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[mikrovolt]

Sodium solid state

An Australian teacher discuses the sodium solid state battery.
Suppressing the Dendrite formation is a major accomplishment
The battery media/electrolyte as a pellet membrane made by fusing together nanospheres of the
ceramic Na3Zr2(PO4)(SiO4)2 to serve as the solid electrolyte.
It is this clever combination that has cost, longevity, charge density, fast charge rate, lower heat explosion risk, abundance of available materials
means plenty of awesome battery storage.

A solid new approach to sodium batteries | Chemical & Engineering News

The previous art of 2015 Argonne labs used carbon / nasicon
http://www.csm.ornl.gov/BLI8/present...eries_BLi8.pdf

reference book terminology and basics
https://science.energy.gov/~/media/b..._rpt_print.pdf
related formulation preparation of nasicon super ion material
http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jac...I081115559.pdf

[BillyKnorr]

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Wow both forums on the crystal cells went dead... Maby since it has been dead for a while maby some of the group that have been here for a long time could post some updates. There are a lot of people getting into this still. I'm sure we all want to see some of the older cells and how they are doing.

[mikrovolt]

John Moved

Thanks for sharing,
John Bedini continued his fuel cell efforts on a different forum.
For various reasons he decided limiting the scope and discussion.

He was generous in spending time here, he has alot of other important responsibilities so decided how best to manage his time. He helped many people here to better understand energy and crystals. The regulars that posted here are great bunch. Years ago I could not find anything on crystal cells, later overunity forum started a thread. John's support and experience drove the traffic when John posted it got busy. Many thanks to all those who supported the earth light.

John's thread can be found here:

How to Make a Bedini Crystal Battery

[tgraca]

Status

The latest results of LaserSabre's study on crystal cells and John Hutchinson using copper pipe.

Wow! It's been over 2 months and still only up to post #3152... there's a lot of videos and documentation to read through. I made a couple cells last week (cell #'s 174 and 175 for me) as suggested by Bedini back at post #1966, which seem to be working well. I will make a couple more this week.



In series they are holding at around 2.2 volts and 1 mA under load so far. I'll add a third cell to get it over 3 volts to match the LED rating and add a photoresistor to my circuit to keep it off during the day. I left it disconnected for 12 hours and it came back stronger.

I'm looking forward to working my way up to Bedini's "new" mix (from over 2 years ago) - post #2562 - and learning more as I trudge through these many posts.... Fun!

Thanks everyone!

PS - I hope to see some updates on the cells built back then as I go through this thread, but I haven't found any from this year on YouTube.... yet... I'll keep an eye out...

[mikrovolt]

Working cells after 2 years

The latest results of LaserSabre's study on crystal cells.
The type of cell used was a magnesium rod in copper pipe.

Motor + LED Going for 2+ Years! - Crystal Cells Duration Testing - YouTube

also a video from John Hutchinson using copper pipe.

Tesla s radiant energy device works great! woo hoo - YouTube

[tgraca]

Gummy Bear Battery

@All
I made a low power cell today using copper, magnesium, and a "Gummy Bear" candy. I started thinking about these soild state batteries that we have been studying and decided to look into "gel" cells. One thing led to another and I ended up with "gelatine" as perhaps a way to make a homemade "gel" cell. Gummy Bears are made using that ingredient so I tried one and it worked. I don't know if this has any value in the other type cells that we are building but it was an interesting little experiment. I found out that ions can travel quite nicely through a gelatine based substance.

YouTube - Gummy Bear Battery.ASF

Lidmotor

@Lidmotor

I am slowly working my way through years of these posts, and hopefully I will find an update on this in the next couple thousand posts... I follow you on YouTube and commented on this video (tgraca50), so send a note if you get a chance. Love your work!

Teo

[cgalvisardila]

Hi every one i am back on line after a year off , i have been wanting to post this for months ...

hi mk1, this looks very interesting, do you have more from this book? or the name of the book? cheers

carlos

[mk1]

Hi every one i am back on line after a year off , i have been wanting to post this for months ...

[mikrovolt]

Yes the crystal batteries/power cells can convert electricity. But from where and how? The batteries seem to be thermo active. Maybe its converting heat energy into electrical energy.

