Bedini-Cole Window Motor Electric motor runs without draining batteries!!!

[Shamus]

Hi Huckmubb,

As far as I know the "Mike Modification" is bogus. I believe that John Bedini and Rick Friedrich spent a lot of time trying to get it to work (and showed videos of this) and in the end concluded that "Mike" had a small hidden battery that charged up the cap.

As far as getting it to self-run goes, on fight4truth Erwin shows a commutator arrangement similar to the machine shown in the first part of the "Free Energy Generation" book by Cheniere Press. That may be a good place for you to focus your investigations.

Good luck!

[Huckmubb]

Guys!? Nobody has tried to replicate the self running window motor lately?

How come on fight4truth.com it says the window motor will run its self?

Well I built a window motor. I tried the "Mike's" modification of putting the charging winding in series with the primary winding. It doesn't do anything, I mean, absolutely nothing. Unless I did something wrong, which is possible, I did not notice ANY change on the scope... Not even the slightest change in the waveform. I tried every conceivable timing by adjusting it as the motor was running. As far as I can tell, Mike's modification is drawn incorrectly, or really just doesn't do anything.

(Note I used a reed switch to do this modification (not a solid state relay). It should do the same thing.

But wait... I still have hope, that's why I am writing. Can anyone help me? Does anyone have any knowledge of a "self running" Window motor. I am just trying to make my motor run on a capacitor.

As it is, I can run the motor for about 1 minute on a capacitor before it drains down and dies at 2.75 volts. Then I have to charge the capacitor back up. I am drawing only about 0.030 amps (3 miliamps). I just need to figure out a way to gain 0.030 amps worth of free current, and then I'll have a self runner. There just has to be a way to do this.

[Aaron]

Welcome Stephen

Hi Stephen,

I'm happy you liked the book! Welcome to the forum!

[peper10]

Hi everyone!!!!!!

I have come to something (maybe)..
I hook my small bedini sg with a small step motor and got decent results..
I hook the step motor with 6x in and out 1n4005 diodes and have it hook
to the bedini running at 1260 rpm and i got 14.70 volts..
I hook the output of the step motor to the imput battery and after 11 days
it's still at 12.46 volts at the imput battery...
I gotta do more testing to look how many mm amps i can get at full rpm
from the step motor???
Or,how many volts i put in the front side???
Can i get it running on the step motor with caps hook to it????
I gotta mesure the volt and amps at rest too...

Come back with more results!!!

Alain D

[Kingman]

Hi All, I'm new here and this is my first post. I really admire all of the research that is going on in this forum and think it is the best on the Web. Thanks Aaron for your book, I enjoyed it very much. I wished that you had signed it, anyway I took two of my five SSG's and hooked it up to one 12volt garden tractor battery that has a bad cell so consequently I do not care what happens to this battery. I set one of my SSG's to dumping its charge into this battery and another of my SSG's to running off of the same battery. The darn thing ran for three days with the voltage setting at 7.52 volt all of this time! I really didn't care if I killed the battery but it didn't seem to hurt it at all. It just sat there and ran. The only reason I terminated the test was because my primary battery on the first SSG was running down and approching 12.05 volt and I didn't want to take it below that. BTW, I still have that old garden tractor battery and it still is holding its voltage at around 8 volts and I still use it time to time to dump charging voltage into it when I'm studying other processes on a running SSG. I'm now working on plans for a 16 coil energizer with a magnetically levitated rotor. We need to get away from the friction of using bearings. Jetijs and Ren, I really admire the work you guys have done! Amazing stuff and the same goes to you ThereMart. Keep up the great work! I look forward to reading your posts.
Stephen

[ren]

Aaron the best battery swapping so called self running device I have built is the one with a bridge over the SSG with cap and SCR. The negative of the bridge goes back into the SSG circuits negative and the cap is hooked up to the battery being charged.

I can swap power between the banks VERY efficiently, but one battery responds better than the other to this, they were both second hand to start with. I have had the best results so far this way.

[Aaron]

self runners

Has anyone seen any other Bedini circuits "self run" without draining the input? Something can still drain the input and have way over 1.0 COP if what drains is slower and less than what the circuit is producing.

Mike's window motor might have done it if real.

Rick's self runner appears to have self run and boosted input battery voltge. Not sure how long it could keep up doing that and what it would do to the battery.

I've done similar variations to what Rick was doing and had the input battery climb but my experience was that it gave fluffy phantom charge to the front battery. I'm not implying this is what Rick's will do...just that was my personal experience.

I think it is possible to send output to front battery if the conditions are right, but I haven't seen that happen yet SOLIDLY and am not super sure of what the right conditions would be.

[ren]

Already being done

[ashtweth]

Whooly crap. okay , ill get onto a COMPLETE Bedini write up and TEST validation based on this infoz. Aaron., you and your community here seem to be a very important spanner in the works, thanks for this.

