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The Panacea Chemtrail Production

The Panacea Chemtrail Production (1 of 32)
YouTube - The Panacea Chemtrail Production (1 of 32)

Since 1997 to now in 2010, evidence and data continues to be collected by the grass roots movements to show related health and environmental effects from recorded Aerosol chemical spraying (AKA Chemtrails).Proven facts show the difference between condensation or "contrails" vs chemtrails being observed plus the motivation for the aerosol spraying from many patents. Contaminated rain water and other samples have been identified with the elements mentioned in these patents (Barium, aluminum and many others) and are linked to the growing worldwide reported health effects. A new disease has also been identified with related data collected from Chemtrails (Morgellons disease). Aerosol Operation Crimes & Cover Up

Today in 2010 when this documentary was made, the Mainstream pop artist Prince joins the press showing the German military, NBC news, and many documentaries in presenting enough FACTs to motivate the public to address this chemtrail phenomena. Governments continue to turn a blind eye. We are needed to create public pressure.Half baked investigations have been discounted in Panacea's production and instead a wide range of community reports and data has been included.

These include a concrete plan to set up a global rain water collection program and to recruit private investigators to help track the planes and form a report for the public. A global petition has been created to help create public pressure.Panacea has presented a government lab tested rain water sample showing toxic aluminum and has written records about birds dying. We have spoken at a conference to join the chemtrail's community towards affirmative action. Your input is needed. Chris Carnicom first opened the doors for us with his data, we are ALL now needed to participate or you can forget this issue ever being addressed to capacity.

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In this video the weatherman talks openly about the chemtrails and how they appear on the weather radar:

Amerikaanse weerman bevestigt Chemtrails (video)
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There are infrared Pixtures from 2008 from a Plane, what shows the differnt Components.
But figure, it was made at 2008, and the Pictures even are made earlier.
But still no movement anyhow about this all.




Even last Autumn a Friend made Pictures from the Sky, where a Plane did make
Trails like a Chessfield and turned at the Country border, to fly back.

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The Panacea Chemtrail Production (1 of 32)
YouTube - The Panacea Chemtrail Production (1 of 32)

Since 1997 to now in 2010, evidence and data continues to be collected by the grass roots movements to show related health and environmental effects from recorded Aerosol chemical spraying (AKA Chemtrails).Proven facts show the difference between condensation or "contrails" vs chemtrails being observed plus the motivation for the aerosol spraying from many patents. Contaminated rain water and other samples have been identified with the elements mentioned in these patents (Barium, aluminum and many others) and are linked to the growing worldwide reported health effects. A new disease has also been identified with related data collected from Chemtrails (Morgellons disease). Aerosol Operation Crimes & Cover Up

Today in 2010 when this documentary was made, the Mainstream pop artist Prince joins the press showing the German military, NBC news, and many documentaries in presenting enough FACTs to motivate the public to address this chemtrail phenomena. Governments continue to turn a blind eye. We are needed to create public pressure.Half baked investigations have been discounted in Panacea's production and instead a wide range of community reports and data has been included.

These include a concrete plan to set up a global rain water collection program and to recruit private investigators to help track the planes and form a report for the public. A global petition has been created to help create public pressure.Panacea has presented a government lab tested rain water sample showing toxic aluminum and has written records about birds dying. We have spoken at a conference to join the chemtrail's community towards affirmative action. Your input is needed. Chris Carnicom first opened the doors for us with his data, we are ALL now needed to participate or you can forget this issue ever being addressed to capacity.

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(Morgellons disease)? This is an interesting subject with a very scary history in it's possible existence.

I have included two links of images taken at 400X from an optical microscope. I discover this creature in 2004 and a great debate evolved over what the image was. The scary part is where the object begins to enter the skin cell. Oh, yes the cells around the object are skin cells.

We could never obtain new samples as the subject was no longer available.

http://67.76.235.52/images/mod0126041.jpg

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chemtrails

Chemtrails have been sprayed over Spokane Washington for the last
11 years. I have many time-lapsed photos and videos.

