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Old 05-23-2018, 07:17 PM
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BTW Markoul, I am an inventor, as listed on a number of US patents, and a serious researcher,
Good for you Sir. I hope there is no conflict of interest here?

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A lot of what I've come up with has had common authors.
What I can't understand is why Markoul is so insistent on ridiculing the
way things are taught. Actually my grandpa passed away a couple of
generations ago and nothing much has changed in my lifetime
Are we going to see a big change some time soon and if not why not?
If there was something wrong with the way things are taught it's amazing
that anyone can master all the wonderful technology that we have these days.
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This is interesting:
Be very quiet...we are stalking light ! Whispering gallery

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1527117077

"Analogies of whispering-gallery waves also exist for gravitational waves at the event horizon of black holes.[1] A hybrid of waves of light and electrons known as surface plasmons has been demonstrated in the form of whispering-gallery waves".

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Old 05-24-2018, 02:43 AM
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I'm going to jump over that last comment and get to the point of my last post.

Doesn't the spherical nature of a magnetic field supply one of the necessary functions of whispering-mode geometry?
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Old 05-24-2018, 05:18 AM
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Ufopolitics,

I Second that!

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Old 05-24-2018, 05:31 AM
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I'm going to jump over that last comment and get to the point of my last post.

Doesn't the spherical nature of a magnetic field supply one of the necessary functions of whispering-mode geometry?
After all...it's all about vibrations. Vibrations produce all similar pattern in all forms of energy.

The same is true for magnetism and magnetic static fields.

Nothing is actually static. The magnetic flux you see are actually vibrations of dark energy and matter interacting with light energy and matter,

The unseen and unknown with the known, the dark with the light.

That is my opinion from a philosophical standpoint of course.

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https://www.theengineer.co.uk/aem-sustainable-motor/
This is for UFO to help him with his asymmetric machines.
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:50 AM
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If this thing is for real it must be there, everywhere.
How can we see it as far as the Earth is concerned?
Why doesn't it screw up high tech. research and equipment?
Why isn't it taught this way?
Is it acknowledged and compensated for?
Can it be employed for practical purposes?
The biggest threat to the human race is going to be over population.
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WTF! has this to do with a technical discussion about the ferrocell??!!...
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:58 AM
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Mr Nutz, The dielectric constant is a quantity measuring the ability of a substance to store electrical energy in an electric field.

An electric field

A magnetic field

https://youtu.be/vnixSPqhxEQ

Looking back...
23 years ago this article was written. In 1995 the home computer was an ATX with windows 3.5
floppy drive and 14.4k modem ,,, remember when we had to hike to the library to read a journal.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.359921

The art of Ferro technology after many years of modifications and revisions became the ferrolens.
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I was on about dialectic.

People here have done away with huge amounts of dollars and time with
things like asymmetric machines, bitoroid transformers and three battery
generators.
Whereas this thinog could be for real but I'm still searching for evidence
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The motor designers are hindered by using filings when of
course they should be using a ferrolens.
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The motor designers are hindered by using filings when of
course they should be using a ferrolens.
Motor designers use tools like this:


"Filings"? I don't think so!

I am interested to see:

1.) How the ferrocell could be applied to electromagnetic machine design.

2.) How the proposed theories of this "new magnetism" applies to electromagnetic machine design.

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Source of graphic: https://quickfield.com/advanced/dc_motor_simulation.htm
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Motor designers use tools like this:


"Filings"? I don't think so!

I am interested to see:

1.) How the ferrocell could be applied to electromagnetic machine design.

2.) How the proposed theories of this "new magnetism" applies to electromagnetic machine design.

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Source of graphic: https://quickfield.com/advanced/dc_motor_simulation.htm
Let me give you a first hand example of how a cell can be a better tool for visualizing fields than iron filings:

Many of you know I quit working with the cell in 2008 to work in the motor industry. Earlier, and during my tests of the cell over 4 years, I began to look at a magnetic field more like the cell portrayed. I too, grew up playing with iron filings and magnets and thought I understood how a motor should work.

But I began thinking of how unbalanced a typical electric motor is and how the dipole field is the most efficient.
So I developed a new type of DC PWM magnet motor based on dipole to dipole interaction (same as what's going on in our blood cells).
The beauty of my design (hate to brag) is using the dipole field.
I was able to rotate the electromagnetics (stators) 90 degrees and change motor geometry.

One of the biggest downfalls of conventional motors is the Lorentz force.
When you start up a motor, good old Lorentz SLAMS the rotor into one of the bearings (depending on rotation direction). If you start and stop the motor often enough, you will end up with a bad bearing.

And the new 90 deg offset allowed me to make the stators into MODULES.
Replaceable modules!
So now I have a smooth running, quiet motor with replaceable bearings and stators. How cool is that?

I won't go into any more details here but I know you're wondering "Well, where is your fantastic motor?" Save that for another topic and thread.

My point is: I wasn't able to open my mind to other magnetic configurations until I stared thru one of these cells for a couple of years.

