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Old 09-29-2016, 10:59 AM
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Why the Quran is
Not from Allah:
10 Reasons

Timeless... unchangeable... perfect?
Mmm... maybe not.

The Quran makes a lot of claims about itself. It says that it is the perfect and incorruptible revelation of God to man, and that it is so important that it has existed eternally on tablets in heaven.

Critics claim that it is a badly-arranged collection of quotations from one man, passed off as the word of God to a gullible audience in a primitive society. When accused of being a madman, for example, Muhammad would go into his tent and then emerge with a pearl 'from Allah' like, “You (Muhammad) are not a madman” (68:2). The people would then take this as proof that he was not.

Some Muslims say that the Quran would not be believed by so many today if it were not true. But belief does not make truth – particularly when it has to be shamelessly enforced with discrimination, maiming and death.

In fact, most Muslims have never read the Quran, a book they (nonetheless) are willing to kill and die over. Their conviction is based on what they hear from other Muslims, particularly as they are growing up.

An objective reader would almost certainly conclude that the Quran is less a product of divine origin than Muhammad’s imagination and the circumstances in which he found himself.

Here are ten quick examples:


Verse 27:91 reads “For me, I have been commanded to serve the Lord of this city.” If these are the words of Allah, then it would mean that someone is ‘commanding’ him to serve another god. The verse only makes sense if Muhammad is speaking from his own perspective.

(This would also explain why “Allah” takes an oath to Allah in no fewer than seven other verses).


Verse 5:3 says that the Islamic religion was “perfected” and “completed” on “this day”, yet 249 more verses follow it, including two additional Suras (9 and 110).

Also, how could the Quran be eternal if there was a time when it was not completed?


So much of the Quran is devoted to redundant claims and threats about Muhammad’s status as a prophet, yet there is not a single original moral value. Nowhere does it tell men not to rape women or refrain from sex with children. In fact, it gives men permission to rape their slaves and implies that sex with children is permissible (verse 65:4).

Wouldn’t a perfect book teach perfect morality?


Despite being a relatively small book, the Quran contains unnecessary repitition. Moses is mentioned 136 times. Some passages of misquoted Bible stories are nearly word-for-word identical (eg. Suras 20 & 26).

Why would God waste space saying essentially the same thing about something obscure when he could have offered clear moral principles about peace, tolerance (or sex with children)?


The Quran confuses Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary the sister of Aaron (and Moses) in Sura 19.

Despite tortured apologetics, the simplest and most obvious explanation is that Muhammad was mistaken. This would also explain why the Quran that he narrated erroneously states that Christians worship the Virgin Mary as a god (5:75, 5:116) when they never have.


The Quran tells Muslim men that they may have sex with women captured as slaves. Even worse: the passage is repeated in four different places. By contrast, there is not a single verse that tells Muslims that they are to pray five times a day.


The Quran says that it is “clear”, but then says elsewhere (3:7) that only Allah understands the meaning of some verses (which begs the question of why they are there). It says that it explains "all things" (16:89), but then tells Muslims to follow the example of Muhammad (33:21) - without saying what that is.

In practical terms, it is impossible to understand the Quran without references to external sources such as the Hadith and Sira (usually laid out in voluminous footnotes). Yet these sources are often contradictory and almost never agreed on.

Even in the Quran, devout Muslim scholars infer dramatically different meanings from the same verses. For example, most interpretations of 38:33 say that Solomon slashed at his own horses, severing their legs and necks. However, some contemporary translators, including one of the most respected (Yusuf Ali) say that Solomon really just passed his hand over their bodies in a loving way.

More alarming (and unfortunately more typical) are verses like 5:33, which mandates crucifying those who "wage war on Allah"... without really explaining what this means.


Unlike the Old Testament prophets, Muhammad narrated petty defenses of his claim as a prophet (and even his own sanity) that are remarkably redundant.

For example, no fewer than 8 passages (83:13, 27:68, 46:17, 16:24, 6:25, 26:137, 25:5 and 23:83) say that "Allah's messenger" is accused of repeating “tales of the ancients,” but that anyone who doesn’t believe him will burn in Hell. Why wouldn’t Allah just say it once and then use the remaining space for something more edifying?

Isn’t this more of what one would expect from an overly-defensive poseur than from an eternal revelation of God to man?


The Quran says that written copies of the Bible (Torah and Gospel) existed at the time of Muhammad (29:46, 3:3, 3:78) and a great many verses "confirm" that those copies are true (even if the Jews and Christians were later accused of misinterpreting them "with their tongues"). Parts of the Quran obviously rely on the Bible for completeness and many verses insist that the Word of God cannot be changed or corrupted.

Here's the problem:

There are hundreds of New Testament manuscripts that pre-date the time of Muhammad, all discovered at different times and different places by different people. There are hundreds more of the Torah. All agree almost perfectly with the modern version of the Bible, which contradicts the Quran.

At the same time, not a single copy or fragment of either the Torah or Gospel from any era has ever been found which deviates in a way that agrees with the Quran.

How is that the "true" Bible - the one that supposedly confirms the Quran - never survived in any form, while so many "corrupted" copies did?

Isn't it more likely that Muhammad simply made it up as he went along and later accused Christians and Jews as a cover story for his own mistakes?


As mentioned, despite being a small book, the Quran is supposed to be the timeless, unchangeable word of God. Why would God use precious and valuable space on the personal life of one man - the same one who happens to be narrating the "revelation"?

Consider verse 33:53:
O you who believe! Enter not the Prophet's houses, except when leave is given to you for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation. But when you are invited, enter, and when you have taken your meal, disperse, without sitting for a talk. Verily, such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet, and he is shy of (asking) you (to go), but Allah is not shy of (telling you) the truth.
That has to be immortalized on a tablet in heaven?

Substantial portions of the Quran (particularly suras 33 and 66) are equally self-serving and address the sex, money or respect from his wives to which Muhammad is entitled. Moreover, several such passages are repetitive.

Couldn’t Allah have thought of a more important message for mankind than telling us (several times over) that Muhammad may sleep with an unlimited number of women?
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Old 09-29-2016, 11:42 AM
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List of Islamic Terror:
Last 30 Days

This is part of the list of Islamic terror attacks maintained by TheReligionofPeace.com.

During this time period, there were 154 Islamic attacks in 32 countries, in which 857 people were killed and 1244 injured.

(TROP does not catch all attacks. Not all attacks are immediately posted).

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2016.09.28 Egypt al-Arish 4 0 Islamic radicals spray three police sitting in a taxi with bullets along with the driver.
2016.09.27 Iraq Baghdad 8 29 Eight people are sent to Allah by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2016.09.26 Nigeria Boftari 1 0 A Christian man is tied up and slaughtered in front of his wife and four children.
2016.09.25 Iraq Baghdad 7 28 A Fedayeen suicide bomber blows himself up in a Shiite district, taking seven souls with him.
2016.09.24 Chad Djoroye 4 6 Four border guards are murdered by Boko Haram.
2016.09.23 Syria Inkhil 12 30 A Shahid suicide car bomber targets a ribbon-cutting ceremony, killing a dozen participants.
2016.09.23 India Priya Unnikrishnan 1 0 A Hindu man is hacked to death by a gang of Muslims.
2016.09.22 Cameroon Djakana 3 4 A Shahid suicide bomber kills four civilians.
2016.09.22 Iraq Mosul 6 0 Six civilians are burned alive by the Islamic State as their families are forced to watch.
2016.09.21 DRC Kasinga 10 2 Ten people are murdered by ADF Islamists.
2016.09.21 Iraq Mashada 2 4 Caliphate members kill two Iraqis with an IED.
2016.09.21 Iraq Mosul 6 3 Six boys are gruesomely executed with welding rods.
2016.09.21 Syria Aleppo 2 7 Two civilians are killed when terrorist pour rockets into a neighborhood.
2016.09.21 Somalia Mogadishu 3 4 Three others are killed when a suicide car bomber detonates along a city street.
2016.09.20 Iraq Hawija 1 22 An ISIS bomb takes out one member of a fleeing family.
2016.09.20 Iraq Jazaeir 1 0 A woman is stoned to death for having sex outside of marriage.
2016.09.20 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A young boy is taught to murder a prisoner on video.
2016.09.20 Syria Manbij 3 14 Three children are disassembled by an ISIS IED.
2016.09.20 Egypt Rafah 2 2 Fundamentalists kill two local security personnel in separate attacks.
2016.09.20 Syria Raqqa 12 0 A dozen people are beheaded by the caliphate.
2016.09.19 Nigeria Borno 2 2 Islamic extremists set fire to a village, then open fire on fleeing people, killing two.
2016.09.19 Syria Raqqa 1 0 A man is tied to a pole and cut through with a heavy machine-gun for 'rejecting Allah's way'.
2016.09.19 Nigeria Sanda 6 3 Six civilians are ambushed and murdered by Boko Haram.
2016.09.19 Iraq Yousifya 3 5 Three people at a grocery store are eliminated by Jihadi bombers.
2016.09.19 Israel Jerusalem 0 2 A female border guard is stabbed in the neck by a Palestinian terrorist.
2016.09.19 Iraq Mosul 5 0 Five Internet caf workers are dragged out and executed by the Islamic State.
2016.09.19 Nigeria Malam Fatori 40 0 Islamists ambush a convoy and kill forty troops.
2016.09.19 Nigeria Borno 2 0 A man and his son are beheaded by Sharia proponents.
2016.09.19 India Handwara 1 0 A local cop is murdered by Muslim terrorists.
2016.09.18 Nigeria Kwamjilari 8 0 Eight people standing outside a church are riddled with bullets by Muslim extremists.
2016.09.18 India Uri 18 19 Four suicide bombers sneak onto an army base and murder eighteen sleeping soldiers.
2016.09.18 Saudi Arabia Dammam 2 0 Two local cops are fatally shot by suspected Shiite extremists.
2016.09.18 Pakistan Mianwali 1 0 A Shiite teacher is murdered by a devoted Sunni student.
2016.09.18 Somalia Mogadishu 8 0 A suicide car bomber claims eight souls.
2016.09.18 Pakistan Peshawar 3 0 Islamists murder three people at a dairy farm for 'showing animosity with mosques.'
2016.09.18 Syria Tarif 5 0 Five civilians are kidnapped and brutally executed by the caliphate.
2016.09.18 Iraq Khazar 4 7 Three Fedayeen suicide bombers end the lives of four other people.
2016.09.18 Iraq Baghdad 4 21 Four people are blown to bits by two Mujahideen bomb blasts.
2016.09.17 USA NYC, NY 0 29 A former asylum seeker plants several explosives, one of which injures twenty-nine innocents.
2016.09.17 Thailand Songkhla 1 1 Muslim 'insurgents' murder a 71-year-old Buddhist in front of his home.
2016.09.17 Afghanistan Kapisa 4 5 Four people are neatly disassembled by Taliban bombers.
2016.09.17 CAR Ndomete 26 0 Over two dozen villagers are massacred by Muslim terrorists, who went door-to-door seeking Christians.
2016.09.17 USA St. Cloud, MN 0 8 A former refugee goes on a stabbing spree at a shopping mall while speaking of Allah and asking potential victims if they are Muslim.
2016.09.17 Somalia Hamiro 1 2 At least one other person is cut down by al-Shabaab gunfire.
2016.09.17 Iraq Anbar 1 0 A man is savagely beheaded by Muslim radicals.
2016.09.16 Iraq Baghdad 2 7 A bomb planted at a produce market yields two bodies
2016.09.16 Iraq Kirkuk 1 5 A child is taken out by a Jihad bomb blast on a rival mosque.
2016.09.16 Pakistan Batta Meena 36 45 Children are among three dozen worshippers blown to bits by a suicide bomber at a packed mosque.
2016.09.16 Israel Kiryat Arba 0 3 Three teens are run down by a Palestinian driver.
2016.09.16 Somalia Baardheere 7 0 Seven local troops are ambushed and killed by al-Shabaab.
2016.09.15 Iraq Baghdad 4 10 Two bomb blasts produce four dead Iraqis.
2016.09.15 Iraq Sharqat 2 0 A woman and her son are murdered in cold blood by the Islamic State.
2016.09.15 Pakistan Mian Channu 2 0 Two adulterers are tortured and hanged.
2016.09.15 Israel Jerusalem 1 0 A man honor kills his own mother with six shots to the head for 'misbehaving'.
2016.09.14 Iraq al-Rashad 4 0 A married couple and their two children are exterminated by Mujahideen gunmen.
2016.09.14 Iraq Tarmiya 2 8 Two people at a market are sectionalized by Religionof Peace bombers.
2016.09.14 Iraq Sharqat 4 0 Four children are allegedly poisoned by the Islamic State.
2016.09.14 Afghanistan Kabul 1 3 A religious radical affixes a bomb to the underside of a car, killing the driver.
2016.09.14 Afghanistan Faryab 2 1
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Old 09-29-2016, 12:02 PM
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Islam is the second most widely practiced religion in France after Roman Catholicism by many faithful. With a total estimated 5 to 10 percent of the national population, France has the largest number of Muslims in Western Europe. [1] [2] The majority of Muslims in France belong to the Sunni community. [3]

Islam is the religion that is in perfect harmony with human nature and that preached by all prophets since the dawn of humanity. Other religions today, such as Christianity and Judaism,
original teachings were either altered or lost and what remains today of these religions is a mixture of truths and lies.
The only religion that has been preserved

Prophets of Islam is the only true religion, which manages all areas of human life, including the religious, moral considerations, the harmonious development of society and the personal development of individuals, and it is the duty of every human being to study this religion to ensure its veracity and to practice it and make it a lifestyle.

