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Old 02-13-2017, 12:29 AM
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Exclamation Rick Friedrich R-Charge Scam

This just came up in Google when looking for some EnergenX links:

Read the blog -

In the early to mid 2000’s, Rick Friedrich proposed a business deal to EnergenX, Inc., a company headed up by a world famous electrical engineer, John Bedini. Rick Friedrich’s desire was to private label battery chargers and rejuvenators built by John Bedini’s company. Rick Friedrich‘s company name was Renaissance Charge or R-Charge for short.

Rick Friedrich signed a non-disclosure agreement with EnergenX and promised to respect the confidentiality of John Bedini’s proprietary information that went into the chargers. This intellectual property was the sole property of John Bedini and EnergenX.

A few years ago, around 2011, it was discovered that Rick Friedrich had been involved in some shady business deals with many customers in addition to discovering the disappearance of hardware that was the property of EnergenX. It was also discovered that Rick Friedrich had been accessing John Bedini’s computers by sneaking into the building at night and going through the files.

There were also some energizer kits based on John Bedini’s “SG” designs that were manufactured and distributed by Rick Friedrich. One of the larger units was sold by him to someone for thousands of dollars. As soon as Rick Friedrich of R-Charge had this money, he immediately commenced to sell this exact same unit to someone else for the same amount of money. This is one of countless incidents that Rick Friedrich had done to a number of customers.

This quickly became the normal course of operation for Rick Friedrich and John Bedini and his associates and company wanted nothing more to do with him or his way of doing business. Rick Friedrich‘s relationship with EnergenX was immediately terminated and he got the boot. Immediately, Rick Friedrich began to manufacture and sell battery chargers based on EnergenX’s proprietary circuits, albeit older obsolete ones, but nevertheless, this was all in complete violation of the non disclosure agreement that he signed with EnergenX.

Since then, EnergenX and its distributors have collectively received many dozens of complaints from customers because of purchasing battery chargers and never receiving product. These complaints included the fact that they never received customer service. Many of these complaints also included the fact that many of the chargers did not work, worked a short time or simply did not do as claimed. What surprised everyone is when they learned that Rick Friedrich and R-Charge actually had no further relationship with EnergenX and that he was illegally selling low quality bootlegged versions of John Bedini’s chargers.

To this day, Rick Friedrich continues to sell his low quality pirated versions of these chargers and he also holds mini-conferences claiming to be an expert in “free energy” technologies. He claims to be a man of God and most of his websites are dedicated to him preaching the Gospel to others. This is all one big hypocritical act because the truth is that he is nothing more than a common thief and we challenge him to prove otherwise.

If you have been personally ripped off or hoodwinked by Rick Friedrich the charlatan, we invite you to please contact us and submit your story. If you can include your real name, email, mailing address and phone number, we are going to compile all of these complaints and submit them to the Attorney General as long as various federal agencies because the time has come for his dog and pony show to come to and end.

Please let us know if we can post your complaint publicly on this website. We will remove your personal contact information but would like to list your name and location. If you want to remain anonymous, we will respect that as well. If you do not want us to list your complaint at all, that is fine and we will simply reserve it for the Attorney General.

Please submit your complaints here: https://rickfriedrich.wordpress.com/contact/

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Old 02-15-2017, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pentarbe View Post
This just came up in Google when looking for some EnergenX links:
Hi pentarbe, the following is a response from Rick Friedrich:

Personal Attacks against me for promoting Free Energy Technology.

Recently I decided to finally give a response to the slander of John
Bedini against me and set the record straight considering that he has
recently passed away and never bothered to clear up a slander he published
against me. I ignored this for about four years as he was the type to want
to fight about things and I wasn't going to satisfy him in that way. After
I recently posted a series of videos of John and I working together and
details about our relationship in these matters I expected some more
attacks which have now started. Here are my videos that give a little
sliver of the real story:

Why John Bedini and Rick Friedrich Parted Ways.

Bedini Tesla Switch, What's wrong with it? It KILLS Batteries!

John C Bedini 14' Ferris Wheel Presentation at the Nov 2010 Renaissance
Charge Convention.

John C Bedini 14' Ferris Wheel Construction Typical Day in the Shop Part 1

John C Bedini 14' Ferris Wheel Construction Typical Day in the Shop Part 2

John C Bedini 14' Ferris Wheel Construction Pre-Convention Setup Part 3

John C Bedini Motors Closeup from 2005. Original 1984 Tesla Switch

[The next video only indirectly pertains to what I am saying here, and
that is that I had a close relationship with John and we did many videos
together like this.]
Howard Johnson's Original Trains Demonstration with John Bedini and Rick

The following in quotation was posted on a website and reposted on a
competitors forum by a person who is unwilling to share who they are,
which should be a sign that their attacks are cowardly and mistaken. See
if you can connect the dots:

“In the early to mid 2000’s, Rick Friedrich proposed a business deal to
EnergenX, Inc., a company headed up by a world famous electrical engineer,
John Bedini.”

In the mid 2000's I volunteered to help people in finding free energy
systems. Renaissance Charge was later started to sell battery chargers
invented by several people, one of whom was me. The idea of each charger
and much of its functionality was created by me. I never signed any
contract with any company pertaining to these chargers. They were a mutual
effort. I did the testing of them and it was my label that was always on
these chargers. There is no patent on these chargers. And Energenx patents
expired two years ago, and I never violated their patents with these
chargers. I have presented video evidence of these facts.

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Old 02-15-2017, 04:21 PM
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non disclosure agreement

so lets just say JB sent me a copy of Ricks non disclosure... so Rick is a liar, I have seen the non disclosure myself. when John emailed it to rick a copy of it, he accused them of forgery. but you see I was there when he signed it, we did it at the same time in front of Gary. we were all there and saw it first hand. I have never seen anyone who says so much while saying so little, its always a he said -he said with him, and whoever has the hours to write nonsense wins.

its almost impossible to answer him because he is so verbose, it would take hours and hours to respond to each point. that is his mode of operation, talk so much, lie so consistently that you just wave your hands and walk away.

There was a time when he worked in concert with JB of course, there was a time when I worked closely with him also. John initiated the termination of the working relationship with him for so many reasons.

over half of what he posted is just simply a lie, he is a pathalogical liar. I talked with Ronda B and she asked me if there was any way to get his crap off of youtube, the Bedini's were screwed over by him so many times and so many ways. Eventually we will put up some info that will be plain for all to see.

I asked him to remove my testimonial video from his website and even sent him the case law to show how it was illegal to continue to use it. he refused, and said i could sue him.

This can quickly become a shouting match, but you only have to know a few things. those of us, all of us that were closest to him, those that helped him at the conferences for free, those that put in 20+ hours for a week, that moderated his forums and handled warranty emails for free, all of us, as a man have repudiated his business and his dealings. He screwed over his investors.

I know the guy who paid for that 30 coil machine, it was meant to be a research tool. Rick sold it to some chinese investors, and did not tell my friend who paid 13 grand to have it built. oh he sold it for 30K my friend was apoplectic when he heard about it.

rick did all of this without John and Gary's permission. John actually told the chinese not to buy it, but they did anyway.

I have pictures of me in china with the investors, I did not know the 30 coil went their until I saw it in their lab. they asked me to come over and do some work with the machines, this was after their relationship with Rick went south.

rick, who claims to be a man of God, mocked my faith publicly in front of His family, and in front of Ronda and John, when we were at dinner at the first sandpoint conference.

if he has changed good for him, but he needs to come clean in his dealings.

the time will come when he will have to pay for his dealings.

