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Old 10-30-2009, 01:57 PM
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Recently at a Project Camelot show in Belgium, there was a German guy who spoke there about MMS... Havn't seen that one posted there yet (i watched the live cam at the time, but didn't catch his name or site).

My own "Clinical Trials" with MMS are going quite well. I changed to using capsules because one day i was violently sick for about 12 hours and since then the taste is too much to contemplate What i vomited that day was scary: Some of it was a black mass of who-knows-what, lol. It freaked me out. I cut back after that and went to the "more often / fewer drops" approach that Jim describes on his site as the "new and improved method"... Also using the "take a 2-day break after 2 weeks" advice to replenish vitamins and minerals, and intestinal "good" flora.

When using the capsules, make sure they remain dry (put cotton balls in the container or they could soon stick together and be worthless quickly if you live in a humid climate), and pop them into your mouth & swallow them as soon as you make them up (they soften and break quickly). They are not sold in most pharmacies, and may have to be ordered... Many chain drug stores won't carry them at all, the best bet is to go to an small "old school" pharmacy that are often located in medical arts office buildings, where they still compound medicines. I got 500 type 0's for $16 .

So far i have lost several warts or smooth-skin growths on my back, they just shrank away over a couple weeks, and the psoriasis i've had for years has been just about licked and has gone down to near unnoticed levels, some lessening can be seen every day. Using direct application to the skin helped there too. Havn't tried the bath method yet, that's next.

I've also noticed that an allergy i had to something that grows in the mangrove's has apparently gone away too... Whenever the wind blew from a certain direction from the mangrove swamps, i used to sneeze and water for an hour or two, but not now.

MMS appears to be a winner, at least for me
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Very good news I still wonder what could case your stomach to react so violently and color of discharge Did you ever had ulcers?


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I'm up to 6 drops after 2 days, seems harder to schedual things around my timetable then I thought. Not meny side effects, mainly stomach queezyness and flatulance. And the taste ? !#@!$!@%!@%)!$*^)^@) MM MM Good

Fist thing I do notice, my mouth is cleaner. I swiril and gargle before swallowing, and there is a definatle positive effect on cleanlyness there.

Oh ya, i don't have a 10 % solution of vinigar, so I'm using a 5 % solution, and letting it rest for 6 minutes instead of 3 minutes, to compensate.


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@Black: Nope, always had a strong stomach. There have been similar anecdotes from people, Jim says that is the result of a major killing off of pathogens or some kind; although why it would manifest itself in the stomach and not the G.I. tract (which it also did that day lol), i dunno either. My dose that day was 12 drops and i had that much previously without the bad reaction.

BTW: I heard in the Belgium PC talk that if someone does have a history of ulcers, DO NOT use the citric acid for the actifier. Use the lemon juice or apple cider vinegar. The citric acid could weaken stomach walls over time if yer sensitive to it.

The thing about vitiman C is that natural C is not as bad in reaction to the MMS as the manufactured C that is added to many drinks... He says if your juice does have some natural vitamin C (like lemon or lime juice) then just use 1 more drop of MMS.
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@Black: Nope, always had a strong stomach. There have been similar anecdotes from people, Jim says that is the result of a major killing off of pathogens or some kind; although why it would manifest itself in the stomach and not the G.I. tract (which it also did that day lol), i dunno either. My dose that day was 12 drops and i had that much previously without the bad reaction. Logical, but would love to hear JH opinion on this.

BTW: I heard in the Belgium PC talk that if someone does have a history of ulcers, DO NOT use the citric acid for the actifier. Use the lemon juice or apple cider vinegar. The citric acid could weaken stomach walls over time if yer sensitive to it. Makes perfect sense

The thing about vitamin C is that natural C is not as bad in reaction to the MMS as the manufactured C that is added to many drinks... He says if your juice does have some natural vitamin C (like lemon or lime juice) then just use 1 more drop of MMS.
I agree with that. I always look for pure juices without added vitamins, like apple or prune. Label may look confusing, since there is always vitamin C present, but it's natural. They usually advertise any additives.

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Bob, when I first started to use MMS I would also swirl and gargle before swallowing. However, I figured that it is probably better to spit out the mouth wash than to have all the killed pathogens pass through the entire digestive system. Your garbage men won't have to work as hard taking out the other trash.

