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How come I do not see the Center Plane anywhere on the 3D Image?...But a Solid Bubble enclosing N-S?

Your Ferrocell depicts clearly a center Division between both polarizations on the side view of a magnetic field (Right Image Projection).

I know it seems like Ken's image...

Ufopolitics,

Let us first read the paper before we jump to conclusions...


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Yes Dyetalon,

How come I do not see the Center Plane anywhere on the 3D Image?...But a Solid Bubble enclosing N-S?

Your Ferrocell depicts clearly a center Division between both polarizations on the side view of a magnetic field (Right Image Projection).

I know it seems like Ken's image...


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This graphic does not show the 'twists', but is more of a shadow projection.
Think Moebius vs hourglass- they have the same shape from the side.
You will see where the cross-over region is on a moebius, but not the hourglass.
That's the difference between pix Markgoul posted earlier and the one above.
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Ufopolitics,

Let us first read the paper before we jump to conclusions...


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It's not my paper. I am a contributing author, tho.

It will be part of a presentation at the 2018 International Magnetism conference in San Francisco.
A collaborator of mine from Brazil is lecturing about the cell to a global audience.

I'll see him there in July.
(I'll be a 'fly on the wall' 'cause I'm not a real scientist).

I'll post a link to the paper after the conference has ended.
It's F'n sweet !
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Magnetic flux coming out from the Bloch domain

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The only reason I care about correcting your slight error(s)... is to make you understand for the best results of all your conclusions...therefore, your final paper.

Ok...on your example: A "whirlpool"...it does suck from one end...BUT, Expels/Exhausts from the other end...it "must" expels what was sucked right?

A Tornado is a perfect example of a whirlpool...it sucks from the bottom side on earth surface....to then exhaust on top spatial ends.

A Magnetic Field Dipole is composed of Two small Tornadoes...Both suck from the center of the field to expel at each pole ends.


Low Pressure, Low Magnetic Force is at Center of Magnet...while higher potential forces are located and distributed equally at each ends of the magnet...without any distinction for North or South.



Wrong my friend...what the word "accretion" means to you?...increase or adding by adherence...

Any "return" of any flow, whether in hydraulics or in Physics in general, are points of low pressures...then how come the poles of any magnet are the strongest potential of magnetic forces...while the center of any magnet is where the lowest forces are found?

The Center Plane of a Magnetic Field is the very starting point, for the two linear, but opposed forces which expel spatially and centrifugally outwards into space.

Take a look at the drawing below...it is originally from K. Wheeler...but I can not find the original...as it is not on his book...at least the Edition I have..So, I reproduce it:



Exactly the same way a Magnetic Field is formed....right from the very center of a coil>>> outwards, in opposite directions.

It is kind of hard to understand this, since we make a line from one end to the other...no center...but only the one that math offers dividing length in two...

Now, imagine each "line" coming from center...spins outwards...to then return back to its origin...the center...However, both spirals are spinning in the same exact direction...can you understand that?


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Dear Friend Ufopolitics,

I agree, here is how the nature draws a line, thus bidirectional starting from the middle:





Magnetic energy shown by the flux, is ejected (generated) simultaneously at the Bloch domain ground state of any dipole magnetic field into two opposite direction jets along the Bloch axis. The opposite jets yellow and blue each is circulating separately around each pole and the domain wall closing circuit.

That's my take, of course I could be wrong on that.

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Dear Friend Ufopolitics,

I agree, here is how the nature draws a line, thus bidirectional starting from the middle:

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Magnetic energy shown by the flux, is ejected (generated) simultaneously at the Bloch domain ground state of any dipole magnetic field into two opposite direction jets along the Bloch axis. The opposite jets yellow and blue each is circulating separately around each pole and the domain wall closing circuit.

That's my take, of course I could be wrong on that.

