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Old 01-01-2012, 08:51 PM
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Welcome to 2012

While America was out partying last night, drinking it up and celebrating the end of 2011, Obama quietly signed the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, which nullifies the Bill of Rights and declares America to be a "battleground" in which all American citizens can be arrested, imprisoned, tortured and even killed with no due process.

You don't even have to be charged with a crime. Now, thanks to Obama, the military can simply "disappear" you.

"President Obama's action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law," said Anthony D. Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

With this signing, Obama has cemented his position as the most traitorous U.S. President in history, not merely violating his promise to close Guantanamo Bay and end the military's secret prisons, but actually expanding the power of those secret prisons over ALL Americans.
The two most important issues in America right now are the NDAA (just signed by Obama) and SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act, a way for the government to take down any websites it does not like). The battle rages on over SOPA, and if SOPA passes, it will mean the end of all "alternative" news websites.
Just so you know, we are all fighting for our basic liberties here. Obama has betrayed the nation, but he is also awakening the nation to the simple truth that Big Government is the enemy of freedom. If we do not correct these injustices, soon the internet will be "cleansed" of all "non-compliant" websites and your Republic will be lost forever.
Welcome to 2012, You are all now enemies of the state!

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Old 01-01-2012, 10:50 PM
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I just watched the video, still not sure, whats the solution? They basically only said that currency will be global and that people will have more power in banks, without giving any detail.

Heres my IMHO, The whole purpose of an economy is to determine the means of the masses.

The means of the masses have to be controlled. Earth has finite space with finite materials. I dont think there can be such thing as a "utopia" with finite space. In "utopia" anyone could recieve anything they want, when they want it, in whatever portion that they want it to be. That simply is NOT possible on planet earth. I wish it could be different, but this is reality.

There are two very distinct economic paths to take from the conclusion that earth has finite space.

Path #1 (Equal Means)
Every man, woman and child will have equal means. No one will be rich, no one will be poor. Everyone will have a job. Everyone will have one house. Everyone will have one piece of land. Everyone will have one car. You cannot buy another house, only trade houses for a better location. (however people who are already in better locations probably wont want to trade with you). In this system you are assigned your means by the government.
This is more of a communism/socialism path.

Path #2 (Equal Freedom)
Every man, woman and child will have equal freedom. You can be rich, or you can be poor. You can have many jobs, or you can have no job. You can buy one house, or many houses. The more wealth you earn is the more means that you have. In this system you earn your means.
This a more of a free market capitalism path.

Im no expert and have limited knowledge but from my understanding every economy is based on one of these two principals with a degree of each. Either way the means of the masses are controlled. They HAVE to be with finite space.

They say free market capitalism doesnt work in that video. That any debt based economy doesnt work. Why not? Dont they realize its not the system thats corrupting people? Its the people thats corrupting the system. Prosperity will always trickle down in free market capitalism. Weather or not you Choose to take advantage of that prosperity is on YOU. No one can force anyone to get into debt. Why dont people understand that? I agree banks have done a major disservice by convincing people they can afford large houses but that doesnt excuse the responsibility people have needed to take to educate themselves about the ramifications of debt itself. Its human nature to want more, but we all have to be responsible enough to operate inside our own means.

In a new world order, to give those same people more power in banking i think would be just a disastrous. These are the people who didnt understand what debt would do to them. These are the people who already did not operate inside theyre means.

There is no magic pill for a perfect economy. Every economy is based soley on the responsibility of the masses. Even Path#1 would fail if everyone decided they were tired of having equal means and no longed wanted to work everyday. Or if large portions of people decided to live outside of theyre means. It would collapse that system just as fast.

Earth has finite space.
Therefore we all have finite means.
That will never change.
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gold and silver pricing

Here is a good video showing the money system cycles we have been through and that we are indeed on the verge of having a new "system" http://theelevationgroup.net/gold-an...ld-and-silver/
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:24 PM
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transformation coming

Just watched the video - would be nice if true. Claims sound like "NESARA", which I always thought was a hoax.

