWN ISSUE FROM DAY 1 ; twisted to sound "dangerous". They are actually using psy-ops tactics here..
Indirectly related with Hulda Clark, I think nausea and vomiting is a sign of cancer induced energy. The same you receive from cellphone, computer monitor, zapper, orac, cancer flusher, natural antibiotics, etc.

I think everyone should do something when they experience that. There are many ways to counter it, including sun bathing at dawn. You have to learn odic force / radiant energy / orgonite / radionics for better solution.
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The Sale Of MMS May Be One Step Closer To Coming To A Halt In The USA

Over the past week or so, scrutiny has fallen upon MMS and the FDA has released an alert to its use. This course of events may lead to further action up to, and including, banning the sale of MMS in the USA. The ban would effect all of our customers worldwide!

CNN has posted an article on this (CLICK HERE TO READ ARTICLE), and it is also referred to on Drugs.com | Prescription Drugs - Information, Interactions & Side Effects (CLICK HERE TO READ ARTICLE). It's ironic that drugs.com posts hundreds of serious side-effects on each and every allopathic, government approved, drug (many of these drugs even have DEATH as a side-effect), but they are (overly) concerned about mild, superficial, "side effects" like temporary stomach discomfort, throwing up, or being tired, seeing that these are minor "side-effects" compared to most of what is referenced on their site; for that matter, these are common symptoms of someone who is overcoming an ailment in the first place.

Let us take a quick look at what “Adverse Reactions” have occurred with “clinically proven, government approved” allopathic medicines, including life threatening reactions…

(1998) "Our study revealed that experiencing an ADR [Adverse Drug Reaction] while hospitalized substantially increased the risk of death (1971 excess deaths, OR 1.208, 95% CI 1.184-1.234). This finding reflects about a 20% increase in mortality associated with an ADR in hospitalized patients. Extrapolating this finding to all patients suggests that 2976 Medicare patients/year and 8336 total patients/year die in U.S. hospitals as a direct result of ADRs; this translates to approximately 1.5 patients/hospital/year."

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C. A. Bond, PharmD, FASHP, FCCP and Cynthia L. Raehl, PharmD, FASHP, FCCP, "Adverse Drug Reactions in United States Hospitals," Pharmacotherapy, 2006;26(5):601-608.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/531809

(1998) "3. The most obvious concern when dealing with drug safety is the possibility of lethal effects. Can the drug cause death?

"4. Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal, effects. Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity.

"6. Aspirin, a commonly used over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year.

1. (1998) "Adverse drug reactions are a significant public health problem in our health care system. For the 12,261,737 Medicare patients admitted to U.S. hospitals, ADRs were projected to cause the following increases: 2976 deaths, 118,200 patient-days, $516,034,829 in total charges, $37,611,868 in drug charges, and $9,456,698 in laboratory charges. If all Medicare patients were considered, these figures would be 3 times greater."

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C. A. Bond, PharmD, FASHP, FCCP, and Cynthia L. Raehl, PharmD, FASHP, FCCP, Department of Pharmacy Practice, School of Pharmacy, Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center, Amarillo, Texas, "Adverse Drug Reactions in United States Hospitals" Pharmacotherapy, 2006;26(5):601-608.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/531809



2. (1996): "Each year, use of NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs) accounts for an estimated 7,600 deaths and 76,000 hospitalizations in the United States." (NSAIDs include aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen, diclofenac, ketoprofen, and tiaprofenic acid.)

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Robyn Tamblyn, PhD; Laeora Berkson, MD, MHPE, FRCPC; W. Dale Jauphinee, MD, FRCPC; David Gayton, MD, PhD, FRCPC; Roland Grad, MD, MSc; Allen Huang, MD, FRCPC; Lisa Isaac, PhD; Peter McLeod, MD, FRCPC; and Linda Snell, MD, MHPE, FRCPC, "Unnecessary Prescribing of NSAIDs and the Management of NSAID-Related Gastropathy in Medical Practice," Annals of Internal Medicine (Washington, DC: American College of Physicians, 1997), September 15, 1997, 127:429-438.
http://www.annals.org/content/127/6/429.full.pdf
Citing: Fries, JF, "Assessing and understanding patient risk," Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology Supplement, 1992;92:21-4.


And the FDA wants to ban MMS?

At pennies per dose, MMS has helped hundreds of thousands of people overcome their health issues; anything from Malaria to allergies, from skin disorders to the common cold, from fungal infections to even burns.

And the FDA wants to ban MMS?

They may ban MMS and stop us from selling it, but they can't stop educated people from knowing about it, and they definitely can not stop you from using it when you need it.


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Old 08-10-2010, 03:42 PM
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Nice info, m8

What we may need to do, is produce it ourselves then. And then if you just take it yourself and not try to distribute it openly, that would not be illegal. After all there is not even a law against making Moonshine liquor; if you only drink it yourself and don't try to sell it.

It would also be highly ironic, if there is huge calamity, or pandemic, or societal breakdown... and MMS is about the only thing available to help the sick people at the bottom of the food chain, the people who will be left to die in some government "triage" decision..... Such people would not be corporate executives, that is for sure, lol. They will the poor and "friendless" people left to die.

If the government had ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL of MMS being toxic to humans in the recommended doses, or even that it was as dangerous as antibiotics (which pose a grave danger from bacteria mutating and becoming immune to it from over-use; not to mention having VERY SIMILAR side effects when taken in large amounts).... Then there would be plausible cause.

There is only one plausible cause here, and it is quite blatant: Corruption and Graft. The protection of pharm corporations and the medical industry in general (including the private health insurance companies, who can only profit from having a large proliferation of SICK people around, otherwise people would not spend up to 15% of their income for it).

This is several TRILLION dollars a year in the US alone... It's hard to calculate how much, considering how widespread the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries are now.

Here we have an extremely cheap medicine, with no long term side effects or known serious risks, that can cure many of the diseases that poor people get and often die from.