We live next door to Fairchild AFB, which is a tanker base and they fly
about 3-4 of them at a time zipping east/west from west of Spokane to
East of Coeur d'Alene laying the trails and after about an hour, 100% "cloud"
coverage - that white nasty whispy looking stuff.

About 3-4 weeks ago, there LITERALLY were about 40-50 trails side by
side - it was the single most sprayed sky I have ever seen.

Every time they do a huge spraying operation, so many people in this town
come down with nasal infections and respiratory problems.

A few weeks back, I came across this movie:
Toxic Skies (2008)

I haven't even seen it yet - I have a copy - just skimmed thru it and
was not a surprise to see that it was based in Spokane or at least I saw
several mentions in the movie of Spokane. This is a huge experimental
town by the way for many other things.

Anyway, having all those tankers right there - we're probably one of the
most sprayed areas anywhere.

The aluminum and/or barium based sprays can increase military radar
visibility on military flight paths (not chaff as in that weather video),
reflect sun infrared back to space, obstruct the sky to reduce visibility
of training exercises and whatever else, prevent the masses from properly
producing enough vitamin D - leading to mass problems related to low
immune system function, and whatever else. And, all those things at the
exact same time - many birds with one stone.
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Quite a challenge to find this movie on the net. No legit torrent just bunch of bogus sites wanting you to visit. It seems that everything related to it has been erased from database. I guess there is more in it than just "another conspiracy theory" otherwise it wouldn't be protected so much. Just found one link with flv. file. Will download and watch. Very disturbing subject, indeed. Thanks for the links


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(Morgellons disease)? This is an interesting subject with a very scary history in it's possible existence.

I have included two links of images taken at 400X from an optical microscope. I discover this creature in 2004 and a great debate evolved over what the image was. The scary part is where the object begins to enter the skin cell. Oh, yes the cells around the object are skin cells.

We could never obtain new samples as the subject was no longer available.

What on earth is that Dr S?

Was the subject exposed to anything out of the ordinary? I mean, did this just appear one day, or is there some explanation?

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ultra violet ray devices

I heard from someone very knowledgeable that the ultra violet ray devices -
takes care of Morgellans.

Those are the argon tube devices with HV put into them. They were very
popular "cure all" devices in the early 1900's and very popular in the
50-60's for reducing wrinkles - popularly used by cosmetologists.

Anyway, you can still buy them and they are simple technology. I have a
few that are almost a hundred years old and they work as good as any
brand new ones.
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Its interesting that you mention UV rays for curing the disease. UV is of course the main type of solar radiation responsible for ionizing the atmosphere, so it would make sense that it would effect these chemicals such as barium.
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Toxic Skies film

Hi,
THe film Toxic Skies:

I found the film on this channel (in 10 parts):
YouTube - graasroots's Channel

You can easily get youtube vidoes by installing the free IDM:
Download Internet Download Manager: high speed download accelerator

Of course it doesn't work with Chrome navigator, because Youtube is part of Google.
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Your group need to use a small remote control aircraft to go and collect air samples in the chemtrails, certified by an attorney or something like that.
Jean Louis Naudin has a lot of experience in the remote control aircrafts, he might like to contribute t build an high altitude one, if it's possible !
Anyway thanks for the hard work,
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THe film Toxic Skies:

I found the film on this channel (in 10 parts):
YouTube - graasroots's Channel
Download link I posted earlier works good. I downloaded, converted flv. to avi. with Super and watched last night.

@Aaron, Thanks I replied to you PM but your inbox is full.


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There are quite a number of Morgellon's cases in the area I live. There has also been a lot of research done locally about this disease.
I used to work for a TV station and knew some of the the news anchors pretty well. I told one about the disease, gave her comprehensive background information and researchers to contact. She was all excited about doing a piece on it, wanted to "break" the story. She pitched the story to management and they refused to cover it, and that was that. She knew better than to pursue it any further.
Anyone who thinks we have a "free" press is delusional. This is just one example of many important issues that go unexamined and unreported. The great deception in the MSM is not in what they say, but rather in what they refuse to say.