Jiant, I have tryed to answer in a way that supports the thread but after much consideration it is my opinion that John B earth cells do not concentrate primarily on thermal conversion activity.

I did find some thermal cells that may be promising.
John Bedini and his associates moved thread to his own forum

The cells that I finally found after long search trying thermo active
I found these thermal cells.

Txchnologist - Tiny Efficient Fuel-Burning Generators Could Replace Conventional Batteries

[jiant]

Yes the crystal batteries/power cells can convert electricity. But from where and how? The batteries seem to be thermoactive. Maybe its converting heat energy into electrical energy.

[mikrovolt]

electric signals from flowers

It can be shown that crystals in their own way can convert energy and that some geometry works better than others and a pattern does exist.
power hypothetically use pathways semi conductive bands or gateways to be useful to allow system of electrical flow. Some laugh, others say that it is a waste of time and the chances are too slim that the technology could ever teach us anything other than galvanic principles. I believe that progress was made here.

For many years scientist believed that a bee used fragrance to find nectar in flowers. There have been others that have felt that an electrical phenomena exists and that other forms of energy do exist in nature and that understanding these could lead to new avenues of power.

Here is an article that says that a bumble bee and plants use electrical signals.
Plants and bees electrical communications | DVICE

[jiant]

Ive been looking into the Bedini Crystal Battery buisness for some time now. What I can't just fathom is how a crystal battery is different from a lemon battery or a standard AA battery. I have tried making several Magnesium and Copper batteries with alum, rochelle salt, and magnesium sulfate. They turned out pretty good producing well over a volt. But, I have been able to produce similar voltage from a lemon. What sets crystal batteries appart?

[Allwest]

Self generating crystal power cell

Self generating crystal power cell 1.85 volts, although low amp dry cell

Self generating crystal power cell - YouTube


Best of luck

[b_rads]

For anyone still working on this thread, you might find this information interesting. Early in this thread, John Bedini introduced the Magnesium / Copper / Alum cell. While many theories were bandied about as to how this cell worked, John eventually came out and said this was a fuel cell. I had also labeled this a fuel cell and now with some terrific work by Lidmotor, you can finally see how the Alum / Epsom Salt facilitate these cells.

Lidmotor has released a set of videos showing his Stainless Steel / Epsom Salt Rechargeable cells and if you have not seen them, you really should take the time to watch. Do some research on the interaction of sulfates and water and this process become understandable. Check out this PDF -
Having a gas with Water

Captured from the last paragraph on the third page on how it works:
“In a water molecule, the Oxygen atom has a tendency to be negatively charged and the Hydrogen atoms have a tendency to be positively charged. Your device pulled apart water into these two components.”
“Since opposite charges attract, the Hydrogen migrated towards and bubbled from the negative electrode or stainless steel screw and the oxygen migrated towards and bubbled from the positive electrode or stainless steel screw.”
“(The Epsom salt, also known as magnesium sulfate or MgSO4·7H2O was dissolved in the water to help your battery break up the water more efficiently. Epsom salt breaks up into particles called ions. When added to the water, these ions help charges move around the solution.).”

Using Copper and Magnesium, John provides the current internally to make this process happen. This is really ingenious and gives even greater importance to this cell. Lidmotor shows how this process with same metal electrodes not only splits the water; it also makes a very nice battery. Interesting how these two processes (battery and hydrogen fuel cell) interrelate.

Brad S

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

I think that John B has already divulged that info.
Others can correct me if I am wrong.
I thought I remember it being sodium silicate.
Brian

No, sodium silicate is the monohydrate form of silicate and will not work. It's the pentahydrate solution that provide the proper hydration for long long run time without adding any water. And it's very pricy. Allwest has found a way to crystalise the Alum faster and we need that. It's cheap and effective imho. Yes.. adding a little bit of water once a week or two but the copper oxide I and II ( burned black and red oxide). The black oxide will act as a depolariser for the cell and stop the corrosion process and the red oxide will act as a blocking diode valve for the radiant energy to flow in one direction only. Yes John Bedini is/was THE MAN. I hope he comes back very soon to update us on his projects.