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Old 11-08-2018, 03:19 PM
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Awsome link John ! A ferrocell using olive oil and electromagnet It shows magnetism can control toroidal spin precession of light

Ey Emmanouil, could i have the honor of being coauthor of your paper? Since you intend to use my graphical illustrations in your upcoming paper I so much want to be part of history when humanity discoveres the secrets the ferrocell is showing us ;D
Just found it by coincident.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile...tCEmmanoui.pdf
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:18 PM
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Awsome link John ! A ferrocell using olive oil and electromagnet It shows magnetism can control toroidal spin precession of light

Ey Emmanouil, could i have the honor of being coauthor of your paper? Since you intend to use my graphical illustrations in your upcoming paper I so much want to be part of history when humanity discoveres the secrets the ferrocell is showing us ;D
Just found it by coincident.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile...tCEmmanoui.pdf
Hi Self,

The link doesn't work for me on two different devices. Is it this?

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...etic_Ferrolens

Hope that works.

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Old 11-13-2018, 03:08 PM
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First build

I got a little bench time yesterday. I had cut window glass down to 6 x 6" squares. So went ahead and diluted some ferrofluid and squeezed it between two panes. Result.



Not great. But actually does work. My light sorces suck. And best camera I own is my phone. So no attempt to photograph patterns at this stage.

In the photo you can see the small cell, 1 x 3" specimen slide. It worked as well but has dried out in a couple of weeks. No matter. I only have like 30¢ materials in it.

Just an f.y.i. for those interested. I am not getting good holographic effects but am able to see the lines of light follow the magnet. They are very dependent on the light source. I think I'll borrow my cat's lazer pointer and see how it behaves.

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Old 11-24-2018, 09:28 PM
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Lines.

The field lines that we see in our textbooks for electric and magnetic fields are only mathematical constructs to help us understand and clarify the effects more easily. We can say more accurately that there is such a thing as a transformed electromagnetic field with a new magnitude and direction. Einstein's special relativity and Lorentz transformation make this view possible.
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Old 12-13-2018, 09:03 PM
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Current vs future



Top right: current understanding of permanent magnetic field symmetry
Top left and bottom, unexplained permanent magnetic field symmetry.

Ferroliquid and ferrocell together reveal the real 3-D EM-field symmetry. Magnitudes higher in complexity to what iron filings were able to teach us.

In a unified physics, there can only be one thing, which in our case, is electromagnetic vibration, creating symmetry, not fully understood.
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:31 PM
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Pic.

Hi Self,
the top right image appears to be an overlay of the bottom left.
Do you know how top left has been constructed?
Thank you John.
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Old 12-14-2018, 06:07 AM
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Well, top right is solid and bottom left is liquid as visualizing material, so not the same.
Top left is created by myself by overlaying the two bottom images ferrocell and ferroliquid, which pretty much show the high grade of complexity the 3-D field geometry of permanent magnetic field.

Both images on the bottom show geometric phenomena currently unexplained. To me, it is obvious that we think permanent magnetic field is spherical, but that is just not sufficient in regards of details. There is much more to the spherical shape, such as vibration pattern, oppopsed spins, toroidal symmetry and standing waves.
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That's not the ****ing Lorentz force
This was his last post. Also noticed his signature no longer appears on any of his posts. It is still up on his user CP.

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Hi to All...and farewell

Hi,

In case you missed me. I've decided to leave at the present the forum since I feel I have completed my cycle here. Sorry for not saying goodbye.

I wish you all the best in your research endeavors. It was fun and productive communicating with you guys.

Kind Regards,

Emmanouil
p.s. If there is something groundbreaking to report I will reappear here in the future.
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My tests and observations have shown 'A' to be correct.
They align parallel to the applied field, but can 'migrate' in clusters depending on the direction of the Lorentz force.
Hi, I've been lurking for awhile waiting to get approved.
I've definitely come to the right place!

Anyway, I wanted to bring up this issue of alignment of the ferrofluid strands, because it is crucial. Although I have seen several demonstrations with microscopes, I still have my doubts.
Do the strands align towards poles, similar to iron filings? Or do they align at 90 degrees as to circle the poles? Or to they orient in a different angle?
And how could one prove this to a skeptic? Has anyone addressed this in a research paper?

