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  • #16
    Thanks for clarification

    Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
    Jetijs has not placed any extra inductors into the circuit and nor did I, the coil I refed to that is inbetween the two sets of source batteries is the oscillator power coil itself. In my opinion that qualifies it as a Tesla Switch variation, type, kind of device. But thats just my opinion and only that.
    Cheers
    Thanks for clarification. I think it is a Tesla switch arangement too. But I have a
    question, has any one else put two 12v batteries in series = 24v primary and ran it through an SSG to only a 12v charging battery. I just did this with my circuit and it seems to be working. I must tell you that my circuit is a Bedini/Imhotep radiant oscillator relay setup with an inverted Bedini circuit to convert the negative energy to positive. also combined primary output is only about 21v since one of the batteries is not fully restored yet. Its kind of a reverse Jetijs setup. The radiant oscillator has been working quite well for
    the past two months, restoring batteries I thought were long gone. If you
    have read some of my other posts you know I have not had much success
    getting an actual SSG together yet. Will keep trying.

    FRC

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    • #17
      Hi FRC, No probs, I do admit I can be confusing, even to myself.

      The solid state Bedini oscillator that Jetijs has in his drawing can also be done as a bifilar setup, like the drawing below.

      http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/..._ss.gif?psid=1

      It's actually a quite simple and very usefull circuit, the 2k resister in the drawing I posted above can be replaced with a 1k resister and a 1K pot to adjust the frequency and power draw both at once, less resistance = less frequency = more power, and vice versa, in this case.

      I'll check out your posts.

      Cheers

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Farmhand View Post

        Umm one thing that does puzzle me though is why Jetijs has the Trifilar winding connected the way he does and not through a bridge rectifier.

        Any reason for that Jetijs ? Just curious.

        I havn't got access to that EFTV video unfortunately. I only have the Stubblefield one.

        Cheers
        Hi Farmhand,
        thank you for doing those experiments, I did not have time to do them myself
        The thing about the diode on the charging battery is that the inductive spike is essentially a DC pulse in one direction only, there is no AC component in the spike, so one diode only is sufficient. Of course you can put a rectifier there, but that does not give any extra power, so I went with one diode
        Hope this helps.
        It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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        • #19
          Let me remind you of this circuit:



          I think the second one, the modified one, is an interesting circuit,
          and a kind of merge between TS and SSG.

          /Hob
          Hob Nilre
          http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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          • #20
            Its a variation on Inquorate's circuit:

            YouTube - tesla switch bedini hybrid

            Unfortunately most pics of his circuits are gone,
            but his vids are still online.

            /Hob

            Edit: Inquorate's explanation with the boat is quite interesting
            YouTube - kinetic energy multiplier theory
            and these circuits are both electronic versions of it.
            Last edited by nilrehob; 01-16-2011, 03:00 PM.
            Hob Nilre
            http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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            • #21
              Originally posted by nilrehob View Post
              Its a variation on Inquorate's circuit:

              YouTube - tesla switch bedini hybrid

              Unfortunately most pics of his circuits are gone,
              but his vids are still online.

              /Hob

              Edit: Inquorate's explanation with the boat is quite interesting
              YouTube - kinetic energy multiplier theory
              and these circuits are both electronic versions of it.
              thanks for the plug hob most the good schematics that fell off the net i've put up on Heretical Builders - Powered by vBulletin with my threads there

              i did see a total voltage rise, but i put the spike into the charging source battery. I believe the battery's ion's inertial properties and the pulse width re the coil have a lot to do with gain. I explained the principle here

              YouTube - presentation on accessing the kinetic properties of the aether, part 4 in a series of 4

              and despite having a toddler taking heaps of my hobby time, i've been trying to continue developing the circuit..

              Universal Battery Charger - Heretical Builders

              I have build it but not done extensive testing so far. I have an automated battery swapper circuit coming that uses relays but wanted to test it first before releasing it.
              Last edited by Inquorate; 01-16-2011, 10:43 PM.
              Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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              • #22
                To see my circuit go to http://www.falstad.com/circuit/

                Copy the text below and paste it into the applet

                The large caps represent batteries of equal capacity; the small cap is only there so that the applet will run.

                So, I have two batteries in series for the source, one on the return and one charged Bedini style.

                In the above simulator it appears close to 100% efficient.