The truth about Islam.

Why they demonize Islam?

Why the media took Islam and Muslims targeted?

It is Islam that scares them, Islam is spreading

- No alcohol

- No discotheques

- No pornography

- No prostitution

- No rape

- No homosexuality, ...

There will be all these things to.

Previously they were against communism and now they are against Islam.

You always see in the media:

"war against terrorism"

What terrorism?

Kill innocent people and attack the poorest countries.

The best equipped countries attack the poorest countries and the least equipped and it's called a "war against terrorism" !!!

They fear that Islam is spreading, Islam is everywhere and they fear that Islam is spreading despite everything that happened, and despite the 11.

According to CNN, after September 11, over a period of 9 months, 34,000 Americans have converted to Islam.

Despite all their efforts!

Today they attack women

"Islam does not give rights to women."

2/3 of those who converted to Islam in Europe and America are women.

If Islam is against women, so why do these women come into Islam.

Why do women in Europe-they come in Islam?

This is simply because these people have sought the truth and they found it in Islam.

Despite the media demonization.

The attack on innocent people

This is forbidden in Islam is final

The person who does this
allah show him the punishment in this world and the Hereafter

Why are the majority of Muslims do not kill and do not steal nor commit adultery nor raped girls?


The reason the desire to obey God and get God's blessing for a Muslim living in the age in the world and paradise in the afterlife

As well as the fear of
allah's punishment in the afterlife

I do not endured the combustion of a cigarette

Who can endured fire, such as volcanoes in the afterlife

There is no death in the afterlife

allah save us from this


So this is just a fake news and rumors only

To distort the image of Islam and Muslims


Try to study the Holy Qur'an and the Hadith

The Biography of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

Go to the centers of the Islamic Dawa in your town

Listen and ask face to face
God willing,

I am confident
You will change your mind

I know a lot like you
Thank god
Now they Muslims

Islam Vs Terrorism | Khalid Yasin (Part 1 of 2)

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Islam Vs Terrorism | Khalid Yasin (Part 2 of 2)

Must be True
Because it is the
Fastest Growing Religion

The Game:

How can Islam be a bad religion if it is growing so fast? Doesnt this mean that it is actually a truthful religion, since so many are accepting it?

The Truth:

In the first place, the truth of an idea or doctrine is never established by mere belief or majority opinion. Up until the last hundred years or so, the vast majority of people on our planet did not even believe that they were on a planet. Nor did they believe that the earth was spinning at a thousand miles an hour or hurtling around the sun at 67,000 miles an hour. Does this mean that the earth wasnt doing these things up until people believed that it was?

Secondly, Islam is not "growing faster" than other religions because of conversion, but because the birthrate among Muslims is significantly higher than it is among nominal Christians and others, particularly in the West. Kids can be raised to believe in just about anything, so growth from a higher birthrate hardly constitutes any sort of genuine accomplishment.

A 2011 Pew Research study of global Muslim growth rates concluded that there is "no net growth through conversion", meaning that for every person who "embraces" Islam (usually a woman who changes her identification after marrying a Muslim man) there is at least one other who is willing to leave the faith despite harsh consequences.

Of the so-called converts from other religions, only a miniscule number were active believers. Nearly all are just people who had no real faith to convert from regardless of their nominal designation. In the West and other parts of the non-Muslim world in which all religions are allowed to compete equally, such people experiencing a spiritual awakening are far more likely to turn to Christianity than Islam.

This leads to a very important point, which is that decent Muslims should feel a sense of embarrassment rather than pride over the rules they have to impose to maintain Islam's status as the "fastest growing religion." In truth, it speaks more to the insecurity that Muslims have about their religion - and the banal immaturity of Islam compared with other faiths.

Lets say that you are playing chess with a 6-year-old girl. Instead of following the same set of rules, however, the child is allowed to make up rules that are preferential to hermself. One of the rules, she decides, is that you arent allowed to make any moves on her half of the board, but she is allowed to make moves on yours. Another might be that it is impossible for any of her pieces to be taken.

Now, if the child is winning the game which is assured by the conditions she has imposed - is it really something in which she can truly take pride?

The rules that Muslims impose on the conversion game are almost exactly like this chess analogy. Other religions are not allowed to operate in Islams own territory (ie. preaching their faith and evangelizing) as Muslims are in others. Neither is conversion away from Islam allowed on penalty of death.

In the Muslim world, Christians who evangelize are imprisoned, assaulted, beaten, set on fire, shot, bludgeoned, and tortured by Islamists. Missionaries are raped and killed. Former Muslims who embrace Christianity as their religion of choice are thrown in jail along with their children, sexually assaulted, crippled, hanged, stoned, stabbed, dismembered, carved up, scalded, beheaded, poisoned, brutalized, doused with acid, burned alive and publicly executed...

...and Muslims brag that their religion is growing faster!

Muslims who gloat over their fast growing" religion are no different than the child from our example who deludes herself into thinking that she is smarter and better for beating a much wiser adult in a game played under manufactured conditions that render the artificial victory entirely meaningless.

So the more pertinent question isn't which religion is growing faster, but which is growing faster where people are free to choose. In this environment, Christianity (and 'non-belief in any religion') win easily. Converts are even won in Muslim countries under draconian conditions that Muslim evangelists never have to face anywhere on the planet. When was the last time a person was killed or tortured merely for embracing Islam?

Islam has been playing by these rules since its inception. It is unlikely that Muslims will soon develop the maturity and confidence in Islam to lift the shameful restrictions to which it owes its artificial success, nor risk competition with other faiths on a level playing field.

As was first mentioned, the truth of a belief or creed is never established by how many followers it has (by that standard, Christianity would be true). But when a religion has to be supported by double standards, death threats and violence there is all the more reason to doubt its veracity.
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Reprinted from Breitbart.com.


While the Obama administration continues to allow the Muslim Brotherhood to direct American foreign policy and, therefore, to implement strategies that render America defenseless in the face of Jihad and stealth Jihad, there are some alternative strategies that have the potential to turn this catastrophic situation around completely in Americas favor.

Below are 9 concrete steps that, if implemented by a future American administration, would make a big difference in preserving our civilization and in defending Americans from terrorism:

1. Label the Enemy and Make a Threat Assessment.

The Obama administration continues to refuse to label our enemy and, therefore, it continues to enable our defeat in the terror war. It is urgent that we name our enemy (i.e. Islamic Jihad) and definitively identify what ideology inspires our enemy (i.e. Islamic law).

2. Scrap Countering Violent Extremism.

Countering Violent Extremism is the pathetic and destructive focus of the Obama administration in allegedly fighting the terror war. On the one hand, this focus is vague to the point of being meaningless and completely incapacitates us. On the other hand, this focus allows the administration to perpetuate the destructive fantasy that there are other types of extremists who just happen to be the Lefts political opponents that pose a great threat to the country.

For example, as Stephen Coughlin has revealed, the violent extremists the administration is clearly worried about are the right-wing Islamophobes whom the administration obviously considers to be the real threat to American security.

The Countering Violent Extremism is trash and needs to be thrown in the garbage.

3. Stop Partnering With Muslim Brotherhood Front Groups.

The government needs to stop cooperating with, and listening to, Muslim Brotherhood front groups such as CAIR and ISNA immediately. The Muslim Brotherhood document, the Explanatory Memorandum, has made it clear that the Brotherhoods objective is to destroy our civilization from within by our own hands with the influence of these groups. Moreover, as Robert Spencer advises, there needs to be legislation that will bar all such groups and affiliated individuals from advising the government or receiving any grants from it.

4. Implement a Concrete Countering-Jihad Strategy.

After discarding the Countering Violent Extremism absurdity, a concrete Counter-Jihad strategy must become an official policy. It must specifically register that Jihadists are the enemies and that Islamic law (Sharia) is what specifically motivates them.

Most importantly, as Sebastian Gorka urges in Defeating Jihad: The Winnable War, the government needs to lay down a vision, an actual threat doctrine analysis in a thorough document, just like George Kennans Long Telegram and NSC-68 did in laying out the strategic foundation to fighting communism in the Cold War. It is absolutely mind-boggling that nothing of this sort exists today in our terror war and it is a reflection of the Left being in charge and of the destructive defeat that it is sowing.

4. Launch Our Own Counter-propaganda Campaign.

The Left and Islamists engage in propaganda 24/7. What does our propaganda war entail? Zilch.

Sebastian Gorka is crucially correct, therefore, when he recommends a national counter-propaganda campaign that involves a two-part approach: the first being the bolstering of efforts to define our enemy (Steps #1 and #4 above) and, second, the strengthening of our allies and partners in their own counter-propaganda efforts which must include our empowering of Muslims who are trying to form an anti-Jihadist version of Islam.

Consequently, educational programs have to be set up everywhere, from public schools to universities to workplaces, in businesses and numerous other institutions. These programs must crystallize what exactly Islamic Law is and how it inspires and sanctions violence against unbelievers. This has to also involve, as Gorka urges, a nationwide program of education that includes the armed services as well as federal, state, and local police forces and the intelligence community.

The education campaign must also focus on the second part of Gorkas counter-propaganda campaign, which is to help strengthen Muslims who seek to seize Islam from the jihadists hands.

6. Affirm Sharias Assault on the U.S. Constitution as Seditious.

Once the truth is accepted that jihadis are inspired and sanctioned by their Islamic texts, it must logically become required that mosques, Islamic schools and groups have to immediately curtail any teaching that motivates sedition, violence, and hatred of unbelievers (i.e. remember how CAIR advised Muslims not to talk to the FBI). Indeed, once the government discerns and labels the elements of Islamic law that threaten the American Constitution, any preaching and spreading of those elements in America must be labelled as seditious.

7. Put Pressure on Mosques, Islamic Groups and Schools.

Authorities have to start subjecting mosques and other Islamic institutions to surveillance and discard the suicidal leftist notion that it is racist and Islamophobic to do so. Islamic institutions have to be made to buffer their lip-service against terror with actually doing something about it. As Robert Spencer counsels, this has to involve introducing programs that teach against jihadists understanding of Islam and these programs have to be regularly monitored by the government. (This will be a part of Gorkas suggested counter-propaganda campaign discussed in Step #5).

Spencer rightly stresses that the paradigm has to become that Muslim communities have to win the trust of intelligence and law enforcement agents, rather than the other way around, which is, absurdly and tragically, the case right now.

8. Bring Counter-Jihadists into the Government.

Instead of having Muslim Brotherhood sympathizers like Mohamed Elibiary serving on the U.S. Homeland Security Advisory Council (he resigned in Sept. 2014 under mysterious circumstances), and Muslim Brotherhood-linked individuals like Huma Abedin serving as the right-hand woman of Hillary Clinton, we need to bring in people who actually love America and want to protect it. We all know who these noble and courageous individuals are and some of them are referenced in this article. The government must also bring in brave Muslim individuals who genuinely reject Jihad and empower them in propagating their anti-jihadist vision for Islam.

(P.S. Yes, there is an argument to be made that Islam cannot be Islam without Jihad. But the debate over this belongs in another forum. And whatever the answer, it does not mean that the effort to empower Muslims who want to make the anti-jihadist Islamic vision possible should not be made.)

9. Ridicule the Enemy.

Ridicule is a vicious and potent weapon. There is a baffling and shameful silence in our cultures sphere of comedy, especially in Hollywood and our media, with regard to the myriad ingredients of Sharia and Jihad that merit at least a million hilarious satirical sketches.

Bill Maher, for whatever unappealing drawbacks he has in conservatives eyes, has set a bold standard in this respect in his Burka Fashion Show skit. American comedians need to start writing scripts that follow in Mahers footsteps and Americans need to encourage and equip them to do so and to also vigorously defend them from the attacks and slanders they will inevitably receive from totalitarian leftist and Islamic forces.