So the government's response is to make it illegal?
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Excuse me if I go over board here but I'm as heck. It's official now the FDA is trying to threaten sellers of MMS. It's even stated on the FDA web site that they "continue to investigate and may pursue civil or criminal enforcement actions as appropriate to protect the public from this potentially dangerous product." F*** the FDA!!!!!! I am not a seller but an order I just placed for some a week ago shows an update on that web site saying essentially they were threatened by the FDA so they aren't selling any more and are doing a voluntary recall. We need to start writing letters on this. This is going to be a showdown. I actually think it will be hard for the FDA to enforce or stop sellers as it is a water purifier and can be sold as such. But in the meantime at a time when awareness of MMS is just getting big it may stop many people from the health benefits it could provide so cheaply.




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Old 08-17-2010, 12:45 AM
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MMS 'Recall'

I am an open minded guy and being health conscious will try most things within reason. It was cheap so I gave MMS a good shot (I went through the 'cleanse') however after this and taking into account considerable research, I'm still undecided.

Quite frankly, it tasted like you were drinking raw chemical chlorine, (and I have no problem eating/drinking things if I know they will do me good), the nausea was overwhelming, (and I'm very fit and healthy, therefore unconviced this is a 'cleanse effect' as is claimed) and I sure wouldnt want to brush my teeth constantly with the solution (another wonderful claim) not unless you wish to have zero enamel remaining from the Citric acid.

All in all, I don't think this is the best approach to a healthy body.

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On a separate note some of you may be interested that most manufacturers (USA based likely) are now recalling the product. Read into this what you will. Some of you may get upset and claim it is a "FDA conspiracy" but having trialed the product and done the research, I think it is a chemical that can do more harm than good. Besides, all we have to go off are the writings of one man who CLAIMS to have 'cured' malaria (and AIDS) here and there with no real tangible proof except a few very outdated photocopied references.

Relax....not everything is about the mysterious 'Cabal' out to do the world harm.

Anyway the following is the recall I received in the email from 'XYZ Co' (which are actually not USA based anyway). Notice it is a VOLUNTARY recall at this stage.

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URGENT: MMS Product Recall Notice

Dear Customer,

You are receiving this email because our records indicate you may have purchased a product called "MMS" from our company at some time in the past.

Following discussion with FDA officials, XYZ Co is effecting an immediate voluntary recall of its sodium chlorite solution product labeled "MMS Professional - Miracle Mineral Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops".

Questions and answers on voluntary recall of XYZ's sodium chlorite product:

Q. What products are affected by this recall?

A. Sodium chlorite solution, labeled as "MMS Professional - Miracle Mineral Solution - Premium Water Purification Drops" distributed by XYZ Co, LLC. This product comes in a 4 oz green plastic bottle. This recall is for all lot numbers.

Q. Why was this product recalled?

A. XYZ International, LLC is initiating this voluntary recall because of safety concerns raised by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in regards to chlorine dioxide. As a precautionary measure, the company is recalling all sodium chlorite product, effective August 13, 2010.

Q. What should I do if I resell or have ever resold this product?

A. Quit selling this product and inform anyone you have sold this product to in the past by sending them a copy of this recall communication.

Q. What should I do if I have some of this product?

A. The FDA recommends that consumers stop using this product. Further distribution or use of any remaining product should cease immediately. If you have any unused product, you may seal the container and return it to the address provided below. Shipping account information will be provided upon request. XYZ will work with all customers to make them whole.

If you have any questions or comments, please email XYz Co.

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Hi Folks, don't let the FDA warning bother you, they usually wait for a few thousand fatalities before they do a recall!
If there were a few they could blame on mms, don't you think they (FDA) would make it head-line news ?

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I agree, in the past they have made no bones about using whatever information they have against Alternative health products to attack them.

We can safely assume that they have NO significant evidence for this recall and threats.

Because if they did we would have seen it.

Queasiness means the user was either having a large kill-off of micro flora (such as Candide yeast), or were taking too many drops at a time. Generally the kill-off induced effect is "one-time" for reasonably healthy people.

The use of the word "bleach" is a misnomer.... It chemically is closer to table salt than chlorine bleach.

There is no Nitric acid (HNO3), involved in MMS. There is Citric Acid that is used as the activating agent (C6H8O7).
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Hi Sharyn,

Great thread!! Free E-Book available: Miracle Mineral

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Another option to consider - Discovered by U.S inventor Jim Humble, you can download part 1 of his e-book for free from his site Miracle Mineral. Suppliers worldwide for the Miracle Mineral can also be found on this site. This is a very cheap & cost effective treatment & readily available throughout a number of countries.

Extract - "This Breakthrough can save your life, or the life of a loved one.
Please read.
The answer to AIDS, hepatitis A,B and C, malaria, herpes, TB, most cancer and many more of mankind's worse diseases has been found. Many diseases are now easily controlled. More that 75,000 disease victims have been included in the field tests in Africa. Scientific clinical trials have been conducted in a prison in the country of Malawi, East Africa.



Separate tests conducted by the Malawi government produced identical 99% cure results. Over 60% of the AIDS victims that were treated in Uganda were well in 3 days, with 98% well within one month. More than 90% of the malaria victims were well in 4 to 8 hours. Dozens of other diseases were successfully treated and can be controlled with this new mineral supplement. It also works with colds, flu, pneumonia, sore throats, warts, mouth sores, and even abscessed teeth (it's the only thing that controls and cures abscessed teeth).


