Energetic Forum  
Facebook Twitter Google+ Pinterest LinkedIn Delicious Digg Reddit WordPress StumbleUpon Tumblr Translate Addthis Aaron Murakami YouTube 150 118 90 78 10 SEATS LEFT - 2018 ENERGY CONFERENCE

Monero XMR


Go Back   Energetic Forum > >
   

General Discussion Other general discussions on topics not listed above.

* NEW * BEDINI RPX BOOK & DVD SET: BEDINI RPX

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #151  
Old 05-23-2018, 06:39 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 89
Came across the word anisotropic and Cotton Mouton effect.
In that article it made a reference to the effect of ferrolens being
used as a demonstration of solar wind for students.
So I have found an educational aspect.
Thank you.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote

Download SOLAR SECRETS by Peter Lindemann
Free - Get it now: Solar Secrets

  #152  
Old 05-23-2018, 07:17 PM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 115
Quote:
BTW Markoul, I am an inventor, as listed on a number of US patents, and a serious researcher,
Good for you Sir. I hope there is no conflict of interest here?

Regards,

EM
__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST
Reply With Quote
  #153  
Old 05-23-2018, 09:06 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 89
A lot of what I've come up with has had common authors.
What I can't understand is why Markoul is so insistent on ridiculing the
way things are taught. Actually my grandpa passed away a couple of
generations ago and nothing much has changed in my lifetime
Are we going to see a big change some time soon and if not why not?
If there was something wrong with the way things are taught it's amazing
that anyone can master all the wonderful technology that we have these days.
.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #154  
Old 05-23-2018, 11:14 PM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 82
This is interesting:
Be very quiet...we are stalking light ! Whispering gallery

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1527117077

"Analogies of whispering-gallery waves also exist for gravitational waves at the event horizon of black holes.[1] A hybrid of waves of light and electrons known as surface plasmons has been demonstrated in the form of whispering-gallery waves".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whispering-gallery_wave
Attached Images
File Type: png 200px-Whispering_gallery_modes_sphere.png (66.8 KB, 6 views)
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #155  
Old 05-24-2018, 02:43 AM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 82
I'm going to jump over that last comment and get to the point of my last post.

Doesn't the spherical nature of a magnetic field supply one of the necessary functions of whispering-mode geometry?
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #156  
Old 05-24-2018, 05:18 AM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 115
Ufopolitics,

I Second that!

EM
__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST
Reply With Quote
  #157  
Old 05-24-2018, 05:31 AM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 115
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyetalon View Post
I'm going to jump over that last comment and get to the point of my last post.

Doesn't the spherical nature of a magnetic field supply one of the necessary functions of whispering-mode geometry?
After all...it's all about vibrations. Vibrations produce all similar pattern in all forms of energy.

The same is true for magnetism and magnetic static fields.

Nothing is actually static. The magnetic flux you see are actually vibrations of dark energy and matter interacting with light energy and matter,

The unseen and unknown with the known, the dark with the light.

That is my opinion from a philosophical standpoint of course.

EM
__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST
Reply With Quote
  #158  
Old 05-24-2018, 07:28 AM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 89
https://www.theengineer.co.uk/aem-sustainable-motor/
This is for UFO to help him with his asymmetric machines.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #159  
Old 05-24-2018, 07:50 AM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 89
If this thing is for real it must be there, everywhere.
How can we see it as far as the Earth is concerned?
Why doesn't it screw up high tech. research and equipment?
Why isn't it taught this way?
Is it acknowledged and compensated for?
Can it be employed for practical purposes?
The biggest threat to the human race is going to be over population.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #160  
Old 05-24-2018, 08:06 AM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 89
About_the_Gemini_Technology
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #161  
Old 05-24-2018, 11:02 AM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 115
@Iamnuts

Quote:
The biggest threat to the human race is going to be over population.
WTF! has this to do with a technical discussion about the ferrocell??!!...
__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST
Reply With Quote
  #162  
Old 05-24-2018, 11:58 AM
mikrovolt mikrovolt is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 775
Mr Nutz, The dielectric constant is a quantity measuring the ability of a substance to store electrical energy in an electric field.

An electric field

A magnetic field

https://youtu.be/vnixSPqhxEQ

Looking back...
23 years ago this article was written. In 1995 the home computer was an ATX with windows 3.5
floppy drive and 14.4k modem ,,, remember when we had to hike to the library to read a journal.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.359921

The art of Ferro technology after many years of modifications and revisions became the ferrolens.
__________________
 

Last edited by mikrovolt; 05-24-2018 at 12:02 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #163  
Old 05-24-2018, 12:11 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 89
I was on about dialectic.

People here have done away with huge amounts of dollars and time with
things like asymmetric machines, bitoroid transformers and three battery
generators.
Whereas this thinog could be for real but I'm still searching for evidence
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #164  
Old 05-24-2018, 12:31 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 89
S

Screenshot_2018-05-24-13-24-56.jpg

The motor designers are hindered by using filings when of
course they should be using a ferrolens.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Screenshot_2018-05-24-13-24-56.jpg (140.9 KB, 24 views)
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #165  
Old 05-24-2018, 02:12 PM
bistander bistander is online now
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,110
What?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamnuts View Post
The motor designers are hindered by using filings when of
course they should be using a ferrolens.
Motor designers use tools like this:


"Filings"? I don't think so!

I am interested to see:

1.) How the ferrocell could be applied to electromagnetic machine design.

2.) How the proposed theories of this "new magnetism" applies to electromagnetic machine design.