We must never underestimate the crippling effect of comedy on the totalitarian Mullahs of the world. Indeed, the contemptuous, snickering and roaring laughter of people, as they gaze at the pathetic rules and lives of Sharias gatekeepers, poses a danger to tyrants like no other.
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"tptb perfection"

This tells you that from Central government to Local government that traitors abound in all that is the British Parliamentary system.
What will it be like as Islam gets greater powers in Central and Local government, as those traitors seek more involvement of the muslim community in the British Parlamentary system, with Mr. Cameron wanting to see a muslim Primeminister of the UK in his life time? They even now have a muslim Mayor of London, and many other cities across the uk!
An islamic central banking system is being set up in London! Our airports all have prayer facilities for muslims! Most local authorities have accomodated special facilities for all kinds of muslim activities in our towns and cities that keeps their Islamic 'religous' uniqueness' in a Christain founded society and alienates them even more from the British way of life, or any other way of life that they have invaded by immigration?
Their demands for certain 'foods' - their being offended by certain customs of we the indigenous people, and many in government conceeding to their many demands - which opens the door wider for those of the Islamic faith to make even more demands.
We are turning into a muslim state by stealth!
A Muslim Europe next?
A Muslim world?
No other community on these islands of ours are being given so many concessions to keep their religious system separate and preserved, thereby encouraging all that is Islam from intergrating with the indigenous people, not that they would anyway.This is a recipe for confrontation, that is being deliberately created by the powers that be.
The powers that be 'know' that ISLAM is the greatest menace on this planet.
All the evidence points to those traitors that control the western political system - have with deliberation and aforethought opened the doors to the white western Christian world to its greatest enemy ISLAM, and are protecting it, encouraging it, and opening the doors of power to it.
They are all worthy of death for such blatant and outrageous betrayal of all that is the white western Christian way of life.


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Lets have a look at the real Islam,not the nonsense that YASOOOOO tries to depict as if good and wonderfull,there is NOTHING good about Islam

A Woman's Worth

Does Islam teach that a woman is worth less than a man?

Absolutely. The only debatable point is by what degree.

Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam, sexism is mathematically established.
Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women." Muslim apologists offer creative explanations to explain why Allah felt that a man's testimony in court should be valued twice as highly as a woman's, but studies consistently show that women are actually less likely to tell lies than men, meaning that they make more reliable witnesses.

Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt on their hands, if there is no water to purify them, following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).

Quran (24:31) - Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye. (To be fair, men are told to do the same thing in the prior verse).

Quran (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." A man has dominion over his wives' bodies as he does his land. This verse is overtly sexual. There is some dispute as to whether it is referring to the practice of anal intercourse. If this is what Muhammad meant, then it would appear to contradict what he said in Muslim (8:3365).

Quran (4:3) - (Wife-to-husband ratio) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" Inequality by numbers.

Quran (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.

Quran (4:24) and Quran (33:50) - A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage. Note that the verse distinguishes wives from captives (those whom they right hand possesses).
Hadith and Sira

Sahih Bukhari (6:301) - "[Muhammad] said, 'Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her intelligence.'"

Sahih Bukhari (6:301) - continued - "[Muhammad said] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'" Allah has made women deficient in the practice of their religion as well, by giving them menstrual cycles.

Sahih Bukhari (2:29) - Women comprise the majority of Hell's occupants. This is important because the only women in heaven mentioned explicitly by Muhammad are the virgins who serve the sexual desires of men. (A weak Hadith, Kanz al-`ummal, 22:10, even suggests that 99% of women go to Hell).

Sahih Bukhari (62:81) - "The Prophet said: "'The stipulations most entitled to be abided by are those with which you are given the right to enjoy the (women's) private parts (i.e. the stipulations of the marriage contract).'" In other words, the most important thing a woman brings to marriage is between her legs.

Sahih Bukhari (62:58) - A woman presents herself in marriage to Muhammad, but he does not find her attractive, so he "donates" her on the spot to another man.

Sahih Muslim (4:1039) - "A'isha said [to Muhammad]: 'You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'" These are the words of Muhammad's favorite wife, complaining of the role assigned to women under Islam.

Abu Dawud (2:704) - "...the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: When one of you prays without a sutrah, a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cut off his prayer, but it will suffice if they pass in front of him at a distance of over a stone's throw."

Abu Dawud (2155) - Women are compared to slaves and camels with regard to the "evil" in them.

Ishaq 593 - "As for Ali, he said, 'Women are plentiful, and you can easily change one for another.'" Ali was raised as a son by Muhammad. He was also the 4th caliph. This comment was made in Muhammad's presence without a word of rebuke from him.

Ishaq 593 - "From the captives of Hunayn, Allah's Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another." - Even in this world, Muhammad treated women like party favors, handing out enslaved women to his cronies for sex.

Ibn Ishaq (693) - "Then the apostle sent Sa-d b. Zayd al-Ansari, brother of Abdu'l-Ashal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons." Muhammad traded captured women for horses.

Al-Tirmidhi 3272 - "When Allah's Messenger was asked which woman was best he replied, 'The one who pleases (her husband) when he looks at her, obeys him when he gives a command, and does not go against his wishes regarding her person or property by doing anything of which he disapproves'."

Tabari VIII:117 - The fate of more captured farm wives, whom the Muslims distributed amongst themselves as sex slaves: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."

Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as booty."

Ishaq 969 - "Lay injunctions on women kindly, for they are prisoners with you having no control of their persons." - This same text also says that wives may be beaten for "unseemliness".

Tabari Vol 9, Number 1754 - "Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves." From Muhammad's 'Farewell Sermon'.
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What does Islam teach about torture?

Torture is sanctioned in Islam when there is a reason for it.

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides..." Quran (8:12) - "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them."
Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"

Quran (24:2) - "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you." Not only is physical torture prescribed as punishment for moral crime between consenting adults, but believers are told to suppress their natural urge for human compassion.

Torture in the next:

Quran (22:19-22) - "These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning." The punishment of those who merely disbelieve in Muhammad's claims about himself is described as being horrifically brutal in many other places as well, such as Quran 4:56, which says that they will face a continuous cycle of torture in which their skin will be burned off only to be replaced by new skin.

How Allah feels about non-Muslims naturally determines the attitude of devout Muslims. In the Quran, Muhammad explicitly uses Allah's hatred of unbelievers to motivate his people to Jihad:

Quran (9:73): "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end."
Hadith and Sira

Sahih Muslim (16:4131) - "They were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died." Muhammad had two killers put to death, not in the way of "an eye-for-an-eye," but in a more agonizing manner. (See also Sahih Bukhari 4:234)

Sahih Muslim (17:4196) - A married man confesses that he has adultery (four times, as required). Muhammad orders him planted in the ground and pelted with stones. According to the passage, the first several stones caused such pain that he tried to escape and was dragged back.

Sahih Bukhari (11:626) - "The Prophet said, 'No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl.' The Prophet added, 'Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.'" Muhammad orders his men to burn alive those who do not present themselves at the mosque for prayer.

Ibn Ishaq 436 - When Muhammad wished to attack the Meccan army at Badr, his men captured two slaves who were carrying water for the caravans and brought them into his presence. They were interrogated under torture as Muhammad stood praying: “…they brought them along and questioned them while the apostle was standing praying… The people were dismayed at their report…and so they beat them. When they were beaten soundly…"

Ibn Ishaq 734 - When Muhammad’s favorite wife Aisha was accused of adultery, he launched an investigation that included the brutal interrogation of a female slave: "So the apostle called Burayra to ask her, and Ali got up and gave her a violent beating, saying “'Tell the Apostle the truth.'”

Ibn Ishaq 595 - Muhammad orders that a man have his tongue cut out.

Ibn Ishaq 764 - After amassing a powerful army, Muhammad sent his forces to take the peaceful farming community of Khaybar by surprise. In the aftermath, he was dissatisfied with the amount of plunder and felt that the town’s treasurer, Kinana, might be holding out on him. He had the man brought to him:

When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr bin al-Awwam, “Torture him until you extract what he has.” So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.”

(As a happy side note to the story – Kinana's untimely death left a beautiful young widow named Saffiya, whom Muhammad was then able to “marry”).

Abu Dawud (494) - In addition to the right of men to beat their wives over disobedience, children are to be beaten as well if they don't pray. "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Command a boy to pray when he reaches the age of seven years. When he becomes ten years old, then beat him for prayer." (Incidentally, this is still taught)

Abu Dawud (4477) - Muhammad orders that a man be beaten with "whips, sticks and sandals" merely for being drunk. He threw dust into the face of the victim during his ordeal. "A man who had drunk wine was brought (before him) and he ordered them (to beat him). So they beat him with what they had in their hands. Some struck him with whips, some with sticks and some with sandals. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) threw some dust on his face."

The life of Muhammad demonstrates that torture is sanctioned in cases of interrogation. The prophet of Islam did not stop his people from beating and abusing individuals in his presence when information was needed, whether it concerned a matter of sexual impropriety or the location of wealth that could be looted. In at least one case of the latter, he is noted to have directly ordered the torture.

Torture is also allowed as a form of punishment and when putting people to death. Rather than prescribing quick methods of execution there were times when Muhammad ordered his men to make a victim's death as slow and agonizing as possible. In one case, his men literally pulled apart the body of an elderly woman named Umm Qirfa by tying her limbs to camels then sent in opposite directions (Ibn Ishaq 980).

One of the most influential Shi'a religious leaders in Iran recently extended the validity of torture to the practice of raping prisoners in the defense of Islam. Mesbah-Yazdi said that it was advisable for the rapist to "perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner."

Mesbah-Yazdi went on to add that "If the judgment for the [female] prisoner is execution, then rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the mandated Haj pilgrimage [to Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent to making a pilgrimage to [the Shi'ite holy city of] Karbala."

According to the cleric, "If the prisoner is female, it is permissible to rape through the vagina or anus." When asked if the rape of men and young boy was considered sodomy, he said, "No, because it is not consensual."

A 2006 fatwa on the popular Islam Web website authorized burning people as a form of punishment. (It was pulled after ISIS began doing this to people in 2015).

Muslim apologists often tell a different story in the West, where rhetorical strategy creates the impression that they oppose torture in and of itself, thus attracting the support of a broader coalition. (CAIR's short-lived 2006 "Campaign against Torture" is one of the best examples of this). The scope of their efforts, however, rarely extend beyond condemning Western countries in general (and the US in particular). Sympathies are also tellingly limited to the alleged treatment of Muslim terror detainees.

In fact, these organizations have very little to say about ending the less ambiguous and far more brutal human rights violations practiced by Muslim governments, even though the victims there are usually Muslim as well (such as the cleric Mesbah-Yazdi's unfortunate victims of rape). The goal of these "anti-torture" campaigns is not an end to torture, but rather an attempt to capture the moral high ground on a controversial issue by exploiting Western attitudes - with no regard for the victims of true torture.

The barbaric treatment of hostages by groups like ISIS is a direct product of religious belief. The Quran is quite explicit in teaching that the 'merciful' Allah tortures non-believers for eternity using supernatural methods to inflict pain that are not even possible in this life. There is no reason for a believing Muslim to think that Allah would disapprove of a far more temporal and limited practice against those whom he has destined for such anguish.

In summary, Islam is not fundamentally opposed to torture in certain circumstances, as long as it is the Muslim party applying it. This is a good example of the many common double standards within the religion that must be recognized and brought out in the open to facilitate honest dialog.
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Your words are incorrect

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The calendar year of Islam begins not with the birthday of our prophet (peace be on him), not from the time that the revelation came to him (Bethat) nor from the time of his ascension to heaven, but with the migration (Hijra) from an undesirable environment into a desirable place to fulfill Allah's command. It was migration from a plot that was set by the leaders of the Quraysh who were plotting to kill prophet Muhammad, and to destroy the truth that today is being conveyed to mankind everywhere against tyranny and injustice. Their purpose was to destroy the foundation of the Islamic state, the Sunnah of the tradition of the prophet, and to prevent the revelation being delivered by Allah's messenger to mankind.

The Islamic calendar is reckoned from the time of migration (Hijra) of Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) from Mecca to Madina. The Prophet's decision to migrate from Mecca came after several years of inhuman treatment of the faithful by the powerful tribes who were united despite all their feuds to stop the spread of Islam.

Prophet Mohammad's decision to leave Mecca coincided with the infidel's plan to assassinate him. In 622 AD, the Quresh tribesmen held a meeting and decided that a band of young men, one from each tribe, should assassinate Prophet Mohammad collectively so that their responsibility for the murder could not be placed on any particular tribe.

On the eventful night, the Prophet asked his cousin Ali Ben Abutalib to take his place in bed to make the Meccans think that he was asleep. The Prophet himself slipped out unobserved alongwith his loyal follower Abu Bakr (who was chosen as the first C aliph after the death of the prophet). They secretly made their way to a cave named Thawr, not far from Mecca and lay in hiding there for a day or two until Abu Bakr's son reported that the search for him had been given up. Then the two set out from Madina on camel back. They reached Quba, on the edge of the Madina oasis, on 12th Rabiul Awwal. With Mohammad's arrival in Quba a new phase of his career and glory of Islam started.

This migration has a special significance in the history of Islam. It ended the Meccan period of humiliation and torture and began the era of success. His own people to whom he preached Islam for 13 years neglected the Prophet of Islam. But he was cordially received in Madina as an honored chief.

In Madina his power enhanced day by day. Here he was not only the religious leader but took the role of a politician and statesman too. Prophet Mohammad expired ten years after his migration to Madina but only in one decade he changed the course of human history.

In view of this special significance of the Prophet's migration the consultative body advised the Second Islamic Caliph, Omar ben Khattab, to start the Islamic year from the date of migration of the Prophet from Mecca to Madina.