The inventor believes that this information is too important to the world that any one person or any group should have control. The free e-book download on this site gives complete details of this discovery. Please help make sure that it gets to the world free. There are many medical facts that have been suppressed and this invention must not be added to that list. The name of the e-book is The Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century. This book tells the story of the discovery, and how to make and use it. This book can save your life. Give it a try"


I came across this site when looking for suppliers in Australia. I recommend looking at it for its ease of viewing all the relevant videos which I originally had spent quite a bit of time sifting through Youtube to find separately. Videos - Miracle Mineral Solution, The MMS Experience - Brisbane, Australia



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Another good reading on MMS

Well written and easy to comprehend - No Miracle, Just Wonderful Chemistry « Thought for Food


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I was wondering how you are doing on MMS now? Are you still using it? What has it done for you?
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I was wondering how you are doing on MMS now? Are you still using it? What has it done for you?
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@Inika Yes, I've been using it for the past year. I can report a few cases of cold, flu with all symptoms gone within 24-30hrs. Two cases of abscess tooth healed with all symptoms gone within 3-4 days. Great healing effects on cuts, burns and lacerations. Couple cases of migraine vanishing within an hour. I've been also using extensively as a disinfectant in kitchen, bathrooms, laundry and bedding after night. It works well as a deodorant. I always carry kit with atomizer bottle to clean my hands when I travel. It works great for me and those who became aware of it. I recently switched to 50% citric acid (I also use lemon juice) which allow me to mix 1:1 and reduces activation time down to 30sec instead of 3 min. I use small 2 drop doses unless I prepare disinfecting solution to be used with atomizer. In such case I do 6 drops and 4oz of water. Solution in atomizer slowly loses potency but it is still effective for the day.

I hope this helps


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All as you do is the same as they did for black salve, say its flea remover for your dog do not say its for human consumption . Then we work on votes to get the FDA.

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Not sure if this is old news.
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Hi Moe and all. Y4es it is old news but well worth a read. The fda on in attack mode, upto all their usual tricks, but nothing new on Jim Humble. If they had something relevent it would be headline news, worldwide headline news.
Would'nt they just love the headline ' baby fed mms grows two heads!' 'dog goes mad and attacks owner after smelling mms!'
But lets not kid ourselves fda and like organisations will stop at nothing in their attempts to close down anything they and their paymasters can-not control.
Has anyone on this site attended Jim's school in Dominican Republic, if so lets have some feedback please.

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Hi all...I would request more anecdotal info on how MMS helped, or didn't help you. Please give us your stories on it, "pro" or "con"
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My story, definite pro. I generally enjoy very good health, with the exception of some migraines and (as mentioned in my earlier post) a rare bout of a particularly bad flu.

When I do get a flu, I tend to only suffer the effects for about 1/3 of the time it effects most other people. If takes 4 or 5 days to get over, I'll be over it in a day and half or so.

In august 2009 a friend fell terribly ill while she was me. In teh space of an hour or two she went from "not feeling so well" to burning with fever, very weak pulse, no energy and a few hours later she seemed only semi-coherent. Since she was traveling and had no family or friends, I took her in and nursed her for six days. On the seventh day, I began to feel the same symptoms. As I began to get fall ill, I remembered reading about MMS and thinking "I'll have to try that next time I get sick." I'd found a local chemist who stocked it along with other stuff you wouldn't expect a chemist to stock. (she's a pretty amazing lady, actually, tuned right in.)

So I got the MMS and made myself a dose. I started with 3 drops in lemon juice, let that set, then topped the glass up with water and drank the whole lot down. I broke out in a cold sweat and became really queasy in the space of a minute or two. My friend who'd gone to buy the MMS for me was still there, and I said to him, "well that worked fast, I'm going to throw this bug up in a second, I'll be right in half an hour." I actually had to induce vomiting, but as I expected, as soon as I'd emptied my stomach, I started to feel better right away. (Note, this wasn't nausea caused by MMS, I normally vomit right when I'm getting over a flu or some other kind of bug.) Once I'd started feeling better, I made a glass for my lady friend and encouraged her to drink in. within an hour we were both feeling great.

I have no doubt that I caught what she had from her, after days of caring for her. What I think makes this a good story is the same disease my friend was sick with for a week, I was sick with for about 3 hours, before I took the MMS and it took effect. It gave almost immediate relief from the symptoms of the flu like disease. I was actually sorry I didn't think of it earlier, because she suffered needlessly for a week almost, when a dose of MMS would have fixed her up in no time. I will not hesitate to use MMS again the next time I get sick, or to recommend it to anyone I care about in future as a first course of action.

Why we don't use this stuff in hospitals, I don't know. It's stupid. You don't need to believe anything you read, good or bad, about MMS, just find out where you can get it, and the next time you're sick, try it yourself.
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pfft, what? how is getting well in three hours from a disease that takes a week to run it's course a bad thing? Care to explain your flawed logic?

Not that I expect a reply from a signature link spammer. These kind of "people" are signed up to forums like this all over the internet. After they've spat our their insidious little attacks, or dumped their links to malware infected commercial websites, they retreat, seldom to ever return, at least not with the same user name. Nothing but bottom feeders.

Here's what the FDA really thinks of MMS, they've pegged it as quakery on wikipedia, and then exerted pressure on wikipedia such that the MMS page is now one of the very, very few wiki pages that can't be edited by everyone who uses the site.

Miracle Mineral Supplement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Go ahead, see how many other pages on wiki you can find with a big banner axcross the top saying it can't be edited by new and unregistered users.

Sorry to tell you, FDA, but although you have the big websites (amazon, wikipedia, abouthealth etc) in your pockets, you and your govt buddies don't have a strangle hold on the entire internet. Not yet, anyway. Forums like this tell the truth about MMS and other cures you try to keep quiet, and there is NOTHING you can do about it, even outlawing each forum one at a time won't work. You don't know how to internets, as anon might say.

They are such filth, such human refuse, to preside over such needless suffering and cover up cures just so their buddies can make even more money selling FDA rubberstamped poisons. What a disgraceful organisation the FDA is. Don't forget to pull it down too, when you demolish the Fed.

EDIT: Post I responded to has been deleted. I'm leaving this reply though.
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"Creating a new world without disease"

Do Vaccines help or harm?