Rinse out your mouth and spit, then you can make some fesh and swallow that. Just a suggestion.
I agree with your statement. I would treat mouth separately and use a "fresh" dose internally
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I just had a pleasure to get in touch with Jim Humble. I was able to clarify that MMS2 is no better than MMS1 and they both work a bit different. MMS1 should be used as a primary and combined with MMS2 as needed.
Also found out that one Canadian (BC) supplier of MMS1 cannot sell to Canadian customers anymore, due to the recent "decision" made by Health Canada, that MMS is a drug!


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There is a Newsletter #7 @ Jim's site. Very good reading!


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That's great info, and as soon as MMS' effectiveness becomes well-known, there is no question in my mind that it will become illegal to sell in the U.S. also. It's too effective, it would cost Big Pharma billions in profits.

These ..um.. "people" at the FDA are so corrupt and evil at heart, they will stop at nothing. Soon it will be illegal to sell ANY herbal or alternative medicine (as this recent bogus "Medical State of Emergency" in the U.S. has shown). they are indeed becoming very bold.

What about this product for "shock cleaning" swimming pools that is supposed to be sodium chlorite, does anyone know anything about that? I bet it would be cheap, and a 5-gal container would last for 20 years; or be enough to cure hundreds of thousands of people. NOW would be the time to buy some.
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What about this product for "shock cleaning" swimming pools that is supposed to be sodium chlorite, does anyone know anything about that? I bet it would be cheap, and a 5-gal container would last for 20 years; or be enough to cure hundreds of thousands of people. NOW would be the time to buy some.
As long as it says "sodium chlorite", that's exactly what is needed. There is another shock cleanser - calcium hypochlorite. It's sold in 1lb plastc bag under the name "shock it" @ $5. This is MMS2.


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Also found out that one Canadian (BC) supplier of MMS1 cannot sell to Canadian customers anymore, due to the recent "decision" made by Health Canada, that MMS is a drug!


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MMS Newsletter #8

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There is a "fresh" Newsletter 8 posted @ Jim Humble site.


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How to make NaClO (sodium chlorite)

Step 1

Pour 3 quarts of water into a wide-mouthed, heatproof glass jar or glass beaker and heat to just under boiling.

Step 2

Add the 1/2 cup of salt to the water; continue heating the mixture until the salt is completely dissolved. Remove from heat when the salt is dissolved.

Step 3

Sharpen both ends of the pencils until you have at least 1 inch of exposed lead on both ends.

Step 4

Attach the wires to one end of each pencil with the alligator clip. Make sure the clip is only gripping lead.

Step 5

Tape the cardboard to the mouth of the glass jar or beaker.

Step 6

Punch holes in the cardboard an inch in from the sides of the jar. Insert the ends of the pencils without the alligator clips into the holes and push into the jar until the exposed lead is submerged in the salt/water mixture.

Step 7

Attach one alligator clip to the negative terminal and the other alligator clip to the positive terminal of the battery or the solar panel. This provides the electrolysis which turns the NaCl to NaclO2. Wait at least 16 hours before disconnecting the electrolysis.

Step 8

Disconnect the alligator clips from both the battery or solar panel and the pencils. Remove the pencils and cardboard from the glass jars.

Step 9

Line the funnel with a coffee filter and place in the plastic container. Pour the salt/water mix through the coffer filter-lined funnel. The sodium chlorite will be caught by the coffee filter.

Step 10

Remove the coffee filter from the funnel and gently place on a wire drying rack with the side that had the salt/water mix poured on it up.

Step 11

As the coffee filter drys, sodium chlorite crystals form. You can gently scrape the crystals from the coffee filter into a storage container.



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I've been using MMS1 on and off for the last 6 months or so and am amazed at what it can do - GREAT STUFF! I bought Jim's second book right away and it's well worth it - tells how to make your own in that one. I bought enough for about $30 to make enough MMS for 7 years!
BTW unless something has changed Jim Humble is talking about MMS2 as being calcium hypochlorite and that is not the same as sodium chlorite - which is the basis of MMS1. MMS1 becomes chlorine dioxide when mixed with lemon juice or the other things he suggests. At least chemically they are two different animals. Personally I found quality sodium chlorite so cheap that I can't imagine wanting to make that myself. For less than a $100 you could about have a lifetime supply of MMS1. Until today I was not aware of the MMS2 as I had not been on his site since last summer. Having read up a bit on the MMS2 I'm not quite as sure I feel as safe about it as MMS1. I have a few concerns about it but I assume it is better to get rid of a serious disease with it than to allow it to continue unchecked. I'm glad to hear what Jim had to say about MMS1 vs. MMS2 - thanks for that info Vtech.