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Old 02-16-2017, 06:31 AM
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Rick's response:

Who is the liar Tom? Now I have you on record as a liar. You were there
when? You came around a few times, and I believe only to one convention
(and maybe Sandpoint also). Are you saying I signed some document in front
of you?? What a joke. What year was that? 2005 when I first visited? You
were not even around then. If they wanted me to sign something it would
have been at the beginning when I saw everything and even filmed it. But
in fact John wanted me and my staff to sign NDS's when we were moving away
in 2012! We just laughed about that yesterday. You were not there when we
were leaving or at the beginning. You do not have proof as I do. So do I
put your name on a paper and tell everyone you have a NDA with me? I'm
sure everyone will believe that. I'm sure you were also there when they
signed the Magna Carta which makes you so credible Tom. You can make up
whatever story you want, but it will not fit with the facts. People sign
NDAs before they see private information. You were never around, only a
few times. You were not around at the beginning. So you just proved you
are a liar. You and Koorn stand to gain as my competition. Everyone can
see this. You make yourself like some kind of big player in all this, but
you were just a groupy. I know what that was like as I fell into that
myself at the beginning. But it is time for children to grow up and stop
idolizing a man who was not what you make him out to be. You don't even
know what he said about you and Koorn and others like you. He cared less
about you. I recorded him at the end saying so much stuff about people
like you. He had little respect for anyone. You guys never knew what you
were doing and never understood the technology. People saw that. Marcia
did a better job of moderating. You guys tried but you never really got
how this stuff works. But it was clear you just wanted to be part of the
action and a cool guy in the mix. So you betrayed me in the end and you
served your master. And no you really didn't know him. I knew these guys
for years daily. You just came to visit a few times to listen to stories.
You and Koorn knew nothing of the day to day operations at Energenx.
People who came around a few times a year had no idea of what happened. I
showed in video what it was like for everyone to see. This contradicts
everything you guys say.

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Old 02-16-2017, 10:11 AM
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What a sly dog this guy Rick is, telling people to do something
constructive and at the end he sort of threatens like
watch it you will be sorry poke.

Rick is the one who is sorry now because John let us all know how
you went behind his back. The other gentlemen has always been true
to John B. and now we are suppose to fall down and tremble in Ricks

Give me a break. Rick you are deranged, you are the fabricator a
sneak and a back stabber. At least when we deal with others they tell
us what they think but not you Rick, you go around behind our backs
and try to come off as some holy man/god=man.

How insulting to the self existent one. You would be better off having a
few beers and cuss at people, speaking your true mind but you slink
around projecting yourself as this super gift of your little god who steals
stuff and won't feel bad about it.

When I see your video's I want to puke. You make me sick with your
suedo-spirituallaity, trying to put fear onto others for coming against
your lies that will be pointed out.

No one is afraid of you here, we know the truth. You are a thief and a liar
who wants to be welcomed back into the group without regard for your
actions to one of the greatest leaders of the free energy world.

I do not respect you and no one else will either. A gutless guy.

Prancing around folding your hands in Jesus name-When Jesus
told you to drop to your knees when you are wrong and cry out.

Not you, you want everyone to fall down and pray to you for your
guidance as some sort of free energy guru who deserves everyone's

You got to ask forgiveness and I see no sign of that, the average
guys does that when he is wrong, but not you Rick. You are a basket
case of freaky spirits from hell as far as I can see.

Now maybe you can change someday. For now what I see is your
demand to be honored for what you have selfishly beaten out of an
generous man.

Now go and sin no more or I'll dig up your whole story where people
got ripped off by you every time they turn around. I get ticked when
people like you threaten others when they correct you.

I have seen how you delete all of the facts of the real details on
your YOUTUBE video's thinking you are going to silence those who
correct you or question your repentance.

Nope, not you, you just delete the truth and hide your lies, I have watched
over your video's, this is how you think you can control what gets heard
and what gets swept under the rug.

I am sure you are or seem like a nice guy on the surface but that is
not the point here. Now you have been told the truth. Finally.

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Well as you can see everyone, it was like I said, he writes so much and says so little. it would take hours and hours to unwind the fable that is ricks response.

This stuff so easily can turn into a cat fight.

it is often the case with Rick that he wraps a lie in the truth and then expounds upon it.

I moderated the yahoo groups until the Day John Bedini had them shut down and moved to energy science forum. they were John's, his name and he was the owner.

Hundreds of emails from hundreds of disgruntled customers, non responsive from Rick and Dan, all he said was please forward, so we did. still have them from the yahoo groups...

Brett programmed those chargers, not Rick. Brett would work all night and be found asleep at his desk in the mornings. an amazing man who did amazing work.

I was at all of the conventions except year 1 of the ferris wheel, which was 2011 I believe, and worked all of them for free. Rick promised us a hotel room for 2012 and we ended up sleeping on the floor of his shop upstairs, and we showered with a water hose attached to a sink.

I worked on all the machines including the 30 coil machine, the 12 coil with the slant rotor, along with Erik and Josh. they were not designed by Rick, but by another person. That person was never paid for molds, design, work or cad work. he was just able to sell parts. talked with him today as a matter of fact....

I got the 4 pole junior and senior running, there was not enough power from the trigger so I had to scavenge a few wires to get more to the base circuits, you don't remember that Rick because you were not there, but John B was.

I worked on the trailer for the 20 foot ferris wheel that Rick never built, I helped wind tiny window motor coils, and assembled kits with Rick's dad, I worked on the lawnmower till midnight several nights, along with Samuel shoham from Israel.

After Rick departed, I talked with many people that surrounded him in Idaho. Melissa, who was Johns shop tech, neighbors, former employees like vitalie, and mostly Gary and John Himself.

as far as my sales. I told you the cost that people would be able to bear in the market I was selling to. I told you how much cash I had. and what the owners were willing to pay. I would have bought 24 of them, if you could have got the cost down, but glad I did not, they only lasted a few years. I asked John why they broke, he showed me where Rick had swapped out components to save money. once he actually told Melissa to use the wrong resistor in a circuit, that whole batch of potted control boards went bad in the field. John had a fit. I heard this from John myself.

I have personally seen 12 to 1 on the bench and have looped and self run... but you see I honor The NDA that I did sign, so I don't show or talk about things that I was asked not to. so lets just say that you telling me I don't know what I am talking about is a crock.

you did not go to china rick, because you are Canadian, and could not get a passport to travel, that is what you told me.

you see what I mean everyone, its a lie wrapped in a nugget of truth, He did not go to china, but his reason for why is wrong...

I am sorry I do not have time to answer all of the things Rick has said. but lets just say they are almost all lies.

Rick is a pathological liar, it gets lost in his verbosity. so much to say so many stories, so much untrue.

so many people burned and a path of destruction in his wake.

People have met me and know me...... they know how I conduct business, they know how Teslagenx handles phone calls, emails, texts and warranty. I paid John up front for every unit sold, paid in advance for every charger or tracker ordered, we handle all of the warranty our self, including all repairs, including shipping damage.

When the acrylic kits were selling and sold out, we gave people money back that did not get theirs.

There are still people out there that have not received, DVD's, kits. kit parts, chargers, and components from Rick. TO THIS DAY.

enough said, I am thru with this.

