Energetic Forum  
Facebook Twitter Google+ Pinterest LinkedIn Delicious Digg Reddit WordPress StumbleUpon Tumblr Translate Addthis Aaron Murakami YouTube 2018 ENERGY CONFERENCE - ALL SEATS SOLD OUT!

2018 Energy Science & Technology Conference
Sponsored by Teslacoin Foundation

Teslacoin Foundation

https://www.teslastarter.org


Go Back   Energetic Forum > >
   

General Discussion Other general discussions on topics not listed above.

* NEW * BEDINI RPX BOOK & DVD SET: BEDINI RPX

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #121  
Old 05-21-2018, 04:01 AM
mikrovolt mikrovolt is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 785
smaller short sentences.

This misunderstanding is simply a translation problem.
The (author) has a website. He is a swiss guy named Pascal.
He posts pictures of magnetic analysis.
He likes dynamic toroid conversion in biological systems.
His field is immunology pharmaceutical research.

Because nano ferro fluid is used in a variety of medical science (squid, spion, hall quantum)
Also like drug delivery and imaging ect His platform comes from
application specific to Imunology however he also has interest in
astrophysics, chemistry, geometry and a few other sciences.

The image models hinted possibly Magnetic Immunoassays Technology.
Nature of Organic Chemistry being very complex well respected, A matcher
for nerve research. Guess that the other magneto optical guy's priority level is too high.
Thanks good try
__________________
 

Last edited by mikrovolt; 05-21-2018 at 04:11 AM.
Reply With Quote

Download SOLAR SECRETS by Peter Lindemann
Free - Get it now: Solar Secrets

  #122  
Old 05-21-2018, 06:27 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
img006.jpg

Come on somebody have a go at describing this in terms of what a ferro lens would
"see"
Or, what would the Earth look like in a ferro lens view?
What will the modern description help us to do?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg img006.jpg (91.4 KB, 10 views)
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 05-21-2018, 10:02 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
Iím an old grandpa and I work away nearly all day every day but itís mostly
physical labour so I have spare brain capacity. I just love thinking of these
sort of problems.
Iíve come to the conclusion that there must be a relationship between
grandpa fields and ferri lens fields.
I think that the single light source and lens gives the best feel for whatís going
on. Timmís photo of the sideways magnet showing something happening in the
middle (Bloch wall?) is quite convincing.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #124  
Old 05-22-2018, 12:12 AM
mikrovolt mikrovolt is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 785
Mr. Nutz

Magnetism plays a fundamental role and is not completely understood.
There are thousands of theories, you can assign value to them, this is why I am here to collect. The emotional content is distractive unfortunately
it is the only motivation for some.

The magnetic force lines have been credited for bringing forward the era of dynamos of the electrical power system. The energetic forum has other alternative theories. One popular theory is where power comes from an open system.

( my opinion about what is being seen )
Since the paramagnetic realm does coexist you can assign value to it.
It seems logical and dignified to call it the paramagnetic field and leave the magnetic field alone. Even better to use the paramagnetic field as well as the Faraday magnetic force lines are doing. They cannot instead they disrupt ( strong assertions ) premature claims quotations and borrowed mimicry.

There are extremist that say that the prior art is completely wrong. Erase your minds, follow the narrative berate the founders
they try to explain and make claims based on new observations as absolute proof in the process as mental giants they attack you,
ignore you, make noise and reconfigure the bells and whistles, stealing good work along the way.