Jim is a true hero and I was recently able to give this info to an American who is doing missionary work in Africa and has been fighting with Malaria for a long while. I don't have any direct contact with him since giving this info to him but I'll bet he's done with the Malaria problem now.
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I've been using MMS1 on and off for the last 6 months or so and am amazed at what it can do - GREAT STUFF! I bought Jim's second book right away and it's well worth it - tells how to make your own in that one. I bought enough for about $30 to make enough MMS for 7 years!
BTW unless something has changed Jim Humble is talking about MMS2 as being calcium hypochlorite and that is not the same as sodium chlorite - which is the basis of MMS1. MMS1 becomes chlorine dioxide when mixed with lemon juice or the other things he suggests. At least chemically they are two different animals. Personally I found quality sodium chlorite so cheap that I can't imagine wanting to make that myself. Unless one day someone will ban - just as a recent incident with BC based supplier and we might not have other choice. Believe it or not, I got my last supply from US. Just couldn't find any around. I have plenty of MMS2 but I wouldn't be able to get in the local stores at this time.. For less than a $100 you could about have a lifetime supply of MMS1. Until today I was not aware of the MMS2 as I had not been on his site since last summer. Having read up a bit on the MMS2 I'm not quite as sure I feel as safe about it as MMS1. I have tried both, not being sick or anything, just pure science. No complains, side effects or any reaction. I have a few concerns about it but I assume it is better to get rid of a serious disease with it than to allow it to continue unchecked. I'm glad to hear what Jim had to say about MMS1 vs. MMS2 - thanks for that info Vtech.

Jim is a true hero and I was recently able to give this info to an American who is doing missionary work in Africa and has been fighting with Malaria for a long while. I don't have any direct contact with him since giving this info to him but I'll bet he's done with the Malaria problem now.
From my recent (last couple of weeks) conversation, number of cured AIDS cases just by him is over 700. It is very important to train people how to use it and how to help those in need. This is part of Jim's busy schedule.

There is also another thread and Jim's vision. I started (tried to) new topic in General Discussion. This is Beloved, idea of teaching and raising new generation which will have a great impact on humanity. Long term goal and might sound difficult at first. I have several emails from people interested in this idea. I would like to invite them to this forum (not this thread). Jim will visit as his schedule permits.


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From my recent (last couple of weeks) conversation, number of cured AIDS cases just by him is over 700. It is very important to train people how to use it and how to help those in need. This is part of Jim's busy schedule.

There is also another thread and Jim's vision. I started (tried to) new topic in General Discussion. This is Beloved, idea of teaching and raising new generation which will have a great impact on humanity. Long term goal and might sound difficult at first. I have several emails from people interested in this idea. I would like to invite them to this forum (not this thread). Jim will visit as his schedule permits.


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That's awesome - he is really doing amazing work. I read that Bill Gates was very interested in helping stop the toll that Malaria takes yet he would not have anything to do with Jim's work 'because it isn't FDA approved' Then I just saw a few days ago that Gates is pledging $10 billion over the next ten years to accelerate global vaccine efforts.
After seeing that I lost all hope for Gates - he's lost IMO. Vaccines are a big part of health problems and not the solution. MMS is a solution that can save millions and it's being supressed. Cheers to Jim for having the courage to put it out there.

I'm not clear if you have started a message thread or were trying to in General discussion. I didn't see it but if it's there could you post the link?
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That's awesome - he is really doing amazing work. I read that Bill Gates was very interested in helping stop the toll that Malaria takes yet he would not have anything to do with Jim's work 'because it isn't FDA approved' Then I just saw a few days ago that Gates is pledging $10 billion over the next ten years to accelerate global vaccine efforts.
After seeing that I lost all hope for Gates - he's lost IMO. Vaccines are a big part of health problems and not the solution. MMS is a solution that can save millions and it's being supressed. Cheers to Jim for having the courage to put it out there.

I'm not clear if you have started a message thread or were trying to in General discussion. I didn't see it but if it's there could you post the link?
How World Peace Can Be Achieved

From purely "business" side of view, there in no profit in curing people vs. huge profit in giving them hope. How easy is to blame circumstances for a failure. I remember old saying in one of the hospitals I was working at the time - "surgery was a great success but patient wasn't strong enough and didn't survive".
You can make fortune giving patient few percent of hope, postponing death or "mute" pain, while curing illness for the cost of fast food meal won't bring enough profit to get all windows washed in those futuristic corporate buildings so those working inside may be able to see the World as is, not through their accounts.
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I have no idea how this thread has escaped my attention for almost a year!