Bottom line is, Rick knew nothing when he met John, still knows nothing, all his circuits are John's or Peters,

I have drawings form the early 80's that show rick's supposed loving paths circuits.

his dual pole motors, are from a machine John made in '96

the machine with the north south magnets, with the S1 switch, is something he worked on with John.

nothing of Ricks is original. he Designed nothing. Johns circuits, Johns chargers, Johns solar trackers.

Rick would be nothing without John Bedini.

Rick burned his bridge with John and hundreds of people over the last decade.

I am done here.

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Ricks response:

Now we all can see that you worship John (see countless examples).
As everyone can see, Tom focuses on what he wants to and fails to respond
to what is important. He runs away because he is only here to try and
create suspicion and slander to profit his own business. I am not here to
prove myself innocent but simply to bring attention to the truth. I have
admitted that I have let people down. Tom cannot admit any mistakes and
also claims that Bedini and camp never made a mistake. So who seems
realistic to everyone? Someone who actually wasn't there but acts like he
was? Someone who only stands to gain by attacking me? Someone who gives no
credit where it is due? I give Bedini credit and will show that in a video
this weekend. But I will not say he invented sliced bread as Tom and his
groupies want you to believe. It is hard to say really what John actually
invented. Almost everything I have seen of his work I see others did
before him. So why is Tom attacking me? Not just because he wants to build
up his business, but because the Mystique of Bedini is being threatened by
me showing the history and what Bedini didn't give to the world. Look
people, I would not do any of this for any other reason than I get
countless people in the FE community all over the world contacting me and
revealing their confusion about these things and wasting their time and
money with fairy tales. It is time to point people in the right direction
and not point them to some 'Legend' that kept us all in a mystery and
never used the technology he claimed he had, and how he never sold you
anything practical along those lines. Yes, John did not give you kits, I
did. He said not to do it. He said people didn't deserve it. All who read
his countless emails know this attitude. Even the generator he did put out
in the 80s didn't do anything practical at all. I had one for a long time
and it didn't do anything. I also had access to his museum which had the
originals for years. So the public has a right to know and they have asked
me these questions countless times for 13 years now: Why didn't John use
free energy himself? Why did he not sell it? Why did he not make things
clear? The only suggestion is a conspiracy theory that he gave us that
cannot be verified: He was threatened by two agency thugs to buy gas the
rest of his life. Many people will then justify all his actions, and even
actions against me and so many other people, because of this one
unverifiable tale. The skeptics think it is because he really didn't have
anything. The followers believe everything he said. But the truth is that
he did have a lot of things figured out, but that he got that from others
and just didn't let you know that. Why is Tom so upset with me sharing
this and getting to the real truth of the matter?

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Rick you're dealing with specific details based on your warped
view of the world. Your long essay tells us that YOU are the reason
John's kits got built because John was a bad man by keeping them
from the public. But you saved us, didn't you?

This is mental. Here you put yourself above John telling the world
John is wrong, had nothing of his own so you were sent by God to
right these wrongs. Your so called "LOVING CIRCUITS" video's are
nothing more than a further assessment that you are freely giving away secrets that you had to take from John because John was wrong to
with withhold them. All of this out of love?

Love does not steal and lie.

Your she said he said they said of specific events pale in comparison
to your self proclaimed righteous bullying thinking how smooth you
must have thought you were sitting in John's offices premeditating
your strategy.

Plus you justify everything you did as Holy and good. You want people
to think John had nothing without you. This a joke of course.

You have called John a hypocrite and unrighteous in his deeds, for this
you have strengthened yourself in your resolve to formulate your plan
to violate your agreements to keep secrets.

At the same time mocking behind John's back in your emails sent to
others who were possible candidate in your fundraiser. Your words now
and your words in the secret emails reveal the same RICK.

John has been sharing his findings for many decades before you came
along and had always given freely. The SSG for beginners is still an
important contribution to the world today. You were not born yet.

You have not surprised or fooled anyone but yourself. It is unthinkable
to steal and justify yourself as a hero to the people putting John down
for not doing what he did not want to do.

John is a great man and always stated that people should build his
circuits first then they could make it better later. Each person can
do more or something new in the next 40 years and this is John's

John's dream came true. John started great things. Rick is a freak
show who thinks people will side with his methods that he thinks
that the end justifies the means. Like some sort of war hero Rick
wants us to pat him on the back for his evil venom biting the hand
that fed him. The great man that took him under his wing.

This is unthinkable. Rick thinks that people will thank him for revealing
that John was a fraud and a liar. How nice.

What a great guy Rick is. Thanks so much Rick for your evaluation.

It is these types of spirits that with be held in chains of everlasting
contempt, tormented in the presences of Christ and HIS Holy angels.

You see to these manifestations Ricks torment is and will always be that
he can never out do one of the greatest inventors of all time. Try tho he may.

No unclean thing will be permitted. Rick is the manifestation of many
unclean spirits. Legion.


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Angry Re: Rick

Religion + $$$ = a "Draco" tool....

To barrow a phrase.. " You will know them by their works"

A man who speaks ill of the dead is "A" coward....'nuff said
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well there you have it!! Mr verbosity strikes again. such a tool.... never heard of a comma or a page break...

now you understand why over here on the west coast we have kept our mouths shut about him it was easier to ignore him than to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on attorneys and time.

I would have kept my mouth shut if you would have kept yours shut rick, you have brought this on yourself.

every word you type proves my point, .... you were planning on taking everything from the Bedini's it was obviously in your heart from the beginning.

I am and will continue to Be John' and Gary's friend in death as in life. I will defend him, his family and his contribution to the world.you introduced me to them rick for that I m thankful, but that is where it ends.

you say I am a fan boy. guilty a charged....saw so many amazing things in his shop. so many things he was not able to share as it would have gotten him killed.

Feel free to belittle my contributions to the conferences, and to the forums, and to friends that's ok.... I don't mind you can treat me like crap all you want. I have not told a single lie, I will sit for a polygraph, and I will pay for you to sit for one too. there is a few questions I would like to ask you under oath.

I will film it unedited and let the world see it. you can do the same.

here is some in your area:

Michigan Polygraph Services in , Michigan with Reviews - YP.com

have them email me at service@teslagenx.com after you consult with them, I will send them a credit card and a list of questions they can ask you. I will spend up to 500 dollars on this. I am sure there are a few more people who might like to kick in a few dollars and some questions...

the ball is in your court Rick, lets settle this liar thing once and for all.