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Hi Ted, Doc, V, Jules et ALL

Guys the good news is we have 4 people now (and counting) who are interested in the rain water collection program, its gonna take a few original ideas to catch them in the act, the tracking of the plans and more samples to create public pressure, these original ideas are there to be utilized and posted in the Panacea doc, Carnicom opened the doors for us with his work its now up to us i guess to have to walk through them.

Those who are interested in the programs and ideas here is a quick sequence example of these ideas where we spoke at the conference
YouTube - The Panacea Chemtrail Production (29 of 32)

If it was not for people like the Doc and Carnicom INVESTIGATING, it would be a sad tale, the diseases are growing in numbers like cancer an most likely i predict more Alzheimer's

There is even stranger stuff going on than morgellons diesel with chemtrails, this guy has got some great footage
YouTube - RodsUFOFiles's Channel

@Jules thank you my find for helpful advice, we have a contact with a telephoto lens and a Panacea pilot who suggested a private jet to get to the altitude needed to photograph the spraying and track etc, we are working on doing getting that done ATM, we only need one to to break this wide open in my opinion ALL resources should be put into ONE cohesive and decisive evidence data program. People can also do this from the ground, rain water samples are objective and starting now so some good news guys

Wish i could have better news for all

@Doc thanks for collecting that Doc ill send that to Carnicom for his research
looks like it, now how do you explain the same fibers coming up in chemtrails?

@Ted check this out for free press my friend.
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@Aaron great man would love to see them one day and use them, if you test your water after a spraying occurred i bet you would find aluminum, its causing ill health as we speak, thanks for the summery you did there adding to the site.

@Ren, guess what mate? the blue no more stuff is in there check it out

sorry i posted this in the wrong section ALL

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YouTube - Project 'Clover Leaf'
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19th April 2010

Forget about the 9/11 hoax, the continuing extermination of the Palestinians, the bogus wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, depleted uranium, election frauds, financial robberies, and poison medicines. All those colossal catastrophes pale into insignificance, are wiped from your mind when the impact of this one sentence hits you.

The snow on top of Mt. Shasta, the California mountain that has become the picturesque symbol of New Age hope, has been poisoned.

How does it come to be that the snow the skiers eat for water on top of one of the most pristine images of American beauty contains 1,200 times the normal amount of aluminum particulate?

Why have 90 percent of the salmon in the rivers near Mt. Shasta disappeared in the last seven years?

And why, all over our country and perhaps our world, are all the trees dying, while the experts shake their heads and say they don't know why?

Retired wildlife biologist Francis Mangels told writer Michael A. Murphy about the rapid decline of fish in the rivers and streams of northern California What In The World Are They Spraying? By Michael J. Murphy

"Mangels brought me to a nearby creek that had an abundant supply of fish just a few years ago. Because the primary diet of the fish in the creek is aquatic insects, he performed a standard sample method to measure the amount of insects present.

"The samples he had performed before the alleged aerosol spraying campaign had yielded an average of 1000 aquatic insects. Our sample yielded only 31. This is over a 96% decline from samples taken just a few years ago. Mangels stated that because the fish live off of the insects, they are literally starving. This rapid decline is likely due to changes in the chemistry of the water. The only changes that Mangels is aware of are the dramatic increases of aluminum, barium and strontium which he believes is from SAG programs. "

SAG stands for "stratospheric aerosol geo-engineering", a.k.a. chemtrail program, spraying aerosol aluminum, barium and other particles into the sky to block the sun as a means to "reduce" the Earth's temperature.

Murphy also interviewed Dane Wigington, owner of one of the largest residential solar systems in Northern California on his beautiful 2000 acre property overlooking Lake Shasta, who noticed his solar power decreased by as much as 60 percent on what he calls "heavy spraying days". He also went on to say that he regularly samples the fine dust layers on top of his solar panels and other outdoor surface areas and frequently finds very high levels of aluminum and barium. Wigington believes that these are a product of SAG programs."

Wigington stated that according to The National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration, the salmon run, once seen in abundance in this area has declined from 769,868 in 2002 to 39,530 in 2009. That is over a 90 percent decline. Amazingly enough, this decline started occurring about the same period of time when residents began to see a dramatic increase in what they believe to be SAG programs.

