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Old 10-24-2007, 12:47 AM
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adam: what salt you recommend?


i've been enjoying your posts, mr. ant, & even got myself on the sea salt cleanse -- in fact, i'm on my 2nd day as we speak

now my question is: what are the reasons you do not recommend himalaya crystal salt or real salt from utah?
i'm intrigued

i've been making sole with himalaya crystal ever since the book on water & salt by hendel & ferreira came out in english (http://www.americanbluegreen.com/)
it seems that i got indoctrinated by them & this may, or may not, be the right time to make some changes

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Old 10-24-2007, 01:43 AM
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my motivation


it seems that 2 main reasons led me to experiment with the sea salt cleanse:
[1] the weather is nice, the moon is waxing beautifully: the right environment for an autumn cleanse after spending the summer enjoying so much variety & quality of fruits from around the world, raw pasture eggs, scharffen berger, cod liver oil, etc. etc.

[2] i tend to think that washing the body in water & salt (plus a few juicy low-sweet fruits) can only enhance my experience of my paths modules -- we'll see

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Old 10-24-2007, 04:17 PM
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bora, if i remember correctly, himalayan salt is a land based salt. it does have a lot of benefits to it, but also is loaded with heavy metals, and inland contamination via acid rains, run-off, and others. it is not optimal.
the same goes for Real Salt... i have a copy of their mineral analysis laying around here somewhere.

inland salts are not energized the same(sunlight), are not free floating and "spun" like sea salts, and sea salts have a much more perfect balance for the human body. inland salts do have their purposes, but it is not really for internal human consumption. if it is all you have, it is still 100 times better than epsom salts, table salt, and any other processed salts.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:07 AM
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Bryan,

Could you please post a link of where to get the Sea Clearly salt you have mentioned?

If that is not available, would you please post a link of the next best salt that you recommend?



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Old 10-25-2007, 03:22 PM
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Sea Clearly isnt a salt company per se, it is a company i am affiliated with to produce and research quantum products. we are not yet marketing our products because of FDA, mainstream science obstacles, politics, and many other reasons. (dangerous if used imporperly). you will not find us on the web at all, we are at this stage private.

De Souza is the company that i recommend to get your Sea Salt. i am not affiliated with them, but through our (Sea CLearly) research, we have found their salt to be the perfect product. i will try and find their phone number if i can.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:08 PM
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from bali


personally, i do not like celtic salt for 2 reasons:
~ the area between france & the uk is highly polluted
~ all the celtic salt i've seen comes in non-biodegradable plastic bags, which means that the salt, strong as it is, eats the plastic & thus carries some of the plastic chemicals into the eater's body

here's some nice sea salt from bali:
Bali Sea Salt by Salt Traders Inc.

& here some wildcrafted raw seaweeds:
Rising Tide Sea Vegetables - loveseaweed.com

shortly i'll post some info that supports what adam said about sea salt earlier in this thread

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Old 10-30-2007, 01:52 AM
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david jubb says


this is from secrets of an alkaline body: the new science of colloidal biology by annie & david jubb, 2004 (1-55643-481-2)

"phytoplankton, algae, & plants deliver minerals to us in their most assimilative form, for colloids have been part of a complex biological system; minerals coming in the form of colloids from these natural biological life forms are imbued with vital energetics ..." (p.76)

"for minerals to be absorbable by the body they have to be in colloidal form; they also need to have been part of a biological system, like algae, friendly bacteria, to be within their whole food mineral complex such as you would generally find in nature ..." (p.179)


this is from jubbs cell rejuvenation: the science behind lifefood cleansing by david jubb, 2006 (1-55643-555-x)

"sun dried sea salt is a star performer [...] this sun dried salt is special as it is still bound to its living phytoplankton, which is a veritable software program for rejuvenating a mineral starved cell.
"while the salt crystal remains moist, it retains its minerals & can change into an acid in the presence of a base, or an alkali in the presence of an acid [...] salt crosses the barrier of both the cell membrane & the membrane within the cell surrounding the nucleus ...
"seawater is an isotonic fluid, like blood serum; naturally crystallized sun dried salt has reactive properties that affect the human organism positively; cosmic rays ionize seawater at depths up to a few hundred feet, & radioactive trace/macro elements well up; organic & mineral nutrient rich elements are created by this ionization; pathogenic bacteria are unable to survive in seawater; this property is only found in sun dried sea salt & fresh seawater ..." (pp.65-66)