Just read the entire thing!

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Just read the entire thing!

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Hi Blackchisel, keep putting the good news out, Jim Humble is surely one of the best, and deserves all the publicity we can give too his amazing disscovery.
That info: on bill gates pumping money into the failed 'big phama' policies just does not add-up. Remember Jim says he tried all ways to interest Gates, and was ignored! makes you wonder why?
Anyway, any UK folks reading this? if you know of anywhere to purchase the 'sodium chlorite' raw material i'd be pleased to hear from you.

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Hi Blackchisel, keep putting the good news out, Jim Humble is surely one of the best, and deserves all the publicity we can give too his amazing disscovery.
That info: on bill gates pumping money into the failed 'big phama' policies just does not add-up. Remember Jim says he tried all ways to interest Gates, and was ignored! makes you wonder why?
Anyway, any UK folks reading this? if you know of anywhere to purchase the 'sodium chlorite' raw material i'd be pleased to hear from you.

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Hi Bren,
I'm aware of one UK supplier but this is already prepared solution (2oz MMS + 2 oz citric acid) for 25 BP + shipping. General agreement was to keep MMS solution kit under $20 + shipping. I see some suppliers charging much more than that. This may depend on availability and local price of a raw product.
Depending of the amount you're planning to get, there is a supplier in Canada which will ship it to you. Price for 1lb of MMS, 1lb citric acid, 2 mixing bottles and instructions is $98.60 with shipping Canada/US included. Such amount will be enough to make 34oz of 28% of MMS solution. This is so far best deal I know of.
You can also get raw chlorite only
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* 10 pounds of 80% sodium chlorite powder (makes 340 oz or 10 liters) of 28% solution) - $300.00

* 5 pounds of 80% sodium chlorite powder (makes 170 ozs or 5 liters) of 28% solution).-$200.00

*2 pounds of 80% sdium chlorite powder (makes 68 ozs or 2 litres of 28% solution)-$125.00

*1 pound of sodium chlorite powder (makes 34 ozs or 1 liter of 28% solution)-$75.00
When you buy solution in 2oz bottles they will cost you from $20 - 50 plus shipping.
You can do the math . PM me and I'll give you their contact info.

I just checked another British site but my antivirus warned me of infection threat and blocked the access. I found this couple of times, including one website referred by Jim. I notified site owner and he removed the threat with his webmaster. We may see more of those "infections" designed to serve certain purpose. They're not planted by the hosts of those sites, obviously.


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Hi again Blackchisel, thanks for the quick reply. And good info:
I am using some I got ready mixed here in UK, just annoys me I can't get the raw mats: just to give me a little extra control of the process.
I would appreciate the Canada address, though mail charge even on 1LB will bump the cost up, but then, if you really believe in Jim H, then the cost is really peanuts. Now then what's this PM me? Step back in amazement!
There's a lot about the net i'm not famillier with.

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Hi again Blackchisel, thanks for the quick reply. And good info:
I am using some I got ready mixed here in UK, just annoys me I can't get the raw mats: just to give me a little extra control of the process.
I would appreciate the Canada address, though mail charge even on 1LB will bump the cost up, but then, if you really believe in Jim H, then the cost is really peanuts. Now then what's this PM me? Step back in amazement!
There's a lot about the net i'm not famillier with.

Regards, Bren. Ps like General D's quote.
No problem, when you click on my avatar you'll have a menu and option of sending private mail to me, through the forum. I can do the same and in the right upper corner you'll se that you've got PM. Click on and it will take you to your inbox.


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Old 02-10-2010, 01:49 AM
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Great info gang!!
I've been using MMS off and on for over two years and haven't had chronic bronchitis, mostly annual - the whole time and haven't been sick either!! That's with bike riding in the cold winter time.

I ordered my MMS from MMS - Miracle Mineral Supplements - Holistic Supplements - MMSDR.com
the dr is for Dennis Richard who visited Jim H for a month or so years ago. They have question/advice calls you can listen to or call in on and even have had some retired doctors giving the real story and the what the 'chlorite' will do for situations, people call in with.
I also learned that the MMS stays active for an hour in the body. Meaning that you can take smaller doses, 4 - 5 drops, hourly and that almost tastes like some 'tap water' to me. No stomach probs at that dose either. Also holding your nose while you drink the MMS cuts the taste sensation dramatically and combined w/the lower dose, you're set.
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