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Secret Service agent Glenn Bennett was riding the follow up car. He was the first to document, in contemporaneous notes, Kennedy taking the back shot. He wrote, “"I looked at the back of the President. I heard another firecracker noise and saw that shot hit the President about four inches down from the right shoulder."[339] The Warren Commission accorded his observations “substantial weight,” writing, "Although [Bennett’s] formal statement was dated November 23, 1963, his notes indicate that he recorded what he saw and heard at 5:30 p.m., November 22, 1963, on the airplane en route back to Washington, prior to the autopsy, when it was not yet known that the President had been hit in the back.”[
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I HEARD THE AUDIO TAPE AND CONFIRMED THAT JEAN HILL DID SAY SHE WAS SURE THERE WAS A GUNSHOT IN THE CAR.

Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them around 1971. Tyler is working to get some of this vintage audio online. I will keep you abreast of Tyler's progress unless he starts posting himself. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point. HILL SAW GREER'S SHOT.

Roy Dennis: But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car?
Jean Hill: Yes.

The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:

Creepy for sure, including Roy! What about that transcript of Jean Hill? Even just some of it. Are these from your interviews? Are they accurate?


Murder from Within, Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy

Jean Hill confirmed in this 1971 interview that there was in fact a shot in the President's car. I feel lucky to share this with the thousands of people who've looked at the evidence of Secret Service involvement in the outrageous government assassination of John F. Kennedy. Fred Newcomb's son, Tyler, provided this interview a few years ago and I finally uploaded it for all listeners. It's only 2:23. HEAR IS THE TRUTH!

Roy Dennis: But ah, you do recall at least one shot from the front of the car?

Jean Hill: Yes.

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Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk. FRAME 310.








Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.

Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.


The bullet entered over the right eye, which is corroborated by all three films and Chaney's up-close view of the President. All eyes by those men were fixed on the car because Greer suddenly pumped the brakes.

http://www.jfk-online.com/bennett.html

Protective Assignment of S/A Bennett on 11/22/63 at Dallas, Texas

Air Force Two landed at Love Field, Dallas, Texas at 11:35 A.M. Upon deplaning, I covered the fence and press areas. The President's plane arrived at approximately 11 :38 A.M. I stayed with the President and First Lady during the time they greeted the crowd on the apron and along the fence. The greeting lasted for about 10 minutes and the President/First Lady entered their car and the motorcade planned to depart. I asked while moving towards the follow-up car what position I should take, Mr. Roberts informed me that I should take the right rear seat of the follow-up. I took this position and held it during the entire motorcade. I left this rear seat position at one point in the trip to assist in getting well-wishers away from the President's auto. About thirty minutes after leaving Love Field about 12:25 P.M., the Motorcade entered an intersection and then proceeded down a grade. At this point the well-wishers numbered but a few; the motorcade continued down this grade enroute to the Trade Mart. At this point I heard what sounded like a fire-cracker. I immediately looked from the right/crowd/physical area/and looked towards the President who was seated in the right rear seat of his limousine open convertible. At the moment I looked at the back of the President I heard another fire-cracker noise and saw the shot hit the President about four inches down from the right shoulder. A second shot followed immediately and hit the right rear high of the President's head. I immediately hollered "he's hit" and reached for the AR-15 located on the floor of the rear seat. Special Agent Hickey had already picked-up the AR-15. We peered towards the rear and particularly the right side of the area. I had drawn my revolver when I saw S/A Hickey had the AR15. I was unable to see anything or one that could have fired the shots. The President's car immediately kicked into high gear and the follow-up car followed.

The President's auto and the follow-up proceeded to the Parkland Hospital. Upon arriving at the hospital's parking lot, I was instructed by ASAIC Roberts to stay with the Vice-President who had followed us into the parking lot. I immediately went to the Vice-President's auto and accompanied him to a room on the ground floor of the hospital. I then continued with the Vice-President back to Washington, D.C. where I was relieved.