"sea salt -- sundried, unprocessed; bears the wealth of minerals of the ocean, up to 92 trace minerals, many of which are no longer found in the soils; superior to rock salt; recently sun dried sea salt still retains biophotons, while sea salt coming from ancient sea beds, though it still has some life in it, is missing its more volatile minerals which have been lost with time" (p.160)
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Old 10-30-2007, 02:53 PM
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you are correct about the Celtic Sea salt, i included that info somewhere in these threads.


do you have a mineral analysis of the bali product, or are you just taking their word? as with Celtic, bali is another inland based sea salt... it even states on the site that they harvest this on black sand. black sand is usually high in iron oxides, magnatite, silicates, and feces.(bird, human, animals etc.)

btw, the presence of iron oxides usually indicates that any surrounding hills or mountains are ripe with gold.
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I just received my Celtic sea salt package. Will try the toploading procedure tomorrow. After that I will post how it went
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:18 PM
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ok, just make sure that you strain the salt water through a paper towel or something to catch the silicates. (sand)

good luck.

if you will, give me a run down on the procedure you are going to do.


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Old 10-30-2007, 09:20 PM
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I just read your top loading procedure one more time. And I will do everything according to it. I will take two litres of distilled water, dissolve four table spoons of sea salt in it and then filter the saltwater through a coffee filter to remove the silicates. I will dose this amount so that I can use it all up over the 24 hour period taking small amounts each 10 minutes. I will drink some fresh water if I desire it and eat some salad If I will be hungry, but nothing heavy. After the 24 hour period I will eat some yogurt and go to sleep.
I guess that is all.
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how often should this cleanse be done
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Old 10-31-2007, 05:28 AM
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be careful with your alchemy, jetijs

1 lt = 4 cups = 1/4 gal
2 lt = 8 cups = 1/2 gal

i seem to remember that adam suggests 4 tablespoons of salt for 1 gallon of water

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Old 10-31-2007, 10:28 AM
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Bora,
I was reffering to this:
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For ME, that comes out to be about Four TABLESPOONS per gallon of water, or Two tablespoons per liter (approx). Now this can even change, as it does for me. This happens as your body senses that it has enough, and tells your tongue to desire a lesser amount (or greater if you need more)
I will re-read the topload procedure, because I want to do everything exactly right. The gallons and ounces just confuse me a bit, we have litres and grams
Thanks.

Edit: Ok here's what I am gonna do. Two gallons is approx 8 litres. Four table spoons per gallon is eight table spoons per 2 gallons. That means I should use about 1 table spoon of salt per litre.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:25 PM
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It seems to me from Bryan's instructions that it is important to get the ratio to your preferred taste.


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Old 10-31-2007, 01:32 PM
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Yes, I did so. I add a little less than one table spoon to a liter of water, then I tasted it. I put some more salt to the water and tasted it again till my tongue said it's right
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I'm going to try this too eventually. Maybe over a nice break from work near the holidays or something. Don't worry I won't do it during any family holiday events, LOL!


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Any comments from Bryan or anyone about this salt product? :

Dead Sea Salt - Wholesale & Bulk


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Old 10-31-2007, 06:27 PM
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Also I seem to have found a web site for Desouza. (Bryan also had told me you can find it at good health food stores.)

Desouza's Home Page


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Old 11-01-2007, 12:49 AM
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NO!! NO DEAD SEA SALT!! Dead Sea salt is VERY high in bromine, and can hurt you very bad. it is for external use only.


the De souza site is correct. don't waste your money on the chlorophyll though, stick with the spirulina or kelp. (not part of the Top Load, im just stating for general use)


sounds like you have it correct Jetijs... mix until it tastes like a nice potatoe chip (lip smackin mmm mmm gooood!!) if you havnt ever done a flush before, be prepared... try to use DAMP toiletries, as dry ones will make you VERY sore. don't freak out if you are going to the bathroom every 10 - 20 minutes, this is normal. just make sure you drink fresh water as you feel the need.

as for how often to do the Top loading... again, you must learn to read your body. if one night you have a craving for something salty, this is the sign to drink a glass. if you are not satisfied, drink another. as for Toploading, i do this about 2 or 3 times per year, depending on how much processed garbage i cannot avoid in a given time period. if my gut feels bloated, and im not getting at least one good bowel movement a day (one per meal is optimal) then i will flush.


