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Who's face do you see in the picture below? Everyone who looks at this may think of a different person. Hint: It may well remind you of someone in government. To find your answer, tilt your head to the right until you see things more clearly.


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Hahahaha!!! That last one is pretty funny!
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In the illustration below, the colored objects seen at left are rearranged at right. The same exact sizes and shapes are used in both, but the figure at left has a total of 64 squares, while the figure at right has 65. Since all the pieces fit together perfectly, with no intervening space, how can the figure at right have a larger area?

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Pink, or green?

Now here's a really cool illusion. First, let your eyes follow the moving dot as it moves clockwise, and all you see is pink dots. Then focus directly at the + in the center, and the moving dot will appear green! Continue to focus on the + for a few more seconds, and all the pink dots will fade away, leaving only the moving green dot!

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In the illustration below, the colored objects seen at left are rearranged at right. The same exact sizes and shapes are used in both, but the figure at left has a total of 64 squares, while the figure at right has 65. Since all the pieces fit together perfectly, with no intervening space, how can the figure at right have a larger area?

Ruling class deception is similar.
Areas must equal as well as triangles slopes (3/8 slope is not the same as 5/13).
The following statement is false and someone is a layer.
The same exact sizes and shapes are used in both
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Old 02-08-2010, 05:06 AM
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Rickoff,

I thought that last illusion was pretty cool when the missing one turned green, but when all the pink dots dissappeared...that was just plain freaky!

There is no green dot to even begin with! Yet in the end thats all you can see....Seriously amazing

thanks for sharing!
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:53 AM
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Ruling class deception is similar.
Areas must equal as well as triangles slopes (3/8 slope is not the same as 5/13).
The following statement is false and someone is a layer.
The same exact sizes and shapes are used in both
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Someone is a layer?? Okay, what did someone lay?

No, the statement is true. I assure you that the colored pieces in both drawings are exactly the same size and shape. Just count the squares on each side of each shape, and you will see. Or print the page, cut out the colored shapes, and lay one on top of the other. They are exactly the same. Each of the triangles, regardless of color, are the same (3x8), and each of the quadrangles are identical (3x5x5). The grid squares are all equal size, and you can see that by measuring any ten horizontally and then vertically. You are right, in that the slope of a 3x8 triangle (.375) is slightly different than the 5x13 slope of the larger triangle formed by the combined green triangle and blue quadrangle (.385) The hypotenuse of the 5x13 triangle, however, forms a perfectly straight line. You could also think of the blue quadrangle being a shape that includes a 3x5 rectangle with a 2x5 triangle on top of that. The slope of the 2x5 triangle is .400, and so now you have 3 varying slopes, although they are all drawn at exactly the same 21 degrees acute angle from horizontal.
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Black and white, or color?

Here's a really interesting illusion. Keep looking directly at the picture. First you see a black and white picture of a castle. Then you watch a blurry color overlay. Then you view the castle again, but see it in color, until it fades back to black and white.

YouTube - Castle Optical Afterimage Illusion
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Someone is a layer?? Okay, what did someone lay?

No, the statement is true. I assure you that the colored pieces in both drawings are exactly the same size and shape. Just count the squares on each side of each shape, and you will see. Or print the page, cut out the colored shapes, and lay one on top of the other. They are exactly the same. Each of the triangles, regardless of color, are the same (3x8), and each of the quadrangles are identical (3x5x5). The grid squares are all equal size, and you can see that by measuring any ten horizontally and then vertically. You are right, in that the slope of a 3x8 triangle (.375) is slightly different than the 5x13 slope of the larger triangle formed by the combined green triangle and blue quadrangle (.385) The hypotenuse of the 5x13 triangle, however, forms a perfectly straight line. You could also think of the blue quadrangle being a shape that includes a 3x5 rectangle with a 2x5 triangle on top of that. The slope of the 2x5 triangle is .400, and so now you have 3 varying slopes, although they are all drawn at exactly the same 21 degrees acute angle from horizontal. If you were to extend the hypotenuse of the 5x13 triangle out until you reach the next perfect intersection on the graph squares, you would then have a 8x21 triangle, with a slope of .381, so you see the slope is variable. It will only be identical at 3x8, 6x16, 9/24, and so on, in multiples.