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Wow Tom, the funny thing is that all that could have been said in a few
words. LOL! Who is the one multiplying words? I thought you said you were
done anyway? Yeah you all understand that you are not on the side of the
truth and have nothing to back up anything. You cannot admit any of you
have done anything wrong, and hardly can admit anything I have done was
good. This everyone can see now. You have overstated your position both
for John, in making him a god, and in attacking me as if I am altogether
wrong. You see Tom, I am not altogether right and know I have a lot to
learn and grow in. I can admit that. "But you are the men and wisdom will
die with you!" You cannot address what everyone can see in video and the
real facts. Your attitude is manifest to all. Your evasions. I am not
taking anything from Bedini. What did Bedini actually invent anyway? You
don't even know anything of prior art as I have shown. I suppose you think
Benitez learned from John 100 years ago. Or that John showed Andrews the
SG? Novelty electric motor. US3783550 Jan 8, 1974
https://www.google.com/patents/US3783550 Just exactly what did John invent
or own? You don't even know what I have given him over the years with no
contract or obligation. More than anyone. I did more to support him than
you ever did. But I was deceived about this legend idea you are trying to
promote. I mislead you and others in supporting that idea and now I
retract that. One day you may open your eyes to see your idolatry Tom. You
have put yourself in a box and have no clue about prior art or much of any
of this history. You have agreed to defend people against the truth
instead of being objective and realizing they had both truth and error.
You cannot bring yourself to do that as then he wouldn't be your god. You
are so clueless that you cannot see all of John's contradictory statements
and actions. I had to deal with that for years. Yes he contributed some
good, I do not deny that. But acting like he never made a mistake and
didn't even say the things shown on video or audio shows the world that
you are deep in confirmation bias and now a priest of this cult and you
stand to gain to attack those who demystify the fake legend. You have
nothing to offer the public so you divert to mere attack or diversion. And
I'm sure you would beat the polygraph testing as lying is your second
nature. Just look at your last statement also. I never said John was a
dummy, or that I had all the answers. I don't have all the answers. But I
speak and show the truth. What have you ever shown Tom? John wasn't a
dummy. Go back and actually read what I said for once. No, all you did was
listen to gossip that a bunch of drunk guys shared behind people's backs.


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You have everything to gain and I have everything to lose...

I would not suggest something like this if I did not think it would help this whole situation.

that is my request and nothing more. your verbosity is killing us... take the test.

you have nothing to lose, I will even pay you 100 dollars for your time.

I will open an escrow account in our names and deposit it before you go. the polygraph service will have already been paid.

This forum is watching you..

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Hi Rick,

I am also one who knows the truth about how you treated various PPL, and your Lies.....
I also know all about the Tube Oscillator incident, and I am the one that Called JB within 30 min of finding out about some of the bad details to inform him that something was going on...... He almost did not get the SSG patent because of that SCH getting posted...... and their were only 3 ppl that i know of that Stan shared that info with.......
Your BS is catching up with you...........
go take a Poly, and i might have a few Questions for you too........lol.....

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[SIZE="4"].......your position both
for John, in making him a god, ........... What did Bedini actually invent anyway?

SG? Novelty electric motor.

Just exactly what did John inventor own?

........... open your eyes to see your idolatry Tom.

You have agreed to defend people against the truth

........... then he wouldn't be your god. You

you cannot see all of John's contradictory statements and actions.

I never said John was a dummy,

No, all you did was listen to gossip that a bunch of drunk guys
shared behind people's backs.


So now we are all a bunch of drunks who kicked you out of the
inter-circle? Like I said Rick you need to go have a cold one and
think this thru. Didn't Jesus go into the pub once in a while to
have a sit down and rejoice with the young men thru new wine?

Where is your Jesus ethic Ricky. Little Ricky from not on.

All one need do is go back to the ORIGINAL OFFICIAL BEDINI 10 POLE KIT
video to minute 3:10 JOHN makes the statement that it is his
design and Rick tries to make it sound like he has changed and modified
it in some sort of evolutionary process with 100's of builds.

This forces John to repeat his statement at the beginning.

Watch John tilt his head and gets that squirly look in his eye as Rick
talks. John is a genius here in the video and knew Ricks heart yet
still forgave him and over looked what Rick was doing.

John is such a precious soul. But no one can deny what was going
on as shown by this video. As Rick talks at min 3:25 John starts
scratching his ear and turns his head-does anyone see this?

I caught that spirit that day, I see things faster than some.

Come on guys am I nuts look at minute 3:36 now what do you see and
freeze it. You see John rolling his eyes.

Talk to me people.

Lastly look at min 3:54 John is finished listening to Rick make it sound
like what John built and what the machine is now is more advanced
thanks to Rick so John steps on the tail of that cat right away.

John refreshes his statement as at the beginning where John let Rick
take over for less that a minute. And in that short of a period Rick was
trying to work his magic on the crowd.

Shame on Rick for all of the bad things he is saying about my friend John.

Here is the link go watch



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Well Rick, since you dragged me into this slanging match, let me share some of the facts here. I'm not going to buy into the argument with you and Tom, however I will state what happened between US. As I expect a long winded response from you, please respect me and keep the subject to US.

I was a member on the Bedini Yahoo groups when Rick made Tom and I moderators, because we were seen by him as being experimenters that understood the Bedini SSG and would be good to help out the other members. I spent hundreds of hours moderating posts, booting trolls, approving new members as well as answering many questions by others who were keen on researching John Bedini's SSG. I never asked for anything in return and was happy to do this to help out John and Rick.

Sometime later Rick was considering offering kits of John's SSG. He stated that John was not interested in doing it and asked us for our opinion. I endorsed this because I thought it would be good to promote the Bedini technology and would make it a lot easier for people to get good results if they had the right equipment.

I understand it was around this time that Rick was also working with Energenx to commercialise some battery chargers. Well, all of this made Rick pretty busy which meant he had less time to moderate the Yahoo groups. Tom, Josh and I happily picked up the slack - to the point where Rick was almost non-existent on the groups anymore.

This went on for some time and soon enough the RC-2A12 was released, followed by the RC-1AU and then the RC-30A12. As I was keen to try out these great new products I bought them all from Rick. So far, so good.

So not long after that I was sent to the USA on a business trip. I called up Rick and asked if it was possible, since I was coming to the USA all the way from Australia, to arrange a meeting with John Bedini - as it was a goal of mine to meet the inventor of this technology. I wouldn't call myself a "groupie" as such, just someone who was interested in this technology.

Rick explained to me that in order to get to John I had to go through him - John would not let just anyone visit the shop. So if I wanted to meet John I would have pay the airfare for Rick to travel from Michigan and back, which I did. After I wired him the money he also invited Tom up to visit at the same time, because "you guys have been helping out so much with the groups". So Tom and I (with Rick) got to meet John, Gary and Brett for a few days and John said I could then call him at any time I wanted to.

It was also during this period that I agreed to be one of Rick's dealers, the only one in Australia. This involved me taking orders from my customers and then ordering them from Rick R-Charge website at a discounted rate.
This went well for a while, but soon problems and complaints started to roll in. There were shipping delays, complaints on the Yahoo groups that people had ordered products and heard nothing about their orders. R-Charge wasn't picking up the phone, phone calls never returned and emails unanswered.

For a while us moderators tried to cover for R-Charge saying that they were just busy or waiting on suppliers, etc. but after a while you kind of get sick of that so we just referred them to the R-Charge email or phone numbers, as instructed by Rick.