Ash

[ren]

Aaron I do the same, but also, remember to back them up to a hard copy! I lost a fair bit of info due to computer malfunction, I wont make that mistake again

[Aaron]

Mike's self runner

Hi Jetijs,

I remember all the soap opera going on about that motor.

When I go to a page that might have info I want to keep, I click on "FILE" then "SAVE AS" and I give it a name...like mikesmotor1, etc...

Anyway, I'd encourage anyone to save entire websites to their computer as interesting info arises.

But yes, I remember that and am not sure what to make of it. I don't know if the idea of the battery in the relay is "proof" that there was deception, but the idea certainly brings up other possibilities.

[Jetijs]

Aaron,
in the window motor yahoo group there was numerous messages on Mikes motor. All the members, including John Bedini himself, for months tried to figure out how Mikes setup could work. Mike apparently used a solid state relay. But it was John, who first noticed in Mikes video that the SSR was connected incorrectly in such way that it could not possibly work. This gave him an idea that there might be a hidden power source in that relay. He tried to replace the relay with a small battery and viola - the motor behaved just like Mikes with all the scope shots identical. If Mike would be paying more attention of SSR wiring, we might never even figure out how his motor was running. Since these motors use just some 1-30mA of current, there was no problem to hide a small battery in the solid state relay and the motor could run for weeks. Excellent detective work by John

[Aaron]

Mike's motor

Hi Chevron,

Nobody has been able to duplicate the results Mike has. It has been claimed that the University go their hands on his motor (in HI I think) and no further word.

[Chevronb19]

Hi everyone,

One of my passions is studying and building "free energy" technologies.
There are many misconceptions about this field and it is attacked by
people claiming anyone doing anything in this field are a bunch of
perpetual motion nuts.

The truth is that these technologies are very real and they also have
absolutely nothing to do with perpetual motion! I'm not getting into
the specifics in this message about the distinctions because this topic
is too important to focus on the misconceptions. Instead, lets shine some
light on an amazing recent release.

John Bedini is a world famous electrical engineer and is considered a
"Mozart" with electronics and especially in the field of audio components
because he builds he highest quality most crisp sounding audio amplifiers
known to man.

Besides the audio field, he also happens to be one of leading super
geniuses in the field of electromagnetic energizers and "radiant energy"
in general.

For over 11 years, he had many plans posted on his website for many
different versions of his motors and the "School Girl" motor is probably
the most popular and there are thousands around the world building
this motor achieving very exciting results that are supposed to be
impossible.

Besides this motor, there is one version called a "Bedini-Cole Window Motor"

This is what it looks like:



The plans have been given out to the world on this website:
MOTOR DIAGRAMS AND LAB NOTES

The schematics for this motor are here:



Watch a demo video: http://www.icehouse.net/john34/bedinicolemotor.mpg this is 12MB's long
so be patient or right click on the link and SAVE TARGET AS

You can visit John's homepage here: Welcome to John Bedini

Be careful not to miss any links because they are scattered and
hidded all over his websites. There are many.

One time at John's shop, he hooked up a little battery to this motor
and it was so efficient it almost didn't register any amperage on the
meter while it was running. Also, I grabbed the shaft with my hand
and I couldn't even stop it!! It produces more torque for the least amount
of power out of any motor that I think has ever been released.

Anyway, Mike, an experimenter who did a small modification to the original
plans wound up with a more efficient Window Motor that runs itself and
keeps charging a capacitor charging up!

Here is what his looks like:



Here are the schematics / plans with the small modification:




Watch this video:

YouTube - Bedini Cole Window Motor (free energy)

How does it power itself???

That will be another discussion...but pass the link to this forum to your friends so we can
get the word out. I'm not just someone excited about this...I have built many, many Bedini
circuits and they all work as long as I build them according to his plans and not how I think
they should be built. I'll post a thread later with a very simple motor that beginners can get
their feet wet with..very simple stuff...a 10 year old girl built one so you can too!

Hmmm... Aaron, I think I would like to get into this when I get my car running more cheaply with HHO. It's very impressive.

[ren]

Time to dig up this old thread. I am well underway into a window motor replication and I need to clarify something before continuing. Perhaps Aaron can answer this, Im not sure how many people have built window motors, or have much knowledge of them.

I am build a 6 pole rotor and I noticed on Johns lab notes that the steel rotor goes slow, and the non magnetic rotor goes fast. Is this just in relation to a 2 pole configuration? Or is it imparted because of the steel? If it is the steel which slows rotation down, then what is its purpose? Does it increase torque? To clarify I am talking about the attached diagrams

Any hint or help would be gladly appreciated and could save me a LOT of time and effort, its not easy building a hexagonal rotor from scratch!