The vaccination story takes much longer to tell than just one small chapter in a book. So I am not going to try to prove anything to you, but rather give you some important information to consider, very important.

The first thing you might check for yourself is the latest controversy now on TV at this date of 1/6/20011. Dr. Andrew Wakefield, MB, BS, FRCS, FRCPath, is an academic gastroenterologist; he is a completely conventional doctor being worked over by CNN trying to prove that he is a liar because he is saying autism is caused by vaccines. They are saying he faked the data. They have to say that, as there is no opposing data. CNN tries to appear unbiased, but they spend a minute or two on his actual data and then ten times as much time talking about how he has been accused of lying. CNN personnel are extremely unprofessional and irresponsible to claim he is lying when they have no proof.

The first thing you should notice is that if you go to the internet and read about vaccinations, you will find many learned people writing about it. You will notice that each of these people is saying that vaccination is absolutely a great thing. Doctor after doctor will tell you that vaccination has reduced the incidence of many infectious diseases. Just look at the extremely high percentage of infectious disease around 1900, they say, and now, after the advent of vaccination, those diseases have all dropped to tiny, almost insignificant percentages of what they had been. Although each of these people will confirm the tremendous value of vaccinations and talk about the scientific proof and the huge field of scientific evidence, there is in fact no scientific proof. Again there are all those missing scientific papers.

Measles as an Example

But let me help you check if for yourself. Take measles as an example. In 1900 there were 13 deaths for each 100,000 population. By 1963 there was less than 1 death per 100,000 population. With the proper chart, that can be made to look good for vaccination, but you may have guessed it, vaccination for measles was introduced in 1963. After it was introduced, the number of deaths continued to decline, but not significantly, and not at any accelerated speed. There are no graphs that prove there was a big reduction in measles deaths after the introduction of measles vaccines. The decrease in measles deaths matched the improved living conditions of the cities, the better nutrition, the improved trash collection and waste disposal. The exact same thing happened in England and Europe. Nor was it just measles -- all the infectious diseases have a similar graphs. The tremendous reduction in disease followed modern civilization in the improvement of living conditions and hygiene. No disease incidence graph shows any particular reduction in deaths after the introduction of its vaccine.

To illustrate this, let me give you a picture of New York in about 1900. Keep in mind that all cities were described the same way at that time. I quote Roman Bystrianyk in her article Historic Data Shows Vaccines Not Key in Declines of Death from Disease.

“Now imagine a world where workplaces had no health, safety, or minimum wage laws. It was a time where people put in 12 to 16 hours a day at the most tedious menial labor. Imagine bands of children roaming the streets out of control because their parents are laboring long days. Picture the city of New York surrounded not by suburbs, but by rings of smoldering garbage dumps and shantytowns. Imagine cities where hogs, horses, and dogs and their refuse were commonplace in the streets. Many infectious diseases were rampant throughout the world and in particular in the large cities. This is not a description of the third world, but was a large portion of America and other western cities only a century or so ago.”

The decline of disease in every case came from hundreds of societal improvements, such as:

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The invention of sewers
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Advancements and Education in Personal Hygiene
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Improved living conditions
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Improved working conditions
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Better garbage disposal
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Cleaning of refuse from the streets


The decline in incidence of each disease came before the advent of its vaccination, with the exception of smallpox. However, there is no proof that smallpox vaccinations helped. For years in England, hundreds died from smallpox vaccinations and only one or two from smallpox each year. Despite strict vaccination laws a hundred years ago, with thousands vaccinated, hundreds of thousands nevertheless died from smallpox. The doctors and drug companies would like you to think (and maybe even a few of them have convinced themselves) that vaccinations are responsible for the reduction in deaths. They produce statistics that would convince a master thief, but they simply cannot compete with the truth and facts.

Some True Disease Statistics

There is currently an epidemic of Type 2 diabetes in progress. One in 100 children have autism. Further:

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1 in 5 have asthma
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1 in 10 have dyslexia
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1 to 8 in 1,000 have epilepsy
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1 in 400 to 1 in 166 have cerebral palsy (2 different sources?)
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1 in 20 have attention-deficit disorder

The government/vaccine industry is going to carry on vaccinating, covering up, and making false claims of safety until every child has a vaccine-induced disease. So we of the Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing must do everything we can to stop this evil, and we will.

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To see more detail on vaccines, please read: The Vaccination Racket at THE VACCINATION HOAX. That article gives hundreds of pages of details and references on the evils of vaccinations and the terrible harm they are doing to our children.

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Also read The Vaccine War: a Forgotten History by Roman Bystrianyk at http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla...inal&Itemid=24.

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How Mercury destroys brain neurons - Autism? Alzheimers? YouTube - Brain Neuron Degeneration via Mercury
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Mercury is in most vaccines!!!
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Flu shot diabled Cheerleader - YouTube - Flu Shot Disabled Beautiful Cheerleader ( Dystonia Disorder )
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Bill Gates depopulation Video - YouTube - Bill Gates - Vaccines are for Depopulation - Jack Blood's Take...
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Vaccines are being used to depopulate!!!!!



You will find many references to prove the point. The facts are facts and only those doctors, governments and clinics who benefit in a big way from the money generated by vaccines are really pushing you to go ahead and vaccinate. Sorry friends, but these people recommend vaccination in the face of absolute truth against vaccines and only for money. Billions of dollars are made on vaccines each year by those who receive money for them, whereas those who are warning you against vaccines benefit in no way. They just want to save you and your children the pain that millions are already suffering. One group wants your money; the other group wants to save you suffering. It’s time you faced some facts, and if you don’t mind suffering, that’s OK with us, but you owe it to your children to study the issue. Don’t ask your children to suffer because you have a closed mind. Keep in mind that hundreds of thousands of people are lining their pockets with your money while a tiny few are trying to get the truth to you at their own expense.

My new E-Book, “Master Mineral Solution for the 3rd Millenium” will be available very soon!!!!