According to early Moslem scholars, Abu Musa Al Shari drew attention of Omar to an improperly dated debenture or IOU which was payable in the month of Shaban but it was not clear which Shaban was actually meant, the present one or the coming one. Omar called the dignitaries for consultation who made several suggestions to begin the Islamic calendar.

Ali (who later became the fourth caliph) suggested the Hijra as the beginning of the Islamic year with Moharram as its first month. Consequently, Caliph Omar in 21 A.H. or 641 A.D introduced the Islamic calendar in its present form.


The guidance about the Islamic calendar is taken from the following verses from the Holy Quran: (In the name of GOD most gracious and most merciful)

"Lo the number of the months with God is twelve months." IX:36.

"They ask thee, of new moons. Say: They are fixed seasons for mankind and for the pilgrimage." II:189.

"He it is who appointed the sun a splendor and the moon a light, and measured for her stages, that ye might know the number of the years, and the reckoning." X:5

The Islamic Calendar of 12 Lunar Months is determined by observation of the new moon with no effort by intercalation (addition) or other means to synchronize the Lunar year with the Solar year.

Seerah of Prophet Muhammed 27 - The Hijrah - Emigration to Madinah - Yasir Qadhi | March 2012

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Why should we believe Nakir,he is a muslim like you, and neither of you can read,because all I have said comes directly from the quaran,or from your own history books,all you do here is to try and distort facts as written by your so called prophet.


Quran (22:19-22) - "These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning." The punishment of those who merely disbelieve in Muhammad's claims about himself is described as being horrifically brutal in many other places as well, such as Quran 4:56, which says that they will face a continuous cycle of torture in which their skin will be burned off only to be replaced by new skin.

How Allah feels about non-Muslims naturally determines the attitude of devout Muslims. In the Quran, Muhammad explicitly uses Allah's hatred of unbelievers to motivate his people to Jihad
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NO MY WORDS ARE NOT WRONG........YOURS ARE VERY WRONG and everything Muslims do is wrong

From the advent of Islam, it is the brutality that was used to conquer. Well known US historian Will Durant and other authors have translated Arabs own memoirs on how the Islamic invaders have destroyed cultures and swathes of land with utmost brutality and inhumanity with mountains of Kafir’s heads and rivers of blood. Durant quotes how a Sultan of Delhi becomes restless if he does not see mountains of Kafir’s heads every day morning. Steven Knapp quotes Arab memoirs of literally rivers of blood and the number of men and women sold in Arab markets as slaves (women as sex slaves).

But what is more important is not who did it, but what drives them to do it. That is the point lost in the struggle between Muslims and other communities. A Muslim child is raised with Koranic verses such as below from childhood and Prophet as the model. What does child assimilate when he was told the hate speech such as a Kafir is same as Urine, Feces, Semen, Dead Body, Blood, Dog, Pig, sweat of an animal who eats impure (najis) and alcoholic beverages. This is recited as sacred verse. When people say that is a matter of interpretation, how much is there to interpret here and Mosques themselves are not making it a secret. In the pictures below, when you see ISIS slaughtering a Christian Kid or stripping a Chritian woman naked and beheading her, they are doing what is preached, that a Kafir is same as animal that can be slaughtered. Just watch how an animal is slaughtered and how a Kafir is. In fact, a Saudi Wahaabi cleric in this link gives a lesson on proper way of beheading (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHt-eqrLEOY ).
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Zakir Naik (born 18 October 1965) is an Indian Islamic preacher, and the founder and president of the Islamic Research Foundation] He is also the founder of the "comparative religion" Peace TV channel through which he reaches a reported 100 million viewers.[ He has been called an "authority on comparative religion",] "perhaps the most influential Salafi ideologue in India



Kill the infidels and the polytheists in the Holy Qur'an for several specific reasons and specific conditions

If someone assaults you and kill your children and your relatives and your package from your country by force
What will you do?

This exactly happened in the time of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

Polytheists and infidels tortured new Muslims unjustly

Killing infidels owners of the Messenger of Allah, without the right

Prevent the infidels from Muslim food and drink without the right

Infidels and take their money home without the right

Get out the infidels of Mecca, the Prophet without the right

Imagine with me all these terrible acts occurred

Only because they are Muslims

Therefore, the revelation came through Jibreel to the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

State in the Holy Qur'an

Must fight the polytheists as mohammed they killed unduly

You mohammed you have the right to kill them

36. Verily, the number of months with Allah is twelve months (in a year), so was it ordained by Allah on the Day when He created the heavens and the earth; of them four are Sacred, (i.e. the 1st, the 7th, the 11th and the 12th months of the Islamic calendar). That is the right religion, so wrong not yourselves therein, and fight against the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) collectively , as they fight against you collectively. But know that Allah is with those who are Al-Muttaqun

The peaceful infidels should not fight them or kill them at all

We have to talk to them about the message of Islam to respect

8. Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.


‫شيخ أسترالي يقول كلام خطير لا يستطيع عربي التفوه به‬‎ - YouTube

- At the beginning of the Islamic Dawa
There is no fighting
Peaceful invitation to the oneness of God

Legislation to fight
Came after an polytheists attack
On the blood and symptoms and Muslim money

The hadith, "I have been ordered to fight the people" until they say, "there is none worthy of worship but Allah," is an authentic hadith, and there is no doubt of its authenticity; it is agreed upon. Both Al-Bukhari and Muslim related it. However, consideration remains as to its meaning. It is well-known that the word, "people," in this hadith is a general term with a particular reference; what is meant by "them" is the Arab idolaters who were enemies of the Message from its inception. They persecuted the Muslims in Mecca for thirteen years and fought the Messenger for nine years in Medina. They even battled him on his home ground twice. They wanted to eliminate him and his companions and put an end to his call. These people, as they were described in Surat al-Tawbah (interpretation of the meaning),
There are a number of reasons, but the Qur'an is clear that self-defence is always the underlying cause.

Permissable reasons for military Jihad:


Protecting the freedom of Muslims to practise their faith
Protecting Muslims against oppression, which could include overthrowing a tyrannical ruler
Punishing an enemy who breaks an oath

{With regard to a believer, they respect not the ties, either or kinship or of covenant! It is they who are the transgressors.}


{a people who have violated their oaths and intended to expel the Messenger, while they did attack you first?}


So, the Messenger wiped his hands of them and there remained no hope in their reformation. Those people have a situation that does not apply to others beside them, especially since Islam wanted to make the Hijaz a sanctuary for Islam and a stronghold for it a place where no other religion would vie with it.

‫الاسلام والارهاب - خالد ياسين - مترجم - الجزء الاول‬‎ - YouTube



I'm going to kill your children and your spouse in front of your eyes

You do not get angry
Sit and guided me
By the mind and wisdom to the right path

What do you think?

Are these words accepted by the mind?

World inside it) good and evil (

Must resist evil before occurrence by the mind and wisdom

After occurrence
This is something for the inevitable
Because it is people's rights
Should not be lost
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After the slander and lies against Islam in the events of 9/11

God grant victory to Islam after the injustice directly


- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS_TbmJ4H1g
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDriLNaY0cg
Many non-Muslims

Built his ideas about Islam
By random acts Muslims
These acts are not true
I beseech you to excuse
You do not know
Not studying Arabic and Islamic law

I'm here to clarify the truth of the matter
Of the Holy Qur'an and the Hadith
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Your words are incorrect

A Muslim does not hated non-Muslims
On the contrary,-
Reconstruction and find life in Islam
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(32) Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

(68) And those who do not invoke with Allah another deity or kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed], except by right, and do not commit unlawful sexual intercourse. And whoever should do that will meet a penalty
(69) Multiplied for him is the punishment on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein humiliated
(70) Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful
(71) And he who repents and does righteousness does indeed turn to Allah with [accepted] repentance

-Look at the Crusades
Killed millions of people, women and children without mercy
Under the name of Christ
Jesus is innocent of that

On the contrary,
Prophet Muhammad in the wars
Order the believers

Not killing women, children and non-burn destruction of houses and trees

Jihad in the Bible
Let us see what the Bible has to say about Jihad in the meaning of war and violence. The following verses are from the Bible, New International Version (NIV), 1984
"Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed." [Exodus 22:18-20]

"This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' The Levites did as Moses commanded and that day about three thousand of the people died." [Exodus 32:27-28]
"The LORD said to Moses, 'Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. (Moses ordered) "Now kill all the boys. And kill every women who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." [Numbers 31:1-18]

(Jesus said) "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me." [Luke 19:27]
"He (Jesus) said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." [Luke 22:36]

Differential treatment
Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy and forgiveness. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the basic tenants of Islam.
When Timothy McVeigh bombed the Oklahoma City building, no American or Christian was labeled as a terrorist or was the target of hate crimes. When Irish Christians carry out acts of terrorism against each other and on the British Isles, the Christian religion is not blamed but individuals or their political agenda. Unfortunately, the same is not true for American Muslims and Arabs. The vast majority of Muslims or Arabs have no association with the violent events around the world yet Islam is invoked with terrorism. It is unfair to 1.5 billion Muslims of the world and religion of Islam.

Criteria of guilt
Innocent until proven guilty in an open court is an accepted universal principle of justice along with liberty and freedom for all humankind. However, the U.S. failed to practice the same principles for those who are not U.S. nationals. Even worse, the U.S. is creating military tribunal for secret trials because there may be inadequate evidence to prove Arabs and Muslims guilty in open courts.
May Allah bless us all and purify our hearts from all misunderstanding, malice, hate and anger.

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إمرأة أمريكية تصدع بالحق نحن هم الإرهابيون|American woman cracked right we are the terrorists

‫إمرأة أمريكية تصدع بال*ق ن*ن هم الإرهابيون|American woman cracked right we are the terrorists‬‎ - YouTube

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What famous non-Muslims said about Islam and Prophet Muhammad PBUH
Napoleon Bonaparte
I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Quran which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness.

Sir George Bernard Shaw
I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity.
I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.

H.G. Wells
The Islamic teachings have left great traditions for equitable and gentle dealings and behaviour, and inspire people with nobility and tolerance. These are human teachings of the highest order and at the same time practicable. These teachings brought into existence a society in which hard-heartedness and collective oppression and injustice were the least as compared with all other societies preceding it Islam is replete with gentleness, courtesy, and fraternity.

Phillip Hitti
During all the first part of the Middle Ages, no other people made as important a contribution to human progress as did the Arabs, if we take this term to mean all those whose mother-tongue was Arabic, and not merely those living in the Arabian peninsula. For centuries, Arabic was the language of learning, culture and intellectual progress for the whole of the civilized world with the exception of the Far East. From the 9th to the 12th century there were more philosophical, medical, historical, religious, astronomical and geographical works written in Arabic than in any other human tongue.

R. Bosworth Smith
He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Popes pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life.

Sarojini Naidu
It was the first religion that preached and practised democracy; for, in the mosque, when the call for prayer is sounded and worshippers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and king kneel side by side and proclaim: God Alone is Great

Dr. William Draper
Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man who, of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God.

Thomas Carlyle
The lies (Western slander) which well-meaning zeal has heaped round this man (Muhammad) are disgraceful to ourselves only.
A silent great soul, one of that who cannot but be earnest. He was to kindle the world, the worlds Maker had ordered so.

A. S. Tritton
The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Quran in the other is quite false.

De Lacy OLeary
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.

The good sense of Muhammad despised the pomp of royalty. The Apostle of God submitted to the menial offices of the family; he kindled the fire; swept the floor; milked the ewes; and mended with his own hands his shoes and garments. Disdaining the penance and merit of a hermit, he observed without effort of vanity the abstemious diet of an Arab.

Edward Gibbon and Simon Oakley
The greatest success of Mohammads life was effected by sheer moral force.

Edward Montet
Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically the teachings of the Prophet, the Quran has invariably kept its place as the fundamental starting point, and the dogma of unity of God has always been proclaimed therein with a grandeur a majesty, an invariable purity and with a note of sure conviction, which it is hard to find surpassed outside the pale of Islam A creed so precise, so stripped of all theological complexities and consequently so accessible to the ordinary understanding might be expected to possess and does indeed possess a marvellous power of winning its way into the consciences of men.

Mahatma Gandhi
I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophets biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.

Alphonse de LaMartaine
If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls.

Michael Hart
My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the worlds most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level.
It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. .
..It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.

Mohammads career is a wonderful instance of the force and life that resides in him who possesses an intense faith in God and in the unseen world. He will always be regarded as one of those who have had that influence over the faith, morals and whole earthly life of their fellow men, which none but a really great man ever did, or can exercise; and whose efforts to propagate a great verity will prosper.

W. Montgomery Watt
His readiness to undergo persecution for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as a leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems that it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad
Thus, not merely must we credit Muhammad with essential honesty and integrity of purpose, if we are to understand him at all; if we are to correct the errors we have inherited from the past, we must not forget the conclusive proof is a much stricter requirement than a show of plausibility, and in a matter such as this only to be attained with difficulty.