/s/Glen A. Bennett

Special Agent

11-23-63


The bullet entered above the right eye, which is corroborated by all three films and Chaney's up-close view of the President. All eyes by those men were fixed on the car because Greer suddenly pumped the brakes. Jfk was shot in the back right before the headshot, which is depicted more clearly in the nix and muchmore films.

http://jfkthelonegunmanmyth.blogspot...on-part-2.html

Let’s begin with James Chaney.
Chaney was the motorcycle Officer riding to the right rear of President Kennedy’s limousine - in the inboard position. Despite being the closet non-limousine witness to the assassination – he was never called to testify before the Warren Commission! Following the assassination, he was interviewed by Bill Lord from WFAA –TV. This is how he described the shooting:

“We had proceeded west on Elm Street at approximately 15-20 miles per hour. We heard the first shot. I thought it was a motorcycle backfiring and uh I looked back over to my left and also President Kennedy looked back over his left shoulder. Then, the, uh, second shot came, well, then I looked back just in time to see the President struck in the face by the second bullet. He slumped forward into Mrs. Kennedy’s lap, and uh, it was apparent to me that we were being fired upon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iPwJvBfzgE







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A shot fired through the front of the windshield- To Barb and Jerry - Page 23 - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum






Bill Clinton Sent His Ark State Troopers to Savagely Beat Gary Johnson in June 1992

Here is the overview. Johnson lived next door to Gennifer Flowers at the Quapaw Towers. The security camera used to protect his condo also caught her door. That camera taped Bill going into Gennifer Flowers' condo on numerous occasions with his own key.

Had this security camera tape surfaced while he was lying about Flowers, it would have sent the evil couple back to Arkansas. If it was the Democrats' turn for the presidency in 1992, so be it. But any one of them could have presided over a great economy by just staying out of the way. The Clintons are criminals. Johnson's video could have certainly saved this nation a great deal of grief. We would not be facing the prospect of Hillary in 2008.

You will hear Johnson tell how three henchmen confiscated the tape, then proceeded to smash in his nasal cavity, break his collarbone, break his elbows, puncture his bladder and spleen, and leave him for dead.


A simple flinch and some honest testimony proves that two shooters were evident early in the shooting. Jfk was shot before frame 225, while Connally was hit in the back about a half second later.

I think Connally was reacting to a bullet that passed him that went in and out of the windshield and into Kennedy's throat. Then Connally was shot in the back from almost the same position the front left. If you look at Connally you can see that he is holding his hat and appears that his wrist has not been damaged yet. YT COMMENT

This proves that Connally was hit with different bullet. And do believe that Connally's wrist and thigh wounds are from bullet fragments from the last head shot. I do believe that Kennedy's throat and back wounds are not from the same bullet. Throt wound from the front and back wound from the back. YT COMMENT

The bullet hole appeared after it came through the windshield. It was captured at frame 255. As everyone can see it closely resembles a bullet hole in a windshield. The darkness in the center indicates a hole that is surrounded by froth. This fact was confirmed many years ago.





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JFK Assassination Forum Assassination of JFK discussion and debate surrounding the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy In Dealey Plaza Texas on November 22nd 1963

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You run away, change the subject and otherwise duck, dodge and evade when asked to do the same. We see it over and over and over again. This most recent stupidity with the upper back being the base of the neck is one of many examples. Here's your chance to come clean. Please state you understand that Jfk was shot in the upper back, which all alone debunks the single bullet stupidity. It entered near T3, just right of the midline.




Starr's report on Foster's death had a 20 page addendum attached to it. It involved the eyewitness account of one Patrick Knowlton. In short, when he arrived at Fort Marcy Park to relieve himself, Foster's car wasn't there yet, but Vince was already dead. He arrived around 4:15pm and Vince died around 2pm. Every person who ordered the report got to read the evidence that Vince was moved to the Park after death. The three judge panel either voted 2-1 or 3-0 to include it. Starr fought it and lost.
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Bill & Hillary Clinton: A Life of Violating People: The Clintons nearly murdered Gary Johnson who was Gennifer Flowers neighbor on 6/26/92 gary johnson