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From a 'stringy' point of view, sure. That's how I envisioned it since I took that picture.
Here's a recent paper you all may want to look at:

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/acmp/2017/2583717/
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Dear Friend Ufopolitics,

I agree, here is how the nature draws a line, thus bidirectional starting from the middle:





Magnetic energy shown by the flux, is ejected (generated) simultaneously at the Bloch domain ground state of any dipole magnetic field into two opposite direction jets along the Bloch axis. The opposite jets yellow and blue each is circulating separately around each pole and the domain wall closing circuit.

That's my take, of course I could be wrong on that.

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How about this below?



I agree with your Left Upper Arrow (yellow)...as to the Right Lower one (blue) (Both Circled by Me in white on your picture)...but not with the others, coming out from center...if you notice -the ones which I agree with- they do align going towards center plane.


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I agree with your Left Upper Arrow (yellow)...as to the Right Lower one (blue) (Both Circled by Me in white on your picture)...but not with the others, coming out from center...if you notice -the ones which I agree with- they do align going towards center plane.


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OOOH baby, we're getting closer, I can feel it!

I've been staring at this image over 13 years and there is still lots of information to be gathered from it.

Go back and look at a this pix without all the lines and arrows.
Notice how the 'bands of light' seem to be indented on the right side but extruded on the left?

That should give you some indication of where the 'pressures' are and which direction the 'arrows' should point.
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A Hydraulic Pump Analogy...

Hello Markoul,

Ok, I will cite an Analogy with a Hydraulic Pump...a typical one..

It have an Outlet (High Pressure) and an Inlet (Low Pressure)...and can not have the two (Inlet + Outlet) in just one port, that is completely impossible!...As both flows will collapse by having opposite directions...can not say they will cancel out as they have different pressures.

Think of a Magnetic Field as a DUAL PUMP ASSEMBLY, stack one on top of the other, with Two Outlets at each opposite polarization (High Pressure) and Two Returns (Inlets) located at same Center of the Field.

Or Two Pumps joined by their two Inlets Ports at center of the assembly.

Both Poles DISCHARGE at same Center Plane.

We use Magnetic Interactions, whether in Motors or Generators; the poles ends of the magnetic field...and never the center or the "sides"...why?...because that is where Higher and Stronger Forces are.

Can not put it any simpler than that...


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OOOH baby, we're getting closer, I can feel it!

I've been staring at this image over 13 years and there is still lots of information to be gathered from it.

Go back and look at a this pix without all the lines and arrows.
Notice how the 'bands of light' seem to be indented on the right side but extruded on the left?

That should give you some indication of where the 'pressures' are and which direction the 'arrows' should point.
Dyetalon,

Couldn't that be due to light source (small incandescent lamp) being "off center" related to camera capturing angle?

Just considering "possible human error" leading to wrong conceptions...

Edit: Notice left side of image (extruding light)...that bulb is partially showing a higher bright white glare...than left side?


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Let's talk about direction.
If magnetism follows the same patterns as other energies we measure, the path goes from inside to outside.
It's a property of things that spin.

Just because we don't know the source of a magnetic field, doesn't mean we can't measure or detect it's form, intensity and direction.

A couple of stellar examples:



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side view of a GALAXY
https://www.flickr.com/photos/134746...in/dateposted/

same:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/134746...n/photostream/

LOOK CLOSER
https://www.flickr.com/photos/134746...n/photostream/

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Yep. Seems this stuff comes from within and has a natural dipolar nature.
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Happy to hear about Timm being represented and recognized in San Fransisco.
Also thanks Markoul for taking the time and showing the hologram. If it is only a representation it is a nice representation.

Crystals and electrical properties in making many things. Few traces of interference in natural crystals in most cases we find
natural magnetism effect that form dipoles really pressure. I see the quantum level contribution being spin without loss and
alignment being significant to a process that uses direction and density differences of neutral particles.

Comparative liquid crystals to SPM from 1953 on have advanced as an indicator in instrumentation pico, femto range.
It is difficult to learn outside corporate research lab. Hard to understand journals research or make sense of the patent claims and drawings.
Much reference to private lab terminology jargon used on ferro chemical engineers secrets like photo quality printing Xerox and Kodak hp ect.