This is perfect example of politician puling wool over sheeps eyes.
Assume the geometric figures of 8x8-square are made of gold plate such that each square weighs 10 ounces.
Rearranging these gold pieces into 5x13- rectangle crates diagonal empty space equal to one square on the same grid scale.
Sound minded person would not pay someone $650,000.00 for geometric figures having only 640 ounces of gold?
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:10 AM
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That's right, but where does the extra square come from?
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The exaggerated rectangle shows the diagonal empty space equal to one square worth $10,000.00.
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That's not it. The hypotenuse is a perfectly straight line. I would agree that there is obviously something going on in this illusion, but I think it is probably associated with the black lines that outline the shapes. Notice that, for example, the shortest side of the blue quadrangle in the left arrangement is situated before (above) the grid square line. When rotated into position in the figure at right, however, it is past the line. And, if you were to take away the black lines and just have color meeting color, the color boundaries would not align properly on the grid. I think it's as simple as that, but a very clever illusion indeed. The black lines create the illusion that all is correctly aligned.
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That's not it. The hypotenuse is a perfectly straight line. I would agree that there is obviously something going on in this illusion, but I think it is probably associated with the black lines that outline the shapes. Notice that, for example, the shortest side of the blue quadrangle in the left arrangement is situated before (above) the grid square line. When rotated into position in the figure at right, however, it is past the line. And, if you were to take away the black lines and just have color meeting color, the color boundaries would not align properly on the grid. I think it's as simple as that, but a very clever illusion indeed. The black lines create the illusion that all is correctly aligned.
In order for hypotenuse to be a perfectly straight line angles must equal as well as slopes.

5/13 slope must equal to 3/8 otherwise
5/13=X/8
X=3.077
however X must equal to 3.00

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Yes, certainly that is correct and obvious. What isn't obvious, though, is that none of the 3/8, 2/5, and 5/13 triangles are actually those proportions. The artful use of the black lines only makes it appear that way. If the actual proportions are known, the slopes will all be identical. In other words, the slope of the greeen triangle is identical to the slope of the blue quadrangle. The sloping black line that appears as a hypotenuse at the center is in fact perfectly straight, and there is no open space as shown in your thumbnail.
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Old 02-20-2010, 03:52 AM
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Who is this?

Move in close and look at this picture. Who is it? Did you guess Albert Einstein?
Now move back away from your monitor screen 10 feet or more, and who do you see?
What's your guess? Let me know.

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Old 02-20-2010, 03:59 AM
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Real, or an illusion?

This is a perfectly flat area that has been transformed, by sidewalk artist Edgar Mueller,
into a cavernous pit. Amazing depth perception in this one.


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Move in close and look at this picture. Who is it? Did you guess Albert Einstein?
Now move back away from your monitor screen 10 feet or more, and who do you see?
What's your guess? Let me know.
Now that's interesting! Much more attractive even if she did have
toes on one foot! lol
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Now that's interesting! Much more attractive even if she did have
toes on one foot! lol
I think you meant 6 toes on one foot, right? Actually, and you probably know this already, that is a myth that became popular after a beach photograph showed wet sand clinging to one foot in the shape of an extra toe. Just one more optical illusion, and a good one if we could locate that particular photo.

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How many toes?

Take a look at this young woman's left foot, at the right side of the photo. How many toes does she appear to have? Do you count six? It definitely looks like six, but is an optical illusion caused by wet sand clinging to the side of her foot in a shape that appears similar to an extra toe. This is Norma Jean, aka Marilyn Monroe, the "other face" seen when looking at the Einstein image seen 4 posts earlier. She was born with 5 toes on each foot. Nice natural optical illusion, though.

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I think you meant 6 toes on one foot, right? Actually, and you probably know this already, that is a myth that became popular after a beach photograph showed wet sand clinging to one foot in the shape of an extra toe. Just one more optical illusion, and a good one if we could locate that particular photo.

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Yes, I thought I hit 6.

Actually on that pic, I just disfocused my eyes and crossed them slightly
and Marilyn's face appeared without moving back.
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Those street paintings done by Edgar Mueller are amazing. I"ve always imagined having a house where I could paint the walls anyway I chose. And that's the type of thing I would love to have painted on the walls. Like a good one I just thought of would be to take a room and paint the entire thing, ceiling, walls, floor into a 3d image of outer space with planets, moons, suns, etc. Or one like an underwater paradise would be neat too.

I'm gonna have to go check out his other ones I've seen now that you got me thinking about em again. My grandpa showed em to me before from his phone.
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Those street paintings done by Edgar Mueller are amazing. I"ve always imagined having a house where I could paint the walls anyway I chose. And that's the type of thing I would love to have painted on the walls. Like a good one I just thought of would be to take a room and paint the entire thing, ceiling, walls, floor into a 3d image of outer space with planets, moons, suns, etc. Or one like an underwater paradise would be neat too.
Yes, that would be nice, and quite a conversation piece too. Have you ever been in a dining establishment where they had a mirrored wall that created the illusion that the place was actually much larger, and that many more people were present? That's an interesting illusion also.

