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Old 06-14-2018, 09:51 PM
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Ferrocell Decipher Quiz!

In order to decipher why we see what we see in a ferrocell I am starting a series of quiz questions.

You are welcome to contribute with your explanations. The winner coming with the best explanation will win a one night stand with the Mother****er previously presented in this thread here.

Quiz Question 1:

Why a ring magnet under the ferrocell does not show a field inside (pole view) fig.1 ring magnet under the ferrocell?




But when a ring magnet is placed above the ferrocell the field inside the ring shows up? Why is that? Fig.2




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I've put a ring magnet inside water!!...




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In order to decipher why we see what we see in a ferrocell I am starting a series of quiz questions.

You are welcome to contribute with your explanations. The winner coming with the best explanation will win a one night stand with the Mother****er previously presented in this thread here.

Quiz Question 1:

Why a ring magnet under the ferrocell does not show a field inside (pole view) fig.1 ring magnet under the ferrocell?
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thats not true, ive got TOOOOOONS of images of a ring magnet UNDER the ferrocell shows the field INSIDE the ring.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjRAO6xF...ryphotographer

such as<<<

https://www.flickr.com/photos/134746...in/dateposted/







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are you using a side lit or under lit ferrocell ?
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:48 PM
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:21 AM
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The Answer to Quiz 1

Bravo!! mikroVolt!

You correctly have answered the Quiz question 1!!

Please contact me to make arrangements for your PRIZE!


The answer to this Quiz:



Stack of ring ferrites bellow the neodymium ring...thats a strong mother****er!
The *ASS***hole is opened wide open so you just see the void and not the hole's rim


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Ferrocell Quiz Question no. 2

In Brian's amazing video here:



We can can see the torus field of the loudspeaker (pole view) on its entirety and confined without spreading out in space as we have with cube magnets, disk magnets, cylindrical magnets and other shapes (when in contact with the ferrocell) except the ring magnet.

Why is that?

Why we can see the same field in the loudspeaker as we see in a ring magnet on Brian's demonstration?

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In Brian's amazing video here:



We can can see the torus field of the loudspeaker (pole view) on its entirety and confined without spreading out in space as we have with cube magnets, disk magnets, cylindrical magnets and other shapes (when in contact with the ferrocell) except the ring magnet.

Why is that?

Why we can see the same field in the loudspeaker as we see in a ring magnet on Brian's demonstration?

EM
You answered your own question. Confined is the key word here. The steel pole in the center of the magnet is where the voice coil is normally located.
There is a millimeter gap between the magnet and steel pole.
It's called a focused gap, and designed to maximize the field for activating the voice coil.
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Bloch axis is not a force line (read description of video)




Bloch axis is not a force line as I mistakenly mention inside my video but actually a void separating the two polar toroidal vortices at either side of a magnet meeting at the middle of the magnet where the domain wall is located.

Again it is not exactly a wall but a void isolating the one polar field from other.

You can clearly see in the video and the above thumbnail, the two polar fields are not in contact with each other but separated and their force lines (flux) are diverging from each other. It is not a joining point but a barrier.

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You answered your own question. Confined is the key word here. The steel pole in the center of the magnet is where the voice coil is normally located.
There is a millimeter gap between the magnet and steel pole.
It's called a focused gap, and designed to maximize the field for activating the voice coil.


No, that is not the correct answer


... the cap shielding may help but is not the definitive cause.
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Both Polar fields of a magnet shown by the Ferrocell (ferrolens) simultaneously

Both Polar fields of a magnet shown by the Ferrocell (ferrolens) simultaneously




There are no any reciprocating lines from one pole to the other. It is just the fact that ferrolens is totally transparent to magnetism and picks up both of the two polar fields of a magnet at the same time and space.


Both fields poles of the two poles of the cube magnet are magnetically projected onto the ferrocell surface as one holographic overlapping image of the two fields on the poles.

Whenever second lighting is turned on you can see the first set of lines belonging to the top pole overlapping and on top of the second set of lines belonging to the other pole of the magnet the bottom pole.


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My magnet is getting "Blue Balls" !

My magnet is getting "Blue Balls" !