"We also took time to test the pH of nearby soil and snow which contained over 10 times the alkalinity of the normal pH," Murphy writes. "Mangels has evidence that this drastic change in pH is also due to the massive increases of aluminum. He stated that forests, fields and farm ecologies thrive in acidic soils. Aluminum acts as a buffer that increases alkalinity and can decimate ecologies in large amounts. Mangels also pointed out that snow on Mt. Shasta was tested and sent to the EPA, who found results that contained 61,100 ug/l or parts per billion of aluminum and 83 ug/l of barium. The normal amount of aluminum in the snow at Mt. Shasta is 0.5 ug/l. Drinking water allowable is 50ug/l. That means that the snow on Mt. Shasta has tested at 1200 times more poisonous than water standards allow for aluminum. Mangels said, "Mountain climbers that come from around the world are drinking the poisonous water from the snow on the mountain"

If things are this bad in one of the more remote areas in America, what are conditions for the rest of us. The same? Or worse?

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Ash, unsure if these links are available at Chem Trails

OUT THERE TV interviews Dr Hildegarde Staninger
regarding Smart Dust, Chemtrails and Morgellons Syndrom

Nano-Partials, Man-Made, Found in plants, animals and sea food.

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Source Link:
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LISTEN FREE!

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 24
Jan Smith & Cliff Mickelson
Morgellons - New Developments
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 23
Carnicom On Morgellons Update
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 22
Carnicom On Morgellons Update
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 21
Cliff Mickelson/Gwen Simmons
WhatHappened To CDC Morgellon's Investigation?
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 20
Carnicom On Morgellon's
Morgellon's Research
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 19
Carnicom On Morgellon's
Morgellon's Update
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 18
Dr. Amy Withington & Cindy Casey
Morgellon's Update
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 17
Cliff Mickelson
Morgellon's Update
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 16
Cliff Mickelson and Maryanne:
A Health Professional Describes The Spread Of Morgellons
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 15
Clifford Carnicom
Carnicom Morgellons Research
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 14
Clifford Carnicom
Aerosol Spraying Over America
First Observations From Clifford Carnicom
Blood Testing: Lasers, Morgellons & Fungus(?)
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 13
Cliff Mickelson
Link Between GMO Crops & Morgellons?
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 12
The CDC Morgellons 'Research' Project
Jan Smith & Cliff Mickelson
Morgellons Disease - Living With A Nightmare
CDC/Kaiser 'Groundbreaking' Morgellons Study A Fraud!
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 11
Texas Chemtrail Samples Compared To Samples From Venice Italy
Hildegarde Staninger, PhD, RIET-1
Dr. R. Michael Castle
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 10
Morgellons: A Nano-911 Foreign Invader
Hildegarde Staninger, PhD, RIET-1
Dr. R. Michael Castle
Jan Smith and 'Anonymous' from the Midwest Photos
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 9
Special Update Program
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 8
Psych, Emotional, Personality And Relationship
Impacts - Cliff Mickelson, Jan Smith & Guests
May 10, 2007
Inspiring Letter About Morgellons Special #8
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 7
Hildegarde Staninger, PhD, RIET-1
Jan Smith, Morgellons Victim
Morgellons Identified - World Exclusive!
Shocking Research - Nanotech Machines
Running Wild In The Human Body
March 29, 2007
Morgellons #7 Documentation
Project FMM - Fibers, Meteorite, Morgellons
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 6
Hildegarde Staninger, PhD, RIET-1
Rahim Karjoo, M.D., F.A.S.C.P./F.C.A.P.
Jan Smith, Morgellons Victim
Shocking Breakthroughs!
November 9, 2006
Morgellons Specimen Photos in Sequence - Special No. 6
M1
(MP3 Audio File)

MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 5
Hildegarde Staninger, PhD, RIET-1
Rahim Karjoo, M.D., F.A.S.C.P./F.C.A.P.
Jan Smith, Morgellons Victim,
Stunning Data, Solid Evidence
October 24, 2006
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 4
Cliff Mickelson, Jan Smith,
Gillian Penkethman from Melbourne, Australia
Morgellons Victims
August 18, 2006
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 3
Cliff Mickelson, Jan Smith, Cindy Casey, RN and Charles Holman,
Greg Smith, MD & Judy Smith, RN
Morgellons Victims
July 17, 2006
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 2
Cliff Mickelson, Jan Smith, Cindy Casey, RN and Charles Holman
Morgellons Victims
June 27, 2006
(MP3 Audio File)


MORGELLONS SPECIAL No. 1
Cliff Mickelson & Jan Smith
Morgellons Victims
June 22, 2006
(MP3 Audio File)
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What in the World are they Spraying?