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Here's another interesting illusion that depends entirely upon your perception. Count the number of cubes that you see below. How many cubes are there?




Did you count seven? Correct!

Did you count six? Correct again!

It all depends upon whether you visualize the black squares as the top side of each cube (in which case there are six cubes), or the bottom side (in which case there are seven cubes).
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See the Frog.....

Look at the picture and you will see a frog. Keep watching, as the picture rotates, and then what do you see?

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How is this illusion done?

Watch the following video, and then contemplate on how this "magic trick" might have been performed. Let's see if anyone has a viable answer to this illusion. This is an illusion, right? Or is it real? You decide.

YouTube - 【2010央视春晚 1080HD】17 - *术表演 Magic Show 2/2 刘谦 Liu Qian


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thru-glass trick

He's the only one that I've ever seen do it without a cover. He even
exposed his arm as it was through the table by taking his other hand
away.

I'm downloading it in HD from here right now:
YouTube - 【2010央视春晚 1080HD】17 - *术表演 Magic Show 2/2 刘谦 Liu Qian
to see if I can catch anything in slow motion.

The first uncovered one looks like he took his hand and smacked the
table from underneath and that caused the 3 coins to bounce in the air, while
he may have been able to snag one of those three. The one in his hand
he looks like he was palming by the position of his palm under the table.
I saw an explanation that 2 coins were 1 spring loaded coin. I couldn't
tell, the HD finally downloaded but lagged so have to look at it later, looks
fairly layered one on top of the other to me so far.

But the one where he puts his arm through the table - no idea. The
popular young American illusionists - David Blane, Chris Angel, etc... do the
through glass tricks, but always covered as most of those, the glass is
simply sliding down into a slot so they can go through.
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At first when I looked at her she was clearly turning right.
Then I starred at her feet, then she was turning too the left LOL!
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Pretty good tricks. I am pretty sure I know how he did them all.

#1 he picks up the empty container with 2 fingers on his left hand. Under those fingers is a coin. When he puts the container under the table and under that pad he can easily drop it into the container. You can clearly see he drops nothing with his right hand.

#2 same trick underneath the table, palm 2 coins and drop them in the glass container underneath, but now he is using a special spring loaded coin that swivels out into 2. on impact, it flips into 1 coin and the coins are already in the container underneath the table.

#3 this one is a bit obvious, he puts 3 coins in the glass container. The black ring is magnetic and one of the coins in the glass container is steel. The top coin is probably steel too. Then he actually smacks the glass bowl under the table a couple of times to get the steel coin in the glass container to stick through the glass to the magnet ring. He palms the top coin, lifts his hand from the table separating the coin under the glass from the magnet and it falls in the bowl.

#4. More 'spring loaded coin'. You can clearly see when he smacks the table with his hand, the 'underneath the glass' coin is already in his hand. There are actually 3 coins on the table, but the coin on the right is that same spring loaded coin that you can twist open into two. Look at how it overlaps the middle coin. When he strikes the table from underneath, the coin on the right which is spring loaded flies into the air from the force and snaps back together into 1 coin. if you compare the right coin to the left coin you will see it is visibly thicker and has a kind of beveled edge.


#5. This one is intricate and relies on the camera. Watch how the camera goes down to surface level so we are even with the table. The table is not glass, its plexiglass and the plexiglass rotates. Watch his left hand when the camera pans down as he rotates the plexiglass and the small hole that is cut into the plexiglass into position. The camera pans back up but he is now covering the hole in the plexiglass with the same hand.

He then reaches down with his hand through the table and gets the coins.

When he is done, the camera goes back to surface level and he again covers his hand as he removes it from the hole. here is where he fools you. the beauty of this trick is even if you see him pushing the table open in the beginning, you never see him close it so you think thats not how he did it. the table is spring loaded like his coin. if you look carefully You can see the table retracting itself back to the original position and causing his hands to push to the right a couple of times while the camera is still table level. When the camera pans up the table has already gone back to its normal position concealing the hole.

He is the "spring loaded magician!"
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Your exactly right gary, i heard the coin smack to his ring as soon as he put his hand down. I also noticed the sping loaded coin. When he laid the 3 coins down he touched the third one but the middle one moved in sync with the third as if they were connected.

I was puzzeled at first about the glass too, but now after your post i can see how he turns the glass with his left hand when he goes to cover his right hand. I can also now see how his left hand jerks while the glass is sliding back. So the glass is shut before the camera pans back up.

The glass closing was real slick, his hand jerking was the only thing that gave it away. Nice catch gary. I was amazed by the glass trick at first.
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