Iron filings and computer generated FEMM stuff is looking at the same 200 year old view they always have.
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Very interesting dyetalon!

I didn't know about your motor designs!

Yes if you offset to 90 degrees the motor matching the field shown by the ferrocell then motor is working in synch with the magnetic field and should give you smoother and more efficient operation

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But I began thinking of how unbalanced a typical electric motor is and how the dipole field is the most efficient.
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One of the biggest downfalls of conventional motors is the Lorentz force.
When you start up a motor, good old Lorentz SLAMS the rotor into one of the bearings (depending on rotation direction). If you start and stop the motor often enough, you will end up with a bad bearing.
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Hi dyetalon,

Yes you mentioned your motor earlier and I took a quick read of the patent application documents.



In the typical motor, be it AC, DC, PM, wound field, brushless, or brush commutated, like the graphic, the Lorentz forces are tangential to the axis of rotation. There are no Lorentz forces acting in the axial direction.

All magnetic fields are dipole. It is impossible to get around the nature of the dipole magnetic field. So the motor shown above uses dipole fields and is balanced.

I would like to understand what you envision as the magnetic paths in your motor design and why you feel it is superior to that as shown above. Please realize that the FEMM shown above could apply to a brushless design by electronically committing the armature making it the stationary member (stator) and having the magnet assembly rotate (as the rotor) making it an out-runner type BLDC or synchronous ACPM motor.

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Hi dyetalon,

Yes you mentioned your motor earlier and I took a quick read of the patent application documents.



In the typical motor, be it AC, DC, PM, wound field, brushless, or brush commutated, like the graphic, the Lorentz forces are tangential to the axis of rotation. There are no Lorentz forces acting in the axial direction.

All magnetic fields are dipole. It is impossible to get around the nature of the dipole magnetic field. So the motor shown above uses dipole fields and is balanced.

I would like to understand what you envision as the magnetic paths in your motor design and why you feel it is superior to that as shown above. Please realize that the FEMM shown above could apply to a brushless design by electronically committing the armature making it the stationary member (stator) and having the magnet assembly rotate (as the rotor) making it an out-runner type BLDC or synchronous ACPM motor.

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Start another thread. This should be focused on the cell.
I'm not going to debate the pros and cons of typical vs. transverse motor design here.
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I've really enjoyed a bit of banter but I'm obviously not wanted so
I'll go for good.
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I've really enjoyed a bit of banter but I'm obviously not wanted so
I'll go for good.
Are you NUTS?

We're only getting started.
Take my advice and ignore the things that are distracting and focus on making your point. All this tension is polarizing everyone into a dielectric state !

Questions, Facts and discussions...ONLY
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A ferrohologram image




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Thank you Markoul the 3D image.
What is seen can be labeled with confidence and more optimism
that any relationships can be identified by those of us not having years of viewing experience.


Is it possible to point to a specific point ?
A picture of a microscope calibration slide. A transparent aperture. a pointer.
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1107Na...6cf7f1664e9e8a
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Ferrophoto / magnet field imrpint / magnagram



New video by Brian Kerr!

A holographic photo of the field of a ring magnet shown by the ferrocell.


WoW! impressive! you can clearly see the vortex structure specially where the ring magnet was located and the inner geometry hyperboloid. But most importantly when flipping on the other side you can SEE the two separated by the Bloch region magnetic bubbles, North and South pole!

You can even see the phase shift Ken is talking about in the two pole magnetic bubbles or fields. One is showing red and the other blue at point 1:59 of the video!!. Brian I don't know how you did that but it is a masterpiece. Bravo!
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Ken about Lines of Force on a magnet

New video of Ken explaining "lines of force" on a magnet


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New ferrohologram image



Read description on video.

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...and a ferroholo video

...and a ferroholo video for last:




... not that good as the still images.... I think it lacks light intensity.

Read the description for a guide in holo videos.
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There is no "BLOCH WALL"

there is no "BLOCK REGION"


All these are denotative of a CARTESIAN LOCUS

If there was something there, you could cut a magnet in half and have a NORTH pole half and SOUTH pole half


Nobody can understand magnetism without understanding the ancient Greek principle of Icommensurability OR knowing the REAL definition of POLARITY



You CANT GET THERE from here gerlfriend.
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WoW! His majesty himself!

Welcome to the thread Ken.

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Dare anyone to solve THIS IMAGE
https://ibb.co/hGq58J

HOW the HELL is it possible to have the SAME IMAGE on left and right????

cause on the right, in the center of the ring magnet, there IS NOTHING THERE



Soooooo HOW does 'NOTHING' have the SAME image as the side/"pole" of any other normal magnet.
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Dare anyone to solve THIS IMAGE
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HOW the HELL is it possible to have the SAME IMAGE on left and right????

cause on the right, in the center of the ring magnet, there IS NOTHING THERE



Soooooo HOW does 'NOTHING' have the SAME image as the side/"pole" of any other normal magnet.
That's what I've been saying all along...NOTHING, ZIP, NADA

But thats a pole view. Everything is going around that black hole.
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