As always with love,

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(For more info. about joining the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing, contact us at g2church777@gmail.com)

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MMS for autoimmune and mercury chelation?

Hey All!
I just opened this thread...somehow I passed it over.

I've been really ill this past year chelating from mercury overload. Now I test positive markers rhumie doc is calling undiff connective tissue disease

I know chelation can make your immune system go haywire....weird things that came with it I hadn't taken too seriously, mostly b/c I was able to correct or move thru them pretty quickly.

But now I'm pretty wonked out physically from so much going on...and want a clean sweep that's still safe. Has anybody read any info on using MMS during chelation? or for an autoimmune condition like lupus? I have read its helped arthritis.

I'm sure I'm full of buggies from mercury affecting gut and cell health. I have read a good amount from Jim Humble, but not every word. I'm of course NOT taking any pharmaceuticals for this as they just cause more damage. Using mainly essential oils and herbs for help with pain.

I'm doing a lot of protocol but think this will help and be a tipping point for faster improvement. I just ordered a bottle of 'water treatment' as its called cause has indeed been banned.
I feel like my body has been an encyclopedia and experimental ground for gathering helpful information. Any hints or info hugely appreciated!!

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Wikipedia Lies

Wikipedia Lies

If you haven’t used Wikipedia (an online encyclopedia) lately, you might not know that anyone can write data into the information found there. Unfortunately that encourages many people to promote their own favorite phobias and hatreds that they have developed without evidence. In the case of MMS, it has always been without evidence because there is nothing that backs up the lies. There is no evidence anywhere showing that MMS does damage.

Another bad part about Wikipedia is that anyone can also erase anything that someone else writes. In this way Wikipedia encourages hundreds of demented and stupid psychopaths to push their ideas and beliefs on the rest of us. The psychopaths work in groups of at least 4 individuals.

· They watch and guard their writings and the minute anyone comes by and tries to write the facts, a psychopath immediately erases them and restores his or her own lies.

This is done on Wikipedia so that the lies remain in place and any posting of facts is erased within 10 minutes. We can’t compete with them as they seem to be willing to stay on the job 24 hours a day.

Thus, for almost two years, Wikipedia has erased all facts concerning MMS and added lies each time someone tried to tell the truth. Worse than that,

· Everywhere in Wikipedia where there is a mention of chlorine dioxide or sodium chlorite, or even sodium chlorate, they have included an additional lie about MMS.

Do you realize the implication of this? It means that probably thousands of people have continued to suffer and even die when MMS could have helped them, because these few demented psychopaths have continued to lie and to force their superstition on the rest of humanity. They do it without knowing the chemistry of MMS or even trying to learn it, and without being willing to look at what MMS is doing. They also do this same thing to many other non-medical disease treatments. They have decided that they know best for humanity and that you and everyone else don’t deserve to know what is out there. Or they can afford to do it because the pharmaceutical companies pay their salary and of course that is the most likely scenario.

Should I apologize for calling them psychopaths? There doesn't seem to be a nice word for them. If they were just doing this out of ignorance, I would find a nicer name, but paid or not, they do it out of malice and they are hurting people.

So let me explain what they have done concerning MMS. There isn’t room to repeat what they have written word for word, but I’ll give you an idea. If you want to read it, and I hope you will, you can go to Wikipedia and search the site for "Miracle Mineral Supplement".With that title for their article, they start off on the wrong foot -- that is not the correct name of MMS. It should say, "Master Mineral Solution".

Two Blatant Mistakes
Because they don't understand chemistry, those Wikipedia writers make 2 big mistakes.

Mistake #1

In the very first sentence, they say sodium chlorite is a toxic chemical. But the EPA does not consider sodium chlorite to be a toxic chemical. Further, the FDA has long approved it for use on food and in water purification and why would they authorize a toxic chemical to be used on food? Here is the reference:

21 C.F.R. 173.325 Acidified Sodium Chlorite solutions

You can put this into Google or any search engine. Most of the food you eat is treated with sodium chlorite before it arrives at your supermarket.

Mistake #2

They do not realize that people who use MMS do not ingest sodium chlorite. When sodium chlorite is mixed with citric acid, the citric acid destroys the sodium chlorite before it is taken into the body. This destruction of the chlorite is visible. You cannot mistake what you are taking.

· No one ingests sodium chlorite from taking MMS

I call this a "mistake" but when a person knows his writing is wrong it is really a lie.

The Wikipedia References are Smoke and Mirrors

The Wikipedia writers list 21 references to prove their points. But their references either prove my point or they prove nothing.

· References 1 and 3 are not available and thus prove nothing.

· Reference 2 is a scientific journal in French, but it only refers to chlorate, which is not a part of MMS, so this reference proves nothing.

· Reference 4 is a clinical report of testing animal tolerance for sodium chlorite, chlorine dioxide, and sodium chlorate. All data given proves my contention that MMS is OK to take by mouth. Read the report for yourself. Here it is:

http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en/doc...2009/11/wc5000

It didn’t hurt any of those rats used in the tests to ingest amounts even stronger than those used by people in real life.

· Reference #5 is a Health Canada report where they repeat everything said by the FDA. Neither the FDA nor Health Canada cited any evidence or tests. When I called to ask if they had followed up on the phone calls complaining about a stomach ache and low blood pressure, they said that no, they had not investigated those complaints.

Then they mislead you by stating that MMS is a 28% sodium chlorite solution and that it is a dangerous solution that can cause all kinds of terrible damage. Well, yes, didn't we learn that in freshman high school chemistry: “Any chemical in the world is poisonous in large amounts”?

The lie is that you take a 28% solution of chlorine dioxide when in fact you take a 0.00004% solution. That is 700,000 time less than what they are trying to confuse you into believing.

They want you to believe that MMS is 28% when ingested when it is actually 0.00004%. Why would they try to spread such a lie? Well, for every cancer patient they can scare into not taking MMS, the cancer industry gains $800,000.