R-Charge had then released the RC-ALM1, a small alarm backup battery charger that had claims of "allowing the battery to last way longer than normal, possibly 15 years or more". Since I was also working for a major security company in Australia who replaced hundreds of these batteries every year I had negotiated a deal with them for an order. Rick would not take an order under 500 units (to try and keep the costs down) but we did settle on an initial order of 250. I had to borrow the money for this as it was well beyond my means.
Anyway, months went by without anything being shipped (apart from 1 sample unit). I was constantly emailing R-Charge and calling Rick to find out what was going on. I was told that they were waiting for the supplier to ship to him so he could then ship them to me. This went on for months when finally some units were shipped because I begged Rick to send me something I could show my client otherwise I was going to lose the deal. To my surprise, after waiting so long, the units all had the wrong sized spade connectors on them – they would not physically fit the spade sockets. I was not happy to say the least.
Rick had promised to fix the main shipment by replacing all of spade connectors, but when they finally arrived all they had done was taken a pair of side cutters to the existing connectors and trimmed them. This was very shoddy work by anyone’s standards. In the end, due to all of the delays, my client had changed their mind so I was stuck with 250 units that I had to try and sell at cost just to pay back the loan. I did also find out later on that my order was sitting on Rick’s shop floor for months, waiting for Rick to “get around” to fixing it and shipping it. This infuriated me.
I remember the day I decided to stop working with Rick and R-Charge. I was calling (mind you, I always had to call from Australia – Rick NEVER called me) to chase up orders, as usual. Brent (who worked for Rick) told me that Rick had decided to reduce the discount I was getting as “I was not selling enough”, even though I was not allowed to sell his products cheaper than he was advertising them on the R-Charge website. So I said thanks but no thanks. That was the end of that “partnership”.

So while all of this was going on Rick was organising the conference at the CDA resort. According to Rick, it was going to be huge – Bedini tech boats, planes, cars, etc. I wanted to go and my wife also wanted to meet the guys I was spending a good chunk of my time with. But to raise the money to pay for the airfares, accommodation and meals (and to pay off the loan I still had for the alarm chargers) I had to sell my car. My wife and I arrived at Rick’s shop 3 days before the conference and almost nothing was working. Josh was struggling to get the 30 coiler working, the 12 coiler kept blowing transistors and the other models all had issues as well. Added to this the shop was a mess, you couldn’t find anything and Rick was off trying to organise the conference. Yes, we had fun trying to fix everything and get it ready but we all worked very long hours and if we had not been there, there would’ve been nothing to show. I remember one night Brent and I slept for only about 1 hour on portable beds at the resort just to try and get things ready. Yes, we were thanked for it, but the point being that I think Rick was in way over his head and just did not have the organisational skill to pull it off properly.
Rick, I’m not sure why you discredited me in your response to Tom. I have no commercial interest in TeslagenX (mainly due to LLC laws in the USA) so I don’t know how I can be seen as a competitor to you. I assist Tom and Erik purely because of my interest in this technology, and because they are good friends of mine.
In the Yahoo groups I helped you out as much as I could. I went above and beyond what a moderator would do. I passed on the knowledge John passed onto you and you passed onto us. In hindsight, some things were lost in translation which we found out later by John were not correct passed down the line.
I did try and help the Chinese with getting the machines you sold them to work properly and also had to deal with their complaints of the way they were being treated by you. Clearly they were not “skilled in the art” and I admit the communications issues were partly their fault but they were your customer and they did feel ripped off by you. You did also tell me you couldn’t go because of passport issues. You even laughed that off over the phone.

Lastly, I am not going to try and dis-prove anything you have said either on the Internet or your videos. I have my own opinions on your integrity, however I don’t understand why you waited until John and Gary died to try and explain the “reason why you parted” and why YOU think his technology is flawed. As I stated in the video comments, it comes across as sour grapes and in my opinion does nothing to prove your honesty or integrity.
I will no longer be a part of this conversation and have chosen not to have any further dealings with you – just as I would not deal with any other company or individual that consistently delivers poor service to me.

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As for RS and the oscillator incident. Remember I still have all of the
emails, including to and from JB. So who are the liars boys? This is the
whole reason I had to set the record straight because JB lied about this.
Again, if I had been in the wrong in that then why was he not against me
from then on? And why would I send him the emails that showed that? The
fact is that when Stan sent me the email with the oscillator on it he said
not to tell JB because he would be upset with that. I was watching these
guys, including you RS, to see what you would do. You all know how loyal I
was to John. And I did tell him. I sent him the files not once but twice.
First in 2005 and then again in 2010 because he had lost them, as you see
in the headers. I have both sets of emails. These were guys on the lists
who were really active. But then Stan shared that and because of that
John went ballistic. He was very upset with Stan but not at all with me.
Why would he be? I told him. You did not tell him RS, I did. You may have
learned later, but it is my email that went back and forth with him as I
still have. If I was part of that then John would have put me on his
certain list as he mentioned at the time. I also have all the list emails
people. No, I worked as a friend with John for years after, as that was at
the beginning. You guys are just too old to get your facts right. lol So
what kind of man goes around telling people that I stole from him with
other guys 8 years earlier when I gave him the very files about the
matter? What kind of man mixes up the words so that the public cannot tell
who was saying what, so that it makes them think I did something wrong in
that merely because he lumps me in with them 8 years later?

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I have recorded words he said about certain people that they
would not appreciate knowing he said, and would blow away this
whole group's respect for the man.


So you wait til after death to stab him in the back with more lies.
No one can honestly say they trusted you over the years, even John
said that and now we are all suppose to believe that junk about John
hating a bunch of his staff.

Shameless man. A man that will stop at nothing to honor himself.

How dare you insult our integrity. John told us you lied, that is good
enough for me and as for the other gentlemen John kept those men
around after he kicked your butt out.

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This is the history of the SG Radiant Oscillator and how things get stolen even when you have people you trust to be helping you

"So the whole time Rick and his friends come to visit they take my information and pass it around like playing cards. It was later found out that they were making my oscillators and selling them without permission, nor would I ever give them permission, You the people be the judge of what was going on with this gang." - John Bedini
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Old 02-21-2017, 04:35 PM
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man oh man

so I just watched ricks response video, my god all 3+ hours of it. he is the DEFINITION of a sociopath

noun: sociopath; plural noun: sociopaths

a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.

his lack of conscience transcends all bounds of normality.

C.S. Lewis (chronicles of Narnia) also wrote science fiction trilogy. the second book "perelandria" is about the protagonist who's name is Ransom, who goes to perelandria to prevent evil from being spread into that world, but his antagonist professor Weston, who embodies all that is the opposite of that which is good, comes also to deceive the first inhabitants.

Weston is particularly good at twisting the truth and warping it in such a way as to suit his agenda. I never thought I would see professor Weston in real life....

to respond to all of his half truths would take years, that is exactly how he operates. that is why John had to stop pursuing his lawsuit against him. thousands of dollars spent with the lawyer just listening to him rattle on and on. can you imagine him in a deposition.?


John was and is my friend, as was Gary and Ronda is still my friend. I had 5 years after Rick got out of the way to actually become friends with john.

We spoke weekly, I traveled there frequently, and had many meals with him, and spent a lot of time at the eagles with him and Ronda. He often asked me why I stayed away for so long. I told him Rick said you did not want people bothering you.

this last year we spent most of our time talking about spiritual things, His faith in Christ, and where he saw himself in relation to that. we were going thru a 1 year devotional together, called the book of mysteries,


its all about the messiah in the old testament. John Loved God, and cared deeply for his friends and family, and those he trusted.

He never trusted Rick. never, but he was in a battle with Gary over Rick. Gary trusted Rick, but John never did.

John would leave things out, place little objects in front of his keyboard, write down the last time a file was accessed on his computer, place a set of parts or a tool in a conspicuous place to see if it would disappear. watch to see if his software programs were accessed remotely over the network, the kind of thing you would do if you did not trust an employee.

he did that for years with me every time I was at the shop. he would leave something up on his desktop, and ask me to read it, tell me not to share the circuit or what he was doing. most of the time it was not really earth shattering, but he wanted to see if it would end up in the wild. it took 3 or 4 years before he trusted me. but in the end he would call and talk to me regularly about many things, it was great having a friend like him.