The electrical component having relationship with crystal formation seen in nano ferro structures.
Also in meiosis and replication of DNA the crystals having almost an intelligent role in assembling complex helix structures.
Few traces of interference in natural crystals in most cases we find natural magnetism effect that form dipoles really pressure.
I see the quantum level contribution being spin without loss and alignment being significant to a process that uses direction and
density differences what happens at the central boundary is a conversion not a buzzsaw.

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I agree with your Left Upper Arrow (yellow)...as to the Right Lower one (blue) (Both Circled by Me in white on your picture)...but not with the others, coming out from center...if you notice -the ones which I agree with- they do align going towards center plane.


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Dear Ufopolitics,

Sorry for taking me so long to reply to your post.

I really like the flow of energy you overlayed in the image and had it actually considered it in the past the same as you depict there.

The thing is no one can say with certainty what the flux direction flow is, since this flow of energy is happening at superluminal speed I believe and we perceive it as a static field.

There is a thing actually we can experimentally do, this to record using a strong microscope or electronic microscope and a high speed camera the flow of nanoparticles at the exact time the external magnetic field is applied on the ferrocell to observe their initial direction flow.

Apart of these there are a couple of points we can say from observations with the ferrocell which DO NOT support your proposed directional flow of the flux of the field as you depicted.

These are:


1) Ferrocell is not showing any flow of flux along and in parallel the N-S axis of magnet inside the physical body bulk of the magnet. If that was true then we had to disregard the geometry shown by the ferrocell and return to the geometry shown by the iron fillings clasical experiment which indeed is showing lines (I don't say flux since I don't believe iron filings is showing flux really but only positions of poles) going straight inside the magnet body North to South or South to North, whatever you like.

Additional to what Ken says may I also add that nature and specially magnetism does not draw straight lines but curves.

It is my believe I submit that there is no any flux of magnetic energy inside the body of a magnet travelling along its N-S axis, except its Bloch domain wall from where magnetic energy or flux gets ejected in two opposite steams initially perpendicular to the N-S axis. From there all flux line trajectories curl and swirl outside of the body of the magnet in space around each pole and return through the pole center void entry point back to the Bloch wall, to make up the two familiar torus geometry fields of the magnet we observe with the ferrocell on the poles.

2) The fountain flow you propose in you drawing implies that the flux exits a pole and returns to the Bloch region with opposite directions splashing in the domain wall. I don't know if that would be the most energy efficient way nature would choose. That actually would disrupt the flow of energy on each pole I submit.

I don't know maybe I am wrong and you are right. It is an ongoing investigation.

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Go back and look at a this pix without all the lines and arrows.
Notice how the 'bands of light' seem to be indented on the right side but extruded on the left?

That should give you some indication of where the 'pressures' are and which direction the 'arrows' should point.
dyetalon,

I see what you say but to be fare we can not disregard that the incandescent small lamp you have used is not exactly centered or the angle from which you took the photograph was not 90 degrees and therefore light source appears positioned more to the left side of the magnet. This makes the left side of the domain wall to appear more bright than the right side and is an inhibiting factor for your above conclusion.

Apart of the above I have said I agree with your intuition although I can not prove it conclusively.

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Extraordinary!!




Watch the nanoparticles chains get polarized from the magnetic field applied.

How the **** he did that!! He said magnifications is small!! Are you kidding me, these are 10 nanometers nanoparicles, chains must no be longer than 1-2 μm


Amazing!!
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Watch the nanoparticles chains get polarized from the magnetic field applied.

How the **** he did that!! He said magnifications is small!! Are you kidding me, these are 10 nanometers nanoparicles, chains must no be longer than 1-2 μm


Amazing!!
Yes, it is.

When the field is applied, the particles begin to chain together and form double-helix's. This activity is what takes the cell a minute to form a display clearly.

Movement of the chains is provided by the Lorentz force creating a 'pull' toward one pole (I don't remember which N or S?). This is a 'twisy-torque' resulting from spin (I won't call it electron, just spin).