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This is a putrid, reddish-brown fluid with a very foul smell that can emerge from the oral and nasal passages. It is easily mistaken as a brain injury, assault or just simple blood. It emerges as a result of the gases forming throughout the body. When gas formation occurs in the stomach and intestines, the abdomen can become tense and distended. Subsequently, the increase in abdominal pressure causes a purge of foul, blood-tinged fluid from the mouth, vagina and nose. A similar feces-mixed fluid will also emerge from the rectum. Purge fluid can be useful in determining the time of death. If an individual dies in a hotter climate, like Texas or Mexico, the purge fluid can be seen in less than 24 hours. [Image: Puppet on his Death Bed]

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On Thursday, May 23, attorneys representing Ken and Jackie Johnson have come forth with information from a paramedic report which confirms that there were significant injuries on the body--specifically the face-- of 17 year-old Kendrick Johnson that contributed to his death in early January.

The paramedic had refused to move the body, which was in a pool of blood along with vomit, after inspecting the injuries of an already deceased Johnson.



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http://what-when-how.com/forensic-sc...hyctic-deaths/ manual S

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Manual
A hand (“throttling”) or forearm occludes the neck vessels
Virtually all cases are homicides
Autopsy features:
• Congested face with scleral and conjunctival petechiae
• Abrasions and contusions of the neck and chin skin
• Strap muscle hemorrhage in the neck common
• Often hyoid bone or thyroid cartilage fractures, particularly in older
individuals where these structures tend to be more ossified and rigid

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local...30/Autopsy.pdf autopsy

Strangulation Injuries:
Bilateral scleral hemorrhages and conjunctival petechiae are present. Fine petechiae are present on bilateral periorbital
skin. Foamy edema fluid is present within the upper airways and the larynx.

Blunt Force Injuries:
Linear scrape-type abrasions are present on the bony and soft tissue prominences of the face predominantly involving
the forehead, cheeks, nose and chin, right greater than left. Similar linear scrape-type abrasions are present on the bony
and soft tissue prominences of the chest and abdomen; small focal areas of superficial soft tissue hemorrhage are
present underlying the abrasions of the upper chest.
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There was no easy way he could have fit in there. Something needed to be placed in with him to keep him from shifting because his upper body was out of the mat in the vertical down position. Cramming the shoes between his legs and mat stopped gravity from working. This makes sense with the evidence. Your second paragraph is moot because his shoulders were too wide to fit in easily without wriggling his way in.
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Prosecutor in controversial case says Clinton had no choice but to defend rapist – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

https://www.scribd.com/doc/229667084...-Alfred-Taylor

There's nothing in the case file about any lost or tested evidence that I can see. It magically skips to a plea agreement without any explanation for doing so. It very well could be that the story of lost underwear was entirely made up by the prosecutor as a gift to an up and coming Hillary Rodham. It's hard to imagine that sending out evidence for testing would not require filing a legal brief. I wonder if the Sheriff's Department still has Taylor's intact underwear with the vicitm's blood on it?

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Mayor Rawlings reiterated Friday morning that a second suspect, a female, was arrested at about 11:30 p.m. She was reportedly in a shootout with Dallas SWAT officers near the garage at El Centro College.

A suspicious package was discovered near that suspect's location and the DPD bomb squad headed to the scene. No bombs were found.

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Is Sherri Papini Kidnapping a Hoax? | Law News Sherri Papini

“‘I said, ‘This looks like Sherri Papini here,'” Everson told The Daily Mail. “So I walked over, the guys had left the car, I walked over and her window was down a little.” Everson asked if the woman was being kept against her will, but didn’t get a response. “I said, ‘I’d be willing to meet you in there and we can make arrangements for you if you are being trafficked, or there is a phone number in there and we have safe houses here in Redding.’ She said ‘thanks,’ that’s all she said to me and put her head down. Something wasn’t right.” Everson says she then called police and reported the vehicle the woman was in.