D. G. Hogarth in Arabia
Serious or trivial, his daily behaviour has instituted a canon which millions observe this day with conscious memory. No one regarded by any section of the human race as Perfect Man has ever been imitated so minutely.The conduct of the founder of Christianity has not governed the ordinary life of his followers. Moreover, no founder of a religion has left on so solitary an eminence as the Muslim apostle.

Washington Irving
He was sober and abstemious in his diet and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected but a result of real disregard for distinction from so trivial a source.
In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints.
His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting a regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonials of respect were shown to him. If he aimed at a universal dominion, it was the dominion of faith; as to the temporal rule which grew up in his hands, as he used it without ostentation, so he took no step to perpetuate it in his family.

James Michener
No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam. The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts this idea, and the Quran is explicit in the support of the freedom of conscience.
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Anybody can quote people who does not know better that will tell you how great islam is,the facts speaks for itself,not words,but deeds.....The bible says you will know them by their fruits......You worship a pagan god not the real One and yours was created by Mohhamed

Where Did Allah Come From?

Muslims worship a god by the name of Allah. They also give him ninety-nine other names. The question that naturally arises is who or what is this Allah? Where did the Muslims derive their ideas of Allah's nature and attributes?

Historical Source of Islam

Historians, linguists, and archeologists have dug into this question for over a century. Various archeological digs in Arabia and throughout the Middle East have uncovered the answer: Islam is a modern version of the ancient fertility religion of the moon god. Once this is grasped, the rise and history of Islam becomes clear.

The Arab conquests were made possible because the central powers in the Middle East had exhausted themselves in wars against each other. They were not able to fight off wave after wave of Arab armies which subdued entire nations with merciless slaughter, rape and plunder.

Conquering Armies

The Arabs destroyed some of the wonders of the ancient world such as the world famous library in Alexandria, Egypt, They destroyed many ancient churches and synagogues. Anthropologists have recorded how the Arabs destroyed the cultural heritage of any nation which fell under their sword.

Who were these Arabs? They obviously were not Christians because they destroyed churches and murdered priests wherever they went. Obviously, they were not Jews because they persecuted Jews without pity. This is seen today in their hatred of Israel and the many wars and acts of terrorism waged against Jews throughout the world.

If the Arab hordes which swept over the ancient world were not Christians or Jews, then what were they? They were pagans who worshipped a pagan god called Allah and followed pagan rites which were practiced in Arabia long before the religion of Islam evolved.

Islam Denies the Trinity

These facts of history reveal that Islam does not worship the same God worshipped by Christians. Why?

Christians worship one God in three persons: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. But Islam denies the Holy Trinity and worships a different deity called Allah who is not a Father and who has no son.

Since the religion found in the Bible teaches the Trinity, then it does not take a Ph.D. to see that Islam did not come from the Bible. Thus it is not the religion of the biblical prophets, apostles or Jesus.

Pagan Origins

Islam's origins have been traced back by scholars to the ancient fertility religion of the worship of the moon god which was always the dominant religion of Arabia. The moon god was worshipped by praying toward Mecca several times a day, making an annual pilgrimage to the Kabah which was a temple of the moon god, running around the Kabah seven times, caressing an idol of a black stone set in the wall of the Kabah, running between two hills, making animal sacrifices, gathering on Fridays for prayers, giving alms to the poor, etc.. These were pagan rites practiced by the Arabs long before Muhammad was born.

The Crescent Moon

What religion today practices the pagan rites of the moon god? Islam! This explains why the crescent moon is the symbol of Islam. It is placed on top of mosques and minarets and displayed on hats, flags, rugs, amulets and even jewelry. Every time you see the Muslim symbol of a crescent moon, you are seeing the ancient symbol of the moon god.

Denial Not a Refuge

Does the average Muslim know that he is worshipping a moon god? No. Does he know why the crescent moon symbol sits on top of his mosque? No. Is he shocked and perhaps angered at these facts of history? Yes. But can mere denial or angry threats refute the fact that Islam is nothing more than a modern version of the ancient religion of the moon god Allah? No. The average Muslim has been kept in the dark by the Mullahs and Imams who would lose their power if the truth ever got out.

Muslims use the remotest language possible to describe Allah. They try
to make him as transcendent as possible in order to discourage people
from conducting research on him. If you ask a Muslim to define Allah, he
will just beat about the bush, ascribing attributes to him that neither
belong to him nor befit him. But Allah is not as mysterious as Islam
would like the world to believe. He has been at the Ka'aba stone all
along. Certainly, Christians have not prayed enough to displace him and
we may never do so until he meets his doom in the valley of Megiddo.

Some say that the word Allah was or is derived from the Syriac
Alaha. But the name Allah was in existence long before Islam. That is
evidenced from the name Abdullah (meaning servant of Allah) - the
name of Muhammad's father. The question is this: To whom was this
name originally revealed? Certainly none of the Biblical prophets ever
referred to it. There is absolutely no trace of that name in the Bible. It is
Arabic, not Israelite.

But in the mind of Islamic scholars, anything (negative or positive)
done to further the cause of Islam is justifiable, so they can lie and claim
that the name of Allah was revealed to Adam, Abraham or even Ishmael.
Lies can be told about those patriarchs because they have been dead a
long time and aren't around to refute any false claims. And they never
leave Abraham alone.

In pre-Islamic Arabia, that Muslims now refer to as "Al-Jahiliya,"
meaning a period of ignorance, the Arabians were grossly paganistic. In
and around Ka'aba, the Arabs worshiped 360 idols. Each clan had their
own particular idols to worship. It is provable that Allah was one of the
360 idols that Muhammad's Hashimite clan worshiped.

Muhammad's grandfather, Abdul Muttalib, was the leader of Mecca
and a custodian of Ka'aba's 360 idols. The Koran confirms that he was a
pagan. The names that Muhammad's grandfather gave his children are
further proof that Muhammad was from a family of idol devotees.
Muhammad's father was named Abdullah, meaning servant of Allah.

The name of Muhammad's uncle was Abdul Manaf, meaning servant of
Manaf. His other name was Abu Talib, meaning father of Talib. This is
indisputable proof that Allah and Manaf were clannish idols worshiped
by Muhammad and his people. Islamic scholars try to hide the historic
fact that Muhammad worshiped idols before and after he claimed to be
a prophet. But they can't do away with the record of the Koran itself.

That Muhammad was later fascinated by the monotheistic creed of
Jews and Nestorian Christians is beyond question. He encountered many
of them at Mecca and on his business trips to Syria. His wife, Khadija,
was a Catholic, as was Waraqa ibn Naufal, his secret tutor.

Now, Muhammad wanted to unite the Arab race under a theocratic
setting, but there was no way he could carry along all those 360 idols, so
Muhammad decided to pick from among the idols of his clan. Naturally
he picked Allah, the idol for which his father was named. Any of the
idols would have served; an idol is an idol. It is the demon behind an
idol that deceives the mind and heart.

Those who try to single out Allah and deify him above the other
Meccan idols should remember that Muhammad could just as easily
have picked Manaf, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, or any of the others; and his choice
didn't win the support of everyone, including his uncle, Abdul Manaf.
That is clear from the fact that Abdul didn't submit to Allah and Islam
until his death. He held on to Manaf.

This elevation of one idol over the other 359 angered the other
Meccan clans. The purported persecution of Muhammad was nothing
but an inter-tribal or inter-clannish quarrel over whose idol should be or
whose should not be venerated. In the same vein, the Koran was written
in Muhammad's dialect (Quraish). To pacify the other tribes, Muhammad
told them (with concocted "revelations") that the preserved tablet in
heaven was written in Quraish. The world was then asked to swallow the
Islamic lie that all the Ka'aba idols were destroyed. It just isn't true.
About four of those idols are said to remain. The custodians of Ka'aba
should open the stone to independent inspectors should anyone dispute

Just as Islam led 1.2 billion Muslims and even some ignorant
Christians to believe that Jesus is Isa or Esau, so it has tried to make the
world believe that Allah is God. But there is no link between Allah and
the Bible God, who revealed His name to be Yahweh, or the "I AM."1
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary calls the name of the true God a
"Tetragrammaton," which means that it is made up of four letters. Those
Hebrew letters are transliterated YHWH or JHVH. They are usually
pronounced Yahweh or Jehovah. Yahweh means the "I AM." That name
defines God's eternal being and divine nature: The only true, almighty,
personal, holy God, and "the Father of spirits" (Numbers 16:22, cf. John
4:24), The God who revealed Himself to His people, made a covenant
with them, became their law giver, to Whom all honor and worship is
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The first Islamic Jihad ended in 786AD, when Khalifah Haroun al-
Rashid made peace with the Western nations. From then until this very century,
Islam remained primarily in the Middle East, and as a minority religion in Africa
and the Far East. Islam did not again pose a threat to world peace until after WW2,
when the West started sending vast sums of money to the Arab nations in exchange
for oil. That oil money has enabled the Middle East (the Leopard-Bear-Lion beast
of Revelation 13:1-9) to arm itself with modern weaponry. In those figurative
verses, the Bible clearly predicts there would be a 2nd Islamic Jihad just prior to
Jesus' return. That 2nd Jihad is visible today in the military and economic pressure
with which the Islamic states and the Palestinians are threatening Israel and the
Revelation further shows that this Jihad would lead to Earth's final war, the
battle of Armageddon (Rev 16:12-16). Though Armageddon may spread over the
whole world, with up to 2,500,000,000 people killed, it will begin in the Middle
East and be of short duration. It will end with the return of the Lord Jesus. For
further details, see Ellis H. Skolfield, The False Prophet, (Fish House Publishing,
Ft. Myers, FL, 1995)


JIHAD literally means "a great striving," and that striving includes a
relentless and remorseless worldwide aggression. Jihad is a multi-action
form of warfare, a more "total" war than that practiced by the fascist and
Communist leaders of this century. Jihad does call for armed struggle
and battle, but it also means a war through subversion and propaganda,
through conversion of non-Muslims to Islam, and penetration of non-
Muslim societies. Political and economic pressure is involved, such as the
cutting off of oil supplies or the buying of property in "target" countries.1

Western lands beware! For instance, Arab nations, particularly Saudi
Arabia, now have significant holdings in the United States and other
western countries, all bought with western oil money.

How did it all begin? Well, Muhammad's attempt to persuade his
tribesmen to embrace his teachings by peaceful means only brought him
threats, mocking and severe persecution. But Muhammad's persecution
did not arise from his advocating the worship of Allah. Allah had been
worshiped by his people for centuries. Historically, Allah was one of the
360 gods on display in Ka'aba. Going by his name, which means "servant
of Allah," Muhammad's father, Abdullah, was probably a priest of Allah.

The Meccans were provoked because Muhammad appeared to be staging
a religious coup d'etat in favor of only one of their 360 idols at the
Ka'aba, namely Allah. They couldn't understand why Muhammad should
elevate that one idol above the other 359.

That was the primary cause of Muhammad's flight (Hijra) from
Mecca to Medina (then Yatrib) in 622 AD. From the passages of the
Koran backed by the Hadiths and writings of Islamic scholars, Muham-
mad took up the sword only when told to do so by Allah.

Sura 2:216; 4:73-80 leads us to believe that Muslims at first objected
to the idea of engaging in physical combat to spread Islam. As a

1 This was put into practice during the Yom-Kippur-Jihad against Israel on October
17, 1973 when the Arab Kings and Sheikhs suddenly quadrupled the price of oil
and threatened to cut off the supply. Since then oil has assumed the name, black
gold (an expensive commodity). Its costliness is one of the main reasons for the
economic crisis currently rocking the world from east to west to such an extent,
that some countries, especially in third world, are strangled by debt.
persecuted minority in Mecca, they understood Jihad to be a verbal
defense of their faith. But the alluring benefit of material gains through
plunder, the unrestricted use of female captives, and an automatic
admittance into paradise proved too much of a temptation for the
Muslims to resist. As a result, the initial expeditions could be better
described as plundering exercises rather than "evangelistic" missions
inspired by religious fervor.

In his new role as "Military General," Muhammad commanded a
band of Islamic Jihadists to ambush a defenseless Meccan caravan and
seize their goods. This took place in a month when all fighting was
prohibited by treaty. When the Jihadists returned to Medina with their
plunder, this unprovoked attack was unanimously condemned by the
community. But what the people of Medina judged to be an armed
robbery in broad daylight got divine approval:

"They ask thee concerning fighting in the prohibited month.
Say: fighting therein is a grave [offence]: but graver is it in the
sight of God to prevent access to the path of God to deny Him,
to prevent access to the sacred mosque, and drive out its
members. Tumult and oppression is worse than slaughter . . . "
(Sura 2:217).

If you accept these statements as "revelations" from Allah, then you
are faced with an Allah who admitted that fighting in the prohibited
month was a "grave offence," but who turned around and defended the
"grave offence" by saying that more "grave is preventing people from the
sacred mosque." Two wrongs do not make a right nor do two sins make
righteousness. The true God never defends sin. The conclusion that the
promise of loot was one of the stimuli motivating Jihadists to fight can
be plainly seen in the Koran. Listen to this sura:

"God promised you many gains that ye will acquire, and hath
given you this in advance, and withheld men's hand from you,
that it may be a token for the believers and that he may guide
you to the right path" (Sura 48:20).