Thanks! - Eric
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Old 03-29-2019, 12:33 AM
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Two more questions:

Is Mike Palazolla the inventor of the ferrocell?

Who has authored papers on the ferrocell?





Thanks again.

For anyone who is curious, my name is Eric Sabin and I'm studying fields. I'm interested in learning about the ferrocell because it contradicts the contemporary (lack of) knowledge about fields. What it actually means is up for debate. This is where the debate is starting. I'm sure more people will eventually take notice. I don't have a huge background in electronics; the reason for my interest mostly has to do with understanding the nature of being. (Ken knows what I'm talking about!)
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Two more questions:

Is Mike Palazolla the inventor of the ferrocell?

Who has authored papers on the ferrocell?

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Hi Eric,

I recall reading and referencing a number of papers. I think you'll find much of what you seek by reviewing this thread and ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

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{edit} Inventor is, I think, thread op, dyetalon, aka Timm.
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Old 03-30-2019, 08:11 PM
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Thanks.
The papers mentioned so far:

Dyetalon.
Light Polarization Using Ferrofluids and Magnetic Fields


Magneto-optical Kerr effect in resonant subwavelength nanowire gratings

Markoul.
The quantum field of a magnet shown by a nanomagnetic ferrolens


Magnetic Charge Theory—The Unification of Gravity with Electricity and Magnetism

Magnetically Controlled Reflection of a Ferrofluid Cell
by Michael Snyder

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Is there anything important I've overlooked?

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As for the orientation of the strands:

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Timm,

Watch here at that point of the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0vFWo4BLM8&t=123s

When he repositioned the magnet so that light could freely hit the microscope slide at the exact moment the field was induced and chains got polarized they turn into full reflection mode and became ****ing bright!!

This is the proof i was seeking, the light lines we see on the glass surface of the ferrocell are generated by the reflective polarized nanoparticle chains and the lines of light of the glass surface coincide spatially with the chains beneath inside the thin film!!

Case closed, the image we see in the ferrocell is not some kind of light interference phenomena or effect but 100% produced and controlled accordingly by the induced external magnetic field.

This is for some here in this thread telling that ferrocell is not showing the magnetic field of a magnet but is just some play of light.

No. Lines of light shown by the ferrocell are coinciding 100% with magnetic lines. Period.

As Mike said in his video:

"The polarized nano chains are creating a light defraction grid"

EM
I honestly don't see the strands being illuminated, and even if they were, it wouldn't necessarily mean that the lines you see with the naked eye are oriented in the same direction as the strands. I'm not saying they don't, but there should be more proof.
If I had a microscope, I would place tape across the top of the ferrocell, horizontally, so that the edge of the tape is in frame. The square or rectangular magnet would be oriented in a way that the tape represents the orientation of the magnet. This way, one could see the orientation of the strands in comparison to the tape/magnet. Compare this magnified image to what is seen with the naked eye.
If I wanted to prove it to someone else, I would do this.
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Old 03-30-2019, 09:48 PM
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oops, missed a link. Don't mind me, I just like having info easily available


Magnetically Controlled Reflection of a Ferrofluid Cell


(From this I see now that Timm filed the patent)
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Old 04-14-2019, 12:22 AM
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There is a range of logarithmic spirals.
Which one does the ferrocell represent?
More importantly, why does the ferrocell show spirals?
Is this a new force, different than magnetic or electric?
Could there be more forces, represented by different angles?

I'd like to hear what your answers are
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:14 PM
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The solution is MONISM and STEREOGRAPHIC PROJECTION.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IX_oe5Mf58&t=1s

I figured this out a year ago. Am I wrong?
I want to bounce these ideas off of people who care about the subject.
The people here are the only people in the world who care enough about it to study it and discuss it.

Publishing ideas regarding this subject will not get you anywhere because academia is a dogmatic religion of atomism and it has been engineered that way. I have tried. The only thing that will attract attention is if something tangible is built that can make people money. Unfortunately.

If anyone sees this and wants to discuss this, please email me at ericexoterick@gmail.com
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