He was fully aware of where the kernels of his tech came from, Tesla, Benitez, other researchers, he read everything there was to read on a subject. . He always showed me how he got where he was going and why.

His work with stereo amplifiers, his B.A.S.E. units, crystal cells, rife, the transmutation of elements, his knowledge and depth of understanding was incredible.

He was a voracious reader, slept very little, (less than 4 hour a day like Edison) was always up before me, and would often call me at midnight to share something.

Tony Craddock still had a ton of work to do with him. so many more videos to make of technology and experiments.

The picture Rick paints is so distorted, so unimaginable and not the man who I know, and came to love as a brother.

rick would be nothing without John, nothing....... sorry its just true. and the man to which Rick owes so much to is dead, and cannot respond, so its up to us those around him to share the truth, and not the lies being spread.

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the voodoo box

Rick mentioned a "voodoo" box in his rant. well its a ukaco machine, or a bio harmonics machine. its related to wihelm reich, waslter russell, abrams, rife, priore, heironymous, and others that were into energetic healing.

Peter lindeman verified to me that it works, and shared with me the principles behind it's operation. Cjeka had a pest control business using these machines.


it works.... I know how, why and the what of it. someone did die from using the machine incorrectly. Gary corroborated john's story.

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what a wall of text, mostly saying nothing.......

At the 2011 conference JB ask me point blank, if I was the one that posted the Sch on line, and I know that I did not post it, or show it to anyone else, so that leaves you and the other person. JB TOLD me in person last year, that because of where he found the SCH posted, he thought you showed it to some one, and they posted it.

I CALLED him after I talked to Stan on the phone, he did not know anything about Stan dissecting the Tube Oscillator and sharing with you, me and the other person online until then. He did not know about Stan showing it to one of his local buddy's, who then went to PL and tried to go behind JB's Back with it, and then you sent him the emails much later..... This other person Stan showed on line, tried to copy the Tube Osc, and sell it, and JB was very, very upset about that, but did not think he had posted the SCH, because it was not in any of his web pages where it was found........

I did not get as much face time with JB as some have, but YOU were the Topic of conversation quite a bit during the little time I did get to spend with JB......

Oh and BTW, he also told me last year that you ask him to throw me out of the 2011 conference when you saw me.......

You treated me like ****, and only ask me to be a Moderator to just use me to get info from JB, as JB was telling me how to build things on the phone, and I would have it going for 3 to 6 mo. and report back, before he allowed me to teach you, and the rest on the forums...

You have left Hundreds of pissed off ppl in your wake, they know the truth, and they will NOT Forget...... But you can continue to Believe in your own Lies....................

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dual pole motor

Here is Johns dual pole motor...been on the internet for years.

I have set up this page you may review what has been going on in the past three years

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Richard Max Friedrich Renaissance Charge Scam Video

For your information, I copy and pasted what I found online. Someone else posted this at overunity and other places and seems suitable for posting here.

This was just posted at overunity.com:

Re: Rick Friedrich - R-Charge - Rennaissance Charge Scam
« Reply #1 on: Today at 05:10:49 AM »
Rick Friedrich denied ever signing a non disclosure with John Bedini's company EnergenX.

Here is a video with the details: Richard Max Friedrich - Renaissance Charge Scam - Video Dailymotion
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I'll respond here to the comments in order. First, the 10 coiler video
reveals a lot of what I am talking about. That is why it was taken down.
So you really don't want to go there do you? Your point is just another
contradiction of John's. It is his design is it? Then why did it have neo
magnets? You guys made such a fuss about not using them and Bedini said
not to use them. So was that his design or not? This is the kind of
That's a joke to change the storyline from what really happened. Everyone
can see the videos to see the actual relationship I had with John. You
guys can see right into the heart of John and me and know everything. Your
comments are just a joke.
As for John Koorn's comments I will say that they are far better than
Tom's. John, I will admit where I failed. Some of what you say is true,
some mistaken, and a little is flat out lie. You start off good and
correct but you forget various things, or were not aware of the history.
For example, Marcia was moderating the groups before you guys came around.
So the storyline is not accurate. There were also others helping out here
and there. I also volunteered for years with no commercial interest in
this. I respect both of you guys for doing what you could to help. I
appreciated that and shared that at the Convention, which I recorded. I do
not take that back. But I do regret a lot of things. I did what I could to
make something happen boys. It is easy to complain about everything but
then take the benefit from it. The groups format was not good. The mission
was not solid. It was kind of just an improvement upon the failing SG
group. John had a lot of influence on what happened that you guys have no
idea about. I still have all the email correspondence with him from those
years and you are really implicating him in much of what you say and what
went wrong. But ultimately I have to take responsibility for the failures
of others and that is why I have to set the record straight in this. There
are so many details I could bring up and only will address your
misunderstandings, and own up to what I did wrong. Again, I also want to
give credit where it was due even if you guys cannot do that.

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Isn't that special little ricky messed his self once again. Now run
along ricky and someone will fix you a bottle of warm milk. And we
thought little ricky was just a gentle but rather he is mental.

Somebody order a straight jacket for this character.

So little ricky signed after all now didn't he? What a wuss.

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From jim butler

I am going thru some Archives from when I was doing my research on why john and Rick parted ways. I ran into this from Jim. this email is from 2013....

Rick I thought I would answer you .

First I have gone to see John. First let me jog your memory I was asking you questions at John's shop. I was with George Green, can you place me now? I told you at the time I was a solar engineer or maybe you did not here me. Let me come to the point here. You did work with John and you were just as much involved in mystifying people if not more then John as John never sold anything before Renaissance Charge entered the picture. I seem to remember you asking John for things for the last convention. I seem to remember you promoting everything. I had conversations with Steve W who said that you just copied everything from John's lab and were no engineer at all, nice Rick. It seems your the one in the boat and not John. It seems that what you have is what John let you have and no more. You might have copied Ron Coles work too who worked with John. And just to let you know things were placed around the shop to test you by John, should I say more? I think John figured you out early on and did not say anything to you or your friends until the end.

John I know well from KABC radio before I moved to Idaho to get away from California. I also know that John would never leave anything important on his computer or in drawings. You have made allot of money from selling John's inventions, yes inventions. You were very fortuitous in your position. and I can see that you think you can make simple changes and everything is going to be ok. This is not so Rick as everybody will soon find out the truth that your just as much involved in what John built for you. Your on YouTube promoting it.

The thing here Rick is, your just using all of John's inventions. When I asked John, John said that you did copy off all his computers, especially Brett's, yes I know Brett too, and Brett's work belongs to Energenx Inc and all the programs you took. I did talk to Joan too about what you said in the morning before John showed up for work. John did not say anything about you he just shook his head and said good luck. However he did say he gave no information except limited because he could never trust you ,and others told me the same thing. I can see from the postings you have tried to change things to get around John but as you can see things melt because you really do not know. What does, "we were fed a story mean", so your going to feed another story to this group about how John did it all bad and you did nothing? It seem John made a good choice in making sure you were gone and out of his shop, however he did it. It seems your an "Opportunists" with John's property. You need to settle up what you really owe John as you have nothing but yourself to blame. John has always given circuits away freely on the internet for people to experiment and never believed in anything free. At the last conference with you he said that very plainly that it's a change in energy that people term as free energy and he hates that word.