As the chains grow longer, their combined magnetism pushes the other chains away (like fields repel) and all of the chains are in magnetic equilibrium with each other.

What I have always found most interesting is the helical shapes the particles make when chaining. There's something important about it, but I just can't 'nail it'.

Here's something to think about:
We have iron moving thru a magnetic field.
What happens when you move iron thru a field?

You create potential differences, that's what !

Also, the helix's may be holographic and not really two chains twisted together.
Here's an image from a published paper on magnetite particle chains:



Their cuboctahedral shape may contribute to the appearance of double-chains but in reality, there are only 1 strand per chain ?
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Markoul,

Thanks for your answers...it don't matter time involved.

The flow that I have shown is not the SPECIFIC way magnetism works...
You are right...there are not one single straight line in magnetism.

Shown flow is the adding (resultant) of all partial-angular spins, where each one has its centrifugal-centripetal cycles...as each one is enclosed within a perfect circle.

Only tool available We have so far, that indicates flow direction is the B&W CRT with a horizontal SCANLINE...that I have previously shown.

North & South are nothing but ONE SINGLE DIRECTIONAL SPIN...Therefore, both discharge to center plane in the opposite direction...a way Nature balances spins...and not "splashing" center plane in opposite directions...as you wrote.

You have mentioned many times the inner poles "entry points" or Inlets towards the center plane...and that is correct, it enters in opposite directions to pole spin...HOWEVER, have in mind that this takes place ONLY on the Higher Pressure layers...which go from pole to pole....and I know you do not believe in such flow.

Now, please give Us your logical explanation to....how could it be possible that Higher Strength Magnetism (which is perfectly measurable at each POLE) is based on RETURNING (INLET) FLOW and Not a STRONG MAGNETIC EXHAUSTING OUTPUT INTO SPACE?

Like I have cited before...the best comparison to this "dilemma" is a Hydraulic Pump example...understanding magnetism is a type of flow.


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Watch the nanoparticles chains get polarized from the magnetic field applied.

How the **** he did that!! He said magnifications is small!! Are you kidding me, these are 10 nanometers nanoparicles, chains must no be longer than 1-2 μm


Amazing!!
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Yep, pretty cool. Sorta looks like a bunch of compass needles.

Thanks for the link.

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Yes, it is.

When the field is applied, the particles begin to chain together and form double-helix's. This activity is what takes the cell a minute to form a display clearly.

Movement of the chains is provided by the Lorentz force creating a 'pull' toward one pole (I don't remember which N or S?). This is a 'twisy-torque' resulting from spin (I won't call it electron, just spin).

As the chains grow longer, their combined magnetism pushes the other chains away (like fields repel) and all of the chains are in magnetic equilibrium with each other.

What I have always found most interesting is the helical shapes the particles make when chaining. There's something important about it, but I just can't 'nail it'.

Here's something to think about:
We have iron moving thru a magnetic field.
What happens when you move iron thru a field?

You create potential differences, that's what !

Also, the helix's may be holographic and not really two chains twisted together.
Here's an image from a published paper on magnetite particle chains:



Their cuboctahedral shape may contribute to the appearance of double-chains but in reality, there are only 1 strand per chain ?

Timm,

Watch here at that point of the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0vFWo4BLM8&t=123s

When he repositioned the magnet so that light could freely hit the microscope slide at the exact moment the field was induced and chains got polarized they turn into full reflection mode and became ****ing bright!!

This is the proof i was seeking, the light lines we see on the glass surface of the ferrocell are generated by the reflective polarized nanoparticle chains and the lines of light of the glass surface coincide spatially with the chains beneath inside the thin film!!

Case closed, the image we see in the ferrocell is not some kind of light interference phenomena or effect but 100% produced and controlled accordingly by the induced external magnetic field.

This is for some here in this thread telling that ferrocell is not showing the magnetic field of a magnet but is just some play of light.

