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Old 05-25-2007, 10:53 AM
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What is this I- Mind Transformations?

I-Transformations - Who are they and why are they doin this? They are using the same address as PATHS and also testimonials, just changedthe name of the modules and selling them.
?!!?! Any ideas? Found that on SP forum another pointless PATHS thread.
Are you at PATHS aware of that?
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:28 AM
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It does not look as if they are selling anything Jure. If you click on the products link there is nothing there (at least when I clicked).

The fax number listed is a California number, somewhere around Folsom and Roseville.

I think this is someone from Steve Pavlina's forum trying to stir up trouble.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:13 PM
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That whole site looks somewhat cheap and cheesy from the outset, but I don't let that prejudice me. However, (at the time of writing) when I click on the "Programs" page, it doesn't go through. The same thing happens when I click on the all-important "Terms and Conditions" link. On the homepage, you can find a "login" option at the bottom. What's going on there? I can't figure it out. I can't be bothered.

The "Contact Us" page has a silly photo on it, downright sarcastic in fact, as if they are lampooning PATHS. Why don't they go and do the same thing to Eli Lilly?

Honestly speaking? I smell a spoof, and not a very good one, either. I rate it 4/10 for sheer laziness.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:31 PM
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Yep! Love you, Joy!
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:18 PM
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Jure,

Where did you find the site? Could this be PATHS staff just playing around with some different look ideas for the site?


Joy,

You wrote:

The folks on the Pavlina thread - at least some of them - seem to take this as proof-positive that PATHS is a scam. I'm not feeling that. To me it seems as though someone is going to very serious lengths to discredit PATHS

Yeah I have felt that way about many posts over at the pavlina forum (I don't even check over there anymore).

People who are not that interested would naturally not put that much effort into continuing the discussion about PATHS, they would just spend their time and energy doing other things.

Once I saw this, it made sense as PATHS seems to be in direct competition with one of the pavlina products : Paraliminals
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:20 PM
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I had a brief look at the Pavlina forum and it looks to me like a very negative forum indeed. I think I will stay well away from it.

It does look though as if someone is trying very hard to organise a smear campaign against PATHS. Maybe they are so negative that nothing in the world works for them.
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:24 PM
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I'll repeat what I posted on the PI Forum:

Honestly... I wouldn't put too much energy in to this, as it seems this has been posted by someone who has yet to get a life!

If you look at the other site, the address seems to be identical, but if you look at the Fax number, that is going to a place in California, and that is NOT the contact number on the authentic PATHS site.

Also, if this WOULD have been a replica site of PATHS, why then, haven't they put their products to order from the site?

Last: I believe that maybe I belong to the LSR, but that doesn't really bother me.
I truly believe that when things don't change, the way we would like them to do, in our lives, then maybe it's time to question ourselves, by asking; 'What Is My Payoff For Staying In This Situation?'
I honestly think that if we're not 'able' to change certain habits/thought forms/beliefs, then maybe we need to look at WHY we're not able to. Is it because if we DID, we would have to respond to our Lives in a way that we are not truly ready for? Is it because we feel 'safe', staying within a pattern we've had for years? Is it because... you get the picture!

It is So easy to blame outside 'forces' instead of seeing that it is all within, and for me personally, I LOVE the saying: Mirror, Mirror on the Wall Because there is NO thing outside of ourselves that is not a Reflection of what is going on INSIDE of us!

All the Best to ALL of us, PATHS or no PATHS!

Much Love
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:16 PM
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Hi all,

This seems to be a private-label website. Anyone can license the PATHS technology under their own business name and resell it. The PATHS company itself, however, will never directly offer the technology under a different name.

A private label website owner has a lot of responsibility. They provide their own customer service, etc... Also, PATHS cannot provide customer support in foreign languages either so the world is wide open.

All those testimonials look like filler to me and the site is still under development. I see it isn't publicly viewable anymore, probably at the request of PATHS for causing confusion.
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I'll repeat what I posted on the PI Forum:

Honestly... I wouldn't put too much energy in to this, as it seems this has been posted by someone who has yet to get a life!

If you look at the other site, the address seems to be identical, but if you look at the Fax number, that is going to a place in California, and that is NOT the contact number on the authentic PATHS site.

Also, if this WOULD have been a replica site of PATHS, why then, haven't they put their products to order from the site?

Last: I believe that maybe I belong to the LSR, but that doesn't really bother me.
I truly believe that when things don't change, the way we would like them to do, in our lives, then maybe it's time to question ourselves, by asking; 'What Is My Payoff For Staying In This Situation?'
I honestly think that if we're not 'able' to change certain habits/thought forms/beliefs, then maybe we need to look at WHY we're not able to. Is it because if we DID, we would have to respond to our Lives in a way that we are not truly ready for? Is it because we feel 'safe', staying within a pattern we've had for years? Is it because... you get the picture!