That the speaker made good his promise to enrich Jihadists with
plunder is proven from the lives of Muslims who migrated to Medina
with Muhammad. Many who came to Medina poverty-stricken left
fortunes to their heirs.1 With these earthly incentives and more in
paradise, Islamic Jihad escalated until it became an all out war of
subjugation, not only of individuals, but of whole nations and empires.
Philip Schaff, writing on the history of the Christian church, stated
it this way:

"The Sword", says Muhammad "is the key of heaven and hell;
a drop of blood shed in the cause of Allah, a night spent in
arms, is of more avail than two months of fasting and prayer;
whoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of
judgment his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and
cherubim." This was the secret of his success. Idolaters had to
choose between Islam, slavery and death; Jews and Christians
were allowed to purchase a limited toleration by the payment
of Jizya (humility tax), but were nonetheless kept in degrading
bondage.'" The khalifs, Muhammad's successors who like him
united the priestly and kingly divinity, carried on his conquests
with the battle cry: "Before you is paradise, behind you are
death and hell." Inspired by the weakness of the Byzantine
empire and the internal distraction of the Greek church, the
wild sons of the desert who were content with the plainest food,
and disciplined in the school of war, hardship and recklessness
of life, subdued Palestine, Syria and Egypt, embracing the
classical soil of primitive Christianity. Thousands of Christian
churches in the patriarchal diocese of Jerusalem, Antioch and
Alexandria were ruthlessly destroyed or converted into
mosques. Twenty years after Muhammad's death, the crescent
ruled over a realm as large as the Roman Empire.

The command to fight for the cause of Allah is given in many Suras
of the Koran:

"Then fight in the cause of God and know that God heareth and
knoweth all things" (Sura 2:244).

The command to fight relentlessly is given in Sura 4:74. In Sura 8:65,
Allah encouraged Muhammad to incite Muslims to fight. Listen to Allah
giving the Jihad order:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay
the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer

1 Read of the life of Abd Rahman, in Rauzatu's Safa Vol. 2, P.253

them and lie in wait (ambush) for them in every stratagem (of
war) but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and
practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for God is
oft-forgiving most merciful" (Sura 9:5).

"O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers . . . " (Sura 9:123).

Those who are ignorant of the Koran and Islam are terrified when they
see Muslims slaughtering Christians, and rightly so. We might feel a little
bit better about it if we understood that our Muslim friends are just
doing what they believe to be right. Allah specifically commands
Muslims to fight against Christians and Jews until they are reduced to a
condition worst than that of slaves:

"Fight those who believe not in God (Allah] and his apostle, nor
acknowledge the religion of truth [even if they are] of the
people of the book [i.e. Jews and Christians], until they pay jizya
[humiliating tax] with willing submission, and feel themselves
subdued [enslaved]. (Sura 9:29).

A being who is determined to wipe out Jews and Christians, now
who might that be? The Bible has the answer:

Rev 12:17 And the dragon (Satan) was wroth with the woman
(Israel), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed
(the Jews today), which keep the commandments of God, and
have the testimony of Jesus Christ (the Christians).
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Just as Muslims have their own god - Allah - they also have their own
heaven - Aljana. As the Muslim Allah is totally different from the
Christian God, so also is Aljana completely different from the biblical
heaven. Not only is the method of entry into the two different, but the
conditions there are markedly different.

In Sura 5:92; 2:219, Allah forbids Muslims from taking wine while
on planet earth, but those going to Aljana are promised rivers of wine of
many enticing varieties (Sura 47:15; 76:6):

- There is the promise of pure sealed wine (Sura 83:25)
- Zanjabil enhanced wine (Sura 76:17)
- Tasnim brand of wine (Sura 83:27)
- Wine mixed with kafur (Sura 76:5)

The Bible explicitly teaches that drunkards will not enter the
Kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

Recognizing the inherent weakness in their concept of heaven,
Islamic scholars such as Muhiyyu'ddin endeavored to explain the wine
away in a mystical sense, but he was called as a heretic by other Muslims
who insisted that the Koran means exactly what it says. Yusuf Ali also
tried to give the wine Suras sufic, i.e., spiritual renderings. But the
frequency with which those references occurred and the unequivocal
nature of them made him abandon the "sufic interpretation project" and
toe the line of the generality of the Islamic umma - that the Koran
means exactly what it says - real wine.

If they guzzle all that promised wine, I wonder if the Muslims will
go berserk in Aljana just like they do here? You can't rule out that
possibility, you know, since even without wine, they went berserk in
Allah's headquarters (the Ka'aba in Mecca) during the pilgrimage of
August 1987.

According to an official report by the Saudis, 402 Muslims were
killed and 605 injured in a Jihad that they waged against themselves.
Can their saying "Islam is peace" be true? Surely, a change of environ-
ment does not mean a change of heart. How the various warring factions
of Islam can dwell together in the same Aljana is not stated by the Koran.
Allah may have taken notice of this and compartmentalized the place. It
appears that the Islamic Aljana contains what the Arabian desert most
lacks, such as:

- Gushing water (Sura 3:15, 198, 4:57, 15:45).
- Clustered plantains (Sura 56:29)
- Fruits (Sura 56:20, 69:21-24).
- Shades with bunches of fruits (Sura 76:14).
- Enclosed gardens and grape vines (Sura 78:32).
- Fowl meat is one more carrot that Allah dangles before
the noses of the Muslim faithful. (Sura 56:21).

Whereas the Bible says:

For the Kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteous-
ness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Romans 14:17).

Apart from the wine and such other worldly things, there is also
supposed to be a lot of honeymooning in Aljana. Womanizing Muslims
here on earth are a picture of morality compared to what supposedly
awaits them in their heaven. Among the rewards promised faithful
Muslims are beautiful and heavy women with big and lustrous eyes
(Sura 38:52; 44:54; 52:20). (Whether this is where the idea of Ikebe
Super1 originates or not, I cannot tell). Also promised are virgins whom
no jinn (demon) nor man has ever touched (Sura 55:70-74).

Hadiths by respected scholars confirm all this by telling us that each
faithful Muslim will be entitled to several thousand of these "special"
women, called Houris (cf. Mishkatu.l Masabih, pp. 457-491). This
concept of heaven contradicts the words of our Lord Jesus who dis-
missed a similar but more restrained sensual notion of the Sadducees.
Jesus told them plainly that there would be no marriage in heaven (See
Matthew 22:29, 30).

1 "Ikebe Supers" are imaginary ladies of comic strip proportions with mountainous
buttocks and the kind of breasts as described in the Koran.

What will happen to Muslim women from this world? Who would
marry them considering that Muslim men are offered a whole host of
better "heavenly" virgins? Would you go for a slightly used model when
you were offered thousands of brand new ones? Is this not the epitome
of discrimination against the longsuffering women of Islam? That kind
of Islamic heaven makes Hollywood look like a monastery. The exceed-
ingly holy God would have nothing to do with such a whoring place.

It is astonishing to note that sensual excesses, which can send one
straight to Hell if unrepented of, are exactly what are promised to our
Muslim friends in their paradise. There are Bible warnings against such,
if you will heed them:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the Kingdom
of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor
idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexuals
nor slanders nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God. (1
Corinthians 6:9-10, NIV).

The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality,
impurity and debauchery: . . . I warn you, as I did before, that
those who live like this will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
(Galatians 5:19, 21 NIV).

The passage of scripture that describes your final state if you fail to
repent may be found in Revelation 21:8:

But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers
[including Jihadists], the sexually immoral, those who practice
magic arts, the idolaters and all liars - their place will be in the
fiery lake of burning sulphur [hell]. This is the second death.
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Avoiding Contention.

The Prophet, sallallaahu alayhe wa sallam, said, If a man gives up contention when he is in the wrong, a house will be built for him within the Garden of Paradise; but if a man gives up contention, even when he is in the right, a house will be built for him in the loftiest part of the Garden. (Termithi) The value of this advice lies in the fact that contention and disputes lead to a breakdown in the relationship, even rancor, enmity, and hostility. I have worked with many families where this has occurred and it can be very difficult to mend the wounds that have been created and to bring family members back together. It goes without saying that it is best to completely avoid reaching this low level.

Let us all work to improve our style of communication and our relationships with each other. When our children feel that their parents understand them and are willing to listen to them, they will open up their hearts and trust will develop. Effective teaching and discipline cannot be implemented without a certain level of trust, understanding, and mutual respect.

If you are concerned about your children in a non-Muslim environment and it is affecting the way you interact with them, the best you can do is teach and advise them, give them responsibility, trust them, and let them know that you care for them. We can then make dua and rely upon Allahs Grace and Assistance. This is our best weapon in a world of non-belief. May Allah help each of us to strengthen the ties that bind us together as a family and bring happiness and contentment to our homes.



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Muhammad's daughter, Fatima, was perhaps gripped with the reality of
the hereafter when she asked her father what her fate would be on the
day of judgement. Listen to the "revelation" handed down to Muhammad
to give his daughter:

"Say: I am no bringer of newfangled doctrine among the
apostles, nor do I know what will be done with me or you. I
follow but that which is revealed to me by inspiration; I am but
a warner open and clear." (Sura 46, Al-Ahqaf, Verse 9).

Can you imagine? Muslims claim Muhammad to be the "seal" and
"greatest" of the prophets, yet he wasn't sure of going to heaven himself,
nor could he offer that assurance to his own daughter. If that is what he
believed, why follow him? A religion that cannot grant assurance of
salvation to its own prophet will certainly disappoint its lesser adherents
in the last day. This uncertainty has characterized the lives of all
professing Muslims down through the ages, and it serves as a prelude to
their impending doom. But you need not go the uncertain way of
Muhammad and Fatima. There is a way out for you. Jesus Christ had a
much better answer when Thomas asked Him a similar question:

Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know
the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the father but by me. (John 14:5,6).

This declaration of Jesus does away with the need for all other religions.
If you accept Christ, you are not accepting a religion, but a living Savior.
He alone can give you the assurance of your salvation:

But this man [Jesus] because he continueth ever, hath an
unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able to save them to
the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth
to make intercession for them. (Hebrews 7:24, 25).

Islam and the Hope of Muslims

The Koran makes an incredible but true statement concerning their fate
that should make every Muslim break out into a cold sweat. The Koran
teaches plainly that both "unbelievers" and Muslims will go to Hell-fire.

The Koran declares that Muslims will eventually be rescued, but
unbelievers (kafir) will remain there. Sura 19, Maryam, verses 67-68, 71-
"But does not man call to mind that we created him before out
of nothing? So by thy Lord, without doubt, we shall gather them
together, and [also] the evil ones [with them]; then shall we
bring them forth on their knees round about hell;
Not one of you but will pass over it [hell]: this is with thy Lord,
a decree which must be accomplished. But we shall save those
who guarded against evil, and we shall leave the wrong doers
therein, [humbled] to their knees."

These statements are so explicit that Islamic scholars cannot explain
them away. All they can say is that they all will first enter Hell before
being saved according to their works. The number of years they will
spend in Hell before help arrives is not specified in the Koran.
I do not have a different interpretation of these Koranic verses than
the Islamic scholars do. All I can say to my Muslim friends is that Hell is
a place of no return. Once you are in there, you are in forever (Sura
6:128; 11:107 cf.. Mark 9:43; Rev.20:10). Even if it were possible to
pluck you out of Hell, the promised Islamic paradise is still a sort of Hell
since the thrice holy God will have nothing to do with a city full of wine
bibbing, adulterous and whoring people.

That an Islamic paradise would not be sin-free is clear from the
"balancing theory" that those whose good deeds outweigh their sins will
enter paradise. It is a false hope. One sin disqualifies you from heaven as
in the case of Adam and Eve. It takes complete holiness to enter the real
heaven (Revelation 21:27; Hebrews 12:14). Our God is so pure that He
cannot tolerate even the smallest sin (if there is such a thing as a small
sin, Habakkuk 1:13).

If Allah's words are to be believed, then it is totally impossible for a
Muslim to escape Hell-fire. In yet another sura of the Koran, Allah
emphatically declares that he has ordained all Muslims and jinns to end
up in Hell:

"If we had so willed, we could certainly have brought every
souls its true guidance: but the word from me will come true. I
will fill hell with jinns and men all together." (Sura 32:13; cf.
again, Sura 19:71).

There is just no way this sura can be twisted to yield a meaning other
than that Muslims along with jinns shall be in Hell-fire. The sura is so
plain that any counter interpretation is impossible.

If Muhammad's words have any meaning for you, they mean that as
long as you are under Allah and in Islam, it is his will to fill Hell with you
and jinns. If you remain a Muslim, that will surely come to pass just as
Allah has said. So that you may be assured that Allah means business, his
intent to jampack you and all other Muslims into Hell-fire is reinforced
by Sura 11:118, 119.

But the true Bible God has an entirely different message, and a
totally different plan. He is not willing that you should go to Hell, but
that you should come to repentance and be saved.

The Lord is not willing that any should perish, but that all
should come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9).