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However, the woman ignored Everson when she was approached. “I said, ‘You look like that woman who was abducted here in Redding, are you OK?’” Everson told the Daily Mail. “She never answered me, she didn’t answer yes, she didn’t answer no, she just looked at me. And I said, ‘Are you being held against your will? Do you need me to call 911 right now?’ And again she didn’t answer.”

Still, Everson — who is part of a local anti-sex trafficking coalition — tried to help. ‘Sex trafficking in this area is getting very big, so I was thinking that’s what’s happening here,” she continued. “I said, ‘I’d be willing to meet you in there and we can make arrangements for you if you are being trafficked, or there is a phone number in there and we have safe houses here in Redding.’ She said, ‘Thanks.’ That’s all she said to me and put her head down. Something wasn’t right.”

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Christine, who also noted that the woman looked “tired,” “worn-out,” and “scared.” didn’t give up then though. After all, she’s part of a local anti-sex trafficking coalition and figured the woman may have been a sex trafficking victim. “I said, ‘I’d be willing to meet you in there and we can make arrangements for you if you are being trafficked, or there is a phone number in there and we have safe houses here in Redding.’ She said, ‘Thanks.’ That’s all she said to me and put her head down. Something wasn’t right.”

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JERROL CUSTER: “Which tells you again, you had to have a king-size force coming anterior to posterior [front to back]. Everything seemed like it was just pushed backwards. This whole area blew out.” (ARRB)

…”Here’s another thing too, that shows this is more than likely – I’d say 80 to 90 percent – entry wound.” [indicating front wound over sinuses] (ARRB) Jerrol F. Custer

https://fansinaflashbulb.wordpress.c...assassination/ FRAMES

Men of Courage: JFK-elimination Evidence, Discoveries, Motives, Suspects by Donald Roberdeau: (3) Men of Courage: JFK-elimination Evidence, Motives, Suspects, Discoveries, + Outstanding Researchers provided by Donald Roberdeau (page 3 of 14)

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/inf...exhf255p92.jpg

Zapruder Frames - Costella Combined Edit




http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread721285/pg2

Notice how in frame 312 and frame 313 JFK's head moves forwards, then backwards? Also notice what appears to be the malformed back of the head in frame 313? Again, also notice the movement of his shoulders compared to his head. This is, IMO, an indication of 2 shots at roughly the same time. Let's not forget as well that the majority of witnesses have the shots spaced out like so: Shot.......... Shot..Shot. In other words they reported a shot, then a pause, then 2 shots in quick succession. The majority of witnesses seemingly back up my claim of 2 shots at the same time.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/...98790/pg3&mem=

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11355219#post4 FRAME 313

I'm going with the Governor who had two bullets fly past his head, both of which came from the front and were fired by different shooters. Since he was shot in the back, he knew there were at least 3 shooters.

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/conn_j.htm

Mr. SPECTER. What is the best estimate that you have as to the time span between the sound of the first shot and the feeling of someone hitting you in the back which you just described?
Governor CONNALLY. A very, very brief span of time. Again my trend of thought just happened to be, I suppose along this line, I immediately thought that this--that I had been shot. I knew it when I just looked down and I was covered with blood, and the thought immediately passed through my mind that there were either two or three people involved or more in this or someone was shooting with an automatic rifle. These were just thoughts that went through my mind because of the rapidity of these two, of the first shot plus the blow that I took, and I knew I had been hit, and I immediately assumed, because of the amount of blood, and in fact, that it had obviously passed through my chest. that I had probably been fatally hit.

http://www.eutimes.net/2016/10/maryl...Union+Times%29

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/new...1c4990cec.html


Governor CONNALLY. I had seen what purported to be a copy of the film when I was in the hospital in Dallas. I had not seen the slides.
Mr. SPECTER. And when do you think you were hit on those slides, Governor, or in what range of slides?
Governor CONNALLY. We took--you are talking about the number of the slides?
Mr. SPECTER. Yes.
Governor CONNALLY. As we looked at them this morning, and as you related the numbers to me, it appeared to me that I was hit in the range between 130 or 131, I don't remember precisely, up to 134, in that bracket.
Mr. SPECTER. May I suggest to you that it was 231?
Governor CONNALLY. Well, 231 and 234, then.
Mr. SPECTER. The series under our numbering system starts with a higher number when the car comes around the turn, so when you come out of the sign, which was----
Governor CONNALLY. It was just after we came out of the sign, for whatever that sequence of numbers was, and if it was 200, I correct my testimony. It was 231 to about 234. It was within that range.