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...m=Blue%20Balls







A closer look at the magnet side field view.

Concentrating on the two black polar holes but this time with the help of a second LED light strip 1.5 cm below the first one placed on the rim of the ferrocell.

When we turn on the second light strip we see a blueish - purple rim on each polar hole which we could not previously see...watch!


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Answer the F*CK*NG Quiz QUESTION?

common guys you can do better than that?!


about the Ferrocell (ferrolens)


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No, that is not the correct answer


... the cap shielding may help but is not the definitive cause.
Go back and double check your references. Especially speaker design.
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A more detailed explanation and answer of the Ferrocell Quiz no. 2 and a proposal

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In Brian's amazing video here:



We can can see the torus field of the loudspeaker (pole view) on its entirety and confined without spreading out in space as we have with cube magnets, disk magnets, cylindrical magnets and other shapes (when in contact with the ferrocell) except the ring magnet.

Why is that?

Why we can see the same field in the loudspeaker as we see in a ring magnet on Brian's demonstration?

EM
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A more detailed explanation and answer of the Ferrocell Quiz no. 2 and a proposal for better ferrocell viewing of magnetic fields

Magnetic fields are holographic and fractal in nature. The same magnetic pattern repeats over and over in space, like an onion until it fills all the 3D space up to the radius of influence of the magnet. The field shows up in the ferrocell wherever there is light. The field shows in its entirety like a torus inside the ring because it is magnetically confined inside the ring magnet's inner hole surface. At the same time the outer ring surface of the magnet emanates in space the same field geometrical pattern as the inner ring but because it is not magnetically confined the field spreads out all the way up to the LED strip.

If you could put a ring magnet inside a larger ring magnet at the center without the two magnets in contact you would propably see the same pattern repeat or as a single large torus, you should propably experiment that one . This should actually work with any shape of magnet. Put for example a disk (no hole at the center) magnet inside a larger ring magnet without these two in contact. The field inside should be confined and show up like a single torus. You also could use instead of large ring magnet to confine the field, Mumetal casing to put inside a magnet under observation (i.e. use a loudspeaker magnet metal casing its made out of mumetal) but be careful your magnet strength not to exceed the saturation level of the mumetal which is 760 mT otherwise the field will again leak out.

Answer to the Quiz question no.2:

We can see the torus field on its entirety in the ferrocell because loudspeaker magnets are actually ring magnets. So you actually see the inner field of a ring magnet! Additionally, the field is further confined by the loudspeaker Mumetal casing.



Fig.1

Note: Of course you have to put also a lid on top with the magnet inside centered and then place the whole thing under the ferrocell, a sensitive ferrocell would still pickup the field inside but it will show up more confined and therefore geometry of the field will be more clearly demonstrated by the ferrocell I believe.

Mumetal magnetic shielding info:

Magnetic Shielding | How Does It Work?


Proposed addition (more like an accessory) to the ferrocell for more confined field views:

Use a large loudspeaker magnet (ring magnet without metal casing). Put the loudspeaker magnet at the perimeter of the ferrocell before the LED light strip to confine the magnetic fields of magnets put at the center of the ferrocell.

or,

Put the magnets under observation, inside a Mumental case fig.1 for magnetic shielding and confinement... cup must be painted black.


I propose everyone experiment with the above proposed... and BTW did anyone tried before to show the field with a ring magnet inside a ring magnet? This would be hard because repulsion, magnets must be forced to. Maybe it would be better to use instead two ring magnets, a larger and and smaller fit together, with radial and not axial or diagonal magnetized ring magnets, although i know is very hard to get these m**therf*ckers...

Radial Oriented Ring Magnets China Manufacturer


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p.s. Now where i think of it... just put the ferrocell with the light LED strip, on top of the open cup of Fig.1 above.

As long as diameter of ferrocell is larger than this of the shielding cup, it should work fine!
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Now where i think of it... just put the ferrocell with the light LED strip, on top of the open cup pf Fig.1 above.

As long as diameter of ferrocell is larger than this of the shielding cup, it should work fine!

EM

I name my proposed modification to the ferrocell...

not a supercell but a MARKOULOCELL!...HAHAHAHAHA!
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