                I only have 2 new batteries of the same capacity 10Ah, plus one old one measured at 8 Ah (it should be 10), and one as yet unknown as it is not fully recovered but marked as 12. ok, thatís not a good start but after one run on my Bedini SSG the results are interesting

                The two new batteries were used as the source measuring 12,65 and 12,7 at the start and have fallen to 12.11 and 12,2.
                The old 8/10Ah was on the Bedini charge and has risen from 12.2 to 13.72
                The unknown 12Ah started at 11.6 and has risen to 14.17

                Ok, that proves nothing except that the unknown 12Ah that would not charge normally has taken a charge and that the system works. I will have to buy two more batteries and run a more useful test

                $ 13 5.0E-6 0.05580351457700471 40 5.0 32
                T 304 144 336 160 0 0.04 1.0 0.12497614924693978 9.800304406790682 0.999
                t 272 256 336 256 0 1 -26.17318626956893 -0.7539139730316791 100.0
                w 336 176 336 240 0
                w 336 144 432 144 0
                w 432 352 336 352 0
                d 336 176 384 176 1 0.805904783
                w 336 304 336 272 0
                c 432 256 432 304 0 1.0 12.571106655748208
                w 432 256 384 256 0
                w 304 176 208 176 0
                w 208 176 208 304 0
                w 208 304 272 304 0
                w 272 304 336 304 0
                w 304 144 272 144 0
                r 272 144 272 256 0 100.0
                c 336 240 336 272 0 4.78E-6 25.41927229653725
                c 432 304 432 352 0 1.0 12.422514368565189
                c 336 304 336 352 0 1.0 12.83917466243457
                c 384 176 384 224 0 1.0 12.401835860813282
                w 432 144 432 256 0
                w 384 224 384 256 0
                w 272 304 256 288 0
                d 256 288 256 272 1 0.805904783
                w 256 272 272 256 0
                o 7 64 0 35 20.0 12.8 0 -1
                o 7 64 1 291 160.0 9.765625E-5 0 -1
                o 16 64 0 35 20.0 12.8 1 -1
                o 16 64 1 291 160.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1
                o 17 64 0 35 20.0 12.8 2 -1
                o 17 64 1 291 160.0 9.765625E-5 2 -1
                o 18 64 0 35 20.0 25.6 3 -1
                o 18 64 1 291 261.87124863169134 9.765625000000001E-155 3 -1

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                • #23
                  update

                  The old 12Ah battery was found to have weak acid so will nead an acid change

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                  • #24
                    got many oscillators and will try to test this.

                    Thanks Jetijs for this idea. I'll be back! (doing best schwarzenegger impression)

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                    • #25
                      LOL, you're welcome!
                      It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                      • #26
                        Itís a little too early to say as yet but what seams to be happening is the two source batteries go down around 50% and at the same time the return battery goes up 90+%. The battery on the output also goes up 90+%. This is using four batteries in total.

                        If these figures prove to be the case, when we add the mechanical output from an SSG or SG we should be able to exceed a COP of 2

                        I have to condition some batteries so this may take a week or two before I can make measurements as it is a 48hour cycle time

                        By the way Jetijs I have been reading all your work and I am very impressed

                        We are not worthy

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                        • #27
                          my 2 cents

                          Hi Jetijs and everyone.

                          Thanks again for letting me share.

                          For now i built the circuit and have been testing it and made a video to illustrate my setup so far.

                          I've subbed the 20k ohm resistor for an 18 and have a 10k pot in place at the 4k ohm resistor, however the circuit runs in a very similar fashion i would say. Also have mjl21194 in place of a 2N3055.

                          I will be running some more trials with this set up. So I don't really have any conclusions at the moment. I'm a little concerned with the sharp drop that i'm witnessing on the series (24volt pair at top in Jetijs's schematic), even though what i'm seeing consistently is a over all increase in the voltage after rest and especially after 5 hour period of that same 24 volt pair. Its concerning to see the voltage drop below 24 volts at all! But the recovery is significant and increasing, so i will keep testing at the same base resistance as i was previously and do more half hour on and half hour rest cycles with these batts to see if there is a pattern.

                          I do see that with the right base resistance, even with an ignition coil firing a CFL bulb, that there is still enough radiant current in BEMF to cause my 125volt neon to light. Need to collect that current. ;P

                          will be back soon.
                          Last edited by thedude; 02-10-2011, 07:19 PM.
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                          • #28
                            I have tried the Tesla switch awhile ago with the exciter circuit I have been working on.
                            And it works very good with the exciter.
                            Every 24 hours I would switch the batteries around.I had it running for 5 days this way.And it still could have went a lot longer.

                            YouTube - continuous run and charge 3

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                            • #29
                              This is the best circuit I have ever used to date.

                              My setup has two 12v4ah lead acid batteries in series as the supply, two in parallel on the return and two on the output. I use a 5 inch fan wired Bedini style as the oscillator and it really works.

                              If you can match your components so you are working at a C20 rate this thing is fantastic. I have been running it for months now, just swapping the batteries round.

                              We need to promote this thread

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mbrownn View Post
                                This is the best circuit I have ever used to date.

                                My setup has two 12v4ah lead acid batteries in series as the supply, two in parallel on the return and two on the output. I use a 5 inch fan wired Bedini style as the oscillator and it really works.

                                If you can match your components so you are working at a C20 rate this thing is fantastic. I have been running it for months now, just swapping the batteries round.

                                We need to promote this thread
                                Sounds great!
                                Did you also try this one (the one to the right)?



                                Two batteries in series to drive it, and the rest in parallel charging.

                                /Hob
                                Hob Nilre
                                http://www.youtube.com/nilrehob

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