No. Lines of light shown by the ferrocell are coinciding 100% with magnetic lines. Period.

As Mike said in his video:

"The polarized nano chains are creating a light defraction grid"

It is amazing!

You could not get this with the electro microscope but you got it with an optical microscope!!

same picture but with a electron microscope:




Mike is certainly reading this thread here! not even a day passed that i have proposed the microscope experiment.

Thank You Mike!




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Timm,

That is not possible everything in the ferrofluid is dielectric, insulator to electricity. Therefore there can not be any Lorentz Force. Only when highly ionized but there is no such strong electric field present. It is just magnetism.
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Thanks for your answers...it don't matter time involved.

The flow that I have shown is not the SPECIFIC way magnetism works...
You are right...there are not one single straight line in magnetism.

Shown flow is the adding (resultant) of all partial-angular spins, where each one has its centrifugal-centripetal cycles...as each one is enclosed within a perfect circle.

Only tool available We have so far, that indicates flow direction is the B&W CRT with a horizontal SCANLINE...that I have previously shown.

North & South are nothing but ONE SINGLE DIRECTIONAL SPIN...Therefore, both discharge to center plane in the opposite direction...a way Nature balances spins...and not "splashing" center plane in opposite directions...as you wrote.

You have mentioned many times the inner poles "entry points" or Inlets towards the center plane...and that is correct, it enters in opposite directions to pole spin...HOWEVER, have in mind that this takes place ONLY on the Higher Pressure layers...which go from pole to pole....and I know you do not believe in such flow.

Now, please give Us your logical explanation to....how could it be possible that Higher Strength Magnetism (which is perfectly measurable at each POLE) is based on RETURNING (INLET) FLOW and Not a STRONG MAGNETIC EXHAUSTING OUTPUT INTO SPACE?

Like I have cited before...the best comparison to this "dilemma" is a Hydraulic Pump example...understanding magnetism is a type of flow.


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Ufopolitics,

I believe what is the cause of disagreement we have here:

<== | ==> (you) , <== -- ==> (me)

The line in the middle between the arrows is the Bloch axis.

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Like I have cited before...the best comparison to this "dilemma" is a Hydraulic Pump example...understanding magnetism is a type of flow.


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I couldn't agree more, but the pumps inlets are facing, or is, the poles. The exhaust is the outer periphery of the pumps housings.

Magnetic flux field flows quite readily through a lot of materials like the palm of your hand, a sheet of wood or plastic, but not so much for a sheet of steel, iron or other ferromagnetic substance. Since we know magnetic flux doesn't flow through ferromagnetic materials all that well, it sure appears that they are being sucked into the pole of the magnet and that is the direction of flow. If the flow was the other direction we would see some kind of attraction at the Bloch region I would guess.

The only example I can think of that demonstrates anything coming out of the pole of a magnet is a piece of diamagnetic material such as pyrolytic graphite. But that reaction is very weak compared to the field of the magnet.

This might sound too simplistic, but I think the flow is that simple.
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Interesting...
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I couldn't agree more.
All you peeps dont realize that magnetism is just the 'dielectric field'

To think magnetism is something autonomous is as dumb as thinking water is one thing and ice is another, and steam another again.


1. magnetic attraction doesnt exist, thats not magnetism
2. a magnet isnt emitting anything,
...“There is no energy in matter other than that received from its environment (as meant the Ether).” – Nikola Tesla


Center of ALL magnetic fields there is no magnetism, center of gravity there is no gravity. Retroductive logic necessitates that there is ONLY ONE FIELD, the dielectric, since magnetism is the dielectric field being express in force of loss of inertia, and electricity is the construct of magnetism and dielectricity working in unison to create a self-reproducing energy construct which propagates, and gravity is merely incoherent dielectric acceleration, or point non-specific mutual mass acceleration towards counterspace.


People are confused as to why a more powerful magnet has a SMALLER spatial footprint of influence!