Regards,

bi

Source of graphic: https://quickfield.com/advanced/dc_motor_simulation.htm
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #166  
Old 05-24-2018, 02:40 PM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by bistander View Post
Motor designers use tools like this:


"Filings"? I don't think so!

I am interested to see:

1.) How the ferrocell could be applied to electromagnetic machine design.

2.) How the proposed theories of this "new magnetism" applies to electromagnetic machine design.

Regards,

bi

Source of graphic: https://quickfield.com/advanced/dc_motor_simulation.htm
Let me give you a first hand example of how a cell can be a better tool for visualizing fields than iron filings:

Many of you know I quit working with the cell in 2008 to work in the motor industry. Earlier, and during my tests of the cell over 4 years, I began to look at a magnetic field more like the cell portrayed. I too, grew up playing with iron filings and magnets and thought I understood how a motor should work.

But I began thinking of how unbalanced a typical electric motor is and how the dipole field is the most efficient.
So I developed a new type of DC PWM magnet motor based on dipole to dipole interaction (same as what's going on in our blood cells).
The beauty of my design (hate to brag) is using the dipole field.
I was able to rotate the electromagnetics (stators) 90 degrees and change motor geometry.

One of the biggest downfalls of conventional motors is the Lorentz force.
When you start up a motor, good old Lorentz SLAMS the rotor into one of the bearings (depending on rotation direction). If you start and stop the motor often enough, you will end up with a bad bearing.

And the new 90 deg offset allowed me to make the stators into MODULES.
Replaceable modules!
So now I have a smooth running, quiet motor with replaceable bearings and stators. How cool is that?

I won't go into any more details here but I know you're wondering "Well, where is your fantastic motor?" Save that for another topic and thread.

My point is: I wasn't able to open my mind to other magnetic configurations until I stared thru one of these cells for a couple of years.

Iron filings and computer generated FEMM stuff is looking at the same 200 year old view they always have.
__________________
 

Last edited by dyetalon; 05-24-2018 at 02:41 PM. Reason: readablility
Reply With Quote
  #167  
Old 05-24-2018, 03:07 PM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 115
Very interesting dyetalon!

I didn't know about your motor designs!

Yes if you offset to 90 degrees the motor matching the field shown by the ferrocell then motor is working in synch with the magnetic field and should give you smoother and more efficient operation

EM
__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST
Reply With Quote
  #168  
Old 05-24-2018, 03:43 PM
bistander bistander is online now
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,110
Motor design

Quote:
Originally Posted by dyetalon View Post
...
But I began thinking of how unbalanced a typical electric motor is and how the dipole field is the most efficient.
...
One of the biggest downfalls of conventional motors is the Lorentz force.
When you start up a motor, good old Lorentz SLAMS the rotor into one of the bearings (depending on rotation direction). If you start and stop the motor often enough, you will end up with a bad bearing.
...
Hi dyetalon,

Yes you mentioned your motor earlier and I took a quick read of the patent application documents.



In the typical motor, be it AC, DC, PM, wound field, brushless, or brush commutated, like the graphic, the Lorentz forces are tangential to the axis of rotation. There are no Lorentz forces acting in the axial direction.

All magnetic fields are dipole. It is impossible to get around the nature of the dipole magnetic field. So the motor shown above uses dipole fields and is balanced.

I would like to understand what you envision as the magnetic paths in your motor design and why you feel it is superior to that as shown above. Please realize that the FEMM shown above could apply to a brushless design by electronically committing the armature making it the stationary member (stator) and having the magnet assembly rotate (as the rotor) making it an out-runner type BLDC or synchronous ACPM motor.

Regards,

bi
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #169  
Old 05-24-2018, 04:05 PM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by bistander View Post
Hi dyetalon,

Yes you mentioned your motor earlier and I took a quick read of the patent application documents.



In the typical motor, be it AC, DC, PM, wound field, brushless, or brush commutated, like the graphic, the Lorentz forces are tangential to the axis of rotation. There are no Lorentz forces acting in the axial direction.

All magnetic fields are dipole. It is impossible to get around the nature of the dipole magnetic field. So the motor shown above uses dipole fields and is balanced.

I would like to understand what you envision as the magnetic paths in your motor design and why you feel it is superior to that as shown above. Please realize that the FEMM shown above could apply to a brushless design by electronically committing the armature making it the stationary member (stator) and having the magnet assembly rotate (as the rotor) making it an out-runner type BLDC or synchronous ACPM motor.

Regards,

bi
Start another thread. This should be focused on the cell.
I'm not going to debate the pros and cons of typical vs. transverse motor design here.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #170  
Old 05-24-2018, 07:47 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 89
I've really enjoyed a bit of banter but I'm obviously not wanted so
I'll go for good.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #171  
Old 05-24-2018, 08:38 PM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamnuts View Post
I've really enjoyed a bit of banter but I'm obviously not wanted so
I'll go for good.
Are you NUTS?

We're only getting started.
Take my advice and ignore the things that are distracting and focus on making your point. All this tension is polarizing everyone into a dielectric state !

Questions, Facts and discussions...ONLY
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #172  
Old Yesterday, 06:19 PM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 115
A ferrohologram image




EM
__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
discussion, ferrocell, kens, posers, thread, ferrolens

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Please consider supporting Energetic Forum with a voluntary monthly subscription.

For One-Time Donations, use admin@ this domain > energeticforum.com

Choose your voluntary subscription

All times are GMT. The time now is 01:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v1.4.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
2007-2015 Copyright - Energetic Forum - All Rights Reserved

Bedini RPX Sideband Generator

Tesla Chargers