futurepather, if you do it after the holidays then you can flush out all of those heavy fat/calorie meals before they can take hold of you.!!!
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yes, it is my first flush time. It is now been 12 hours since I began the procedure. In the end of the first hour my stomach started to make bubbling noises from gases and liquids moving around there. I have consumed 3 table spoons of the salt mixed with 3 litres of water so far. After 10 hours I had to stop for a hour and a half, because my body seemed to reject the saltwater, it felt like one more sip and I will have to vomit, so I stopped and drank some fresh water. Just like if my stomach said "anything else but the salt water" After this resting period I went one with the procedure, everything seems to go well for now. It's gonna be a long night
Oh, I also have a moderate headache, it started a hour or two after I began the procedure. Is this normal?
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yes, i got a headache my first time as well. remember, you are detoxing all sorts of chemicals , bugs, molds, mildews etc. what made mine easier was doing stomachs exercizes, sit ups, twists, toe touches, leg lifts etc. i believe this loosened my bowels a bit to make release easier. once you start going, it is much easier.

it is good that you are listening to your body... take a break if need be. just dont quit.


have you had a bowel movement yet, or is everything backed up?
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Thanks Bryan, that is good to know about the salt and maybe I will wait until after the holidays.

I think lavender might be a good aid in this process. Perhaps used in (ideally) non-petrolium jelly to sooth the wiping process or for treatment after.

Also I wonder about taking papaya enzymes while doing the 24 hour cleanse. They help digestion. Is this a good idea?


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Btw here's more on the non-petroleum jelly. I use the store bought kind but you can make it yourself :

Inspired by Better Basics for the Home, by Annie Berthold-Bond (Three Rivers Press, 1999).
This easy-to-make, all-natural formula is a fabulous stand-in for petroleum jelly, but you can use it with confidence since it doesn’t do any of the harm associated with petroleum products.
SIMPLE SOLUTION: You can use it to heal scrapes and rashes, protect and add a little gloss to your lips, and even dab some on finger and toenails to impart luster and moisturizing magic. This is a great multi-use formula. Find out how to make it here:
INGREDIENTS

2 ounces olive oil
1/2 ounce grated beeswax
12 drops grapefruit seed extract

1. In a double boiler over simmering water and medium heat, combine the olive oil and beeswax, and heat until the wax has melted.

2. Remove mixture from the heat and add the grapefruit seed extract.

3. Beat with a hand mixer until creamy.

Makes 1/4 cup. Store in a glass jar with a screw-top. This jelly will keep for a year.


Store brand : Un-Petroleum | Home


I believe the shampoos at the main stream grocery store still use a petroleum base (strange to get clean my rubbing that stuff in your scalp).

The is soooo senseless as something like grapeseed oil can be used instead. Try health food store brands for non petroleum shampoos.
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hehe, add some sea salt to that non-petroleum jelly and it will probably last longer than a year, plus you have the full mineral spectrum for complete healing.

i think i would use a blender on high speed instead of the heat though... just personal preference. (HINT, vortex **cough**)


as for the papaya enzymes, im sure that will work, but the yogurt or kefir would be ideal. all of the procedures that i listed have been thoroughly tested, on over 500 participants with almost no side effects (other than bloating from drinking to much too fast) other items added during the top loading i cannot vouch for safely. this is why i have people repeat the steps they are going to take, to ensure things are not changed.
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Bryan,
My flush is now over. I must say that it was an interesting experience. I had to run to the toilet all night long The hardest part for me was to get the salt water in me, but in such moments I just took a rest for a hour or so. At the end I drank somr kifir and went to bed. Now I feel good, maybe even better than usual. I will continue to consume sea salt but at lower quantities, about a teaspoon a day to keep my body provided with all the mineral it needs.
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Well done.

just use the daily intake according to what your body tells you. there are some days when i dont use any at all.


if i may grossly ask, were you passing clear, semi clear/brown, or still solid at the end?
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After the first 12 hours everything that came out of me was a brown liquid. At the end of the 24 hour period, the liquid was semi transparent.
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excellent, that is how it is supposed to be. actually, it took me almost 18 hours before i was at the semi clear stage.

good job, you did it right
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update on bali salt


i got myself 1 kilo of sea salt from bali, which, as the website shows, comes in a beautiful burlap bag; i love that bag

the salt, however, comes in a plastic bag, something the website does not mention at all

the website also fails to mention that this salt gets washed (in chlorinated water most likely) & sun dried twice so much so that perhaps 1/2 or more of its minerals are drained or evaporated out, as a result of which the salt has a mild flavor, is sort of hollow & weighs little
1 kilo of bali salt = twice the volume of 1 kilo of himalaya salt

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