New documentary coming
YouTube - "What in the World are They Spraying?" - Official Trailer


Chemtrails or atmospheric geo-engineering is occurring in our skies on a daily basis and is slowly but surely gaining worldwide recognition thanks to the internet.

WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THEY SPRAYING! is a documentary currently in production by The Reality Zone and is scheduled for release in October , hopefully this film will get picked up by one of the mainstream media channels and open the eyes off the wider public to what is occurring above their heads .
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If we see Chemtrails seriously discussed on the corporate-owned mainstream media, it has significance: It means that a "disclosure" is coming (because it is now a "forbidden", suppressed, subject). What they would claim is a "full disclosure" anyway (since it would be pretty difficult to believe liars and deceivers of such a magnitude as we have now, on the elemental questions of "what they are", and "why they are doing it").

But should it happen, there are some important questions they must answer about chemtrails at that point:

> WHO THE HELL had the power to decide to do this, that affects the entire planet? Who's signature is on the paper? It is important to note that not even the UN has such power over sovereign nations, not by a long-shot.

> HOW IS IT FUNDED? Who is paying all these billions to do it? Again, who signed off on the funding? To what level were nation's legislatures (Congress / Parliament) informed about it all.. The elected people who supposedly hold the purse strings by law in most countries?

> HOW DO THEY KNOW if it is "safe" or not, who signed off on it being "safe" for humans and wildlife? We want the names of the medical professionals, we want to see the Studies backing them. For instance: Was it tested on honey bees? Was a study done on the long-term effects on Human Beings?

> What specifically are airplane pilots and airline personnel told about them... and how are they being threatened to remain silent regarding them? Folks, there is simply no way Chemtrails could exist, unless a huge and well orchestrated security organization actively stops these people, as well as people in national governments, from talking about them. WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THIS HUGE SECURITY APPARATUS?

The imperative of having to answer these questions, is why it will likely remain a absurd "secret" for a long time yet, despite the simple act of looking up into the sky and seeing them day in and day out.

But chemtrails also have a very "dangerous" effect on our society beyond the physical. They are constant reminders that we are living a life of deception in our culture... That something so elemental, is being done without the public's consent... That by inference, the facade of what the status quo claims is "Reality".... is a lie.

This is highly corrosive to the old "trust the government, they know what's best" attitude.
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Not sure if this was really a joke or someone was forced to
change their story claiming it was a joke but anyway...

Google Translate

That is the English translation of the site. You can read the details.
The video is in the left column about 10% from the top.
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I am currently learning about orgonite. Some say orgonite is multiple times stronger orgone accumulator with very high density of metal-organic layering.

Here is a photo I take this morning. I notice the same chemtrail as yesterday. They never stay long above my house. I know that there are some people experimenting with chembuster around my area.



However at the north and west of my place, I notice cloud that could be identified and chemtrail cloud.

Also, while panacea mention that:
"Do not waste your time with skeptics- Compared to the grass roots movement they have only done a half baked attempt at investigating."

Edostar doing a lot of chembusting activity in Bali island (Indonesia). His activity is mentioned here along with photo of the change in the sky. At Don Croft forum:
Etheric Warriors Forum :: A grassroot movement fighting tyranny with orgonite devices

The cloud in the right side of this picture is the same thing I see this morning in the north and west of my places. Adostar mentioned he can make it disappear in an hour with Don Croft style cloudbuster. At recent post he mention that the price to build one is 150.000 rupiah, around $15.





Ashtweth, do panacea university disagree with orgonite solution?
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Thanks for all the links and info guys and for that rant Jib. Very useful, more than bloggers here, people who are concerned with the efforts that contribute in making a difference .... very helpful guys.