To learn about the MMS 0.00004% strength doses, please look at the instructions for MMS on my Web Site jimhumble.biz, under MMS protocols.

Stomach Ache and Low Blood Pressure?

The Wikipedia writers talk about reduced blood pressure, nausea and diarrhea mentioned by the FDA and Health Canada. But these two agencies didn’t investigate the complaints of low blood pressure or stomach ache and they have never given any other evidence against MMS.


Fake References Again

The Wikipedia writers' references again prove nothing.

· Reference #14 merely cites an article written by a 15-year-old boy who does not believe in a ‘cure all’. So that reference doesn’t apply to MMS in any way.

· Reference #15 is just another announcement by the Food Standard Agency in Canada against using MMS, but they offer no evidence.



· Reference #16 again alerts us to the terrible danger, but they offer no tests or chemical theory or any other kind of data to back up their announcement. It’s just “Warning: don’t take MMS.”

· Reference #7 is even dumber. It says MMS is a 28% mixture (it is not); then it says the mixture of sodium chlorite and an acid produces chlorine dioxide (this is true); and then it cleverly says, “Which is an industrial bleach.”

Well, vinegar is an industrial acid, and salt has hundreds of industrial uses. In doing their best to make MMS sound bad, they fail to mention that MMS, like salt and vinegar, is used in mixtures thousands of times weaker than the industrial applications.My reference again is my website jimhumble.biz. The instructions prove the doses are very weak.

Moving Along in their Fakery

The Wikipedia writers then make the statement that: “reliable scientific evidence” supports only dangers from use of MMS. They say that any claims of benefit come only from anecdotal reports and from Jim Humble’s book.

· They don’t mention that those anecdotal reports are in the hundreds of thousands.

Any real scientist would know that this many anecdotal reports constitute valuable evidence. And of course they offer no examples of their “reliable scientific evidence.” There is, in fact, no “reliable scientific evidence” proving that MMS is dangerous.



· MMS is only dangerous in large quantities and so is table salt and every other chemical on Earth.

The rest of the Wikipedia article seeks to mislead you in every line. They like to throw in a few statements from some impressive-sounding authorities; e.g., that according to the EPA, neurodevelopment and reproductive damage could result from small doses of chlorine dioxide. They say “could” but offer no evidence that MMS could cause such damage. That's because there isn't any evidence of such damage ever happening.

· Reference # 6 tells of renal failure from extreme overdose, but fails to mention that there was no death, and in the last 100 years, no death has ever been recorded that shows renal failure from an overdose of chlorine dioxide.

That particular overdose was not due to MMS. It was due to someone trying to commit suicide by taking 10 grams of sodium chlorite, but the suicide was a failure.

· Reference #9 is an FDA letter sent to Jenine M. Cohoon of Provo, UT, warning her that she must stop selling MMS and other herbs. No evidence is given that is relevant to the data about MMS in Wikipedia. It is just a warning letter tossed in by the Wikipedia writers to impress you, and as long as you don’t read it, it looks like a legitimate reference.

· Reference #21 links to a study at Osha.gov. concerning chlorine dioxide and mostly rats. If you want to take the time to read it, you will see that is shows MMS is very safe to take. Keep in mind that the intensive MMS Protocol 1000 recommends 2 mg/kg per day for a 70 kg (154 lbs.) man. That’s less than was given to the rats (per their weight) and the rats were unaffected by it.

So as I have already said, these references all either prove nothing or they prove my contention that MMS is safe to take. Just remember, as with table salt, you can take too much of it. But it is plenty safe in its recommended doses.

Note: Just 2 gallons of water can kill a person. Dosage is the key.

If you want governmental proof that MMS is safe to take, go to: Occupational Safety and Health Guideline for Chlorine Dioxide.

Of course the government won’t refer to it, but there it is. I suppose they will be removing it from the internet soon. It’s only used as a reference here because the Wikipedia writers didn’t realize it proves my statement that MMS is safe. They didn’t take time to read it, or they thought you would be confused.

There is a lot more to tell about this Wikipedia MMS Article, as I have covered only some of the lies. There is no room here in the newsletter but I am covering all the lies on a website, as I feel that it will give you a better idea of how MMS works and also a better idea of how the psychopaths lie. It will be on my site “MMS world court,” available for viewing in about a week.

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Hello Jim and team, hope all is going well for you out there in Dom/republic.
I'm still enjoying the benefits of mms, and take every opportunity to pass the word on to others.
Anyone who doubts what you say about the persecution by the official (persecuters) FDA etc: should be advised to 'google' Greg Paton, and his totally outrageous persecution re: his Cancema product.

Many thanks again Jim for all your work.

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Jim Humble’s New Book is available!

Follow the amazing journey of MMS, “Master Mineral Solution”, formerly known as “Miracle Mineral Supplement”. This new book of Jim’s is the continuing story of how MMS is changing the World. The Master Mineral solution of the 3rd Millennium picks up where Jim’s first book ended, until the present.

Recently, Jim has returned from Africa where he successfully treated more than 800 HIV/AIDS cases. Last year he conducted 9 lectures in Europe, a 5-day seminar in Germany and six 10-day seminars in the Dominican Republic, all teaching the MMS protocols for healing most of mankind’s diseases. The Genesis II Church of Health and Healing now uses the MMS solution as its Cleansing Water in the Church Sacraments. This new MMS book can save your life or that of a loved one and will most likely do so sometime within the next 5 years.

This book has 268 pages and 30 chapters. Jim has updated all the MMS topics that were in the first book.