Here is the truth.
A field is shown by the ferrolens.
The same field is not visable with iron powder.
Both fields are valid with respect to the type of indicator used.
We travel around space on a planet that uses both.
__________________
 

Last edited by mikrovolt; 05-22-2018 at 12:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #125  
Old 05-22-2018, 11:01 AM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1526985865

To me this thing resembles a jigsaw puzzle. I have a choice of two pictures and
they both could be correct. People scattered around the world have some pieces
which may or may not fit one of the pictures. My task is to collect pieces and
decide where they go,if anywhere.
In a ferrilens the particles are ordering themselves to make a light pipe so I
need to know how these clumps arrange themselves in a grandpa field.
The clumps obviously respond to a grandpa field in an orderly way otherwise
nothing would happen.
In these two pictures itís interesting to see the clumping effect which the
surfactant imparts.
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg 50989A36-A37C-4E4B-BF65-7E2014ED42C5.jpeg (269.8 KB, 6 views)
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #126  
Old 05-22-2018, 12:37 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1526992562

I feel Iím learning bit by bit.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg FD5F24DF-DCA0-40B4-9346-BF05F01BA09F.jpg (135.2 KB, 7 views)
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #127  
Old 05-22-2018, 01:19 PM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamnuts View Post
The nanoparticles fall into the Rayleigh Scattering category without a magnetic field (nm length) That's the orange-ish color the cell naturally is.

When a field is applied, the particles form chains (um length) in the regions where the lowest potential is. Now we see Geometric scattering as 'flux bands' within the Rayleigh.

Kinda like the trail a jet makes high up in the atmosphere on a cold day.
Read about it here:
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/acmp/2017/2583717/

Yep, you nailed it, Iamnuts
__________________
 

Last edited by dyetalon; 05-22-2018 at 03:41 PM. Reason: made a mistake earlier. no Mie scattering when the particles make long chains. More coffee solved that problem :>
Reply With Quote
  #128  
Old 05-22-2018, 03:22 PM
bistander bistander is online now
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,343
Coincidence

Quote:
Originally Posted by Markoul View Post
Guys,

I just accidentally have found that the ferrocell has his own Wikipedia page!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrolens
...
EM
Looks like it was written by Markoulw on 14 March 2018.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #129  
Old 05-22-2018, 05:55 PM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamnuts View Post
img006.jpg

Come on somebody have a go at describing this in terms of what a ferro lens would
"see"
Or, what would the Earth look like in a ferro lens view?
What will the modern description help us to do?
I couldn't post this link until today, when he released it to public view.
Look familiar?



Dr. Tufaile will be presenting this paper at the Chaos Conference 2018 in Rome next month:
https://pt.slideshare.net/albertotuf...ce=ssslideview
Attached Images
File Type: png spiral1.png (34.4 KB, 39 views)
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #130  
Old 05-22-2018, 08:51 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
Thank you.
I had a look at some of those things and maybe your cell is working
like a rainbow.
People who have made big cells do get complete circles,which after all
a rainbow would be if you could see it all.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #131  
Old 05-22-2018, 10:01 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1527026281

Sorry,the rainbow was a bit of a wind-up.
This image is quite convincing,I think.
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg D39B59B9-58D1-4F3C-B750-C59B07424684.jpeg (9.1 KB, 29 views)
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #132  
Old 05-23-2018, 01:23 AM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 308
Message to you all by Mike

Message to you all by Mike

__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST
Reply With Quote
  #133  
Old 05-23-2018, 02:04 AM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 134
[QUOTE=Markoul;310506]Message to you all by Mike

WOW

What a great way to separate the larger particles from the smaller ones!
It beats the hell out of what I've been trying to do. Buying 5nm particles and mixing my own is a lot of work, plus EVERYTHING has to be PERFECT.
I still haven't got it right.

So cool. What an experimenter extraordinaire !
Hail Mike
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #134  
Old 05-23-2018, 04:50 AM
mikrovolt mikrovolt is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 785
Thanks Markoul,
practical, beneficial for optical performance.