Not saying what this guy is saying is a hoax, just that the goals of wiping out debt, etc... are the same claims.

I think it should be wiped out since it is fraudulence debt anyway (national debt).

Anyway, some big transformation in on the horizon no matter what it is.

This is a good history of our money systems: The Secret of Oz - Winner, Best Docu of 2010 v.1.09.11 - YouTube
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To all thinking that economy is the solution : take 100$, look at it, smell it , feel it and think what you can buy with it. Then imagine situation when solar eruption wiped all banks, stock market etc. and try to make sandwich from this 100$ paper

There is third way....simple way.... I call it : equal needs

You may want something but you don't need it,on opposite corner - you need something which you may even do not want to.You just require to eat to drink to keep warm clean body etc.
Proof that you need something and proof that it's good and you get it. You can even have what you want if you build it yourself from what you needed and if it's good (not harm to others).

It's just a starting point... sorry, my English is limited...
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:19 AM
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To all thinking that economy is the solution : take 100$, look at it, smell it , feel it and think what you can buy with it. Then imagine situation when solar eruption wiped all banks, stock market etc. and try to make sandwich from this 100$ paper

There is third way....simple way.... I call it : equal needs

You may want something but you don't need it,on opposite corner - you need something which you may even do not want to.You just require to eat to drink to keep warm clean body etc.
Proof that you need something and proof that it's good and you get it. You can even have what you want if you build it yourself from what you needed and if it's good (not harm to others).

It's just a starting point... sorry, my English is limited...
thats a simple way to look at it but everyone always wants more than they need. thats the reason debt has exploded. debt is just a device to give people more of what they want not what they necessarily need.
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Just watched the video - would be nice if true. Claims sound like "NESARA", which I always thought was a hoax.
Yes, Aaron, it does sound a lot like NESARA, which I also thought was a hoax. I posted my reasons for thinking that way, and also pointed to some serious concerns about the plan itself. This new presentation sounds just as shady to me as the NESARA one. My first impression is that this was placed on the Internet to test public opinion and perception, and that this is why it was introduced through a back door, so to speak. This way, the Ruling Class elite can either deny knowledge of such a plan, or can attempt to improve on the production to make it more credible, if the public doesn't buy the story. I don't buy it, and by the looks of the comment section of the video it would appear that nearly all viewers were very skeptical, especially where it is said that the dark side has come over to the light. Fat chance of that, especially where everything they planned has worked out almost perfectly so far. The NWO grab for a one world government and currency would complete their plan, and it is not difficult to see this is exactly what this presentation is pushing for.
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They are organized, well funded, and have time on their side. Most of all they possess superior math. 250 people have read this so far. If it were a million it would be but a drop in the ocean. Don't kidd yourselves. The senieros have been played over and over by experts. Best case, worst case. What they don't know, is what can't be calculated by a computer or think tank. Their superior egos will be their undoing. Call it what you want, evolution, mother nature, god, cosmic intervention. Oh yes, the New World Order will come. But, it will surely fail, eventually. There's always Murphy and his laws and someone hanging around to throw a monkey wrench into the works. I wouldn't count on the first vid dude coming through. The writings on the wall. Bad and good times are a comming. Just like it's always been throughout history. Be kind to eachother but keep one eye open at all times.
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Amazing video, thanks Moe R!
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Ditto

This is a video that should be shown on the nightly news yet it is precisely why the MSM is still doing its best to avoid talking about him. That his ideas should be given wide spread coverage is way too scary for the powers-that-be. People might begin to see the logic behind his ideas and horror of horrors might actually start to resonate with them.

Then the people might start to question just what really are the goals of these elite? That this could happen not only scares the hell out of them but has them actually terrified. Thus we see all the stops pulled out to discredit him. Yet if all this blatant censorship starts to become blatantly obvious it could backfire on them.
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