This is due to the fact that a magnet is FAR FAR LESS a MAGNET as implied a MAGNETISM OBJECT than it is a DIELECTRIC DOUBLE VORTEX magneto-dielectric field conjugate system with both field incommensurability but also field coherency.

A more POWERFUL “magnet” is a far more powerful COUNTERSPATIAL dielectric HYPERBOLIOID geometry which sits over either pole. Typically a N35 GAUSS magnet has a large spatial (IE MAGNETIC!) field, and as you increase the power of the magnet to N40, N50 it becomes much smaller, and ultra high power permanent magnets rated at N55 and higher have much smaller spatially palpable magnetic fields.

ALL POWER in a “magnet” is translational UPON and TO the dielectric, …not to magnetism
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Magnetic flux field flows quite readily through a lot of materials like the palm of your hand, a sheet of wood or plastic, but not so much for a sheet of steel, iron or other ferromagnetic substance. ...
Hi itzon,

The relative permeability of steel is about 4000. That means, for equal volumes, steel will have 4000 times less reluctance than air, or the palm of your hand.

And there is no flow associated with magnetic flux. It is a field, like gravity. That is a problem associated with using hydraulic analogies. The magnetic field is like a football or soccer field. Nothing going on until the teams occupy it and the game begins. After the game is over, or the work has been done, the field remains. All the work, energy, motion, mass were brought into, or onto, the field. The field just provided a "place" for the event.

That's the way it is.

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You could not get this with the electro microscope but you got it with an optical microscope!!

same picture but with a electron microscope:



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Actually that green image was made with an optical microscope. A friend and research partner of mine did that with a 4000x darkfield setup back in 2008, shortly before he died. I'm the one who tinted it green in Photoshop to enhance the contrast. That pix is all over the internet by now.
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It is a field, like gravity.
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meaningless statement

NO branch of "science" (read mathematician slime) EVER defined a field itself
EVER, period,


Gravity is not a unique or stand-alone or "diff kinda" field itself.
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Timm,

That is not possible everything in the ferrofluid is dielectric, insulator to electricity. Therefore there can not be any Lorentz Force. Only when highly ionized but there is no such strong electric field present. It is just magnetism.
I think the particle chains create potential while the field is present. They are moving streams of ferrous metal, and the Lorentz force will apply.
I haven't found a reliable way to measure this activity (only visually), but I do keep thinking of other ways to detect it. Any ideas?

Notice in Mikes movie how the chains align with the field orientation, but they are drifting in one direction together. Like a school of fish caught in the currents. I relate this to Lorentz.

It's the 'twist'


But hey, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong...its only a theory.
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Markoul,

Thanks for your answers...it don't matter time involved.

The flow that I have shown is not the SPECIFIC way magnetism works...
You are right...there are not one single straight line in magnetism.

Shown flow is the adding (resultant) of all partial-angular spins, where each one has its centrifugal-centripetal cycles...as each one is enclosed within a perfect circle.

Only tool available We have so far, that indicates flow direction is the B&W CRT with a horizontal SCANLINE...that I have previously shown.

North & South are nothing but ONE SINGLE DIRECTIONAL SPIN...Therefore, both discharge to center plane in the opposite direction...a way Nature balances spins...and not "splashing" center plane in opposite directions...as you wrote.

You have mentioned many times the inner poles "entry points" or Inlets towards the center plane...and that is correct, it enters in opposite directions to pole spin...HOWEVER, have in mind that this takes place ONLY on the Higher Pressure layers...which go from pole to pole....and I know you do not believe in such flow.

Now, please give Us your logical explanation to....how could it be possible that Higher Strength Magnetism (which is perfectly measurable at each POLE) is based on RETURNING (INLET) FLOW and Not a STRONG MAGNETIC EXHAUSTING OUTPUT INTO SPACE?

Like I have cited before...the best comparison to this "dilemma" is a Hydraulic Pump example...understanding magnetism is a type of flow.


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You've made some good points.

I don't see it as 'in' or 'out', but more chiral or handed-ness that gives the appearance of in/out.
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