The chip magnetophoresis very graceful movement
https://youtu.be/JJ8D-aR_JOw
__________________
 

Last edited by mikrovolt; 05-23-2018 at 05:35 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #135  
Old 05-23-2018, 10:58 AM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
I keep trying to get a bit further.
What I seem to have found is that there are no photons (virtual?) until
you move your magnet about.
This starts to make sense as photons are packets of energy and a magnet
does no work. Therefore you are suppling energy via movement to make
the photons.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #136  
Old 05-23-2018, 11:24 AM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...1&d=1527073986

You seem to be able to make any pattern you like which is rather discouraging.
I seem to think that probably the most informative part of the image is the
little area round the central brown area and all the curved lines are a distraction.
Itís the photons from the lights that is supplying energy to the system.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg F2BE8F35-A873-4F73-BB93-A13751138147.jpg (141.4 KB, 3 views)
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #137  
Old 05-23-2018, 01:06 PM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamnuts View Post
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...3751138147-jpg

You seem to be able to make any pattern you like which is rather discouraging.
I seem to think that probably the most informative part of the image is the
little area round the central brown area and all the curved lines are a distraction.
Itís the photons from the lights that is supplying energy to the system.

Look this is not a tutorial forum. This is a brainstorming session and frankly you are superfluous.

Your observations are wrong and so are your conclusions which have nothing to do with reality.

You took this picture when Mike placed the ferrocell under a Halbach ring array.

https://www.gyroscope.com/d.asp?product=CIRCULARHALBACH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-9IAj_YnI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbach_array



EM
__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST
Reply With Quote
  #138  
Old 05-23-2018, 01:13 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
Current Attachments (324.8 KB)
jpeg.gif 8FCB89A2-D17D-433D-BB42-FAD97E32A87F.jpeg (324.8 KB)
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg 8FCB89A2-D17D-433D-BB42-FAD97E32A87F.jpeg (324.8 KB, 7 views)
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #139  
Old 05-23-2018, 01:44 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
What is being portrayed by these cells are obviously equipotential lines.
All the curves are probably rainbow effect refraction.
I always thought the magnetic field was made by virtual photons but
I was wrong, there is no work going on other than that you put there.
This thing has gone on for years and still doesnít seem to have universal
acceptance.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #140  
Old 05-23-2018, 02:04 PM
bistander bistander is online now
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,343
Who's steering this thread?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Markoul View Post
Look this is not a tutorial forum. This is a brainstorming session and frankly you are superfluous.
...
Hey Markoul,

Did the OP, dyetalon, put you in charge? It appears to me that he invited all related comments. See post one below.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dyetalon View Post
...
I'm moving the ferrocell discussion here, away from Ken's thread because it's kinda off topic.

Questions, Queries, Posers, Comments?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markoul View Post
...
Your observations are wrong and so are your conclusions which have nothing to do with reality.
...
Actually I think this is true of your observations and conclusions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Markoul View Post
...
You took this picture when Mike placed the ferrocell under a Halbach ring array.
...
So what?

You like to bully those with whom you disagree, don't you?

bi
__________________
 

Last edited by bistander; 05-23-2018 at 02:07 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #141  
Old 05-23-2018, 02:34 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
Markoul,
Look up Dialectic it’s from the Greek.
__________________
 

Last edited by Iamnuts; 05-23-2018 at 02:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #142  
Old 05-23-2018, 02:48 PM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamnuts View Post
Markoul,
Look up Dialectec itís from the Greek.
you mean 'dielectric', right?
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #143  
Old 05-23-2018, 02:53 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
Sorry Dialectic.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #144  
Old 05-23-2018, 03:01 PM
dyetalon's Avatar
dyetalon dyetalon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamnuts View Post
Sorry Dialectic.
Yep. Thanks.
I love to learn new stuff.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #145  
Old 05-23-2018, 03:46 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
I'm an old man now and I had to give up motoring so this gives me a great
deal of pleasure. This year the weather has meant I've had the most grueling
winter on the farm and I don't have anyone to talk to all day but I am still
able to do a bit of thinking.
I just absolutely love the ability to communicate that has been afforded us
by the technology. Newton Faraday Maxwell Heaviside and countless more
dedicated people have got us here and I have the greatest respect for all of them.
I'm all up for the latest developments but take exception to the old stuff being
rubbished.
John.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #146  
Old 05-23-2018, 05:27 PM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 308
Quote:
So what?

You like to bully those with whom you disagree, don't you?

bi
We are not here to disagree about the ferrocell. This not what this thread is for. If any one does, at least have the dignity to leave this thread. There is no point of continuously disagreeing with whatever it is said here. And try to prove that the ferrocell is not showing magnetism but something imaginary.