I still may get involved and I can guarantee I would go after you on the patents and circuits. I have advised John to do the same as your using John's inventions and making money from it. The truth is you can not get around any patents he has as you will find out. Attaching a reed switch to drive the motor is still in violation of his patents, Pulse charging at high voltage is in violation to, remember John has that covered real good including PWM. John has four patents that cover everything real good very broad claims. This also includes solar charging with low light, in fact it says "moon light". If you want to get technical he shows a bridge in the monopole, Those skilled in the art would know that you only need one diode without the capacitor. so it is covered along with pulse timing and any trigger he would want to use. Just to let you know I'm also a stock holder in Energenx Inc. I have looked at the books and it seems you have made a great deal of money off what John has done.Your continuing to make money off his circuits as you know it works no other way with the inventions. You have no contract with John and yet your selling his inventions, bad move Rick.

Multi oscillating coil system is also covered in his patents and MonoPole Patent (LOW LIGHT SOLAR). As a matter of fact everything you have seen in his lab you have signed a paper saying such, it proves you were in his shop looking. In my book it's time to screw your head on straight and work something out so you can continue to earn a living with this technology. If you look at the pulse charger technology you will find the same thing it's covered including solar and generators, transformers and so on. I will be back up to see John next week I'm going to push the point with him about you. In my book you have had a free ride on John's inventions. I have been through all the e-mails you have sent and all the postings you have admitted in public it's John's technology that got you started. The final thing is that the "dual pole" you have is just a double monopole motor as can be see from your circuits and drawings. If memory serves me correct John has a wooden model of that and some plastic ones, so you have not invented anything here except you think you have changed it. Rick the motor generator patent describes optical switching and reed switching too, along with other ways. But in the meantime I'm going to talk to more people as I have not made up my mind yet, but I'm going to push the point with John. You are very deceitful and feckless in the way you have conducted yourself blaming John as if you were not involved, I don't think so Rick. Your giving people advise in how to alter things and you do not know what your talking about when it comes to solar. I have looked at John's circuits with the solar and it is not like just connecting the solar panel to the battery. John's circuit senses the sun then filters a narrow band gap out to charge the battery then oscillates itself off with a reverse comparator, dummy.

Now you go tell people to turn the adjustment pot so they will burn the unit out. I have seen enough from you. Your are "Feckless Rick". Why don't you grow up and stop your slander about thing you know nothing about. Your talking like you never had anything to do with the solar chargers you really do need help with your mind.

And further Rick,
MonoPole Patent,
And to show how your in violation on the dual pole I will add this Claim 6: said means a primary input battery and a means for switching the battery, said means for switching either a solid-state switching circuitry, a magnetic Reed switch, a commutator, an optical switch, or a Hall switch; You have built a dual monopole which is covered in other claims. Also in the claims it is clamed a generator coil. And in claim 9: The method of claim 8, wherein the back EMF energy is rectified by using a bridge transferring said energy to a capacitor for storage; and Claim 18 A method, comprising; magnetizing a stator; applying a force to a pole of a rotor with the magnetized stator; demagnetizing the stator; and recapturing energy released during the demagnetizing

Have a great day And I'm going to make sure this gets posted so all can read.

Jim Butler.

This is the first in a long list of emails from Him to me, he posted this on the dual pole forum I think. I have lost contact with him, as I only saw him when I was in Hayden and he happened to be at the shop, hopefully he is following this thread, he had a really low opinion of Rick.

Tom C
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:26 AM
John_K John_K is offline
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Just the facts... part 1

Rick, I'd like to add and in some places correct some of your response - specifically as it relates to US. Once again, I am focussing on US.

Since it appears you cannot post on this forum, I will quote from the page that nilrehob has linked to.

"For example, Marcia was moderating the groups before you guys came around. So the storyline is not accurate."

I never said Marcia wasn't moderating the groups before I came along. I was simply stating that you had made Tom and I moderators. There is nothing inaccurate about the "storyline".

“John had a lot of influence on what happened that you guys have no
idea about. I still have all the email correspondence with him from those
years and you are really implicating him in much of what you say and what
went wrong.”

Please post copies of these emails. I would be very interested in seeing how I am implicating John

“As for the alarm chargers there was a lot of details. I did not leave them
on some shop floor and not do them. Steve was just starting to learn is
new machines to make them and did a very good job making them. I would
have to go back over the details to see what all happened. But I waited on
them to be made and also for Energenx to do the connectors you complain
here about. So it was John's work that you find so disagreeable. Not that
I am not responsible for that.”

Rick, I have a witness who told me that he saw the box of alarm chargers on your shop floor without connectors on the end of the leads and that they had been sitting there for some time after they had been shipped from Steve. This person told me because he was very surprised that they were still sitting there unfinished after all of that time.
You are fully responsible for the connectors. I placed the order with Renaissance Charge, not EnergenX. It was the Renaissance Charge label that was on them, not the EnergenX label. YOUR company is fully responsible for the condition of the product that YOUR company eventually shipped to me. Do not try and implicate your supplier for sending out bad products that you took money for.

“As for your visiting. John did not like people to visit him who he did not
know. He had very little respect for people on the groups but he did latch
on to a few here and there. But you don't know what he said behind your
backs. Like I said, he liked the attention but had little respect for
anyone at all, even his friends whom I will not mention their names. I
recorded him saying such things. Regarding all these things I have all the
emails as well.”

In all of my time on the groups (and any other forum for that matter) I never got the impression that John had little respect for the people on the groups. Can you please provide evidence of this? If you have recordings or emails of this, please post them.

“As for being a dealer, really no one was ever a dealer. People sold one or
two chargers here and there but that is not a dealer. You did order the
alarm chargers and did I not buy them back from you, like half of them? No
big deal there. A lot of people wanted to sell these but really had no way
of doing that, no customers or experience in sales. If a real dealership
had existed then there would have been a steady order of product.”

Really Rick? Would you like me to publicly post details of every order I placed with you? I did not sell “one or two chargers here and there”. I sold many chargers and many of your kits and parts. It didn’t help that there were delays in shipping a lot of orders and that you would not return calls or emails in a timely matter. Many of my customers lost faith in the ability to ship orders. I took the responsibility for that from my customers, as I should’ve because it was my business and you were just the supplier. That’s why I stopped doing business with you Rick, it was just too difficult.
No, you did not buy half of the alarm chargers back. You offered to, however when I asked you to write me a check for them you refused. There was no way I was going to leave you with half of my alarm chargers without being paid for them. Don’t deny this Rick, my wife was standing right next to me in the front of your shop when this occurred.

“There was no one by the name of Brent. Brett worked close with me but was
actually working for Energenx. Maybe you were talking about Tom.”

I apologise if I got the name “Brent” incorrect. I was talking about the guy with the glasses who worked with you and Dan in the shop. I will go back and check my emails and get the name right.

“As for the price of the chargers this was controlled by Bedini. He always
wanted to sell high and make little. When I left these guys they raised
the prices, even doubled them. They upped the cost of a model by $100 from
the one lower just for adding 1 fet! They charged me for manufacturing a
high price. If you only bought a few chargers here and there then why
would you expect to get a big discount? We both did what we could. But you
did not understand what was happening on our end at all and no doubt this
has caused much misunderstanding.”