It is So easy to blame outside 'forces' instead of seeing that it is all within, and for me personally, I LOVE the saying: Mirror, Mirror on the Wall Because there is NO thing outside of ourselves that is not a Reflection of what is going on INSIDE of us!

All the Best to ALL of us, PATHS or no PATHS!

Much Love
Moria x
Moria Hi!

I think what you wrote is so so true.

We have this amazing ability to look so much for help in the way that we need it so much but when it comes and it does not give us the things that we want we blame it for everything that has gone wrong in our lives.

The tools that we are offered in life we have to meet half way for them to succeed.

The tools give us a chance, it is then up to us to do the rest. If you are lying in bed, no software or instrument will make you get out of bed UNLESS you truly want to.
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:04 PM
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Like many companies, PATHS has the ability to supply other companies with their technology to sell under their own name. I-Mindtransformations is such a company.

They will be marketing the RDT technology under their own name, to their existing customer base, in both English and German.

We apologize that the I-Mindtransformations site was not protected by a password, and for any confusion this has caused by people seeing it while it is still in its developmental stage. I-Mindtransformations, Inc. has rectifed this.

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Old 05-25-2007, 11:11 PM
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I hope in that case that testimonials on their sites are posted only with express permission of the original testimonial-ers (or whatever the word is) as I can see the issue causing some confusion in the future, for original PATHS users ...
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:27 PM
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I hope in that case that testimonials on their sites are posted only with express permission of the original testimonial-ers (or whatever the word is) as I can see the issue causing some confusion in the future, for original PATHS users ...
agreed..I hope this is the case.
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:48 PM
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I hope in that case that testimonials on their sites are posted only with express permission of the original testimonial-ers (or whatever the word is) as I can see the issue causing some confusion in the future, for original PATHS users ...


This is a given. No testimonials from the PATHS websites will be on the I-Mindtransformation site. What some people saw was a site still in the development stages that was not ready to be viewed yet.
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:49 PM
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Okay, it happens!
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I'll repeat what I posted on the PI Forum:

Honestly... I wouldn't put too much energy in to this, as it seems this has been posted by someone who has yet to get a life!

If you look at the other site, the address seems to be identical, but if you look at the Fax number, that is going to a place in California, and that is NOT the contact number on the authentic PATHS site.

Also, if this WOULD have been a replica site of PATHS, why then, haven't they put their products to order from the site?

Last: I believe that maybe I belong to the LSR, but that doesn't really bother me.
I truly believe that when things don't change, the way we would like them to do, in our lives, then maybe it's time to question ourselves, by asking; 'What Is My Payoff For Staying In This Situation?'
I honestly think that if we're not 'able' to change certain habits/thought forms/beliefs, then maybe we need to look at WHY we're not able to. Is it because if we DID, we would have to respond to our Lives in a way that we are not truly ready for? Is it because we feel 'safe', staying within a pattern we've had for years? Is it because... you get the picture!

It is So easy to blame outside 'forces' instead of seeing that it is all within, and for me personally, I LOVE the saying: Mirror, Mirror on the Wall Because there is NO thing outside of ourselves that is not a Reflection of what is going on INSIDE of us!

All the Best to ALL of us, PATHS or no PATHS!

Much Love
Moria x
And this is why I KNOW you are AWESOME and AMAZING MORIA!!!

What a powerful 'dent' you make in the matrix with your feminine energy, yes, but we are all Spirit incarnated and you are so FULL of compaasion and love and honesty - its truly a privelege to know you and have you on this site and this PLANET! You know this of course - that you are wonderful and spectacular, right???

I'd never label you anything like LSR or HSR, but simply PERFECT as is everyone on this planet - though its more personally special to me because I know a bit more about you - AWESOME!

Thank you SO much for your thoughts expressed here! Of course, I see the beauty of 'ME' in those words hehe

Truly, Namaste, Moria I do see the spirit of you in me

Stephen
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I'll repeat what I posted on the PI Forum:

Last: I believe that maybe I belong to the LSR, but that doesn't really bother me.
I truly believe that when things don't change, the way we would like them to do, in our lives, then maybe it's time to question ourselves, by asking; 'What Is My Payoff For Staying In This Situation?'
I honestly think that if we're not 'able' to change certain habits/thought forms/beliefs, then maybe we need to look at WHY we're not able to. Is it because if we DID, we would have to respond to our Lives in a way that we are not truly ready for? Is it because we feel 'safe', staying within a pattern we've had for years? Is it because... you get the picture!
hi moria, and all,
I couldn't have put it any better my self.....and ya, if it is given Attention then it will be, neg or pos.