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Ashtweth, do panacea university disagree with orgonite solution?
Hi Sucahyo, no not in that way, its impossible for us to prove orgonite and its effectiveness compared to rain water samples proving that there is unsafe levels in the air, my friend hence why we focus on that effort.. a global rain water collection program, you can be more effective this way , We need to get this info to the mainstream with their data, orgonite wont do that sadly, all the people using orgonite could be really effective if they participate that's all we wanted to point out .

note Sucahyo if you dont understand cloud busting and that device you can take moisture out of the air and cause drought, hence why cloud busting is best suited for those who are qualified, i dont recommend "bustng" clouds you can cause drought , i trust Reich and Trevor constable. Sadly you have a lot of people operating these with out knowing this.

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Thank you. I am aware of the danger of orgone use. I rather scared that orgone accumulator is stupidly being promoted as health device without any attempt to learn how to safely use them. Like how to prevent mental degradation for the patients treated with orac. I see no research being done in orgonomy, while orgonite is being cast away by orgonomy.

I have been asking the same thing to orgonite community. They are still in the learning process too. The effect of orgonite is still not fully known. There seems to be case where people can build it wrong. The result of an orgonite can be oppositely different for different people. Still unstable.


Most of the implementation is without pipe. It should be the same as people building orac, not cloud buster, and yet Edostar show a lot of photo confirmation of reduced chembuster replaced with healthy cloud.

It seems orgonite that Edostar spread accross Bali not just creating hole like what orgonomy do, but it also invited rain. It seems to only put hole on chemtrail but do not put hole on natural cloud. Edostar report on the link mention normalized rain cycle.

Although he also notice exception, isolated rain:


isolated dryness:
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color of sun is different

The sun today was a very different color.

You know when the sun is about down over the horizon but still up enough
so that you can look up at trees, etc... and see that pinkish red color that
is really beautiful and relaxing?

Today, all day along, the weather satellite, radar, etc... showed clear
skies here but I couldn't see one bit of blue sky...they're all fake, etc...

Anyway, the white chemtrails were thin enough that occasionally the sun
would shine through enough to look bright on the ground. AND, it was
that same color that it should be at sunset. I never saw that in my life.

There is something different about the chemtrails, OR, there is something
different with the sun today. I went to the grocery store, the only time
I went out and away from the house and when I was in the parking lot,
I could feel a very, very different feeling, hard to explain but didn't
surprise me since I could visibly see a color change.

I honestly don't think anyone else in my town would have ever noticed
but it was very easy to notice, in my opinion.

Anyway, was very weird - again, never saw those colors from the sun
on the ground or on sides of buildings except for when the sun is about to
drop past the horizon and this was for over 6 hours from about noon when
I started to notice all the way up to 6pm +.

I have a feeling there is something going on that is different and I don't
think it is just the nearly 100% "cloud" coverage that is invisible on the
fake radar and satellite shots.
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Anyway, the white chemtrails were thin enough that occasionally the sun would shine through enough to look bright on the ground. AND, it was that same color that it should be at sunset. I never saw that in my life.
I experience that once after Semeru volcano coughing here. It look red. Some people believe that if you see halos around sun, there would be disaster coming.
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Cme

Looks like there really was something with the sun yesterday:

cme sun - Google Search

Large CME left the sun yesterday about 1pm my time. That is about
when I started to notice the sun had a different color. It will probably whip
up some good wind storms, which is what normally happens.
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To see what Aaron is referring to you can go here: to see the recent sun pictures:

Search and Download SOHO Near Realtime Data

Select these values:

Image Type = LASCO C3
Resolution = 512
Display = Movie
Start and End Dates =
2010-08-01
2010-08-02

You can also choose the other Image Types and see different variations of the sun.

Then click Search to see the CME (Coronal Mass Ejection)

Also:

Solar Tsunami to Strike Earth

FOXNews.com - Solar Tsunami to Strike Earth

Earth is bracing for a cosmic tsunami Tuesday (August 3, 2010) night as tons of plasma from a massive solar flare head directly toward the planet.

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