EnergenX did not control the price of the chargers. They controlled the wholesale price of their products that they sold to other companies, as you would expect from a supplier. When I stopped dealing with Renaissance Charge I contacted Gary and he said he was more than happy to sell chargers to me directly. At that time, he sent me the EnergenX price list. The date on the document was almost a year before he sent it to me and it had not been modified since that date. I still have that file, so what you have said above is incorrect.

“You act like you had to come and had to sell your car. You did not need to come John. So I fail to see these points. Josh did a good job putting the coils on the 30 coiler. It takes a little work to do the trigger resistance. You guys added the hot triggering to the 12 coiler because we wanted to hook it up to a generator. That was a very junky harbor freight gen. But the motors worked fine. You guys helped a lot. Remember, John told me to not bother with any of these demonstrations. Just talk. The shop was a mess because everyone had been working on all the stuff for several weeks before you came. Whatever man. It is not true that there would have been nothing to show without you John. You guys helped, but not that much. Remember, I recorded all of it.”

I’m not acting like anything. I was merely pointing out some of the things that we did to help out. I wasn’t trying to attack you. I know I didn’t need to come, I wanted to come because at the time we were friends and I wanted to help out. I just stated it as it was.
Slight correction on the 12 coiler. The trigger circuit was the 555 and opto emitter/receiver circuit that I believe was your idea. I have photos of that circuit, but have never shared them publicly. We did add the Darlington driven trigger circuit to the 30 coiler as Josh was having difficulty triggering properly with the traditional trigger winding.
I didn’t say that there would be nothing do show without “me”, I said “if WE had not been there, there would’ve been nothing to show.” WE helped out immensely. Saying “not that much” is a gross understatement and unfair to those who put in all of those hours. I took video too Rick, more than happy to post it publicly. I don’t remember that you “recorded all of it”. How could you? You weren’t there most of the time I was there, so there must’ve been hidden cameras somewhere.

“John, as far as I understood, you were selling this stuff over there. So
you are not working together. Well that is good then. But I mentioned you
because you also posted nonsense on my youtube channel at the same time as
Tom. And you are also part of this attack against me, as you show here

Well Rick, you misunderstand the relationship I have with TeslagenX. We are working together on some things and have a lot of mutual respect for each other. What you consider to be “nonsense” that I posted on your YouTube channel is your opinion, just as what I posted is my opinion. I did sit through the entire videos Rick.

(to be continued)
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Old 02-23-2017, 02:26 AM
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Just the facts... part 2

“But while you were active you did not do the careful research I did and
gather all the details. So you fail to see all the contradictions in these
matters. You are still under a spell and just assume everything Bedini
said was true and gospel truth. People need a messiah and they latch onto
others in that way. So what happens when I show you guys the actual facts?
You close your eyes and just repeat what you were told.”

This could not be further from the truth Rick. You have no idea how much time I have spent in my research over the years. You have not seen every single project I have done or the very detailed test results I have kept. I am far from a religious person and do not need a “messiah” or believe in spells and witchcraft. I believe in science Rick and have proved out everything Bedini has stated in his patents and found that scientifically they are true. You have written some pre-conceived opinion of me that is based on your own view of the world, not undeniable facts.

“I never had any bad dealings with the Chinese. I spent way too much time
entertaining them for John and Gary. I told them they had to have a
battery charging at all times on the motors. They decided to try and
rejuvenate some completely dead batteries and blew out the circuits. They
didn't have fuses on them. I didn't treat them bad at all. They wanted me
to come over there right away, and I was waiting on my passport renewal.
Why is that so difficult to accept? I also didn't really care to do any
China deal. I wasn't getting anything for that. I just helped John and
Gary. They bought a few prototypes from me. They never felt ripped off
from me.”

Rick, I’m not sure how long it takes a Canadian native living in the USA to renew a passport but in Australia it takes around a week. How do I know? Because I had to renew my own passport to go to China. I’m sure they would’ve understood that if you had taken the time to explain that to them.
Your comments prove that you did not care for the customers you sold prototypes to after you took their money. It’s was not about any “deal”, it was simply after sales service they were looking for and some guidance.

“As for my recent videos, there are multiple reason for them as explained
in the videos themselves, which you probably didn't even watch.

I watched them, want me to post the YouTube screen shot of my viewing history? Please don’t make false assumptions that make you look foolish.

“While I have a right to set the record straight when a man lies to the
public and completely changes the facts, like saying I was involved in
what Stan did when I in fact showed John what he did, I also am compelled
to warn people against an influence that leads them to kill their
batteries, or waste their time, or just believe someone who is not to be
trusted as an authority. It is because my name is tied to him that I have
to do this John. Your's is not. The internet will always show me with John
and there are thousands of references like that. So I have to distance
myself from him as I should have at the beginning. But I too was under the
spell you guys are under right now. You may pat yourselves on the back
together but people can see the truth about these things, because the
videos alone show it. You guys can't answer the things I bring up. You
just talk about passports and silly things, and blame me for John's

Yes, but if you felt so strongly about that why wait years until John and Gary have passed? You could have done what you did while they were still alive and given them the right to defend themselves, but now it just looks like sour grapes. And what did it achieve? Now you have more people disliking you than ever before and it’s not getting any better for you, is it? Why wait years after John posted the oscillator stuff about you and Stan to bring it up? Again, if you believed it not to be true why wait until the major players cannot reply? It makes no sense.

“I'm sorry where I have let you down John. I know I did let you down here
and there. I tried to help you in many ways. I gave you what you asked for
in many things. I did you good. You wanted to see John and I made it
happen. You wanted to sell product and I made that happen. You wanted to
moderate and get involved so I let you. I also connected you with the
Chinese and that could have set you up for life if you knew what you were
doing. I opened the door for you into this cult John. That was actually
the worst thing I did. The problem is that you guys want to blame everyone
else but JB. And yet if you would have been in the shop with Gary and John
from day to day you would have seen them blame each other for everything,
and rightly so. But that doesn't accord with this perfect legend that knew
everything about everything.”

Look Rick, I agree with some of that. Yes, we did work well together at the start but please don’t put yourself in the illusion that you did everything for me. I wanted to meet John, so I did what you asked at arranged for you to introduce me to him and Gary. Later I told John and Gary about this and Gary simply said that all I had to do was call him and say that I was a Renaissance Charge dealer interested in John’s work and he would’ve happily let me visit.
I wanted to sell product, so I made that happen. I started my own company and entered into a commercial agreement with yours. I don’t recall you asking me if I wanted to sell your products.
Yes, you gave me KP’s number – that was all you did. I volunteered my time to go to China, Hong Kong and Taiwan on numerous occasions. I helped them on the ground, over the phone and on Skype. Unfortunately, KP passed from a long term illness and his family decided to end the project – nothing to do whether I knew what I was doing or not. A simple fact that you chose to leave out.

Rick, I was more than happy for you to go along and continue your own endeavours in your own eternal bliss. I judge people by my own experiences with them, not what others may say or whatever their opinions are. In my own experiences with the Bedinis I have always found them to be honest and they have always treated me with respect. I have never thought they any of them have lied to me, or made promises they could not keep. I also heard them talk a lot about you, some I agreed with, some I didn’t – based on my experience with you. I chose not to go public with any of this as it was no one else’s business.
However, once someone publicly states things about me that I don’t believe are true or incorrect I will defend myself publicly and correct them with facts – not wild inaccuracies and talk of spells and cults.
I will continue to do this until the day I die, because everyone knows that once you die you have no control over what people say about you and no way to defend their lies.

John Koorn
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