....Adrienne
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I really hope they wont use our testimonials without permission and ofcourse if they serve other languages that is good for other potential customers.
I see from all the posts that Californians are going to have German language support .
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Hi Jure,

Those testimonials were used as fillers for the development of the website. It was put online accidentally without password protection. When I first saw it from a link posted, it surprised me too until I realized who had that website built.
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:01 AM
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Private Labeling

Private Labeling is very standard business amongst almost every major corporation in the world. For example, you can develop a software package yourself and if it meets certain standards, for example IBM Business Solutions will put their name on it even though they didn't develop it and will use their own name to help promote it widely. I'm sure they may tweak it a bit, etc... This can be a smart move if done properly.

Some people who aren't familiar with private labeling may think a company is selling out but that doesn't mean they are selling out, they are doing what they have always done... they are selling their product. It is pretty well accepted that a company with a product has a job of selling the product or service. Besides a mission statement, purpose, etc... of a company, that is what a company is supposed to do; sell their product.

Actually, the currently existing PATHS websites are all private labeled as well. The product on these websites is under the PATHS name but the name of the website is in whatever name the affiliate wants it to be. PATHS TO LIFE Presents... for example is on one of my sites such as www.pathstolife.com: Program Authoring The Human Subconscious instead of it saying PATHS-VX Presents... that is a simple version of private labeling.

One thing to take comfort in with PATHS is that no matter who the private label website is owned by or what it looks like, when people sign up for the modules, they are getting the same high quality, same effectiveness technology that people get by going directly to a PATHS website under the PATHS name.

The PATHS company will simply provide the technology so that the quality of the technology will remain the same.

I have experience with private labeling in the supplement world. I had my own brand of cordyceps mushrooms. It was a variety that was more highly concentrated in deoxyribose compounds than any other cordyceps known to man. When people bought these bottles from me, as far as they knew I bottled them myself. I just bought the bottles with no labels on them and put my labels on them with the name of my business.

Fortunately, I had a great relationship with the bottler so I could buy whatever volume I wanted at very low prices. That was a great benefit because usually it isn't worth a company's time to deal with a potential private labeler like a single health food store owner like myself unless they are committing to high volume.

There are private label products and services that everyone uses on a daily basis. Most of the high speed DSL in certain parts of the country are all riding on Qwests backbone. Every single one of your local ISP's in your own towns offering internet service are doing nothing more than private labeling a certain amount of bandwidth. Once it is outside of their location, it is all on the same main lines most likely. Even baby car seats. You can go to most stores and see several different popular brands and when you look really close, they're all made by just a few manufacturers and not by the name brand printed on them. These private labeled products and services are all around us all the time, in your home, at your work, etc...

Even aweber one of the most popular online internet services in the world and I've used them a long time as a happy customer...you can even get a private label site from them and your customers will not know it is aweber. I register all my domain names through jumphere.org . That is my friend's website and most people wouldn't know it but it is a private labeled godaddy site the largest online domain name registrar in the world! LOL It is literally mind blowing what is private labeled all around us.

Anyone who wants more information on what private labeling is all about and how large this concept is in our lives, simply go here:
private label - Google Search
Over 40 million websites listed for private label in google so it seems to have a little popularity.
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:37 AM
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I don't know much about these things, but recently I found out that the exellent spirulina I am using is available under several completely different and competing brand names here in Japan, presumably to appeal to different market sectors. I regard it as a very common practice, one that we are all party to whether we know it or not, and I'm totally okay with that.

What I'm not okay with is using people's testimonials for one label when they genuinely thought that they were identifying with another. It's not good to leave people out of the loop like that. But okay, we've already been through all this! I understand that it was a glitch, I know it won't happen again.

EDIT: Wow, is my Self Esteem module finally kicking in or what? I just noticed.

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Old 05-27-2007, 10:14 AM
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Appology from I-mind:

Dear Mr. Klen,
We here at i-Mind Transformations,Inc would like to formally apologize to you and anyone else that has been unsettled by this. Our site is still in the developmentstages and was suppose to be password protected and not available on the internet,until its completion.
The use of the testimonial from the PATHS web site was only intended to be place holders while our site was under development. We had and will not ever use any testimonials from PATH customers or other affiliates. We will only use testimonial from our own customer database, this has and always been our intention. Once again, we would like to extend our deepest apologies to you for any problems and or concerns this may have cause you and anyone else.

Sincerely,


i-Mind Transformations Staff


Very nice from them.
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I'd like to say Congratulations to the PATHS people for getting this licensing deal! This will be great for all of us - PATHS makes more money and has more to put into research and development of new modules and more and more people are allowed to experience the modules in different countries! What a great way to help change the world! I LOVE IT!
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Cool licensing

It says a lot for Paths when another company wants to use their technology! Way to GO!

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