This is here a R&D discussion for the ferrocell by ferrocell makers, inventors, serious researchers and users actually using the ferrocell which like to contribute and share ideas and empirical data for improvement.

You and the others come here in Ufopolitcs thread and now in this thread here daily contributing nothing and frankly just trolling the discussion. My opinion.

Most of you don't even used a ferrocell ever or posses one and looked to it for real.

However, you appear to have an expert opinion on the ferrocell operation! How can anyone take you seriously...


So you are the real bullies here, everyday bullying the discussion.

I told you in the past normal gentelman behaviour dictates you make your points clear in 2 or 3 posts why you disaggreing and then agree that you disaggre and really no point staying here any longer.

In a nutshell this thread here in not about disproving the ferrocell.

Have a nice day,

EM
__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST

Last edited by Markoul; 05-23-2018 at 05:32 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #147  
Old 05-23-2018, 05:51 PM
Markoul's Avatar
Markoul Markoul is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 308
Almost a hologram projection

Latest video from Brian:




Notice the two separate fields on the poles and not even a single flux line showing to face the other pole...


EM

p.s. Brian Kerr is continiously trying to get into the discussion here but the forum keeps telling him, he has no permission!... what's going on here?
__________________
MSc. Electronic and Computer Engineering, TUC, Greece
MSc. VLSI Systems Engineering, UMIST, U.K.
BSc. Electronic Systems Engineering, Victoria Univ. Manchester & UMIST
Reply With Quote
  #148  
Old 05-23-2018, 06:04 PM
bistander bistander is online now
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,343
Thanks, I will have a nice day. Same to you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Markoul View Post
We are not here to disagree about the ferrocell. This not what this thread is for. If any one does, at least have the dignity to leave this thread. There is no point of continuously disagreeing with whatever it is said here. And try to prove that the ferrocell is not showing magnetism but something imaginary.

This is here a R&D discussion for the ferrocell by ferrocell makers, inventors, serious researchers and users actually using the ferrocell which like to contribute and share ideas and empirical data for improvement.

You and the others come here in Ufopolitcs thread and now in this thread here daily contributing nothing and frankly just trolling the discussion. My opinion.

Most of you don't even used a ferrocell ever or posses one and looked to it for real.

However, you appear to have an expert opinion on the ferrocell operation! How can anyone take you seriously...


So you are the real bullies here, everyday bullying the discussion.

I told you in the past normal gentelman behaviour dictates you make your points clear in 2 or 3 posts why you disaggreing and then agree that you disaggre and really no point staying here any longer.

In a nutshell this thread here in not about disproving the ferrocell.

Have a nice day,

EM
BTW Markoul, I am an inventor, as listed on a number of US patents, and a serious researcher, or so taken by more than a few. But that is off topic. No one is required to provide resume. The words posted stand for themselves. Facts and truths exist and will prevail regardless of the author.

I am not anti-ferrocell. I favor any instrument or technology that can help us. I simply disagree with your statements, and many of those from Ufo.

And I may even have a ferrocell. You don't know. Let's end the personal conversation and get back on topic.

bi

Regards
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #149  
Old 05-23-2018, 06:28 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/acmp/2017/2583717/

Found this.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
  #150  
Old 05-23-2018, 06:39 PM
Iamnuts Iamnuts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 219
Came across the word anisotropic and Cotton Mouton effect.
In that article it made a reference to the effect of ferrolens being
used as a demonstration of solar wind for students.
So I have found an educational aspect.
Thank you.
__________________
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
discussion, ferrocell, kens, posers, thread, ferrolens

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Please consider supporting Energetic Forum with a voluntary monthly subscription.

For One-Time Donations, use admin@ this domain > energeticforum.com

Choose your voluntary subscription

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v1.4.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
2007-2015 Copyright - Energetic Forum - All Rights Reserved

Bedini RPX Sideband Generator

Tesla Chargers