Here are some of the topics covered in this new book:

· Safety precautions;

· What MMS is;

· Many new protocols for using MMS correctly;

· Protocols for many diseases;

· How to tell if MMS is working;

· MMS2; MMS3;

· Healing animals with MMS;

· Making MMS in your kitchen;

· A chemical explanation for laymen and scientists;

· Oxidizers and how oxidation destroys pathogens;

· MMS, ARVs, and vaccines;

· Methods of using MMS other than oral;

· The Mexican story, South African story, and Malawi story;

· The Genesis II Church of Health and Healing and our 180 Ministers of Health in 47 countries;

· MMS and drugs;

· And buying, using and teaching others to use MMS.

Note: If you know the information in this book, you can treat more diseases successfully than any medical doctor, and more importantly you can save lives, perhaps your own!

Go to: miraclemineral.org to purchase the EBook, “Master Mineral Solution of the 3rd Millennium”. Tell your family and friends! This book contains a lot of VERY important information that the world needs.

Please, help us get this EBook to as many people as possible!!!

Note: The hard back copy of Jim’s new book will be available in a few months.

“I’m really excited above the information in this book getting into the WHOLE world! There are so many important findings, testimonies, new protocols etc. The MMS movement is growing daily worldwide. We now have 180 Health Ministers in 46 countries worldwide teaching others to teach others!” Now you’re talking!!!!

As always with love,

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Here is a very interesting letter from a person using MMS to treat autism, from the latest newsletter.

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We have some more wonderful news about MMS & Autism!


Here is a letter I received from Kerri working with children with autism. I thought you’d like to read it.


“Well, the past 3 months I have been a busy girl. We visited my good friend Jim Humble the middle of February which was a dream come true. At that time I had about 130+ kids on MMS. Afterwards, we had a conference in Puerto Rico on the biomedical approaches used in recovering children from autism. Directly from Puerto Rico I went to Venezuela where everybody was very excited about MMS and the possibilities of recovering from autism with only pennies a day. While in Venezuela I was able to teach 4 doctors the protocols that I use in my clinic, and share my presentation on the use of MMS for Autism Spectrum Disorders at a conference which 750 people attended. It was a very exciting time to say the least! In the days after the conference I was able to consult 176 families on individual biomedical protocols for their children, including MMS.

Since the conference, there has been much more interest in MMS in Latin America. In particular, I have many families who I help in Spain. I guess word got out, and one of the 2 doctors treating autism in Spain contacted me and asked me to share my protocol with her. The good news is that she is going to use it. Her idea is to apply it as an antifungal for Candida. However, MMS knows no boundaries and will kill all other pathogens at the same time. So, quite frankly, it is of little consequence what she believes she is doing with it, she will be doing far more than she even knows. Combining MMS with diet and hopefully only a few supplements, this doctor should be able to recover some of her kids. Financially speaking, when doctors like her start seeing results they will in turn get more patients and more patients mean more money. So, results coupled with money are a win win situation, and in turn humanity wins as we all grow healthier.

I hope to do a free conference in Spain before year’s end about the biomedical approach to recovering children with autism and autism spectrum disorders. I know that another doctor is using MMS in Italy. Maybe Europe will lead the way to getting MMS into the mainstream biomedical treatments and then the USA will follow. The doctors treating children in the USA with autism are under close watch by the FDA. Anything too "alternative" could cost someone their license. And these people have their own families to feed. So, they have to walk a very fine line. It is sad to see. Because what these special doctors want for their patients with autism whom they are trying to heal is the fastest recovery possible. And if it could be fast and inexpensive these doctors would be happy as well. Unfortunately they have such strict guidelines that it makes doing what they do difficult. Hopefully we could do a double blind study using MMS and autism. I think it would be easy to measure the difference.

On a practical note, many of the parents who have their children on MMS take MMS themselves, frequently out of a necessity to heal some immune issues. They will ask me "Can I take MMS too? I have X". I always refer to a protocol from Jim's course, and without fail within the first week I receive an email with some kind of miraculous story as to how "my fibromyalgia went away" "my husband's sense of smell came back" "my shingles went away" "my Mother's diabetes is under control". These and more stories have come from the families of a child with autism. It goes without saying that the affected child is doing much better and having all sorts of firsts of his/her own.

At minimum there are 400+ children on the Autism Spectrum improving steadily, thanks to the help of MMS. These are in addition to all of the other children that these doctors are seeing and treating with MMS. The total including family members could be easily above 1000. The future is bright now that many more healers/doctors have the information on MMS and the knowledge of how to use it. I believe that people like these who see many, many children are an important link that will bridge the gap between "alternative" medicine and "allopathic" medicine, finally bringing MMS to the mainstream. I hope that we have in our hands the missing piece of the autism puzzle, because it sure seems to look that way. Two more children in March lost their diagnosis from autism, which makes a total of 5 children to lose their diagnosis since I began recommending MMS in August of 2010. Not all have recovered. But all are better than they were, and that is a great place to start.

As for now, I receive over 100 emails a day from people using my protocol for MMS. Sometimes we increase the dose, decrease or stay the same. We do protocols that other families and I have developed that add enemas and other elements of timing for the oral administration. The newest protocol that is getting lots of attention is the 72/2. It is a dose of MMS every 2 hours for 72 hours without resting in the night time. So, one parent wakes up every two hours and administers a dose of MMS. We have seen remarkable improvements with the 72/2. Another new protocol is the 12/2. It is taking MMS for 12 days straight then resting 2 days. This way the pathogens living in the gut will expose themselves during the two day rest, and then we hit them with another 12 days of MMS. Using this method we gradually extinguish all pathogens until none remain. When we heal the gut we cure the autism. The MMS enemas have also led to marked improvements for children on the spectrum. The families doing enemas are seeing more language and in general having less conduct issues and a lessening of stereotypical behaviors. When trying these new protocols or any MMS protocols it is a good thing to work in a team situation. Someone like myself, for example or another person who has used MMS knows when and how to avoid Herxheimer's (die-off) reactions and what they look like. Many times the road to recovery is paved with discomfort, but in the end, it will have all been worth it. Autism means that your child has virus, bacteria, Candida, inflammation, heavy metals and food allergies. Allopathically speaking, you would have to take a drug store to kill all these pathogens, but will MMS, all you need is a little drop of what my husband calls "holy water" and recovery is on its way.