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in
Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1).
From the teaching of Jesus we understand that the Bible God did not
prepare Hell for mankind, but for Satan and his rebellious angels
(Matthew 25:41). You will only end up there if you join Satan in
rebellion against God by rejecting the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.

Though you have belonged to a religion that has killed millions of
God's people, torn down His altar, sponsored demons to fight against
Him, even if you have personally shed Christian blood, or supported
those who have - whatever you may have done - God really loves you,
and always has. If you truly want to be forgiven, Jesus is stretching forth
His hands of love to receive you; for He also said:
Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden [i.e.
burdened with sins and guilt], and I will give you rest. (Matthew

The fact that Jesus prayed for His killers is all the reason you need to
believe in Him. He will have mercy on you if you humble yourself and
repent. Do not harden your heart by saying you believe in Jesus already.
You have not believed until you recognize that Jesus is the Son of God,
and accept the truth of His atoning death and resurrection. As a Hell-
bound sinner, nothing short of the shed blood of Jesus can save you:

The blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If
we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth
is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to
forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
(1 John 1:7-9).
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God is entering the fire polytheists, criminals and killers

Prophet Muhammad said to his daughter Fatima in order to continue in obedience to God's charity
And thus God's mercy and justice
will enter Fatima in paradise

Those who believe in Allahu ta'ala, live by His prohibitions and commandments, and like all of them, that is, those who die Muslims, will go to Paradise. Those who do the opposite of what has been said will go to Hell. By and large, people with good morals will go to Paradise while people with bad morals will go to Hell. A hadith-i sharif says (what means):
(Listen attentively; I am describing those who will go to Paradise: They are weak, downtrodden, and incapable. When they take an oath to do something, Allahu taala will certainly fulfill these Muslims' oaths. Listen, I am describing those who will go to Hell: They are severe and arrogant.) [Tirmidhi, Abu Dawud]

Which one is easier to attain?
Question: Is entering Paradise or entering Hell easier?
Both are easy. Those who believe correctly and die Muslims will go to Paradise while those who do not believe and die disbelievers will go to Hell.

It is very easy for those who follow their nafses to go to Hell and very difficult for them to go to Paradise. One does not have to refrain from any prohibitions to go to Hell, but there are many rules and regulations to be observed to be able to enter Paradise, i.e., first having a correct faith, then abstaining from prohibited things and performing acts of worship. As a matter of fact, two hadith-i sharifs say (what means):
(Hell is surrounded with things that the nafs likes while Paradise is surrounded with things that the nafs dislikes.) [Bukhari]

(Neither the one who desires Paradise nor the one who is afraid of Hell can sleep. Paradise is surrounded with obstacles. As for the world, it is filled with pleasures and lusts. Let its pleasures and lusts not distract you from Paradise.) [Ramuz]

Paradise is the tremendous reward which Allah (swt) has prepared for His beloved (awliyaa) and those who obey Him. It is complete joy and pleasure, where nothing is lacking and nothing can disturb its purity. What Allah (swt) and His Messenger have told us about it makes out heads spin because our minds are not able to comprehend the greatness of such blessings.

Listen to the words of Allah (swt) in this hadith qudsi: "I have prepared for My righteous slaves that which no eye has seen, no ear has heard and has never crossed the mind of any human being".

The joys of Paradise are far greater than the pleasures of this world, which pale into insignificance in comparison. Bukhaari reports from Sahl ibn Sa'd as-Sa'idee that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "A space the size of a whip in Paradise is better than this world and al that is in it".

Because admittance to Paradise and salvation from the Fire are according to Allah's will and judgement, it is a great victory and tremendous success, as Allah (swt) says: "....Only he who is saved far from the Fire and admitted to the Garden, will have indeed attained the object of life [or: been successful]" (Aale-Imran 3:185)

"Allah has promised to believers - men and women - Gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein [forever], and beautiful mansions in Gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of Allah. That is the supreme felicity [or success]". (At-Tauba 9:72)

"...and those who obey Allah and His Messenger will be admitted to Gardens with rivers flowing underneath, to abide therein [forever] and that will be the supreme achievement".(An-Nisa 4:13)

Admittance to Paradise

There is no doubt that the joy of the believers will be incomparable when they are led, group by honourable group, to the blessed Gardens of Paradise. When they reach Paradise, its gates will be opened for them, and they will be welcomed by noble angels congratulating them on their safe arrival after suffering so much hardship and witnessing so much horror: "And those who feared their Rabb will be led to the garden in crowds, until, behold, they arrive there; its gates will be opened and its keepers will say "Peace be upon you! Well have you done! Enter here, to dwell therein". (Sad 39:73)

In other words, your words, thoughts and deeds were good so your hearts and souls became pure and for that you deserve Paradise.

The Believers Will Be Purified Before They Enter Paradise

After the Believers have passed over as-Siraat (the bridge over Hell), they will be kept on a bridge between Paradise and Hell, where they will be purified by means of their settling any wrongs that existed between any of them in this world. Then when they enter paradise they will be pure and clean, none of them bearing any ill-will towards another or demanding anything of another. Bukhaari reported from Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri (ra) that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said:

"The believers will be saved from the Fire then they will be kept on a bridge between Paradise and Hell. They will settle their accounts with one another for any wrongs that existed between them in this world, until they are purified and cleansed, and will be permitted to enter Paradise. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, each of them will know his dwelling in Paradise better than he knew his dwelling in this world".




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I agree with you, however, that Jesus Christ was send as a messenger by God, nothing else. Jesus said so himself as quoted in John 7:16: "I am not teaching you my own thoughts, but those of God who sent me."

Much of the blame for distoring the mission of Jesus Christ belongs to the apostle Paul


Jesus Christ peace be upon him
Not sacrificed for any one

You have a disease
Then comes your brother
Receive treatment instead of you

Is this acceptable to the logic of the mind?

Death to the people who worshiped the calf is repentance
At the time of the Prophet Moses, peace be upon him

At the time of the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him

Law requires repentance from sin without having to death

Jesus Christ peace be upon him
Not sacrificed for any one

(the soul that sinneth, it shall die)

Each person is responsible for his actions

(the soul that sinneth, it shall die)

If a man is righteous and does what is lawful and right...he is righteous, he shall surely live...If he begets a son who...has done all these abominable things; he (the son) shall surely die...the son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father for the iniquity of the son. (Ezekiel 18:5-20)

Every one shall die for his own sin. (Jeremiah 31:30)

There is no need for God, a son of God, or even a Prophet of God to sacrifice himself for mankinds sins in order to buy forgiveness. Islam refuses this view entirely. The foundation of Islam rests on knowing with certainty that nothing should we worshipped but God alone. Forgiveness emanates from the One True God; so, when a person seeks forgiveness, he must turn to God submissively with true remorse and beg forgiveness, promising not to repeat the sin. Then and only then will sins be forgiven.

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Death To Those Who Leave Islam

Leaving Islam and this video won't be deleted in 30 minutes

Death penalty for leaving the religion of peace? Yup you got it.

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There you have said it again.........................And it is all a lie, created by the Jinns and their ruler(Satan) that rule your Ideology

Those who believe in Allahu ta'ala[/B],(So when I believe the bible and not your moon god, I will go to hell) live by His prohibitions and commandments, and like all of them, that is,

[B]those who die Muslims
,([I]I am not muslim, so I will go to hell)[/I] will go to Paradise.

Those who do the opposite of what has been said( Said by whom?mohhamed or the Bible?) will go to Hell.

By and large, people with good morals will go to Paradise while people with bad morals will go to Hell.(the bible says that all men are sinners and no one can enter heaven by good deeds or morals but by Gods grace and through His son Jesus Christ alone)

A hadith-i sharif says (what means):
(Listen attentively; I am describing those who will go to Paradise:

They are weak, downtrodden, and incapable.(Jesus came for the down trodden and the week,not for the strong and arrogant)

When they take an oath to do something, Allahu taala will certainly fulfill these Muslims' oaths. Listen, I am describing those who will go to Hell: They are severe and arrogant.) [Tirmidhi, Abu Dawud]

Which one is easier to attain?
Question: Is entering Paradise or entering Hell easier?
Both are easy. Those who believe correctly and die Muslims will go to Paradise while those who do not believe and die disbelievers will go to Hell.

The Bible says that all men not only Muslims,can go to the real heaven, not aljana,the real one,The heaven described in the Bible, if they repent and bow themselves down before the real God of the Bible,and acknowledge His son Jesus,not allah(the moon god).

It is quite obvious that you will never acknowledge the error of your ways, as you believe things that goes against the writings of your so called Prophet,and most of all the Bible, as you were most probably raised a Muslim, and does not live in the middle east, to see the horrors committed by Muslims daily.Europe is infected by this disease of Islam, and suffer greatly because of it, as the rapes, killings and lawlessness continues,but rest assured........the time of The true Lord(God) is coming and then you will see

The fact is:

Your god is a god of hate, My God is one of love
You will be killed if you leave your faith, I have a choice what to believe
Muslims wants to rule the world, Christians wants peace
It's allowed by your faith to rape, My God says it is from the devil
You are allowed 4 wives, The Bible allows one
You may take slaves, Christians despise it

You may kill non believers, Christians believe we have a choice and we do not kill.
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The Quran only specifically calls for the death penalty for two crimes. The first is for intentional murder. According to verse 2:178, the family of the victim can either demand the perpetrator's death for the crime, or accept monetary compensation instead. The second crime punished by execution literally translates to “spreading mischief in the land.”

in the Hadith suggest changing one’s religion alone is not enough to warrant execution. In fact,that penalty only applies to those who leave the faith and then are found to be working against the interests of the Islamic state.

Certainly if the apostate is hostile toward the Muslims and joins the enemy in a war against them, or tries to corrupt the Muslims in the Muslim lands by trying to convert them to his/her new deviant religion, then the matter becomes different. But if a Westerner today for instance embraces Islam for a while and then changes his position due to the overwhelming false anti-Islamic media, then certainly killing that person would be a grave sin and a big mistake.

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هل مات المسيح من أجل خطايانا؟ - د. لورنس براون
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One principle in the true Gospel true Torah and the Holy Koran

53. Say: "O 'Ibadi (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Surah Az-Zumar

Go directly to the Creator
He asked for forgiveness and remorse and not to return to sin again

There is no intermediary to reveal his mistakes

And take an instrument for forgiveness from the church

This is a particular delusion

The most important thing is the Ten Commandments, which will lead you to Islam easily

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- Hell
In the teachings of the Islamic religion
1 - includes the punishment the infidels and the polytheists, Jews, Christians and Hindus 00,000
Yet as a result of Removed from the oneness of God and its involvement

allah says in the Holy Qur'an
in the Holy Qur'an the name of God the Merciful ((72) They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.
(73) They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the third of three." And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment.
(74) So will they not repent to Allah and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
(75) . The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.
(76) Say, "Do you worship besides Allah that which holds for you no [power of] harm or benefit while it is Allah who is the Hearing, the Knowing?

(48) Indeed, All h does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with All h has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.

(31) Inclining [only] to Allah , not associating [anything] with Him. And he who associates with Allah - it is as though he had fallen from the sky and was snatched by the birds or the wind carried him down into a remote place.

6. And for those who disbelieve in their Lord (Allah) is the torment of Hell, and worst indeed is that destination.
7. When they are cast therein, they will hear the (terrible) drawing in of its breath as it blazes forth.
8. It almost bursts up with fury. Every time a group is cast therein, its keeper will ask: "Did no warner come to you?"
9. They will say: "Yes indeed; a warner did come to us, but we belied him and said: 'Allah never sent down anything (of revelation), you are only in great error.'"
10. And they will say: "Had we but listened or used our intelligence, we would not have been among the dwellers of the blazing Fire!"
11. Then they will confess their sin. So, away with the dwellers of the blazing Fire.
12. Verily! Those who fear their Lord unseen (i.e. they do not see Him, nor His Punishment in the Hereafter, etc.), theirs will be forgiveness and a great reward (i.e. Paradise).