Not until very recently did I realize that jfk was shot in the back right before the headshot. My focus was always on the exit wound and the headshot with some work put into the bullet hole in the windshield. I never had strong feelings about the last 2 shots, but mostly believed one was fired to confuse those on elm street.

Everything important has finally come together and makes perfect sense for the universal belief that the president was shot three times. Two of those shots coming from the front make any rear shooter totally irrelevant. This new evidence is the only way the government would ever revise this case because they could simply add a gunshot wound without changing any prior conclusions from decades ago.

The back shot had to come from a different shooter because there wasn't enough time to get off another shot, as the last 2 shots were separated by less than a 1/4 second. It takes at least 3/4 of a second between shots.

For starters, the Zapruder film clearly shows jfk's back being impacted right before he's shot in the face. It kinda looks like a 'pow' from a batman episode. The other two films also show an impact but not quite the same way. What SS agent Glen Bennett reported seeing is exactly confirmed by all three films. For all intents and purposes the jfk assassination has finally been solved.



Everything important has finally come together and makes perfect sense for the universal belief that the president was shot three times. Two of those shots coming from the front make any rear shooter totally irrelevant. This new evidence is the only way the government would ever revise this case because they could simply add a gunshot wound without changing any prior conclusions from decades ago.

The back shot had to come from a different shooter because there wasn't enough time to get off another shot, as the last 2 shots were separated by less than a 1/4 second. It takes at least 3/4 of a second between shots.

For starters, the Zapruder film clearly shows jfk's back being impacted right before he's shot in the face. It kinda looks like a 'pow' from a batman episode. The other two films also show an impact but not quite the same way. What SS agent Glen Bennett reported seeing is exactly confirmed by all three films. For all intents and purposes the jfk assassination has finally been solved.






Mr. KELLERMAN. Actually, from all the X-rays that were taken, and we viewed them all together when I say "we," I am saying the medical people who were in the morgue at the time, the two Bureau agents, myself, and also Mr. Greer, who was in there with me, naturally, they were looking for pieces of fragmentation of this bullet. There was none; only one piece to my knowledge. That was removed inside above the eye, the right eye.

People dont understand the electoral college. Say One candidate wins every vote in California that would be 10,000,000 votes for one candidate, and the other candidate won the other 49 states by 150,000 in each state, that would still make the candidate who only won California (1 state out of 50) the winner because that candidate would have 2,650,000 more votes. So ONE state could decide who the president was over the wishes of the other 49. Make sense now?

http://npaper-wehaa.com/clevescene/2...rticle=2511530 OH missing

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/12/...-since-friday/

Her family describes her behavior as out of character and is a concern to the family and police.

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/gener...#disqus_thread

Her family reached out to police to help locate her after growing concerns about her recent out-of-character behavior.

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Who are the electors? The Electoral College has 538 members, a number drawn from the sum of the number of U.S. senators and House members plus three electors for Washington, D.C. All states except Maine and Nebraska are winner take all, meaning that the candidate who wins a state's popular vote gets all that state's electors. Maine and Nebraska do it differently: Two electors vote for whoever won the state popular vote, and one elector from each congressional district votes for whoever won that district.

In most states, electors are chosen among political party activists. "Generally, the parties select members known for their loyalty and service to the party, such as party leaders, state and local elected officials and party activists," reads the National Conference of State Legislatures website.
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Surgeon’s sketch suggests 2 gunmen killed JFK
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A fascinating drawing by the surgeon who tried to save John F. Kennedy’s life could sensationally prove Kennedy was shot by two different gunmen.


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