I think to myself that MMS and autism recovery are in their infancy together and wonder where we will be in 25 years. Will we finally, openly acknowledge what is causing the autism epidemic and stop it? Will we all use MMS to cure it? Will we all be hiding our rations of MMS from the authorities who say that we cannot use MMS? The last thought gives me the chills, a harmless oxidizer, yet at the same time potent enough to cure autism? It's possible to think that it might be held out of a mother's reach when she needs to heal her child from this devastation. Let's try not to let this happen, and get everyone we know on MMS. Healing humanity begins with me and begins with you. We can do it. But we need to do it together”.

Best wishes,

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Thanks for posting this letter jibbguy I was about to do it but got busy with other things. Good read.


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Kill Order...

Letter from Jim

"I have just learned from a highly reliable source that the FBI now has a kill order on Jim Humble. That’s me. I wish I could say that the Government source isn’t very reliable, but this source has proven to be very reliable up to this time. Several plans were to be considered including having me invited to a country in Asia and there I would have an accident. The other possibility was that I could have an accident here in the Dominican Republic, but that would be a less likely plan. But remember, when Obama says kill, that's what they do. It doesn't matter if they are guilty or not.

Why not? They kidnapped my friend, Greg Caton, from Ecuador and brought him back to prison after Ecuador had given him political asylum. It was in the newspaper about a year ago. Check it out for yourself. Search for "Greg Canton Kidnapped" in Google search. I have another friend in prison for healing people and another one, with his legs blown off for healing people. There is a list of 160 scientists who have made inventions that would aid mankind in one way or another who have died violent deaths in the past 20 years. That isn’t my idea. Check it out on the internet. I don’t care if you believe in conspiracy theories or not; just be willing to read. It’s all there.

The reason I am telling you this is, so that when I come up missing or come up dead you will know what has really happened. And of course, you probably already know that should my death occur, all my books and other materials on MMS become public domain. That is already written into my copyright. Hopefully then, people who knew me or of me will print my books, mainly the last one, and hand them out wholesale until everyone on the planet has one.

I know that there are many of you that are not accustomed to this sort of thing, but on the other hand I have gotten letters from time to time that show that there are many people who do know the score. And the score is, that there are people in this world who are beginning to lose money because of MMS. That, of course is, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, clinics, doctors, and a host of related industries. They aren’t too worried about a few million dollars of losses now, but they are looking at the huge loss that will soon be happening when MMS becomes popular. We all know that, “the love of money”, is one of the main reasons for the world’s problems.

Of course, it is a little late for them to do anything now with more than 8 million people having used MMS and with thousands of web sites and with thousands of MMS success stories posted all over the world. But still, if they could say I disappeared and then if they put some poisoned MMS out without me to oppose them they might make some of their lies stick. Remember, for every cancer patient that they convince that MMS doesn’t work they make $800,000 dollars for the cancer industry. A similar story exists for malaria the worst disease of mankind and many other diseases.

Our present ongoing seminar this week: I wish you could meet the people here for this seminar. They are quite similar to the other seminar people over the last year. Most have said to me, “I just came because I had to come.” You got to understand that. All of us are a part of a group that agreed to come here for the third millennium millions of years ago. We came to save Earth. When I mention it, almost every one of them said, “You are right. I knew it. I just needed someone to mention it.” We all want to save Earth. Come and join us. And listen, if you can’t get the money, let us know. We’ll try to help you. Come and become a minister in our non-religious church. The more people that are trained, the quicker we can help this world become, “a world without disease”.

My New Book Available For Download

Please go to: Miracle Mineral to purchase the eBook, Master Mineral Solution of the 3rd Millennium. Tell your family and friends! It contains a lot of very important information that people need. Please, help us get this eBook to as many people as possible!!! The print version will be available in a few weeks and I will notify you in another newsletter.

I’m really excited about the information in this book getting to the whole world! There are so many important findings, testimonies, new protocols etc. The MMS movement is growing daily worldwide. We now have 214 Health Ministers in 49 countries teaching others to teach others!

As always with love,

Bishop Jim Humble"



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Hi Blackchisel, I like the way you keep spreading the word.
Things seem to be going ok with MMS, but lke Jim says we have to expect Big-phama to continue the attacks, dirty tricks etc:
he mentions Greg Caton in the letter, now for anyone who thinks Jim may be going over the top on this subject, I suggest they start with Greg's story. It's quite recent and full off good information (everything can be verified).
Ofcourse Greg was/and is involved with 'black salve' something else that cures, does what it says, and is therefore a threat, answer close it down!
Let us be sure it does not happen with mms.

regards, Bren.
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Old 05-18-2011, 04:03 PM
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I'm really liking the information in this post. It is better to read this in a forum I trust (like this one) than to find random web pages saying how great it is. Plus with all the negative media on this it really makes one skeptical when trying to decide to take the plunge.

So I have some questions I hope you good people can help me with.

1, What does it taske like?
2, How much can I expect to pay for this?
3, How much does a typical bottle last?
4, Where do you guys/gals get your supply?

Thank you for your advice on this forum. It's greatly appreciated by all who read it!!!
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Old 05-18-2011, 05:24 PM
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It tastes kind of bleachy, or like heavily chlorinated water. Mixing it with apple juice without any vitamin C in it makes a big difference. Alternatively, you can just chase it with something you like the taste of. I paid about $25 for about a year's supply. One small bottle of MMS and a packet of the citric activator which you mix as needed. Do a search for MMS and you'll find lots of suppliers. Choose the cheapest or whichever one appeals to you the most. There will be loose stools. Especially if you increase your dosage too fast or make a mistake and put too many drops in. I recommend dumping it out and starting over if you accidentally get too many drops. It's cheap.
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