2 - punishment includes Muslim hypocrites
This means that it is not a real Muslim
But pretending to do so
and fought Islam in secret
And the punishment of a Muslim hypocrite
More than the infidel
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(142) Indeed, the hypocrites [think to] deceive All h, but He is deceiving them. And when they stand for prayer, they stand lazily, showing [themselves to] the people and not remembering All h except a little,
(143) Wavering between them, [belonging] neither to the believers nor to the disbelievers. And whoever All h leaves astray never will you find for him a way.
(145) Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire and never will you find for them a helper

3 - punishment for a sinner Muslim who commits sins such as murder - adultery Gambling -usury ----
Sahih Al-Bukhari Narrated by Abu Huraira

The Prophet said, "Avoid the seven Great Destructive Sins." The people enquire, "O Allah`s Messenger (saws)! What are they? " He (saws) said:

"To join others in worship along with Allah,
to practice sorcery,
to kill the life which Allah has for bidden except for a just cause, (according to Islamic law),
to eat up riba (usury),
to eat up an orphan`s wealth,
to give back to the enemy and fleeing from the battlefield at the time of fighting,
and to accuse chaste women, who never even think of anything touching chastity and are good believers

4 - a Muslim who has good works and acts of bad in this world
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(102) And [there are] others who have acknowledged their sins. They had mixed a righteous deed with another that was bad. Perhaps Allah will turn to them in forgiveness. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

The solution here to all

Sincere repentance of the adulterer and the determination not to go back again and will accept the repentance of God
And speed to good deeds
You can repent to allah
And thus will not be subjected to punishment

allah says in the Holy Qur'an
(135) And those who, when they commit an immorality or wrong themselves [by transgression], remember Allah and seek forgiveness for their sins and who can forgive sins except Allah? and [who] do not persist in what they have done while they know.
(136) Those their reward is forgiveness from their Lord and gardens beneath which rivers flow [in Paradise], wherein they will abide eternally; and excellent is the reward of the [righteous] workers.
(68) And those who do not invoke with Allah another deity or kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed], except by right, and do not commit unlawful sexual intercourse. And whoever should do that will meet a penalty
(69) Multiplied for him is the punishment on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein humiliated
(70) Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful
(71) And he who repents and does righteousness does indeed turn to Allah with [accepted] repentance
(72) And [they are] those who do not testify to falsehood, and when they pass near ill speech, they pass by with dignity
(73) And those who, when reminded of the verses of their Lord, do not fall upon them deaf and blind
(75) Those will be awarded the Chamber for what they patiently endured, and they will be received therein with greetings and [words of] peace
(76) Abiding eternally therein. Good is the settlement and residence

(104) Do they not know that it is Allah who accepts repentance from His servants and receives charities and that it is Allah who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful?

Terrorism is secular-made NOT Islamic-made statisitcs

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Jihad in the Bible
Let us see what the Bible has to say about Jihad in the meaning of war and violence. The following verses are from the Bible, New International Version (NIV), 1984
"Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed." [Exodus 22:18-20]
"This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' The Levites did as Moses commanded and that day about three thousand of the people died." [Exodus 32:27-28]
"The LORD said to Moses, 'Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. (Moses ordered) "Now kill all the boys. And kill every women who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." [Numbers 31:1-18]
(Jesus said) "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me." [Luke 19:27]
"He (Jesus) said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." [Luke 22:36]
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Terrorism has nothing to do with Islam

Different teams

Shiites and other

The Christian and Jewish (Zionist)
The basis of terrorism in the world

Jihad is Completely different
Yes, my dear brother
This is a good question.

- At the beginning of the Islamic Dawa
There is no fighting
Peaceful invitation to the oneness of God

Legislation to fight
Came after an polytheists attack
On the blood and symptoms and Muslim money

Kill the infidels and the polytheists in the Holy Qur'an for several specific reasons and specific conditions

If someone assaults you and kill your children and your relatives and your package from your country by force
What will you do?

This exactly happened in the time of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

Polytheists and infidels tortured new Muslims unjustly

Killing infidels owners of the Messenger of Allah, without the right

Prevent the infidels from Muslim food and drink without the right

Infidels and take their money home without the right

Get out the infidels of Mecca, the Prophet without the right

Imagine with me all these terrible acts occurred

Only because they are Muslims

Therefore, the revelation came through Jibreel to the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

State in the Holy Qur'an

Must fight the polytheists as mohammed they killed unduly

You mohammed you have the right to kill them

36. Verily, the number of months with Allah is twelve months (in a year), so was it ordained by Allah on the Day when He created the heavens and the earth; of them four are Sacred, (i.e. the 1st, the 7th, the 11th and the 12th months of the Islamic calendar). That is the right religion, so wrong not yourselves therein, and fight against the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) collectively , as they fight against you collectively. But know that Allah is with those who are Al-Muttaqun

The peaceful infidels should not fight them or kill them at all

We have to talk to them about the message of Islam to respect

8. Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.

Depends on circumstances. Its only defensive. When life is at risk and to save them.

Dont you have military in your country for defense? Or they are use for mass murdering?

If people dont use Qur'an for their purpose and maintain exactly, then it offer only peace, nothing else.

32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!.

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The hadith related by Hakim and Bayhaqi, from Abu Sa`id (Allah be pleased with him), Whoever recites Surat al-Kahf on Friday, light shall shine forth for him between the two Fridays. [Ibn Hajar, Talkhis al-Habir]

Hazrat Al Baraa said that when a man was reciting Surah Kahf with a horse tied with two ropes at one side. Suddenly a cloud overshadowed him, and as it began to come nearer and nearer, his horse began to take fright. He went and mentioned it to the Holy Prophet sallallahu alaihe wasallam in the morning and he said, That was tranquillity which came down by reason of the Quraan.

Hazrat Abu Darda radiyallahu anhu reported Allahs Messenger sallallahu alaihe wasallam saying, If anyone memorises ten verses from the beginning of Surah Kahf, he will be protected from the Dajjal (Anti-Christ). (Muslim)

Hazrat Abu Darda radiyallahu anhu reported Allahs Messenger sallallahu alaihe wasallam saying, Anyone who reads the first three verses of Surah Kahf, he will be protected from the trial of the Dajjal (Anti-Christ). (Tirmizi)

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Islamic Terror: In the Name of Allah

Why Islamic Terrorists Commit Attacks
- In Their Own Words

"I am one of the servants of Allah. We do our duty of fighting for the sake of the religion of Allah. It is also our duty to send a call to all the people of the world to enjoy this great light and to embrace Islam and experience the happiness in Islam...

"Our primary mission is nothing but the furthering of this religion."

Osama bin Laden, May 1998

Aside from pursuing mass murder plots against innocent populations in every corner of the planet, Islamic terrorists have one other thing in common: They credit their motivation and success to religion.

Islam isn't hijacked by extremists - it is what inspires them. This distinguishes Islamic terrorism from mere criminal activity, and it is part of what makes Islam so very, very different from other religions.

Many people prefer to bury their heads in the sand or look for ways to re-cast Islamic terror to fit their own political agenda, but the fact is that violent Muslims are quite explicit about the religious certainty that compels their actions.

The teachings and early history of Islam that explain the violence are discussed elsewhere on this site. Here we just want to show that, as far as Islamic terrorists are concerned, their acts are done explicitly in the name of Allah and for the cause of Islam and Islamic rule... across the globe.

[The Taliban are] "a simply band of dedicated youths determined to establish the laws of Allah on earth... The Taliban will fight until there is no blood in Afghanistan left to shed, and Islam becomes a way of life four our people."

Mullah Omar, Taliban leader

"Our animosity is based on religion. We hate Americans for their secular ideology."

Tehrik-e-Taliban spokesman Ihsanullah Ihsan explaining why his group of terrorists are opposed to the American presence in Afghanistan.

"In the name of Allah the Avenger, I swear on the holy book to perform my sacred duty as a soldier of Islam in this Jihad to restore to this world the light of divine justice... Allah demands no less. For to die in the cause is to be sent immediately to paradise."

A Taliban official.


“But the coming Islamic caliphate country will not rise except at the hands of the fighting sect who raises the flag of Allah and Jihad.”

Statement from the Salafi terrorist group, one of several fundamentalist cells responsible for the slaughter of 150,000 men women and children in the 1990’s.

"Our Jihad consists of killing and dispersing all those who fight against Allah and his Prophet."

"Throat-slitting and murder until the power is Allah's!"

Both quotes from leaders of the Armed Islamic Group (GIA). The first spoken by Sid Ahmed Mourad, the second from Abdelkader Hattab.
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Why I left ‘Islam’ and chose not to return

(More leave Islam than there are coming to Islam)

This is a guest post by Soran Tarkhani. He is of Kurdish origin from Iraqi Kurdistan. In addition to working as an assistant lecturer at Salahaddin University in Erbil and is currently pursuing his PhD in political science.

On reading Sidra Mahmood’s response to the VICE News documentary ‘Rescuing Ex-Muslims: Leaving Islam’, I experienced extreme disappointment. Not on account of her response being similar to all those death threats we ex-Muslims often receive for being merely who we are, but more specifically because I realised that even this person who was supposedly once an ex-Muslim herself, still doesn’t want to admit the simple fact that Islam itself is the main reason for leaving it in the first place. Simplifying ex-Muslims issues as though they were just a social issue, clearly demonstrates why Muslims are not yet ready to address this important issue.

To be honest, most ex-Muslims don’t leave Islam because they are not permitted to wear jeans or to watch fireworks. Many Muslims do wear jeans and watch fireworks in their own countries, although they would still harm you if they found out that you had left Islam. Those who leave Islam do so because they value the truth. Leaving Islam is carried out as a result of a long journey to seek the truth concerning the faith. It is a complete misunderstanding to equate disbelief with an attempt to escape a bad relationship with Mohammed, whilst hoping to fall in love again with another better person. This is a complete misunderstanding.

The title of Sidra Mahmood’s article infers that the problem experienced by ex-Muslims is not merely an Islamic problem. She introduces herself as a previous ex-Muslim, who has since returned to Islam, after understanding it’s true essence. In other words, she seems to be making the claim that ex-Muslims are those who don’t understand Islam, buttressed by her personal experience. However, she doesn’t offer any compelling arguments that apostasy is merely a social issue as a result of misunderstanding of Islam.

First and foremost apostasy, the renunciation of a previously held religious faith, is not a new phenomenon in the Islamic world, often attributed to the new age of the internet. Some of the first historical records of Islam, recovered after the death of Mohammad, give an account of war waged upon apostates. Abu Bakr, the first caliph and successor of Mohammad, engaged in a war known as ‘The Reddeh Wars -Wars of Apostasy’ (632- 633 AD). The apostates of the time were told to re-join Islam or face the sword resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands that no longer wished to submit. Unsurprisingly perhaps, the traditional Islamic methods of dealing with apostasy have not changed in the past 14 centuries. According to the Law Library of Congress on apostasy (2014), the vast majority of Muslim countries, (including Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Brunei, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen), still carry out legal sanctions for apostasy. Even in a country like Malaysia, which has a moderate Muslim majority in their population, 62% still actively support the death penalty for apostasy (2013 Pew Research Center). Furthermore, a vast majority of Muslims favor Sharia Law over civil contemporary laws, even including those Muslims born in Western countries (2014 Pew Research Center).

To clarify the Islamic stance on apostasy, and how it’s directly related to the doctrine itself, I’m provide here some of the main related Quranic verses and Hadiths :


Quran (4:89) – They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.

Quran (9:11-12) – But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief – Lo! they have no binding oaths – in order that they may desist.

Hadith and Sira

Bukhari (52:260) – …The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’

Bukhari (83:37) – Allah’s Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate.

Bukhari (84:57) – [In the words of] Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.’

Bukhari (84:64-65) – Allah’s Apostle: ‘During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.’

Abu Dawud (4346) – Was not there a wise man among you who would stand up to him when he saw that I had withheld my hand from accepting his allegiance, and kill him?

While there are other religions that similar harsh measures for those that dare to dissent, those edicts have fallen to the way side. Only in the Muslim world do we still see widespread enforcement and violent retribution for those of us following our conscience. Both major branches of Islam, (Shia and Sunni) at the current moment, support Islamic Sharia Law which dictates that apostates must be sentenced to death.

A fatwa, in the Islamic faith, is the name given to a legal interpretation of Islamic law issues by a learned person, or ‘judge’. Al-Azhar describes apostasy as one of the most heinous of crimes and impels Muslims to kill an apostate immediately if he/she refuses to return to the Islam faith (Dr. Andrew Bostom, 2011). The majority of prominent scholars working in both branches of Islam still postulate that Islamic ‘Sharia’ is the most appropriate way to deal with an issue of apostasy.

Sidra Mahmood, along with others, cites the first part of the verse (2:256) from the Quran as obvious proof that Islam does not prohibit apostasy. She nevertheless disregards the part which clearly defines apostates and non-Muslims as wrong and who mislead people who distrust Allah’s sincere and trustworthy words. I had deeply hoped that apostates held some place within Muslims’ hearts and in Islam. Unfortunately unlike Sidra’s Islam most Muslims do not regard their religion as an open cafeteria from which one can pick and choose elements to satiate ones desires…

Ex-Muslims, born and migrating to Western societies still experience the same problems, are subject to the same threats and social rejection as their counterparts living in Muslim majority societies. The rights of ex-Muslims cannot be achieved merely by dismissive expressions of empathy. The first step to solving a problem is recognizing that there is one…

I titled this article ‘Why I left Islam, and chose not to return’, because I value the truth and yet am afraid of reprisal. However, I can’t simply deceive myself that the earth is flat, that the moon was split in half by a magical figure or by 7th century tribesmen riding on the back of winged horses, from Mecca to space in the blink of an eye. After reading through the Sira ‘Biography’ of Mohammad,’ I would be lying if I suggested I could ever consider him a role model. After studying Islamic history in some detail, I can’t agree that the founder of Islam was a ‘Mercy for Mankind’. I simply can’t close my eyes to what the Quran and Hadiths actually claim. I fully appreciate how hard it is to be an apostate, but I refuse to dismiss my conscience and pretend to subscribe to something I wholeheartedly disagree with.

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