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  • Aaron
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    thread to be closed

    This thread is being closed and will remain closed. It may re-open if/when an article is published. I feel sorry for anyone that would publish an article about this without having John's full story - and he is under zero obligation to tell anyone anything.

    Until then, good luck to you Miki - you may find what you're looking for here:
    James Randi Educational Foundation

    It suits you better than Energetic Forum, Energy Science Forum or any others that that are supporters of the concepts taught.

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    UPDATE - I was contacted by Pentarbe and asked to re-open this thread. I will NOT but will post his message here since it is a relevant and interesting update. You can read through this thread to see what John Bedini personally said and yes, John kicked out Rick for stealing, etc... It's been right here for years.

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    This just came up in Google when looking for some EnergenX links:
    https://rickfriedrich.wordpress.com

    Read the blog -

    In the early to mid 2000’s, Rick Friedrich proposed a business deal to EnergenX, Inc., a company headed up by a world famous electrical engineer, John Bedini. Rick Friedrich’s desire was to private label battery chargers and rejuvenators built by John Bedini’s company. Rick Friedrich‘s company name was Renaissance Charge or R-Charge for short.

    Rick Friedrich signed a non-disclosure agreement with EnergenX and promised to respect the confidentiality of John Bedini’s proprietary information that went into the chargers. This intellectual property was the sole property of John Bedini and EnergenX.

    A few years ago, around 2011, it was discovered that Rick Friedrich had been involved in some shady business deals with many customers in addition to discovering the disappearance of hardware that was the property of EnergenX. It was also discovered that Rick Friedrich had been accessing John Bedini’s computers by sneaking into the building at night and going through the files.

    There were also some energizer kits based on John Bedini’s “SG” designs that were manufactured and distributed by Rick Friedrich. One of the larger units was sold by him to someone for thousands of dollars. As soon as Rick Friedrich of R-Charge had this money, he immediately commenced to sell this exact same unit to someone else for the same amount of money. This is one of countless incidents that Rick Friedrich had done to a number of customers.

    This quickly became the normal course of operation for Rick Friedrich and John Bedini and his associates and company wanted nothing more to do with him or his way of doing business. Rick Friedrich‘s relationship with EnergenX was immediately terminated and he got the boot. Immediately, Rick Friedrich began to manufacture and sell battery chargers based on EnergenX’s proprietary circuits, albeit older obsolete ones, but nevertheless, this was all in complete violation of the non disclosure agreement that he signed with EnergenX.

    Since then, EnergenX and its distributors have collectively received many dozens of complaints from customers because of purchasing battery chargers and never receiving product. These complaints included the fact that they never received customer service. Many of these complaints also included the fact that many of the chargers did not work, worked a short time or simply did not do as claimed. What surprised everyone is when they learned that Rick Friedrich and R-Charge actually had no further relationship with EnergenX and that he was illegally selling low quality bootlegged versions of John Bedini’s chargers.

    To this day, Rick Friedrich continues to sell his low quality pirated versions of these chargers and he also holds mini-conferences claiming to be an expert in “free energy” technologies. He claims to be a man of God and most of his websites are dedicated to him preaching the Gospel to others. This is all one big hypocritical act because the truth is that he is nothing more than a common thief and we challenge him to prove otherwise.

    If you have been personally ripped off or hoodwinked by Rick Friedrich the charlatan, we invite you to please contact us and submit your story. If you can include your real name, email, mailing address and phone number, we are going to compile all of these complaints and submit them to the Attorney General as long as various federal agencies because the time has come for his dog and pony show to come to and end.

    Please let us know if we can post your complaint publicly on this website. We will remove your personal contact information but would like to list your name and location. If you want to remain anonymous, we will respect that as well. If you do not want us to list your complaint at all, that is fine and we will simply reserve it for the Attorney General.

    Please submit your complaints here: https://rickfriedrich.wordpress.com/contact/
    Last edited by Aaron; 02-13-2017, 12:44 AM.

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  • Aaron
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    @Miki

    Originally posted by miki02131 View Post
    you and Rick need to present your sides of the story in order to have fair and balance reporting.
    I don't think anyone needs to be told what they need to do. If one side is reported, it is only the intellectually dishonest that will buy the story without hearing the other side and that kind of person obviously isn't someone we want to associate with.

    Originally posted by miki02131 View Post
    If I were to accept the notion that we human can trick the laws of nature in order to make OU happen, you would be more than happy to support this thread. Guess what? Only "God" has the power to manipulate the laws of nature and if he ever tries, he will quickly find out that he has altered the properties of this universe permanently and irreversibly
    You had an issue with the facts about OU years ago in the yahoo groups. Why are you even here wasting your time this many years later because you obviously have your mind already made up? You and I had plenty of back and forths way back then. I think a rational person, who really didn't believe in OU that long ago would have been long gone. Based on the facts of what OU is and isn't, it only shows that you have never been able to actually comprehend it because of a lack of understanding of what it actually means - and part of the actual meaning shows that any "laws of nature" you believe to be rock solid are wrong - and were all written by men - not God.

    Please take Carroll's advice and post your anti-OU beliefs elsewhere - another thread or another forum. There have been plenty that have come before you and there will never be an end to the "skeptics". Do the math on a bouncing rubber ball and add up all the FXD (force X distance) for all the bounces including the input work to lift it and compare that work to only the work that was input - it destroys every skeptic's argument 100% of the time. There is no skeptic on the planet that can argue the math or the logic.

    Skepticism about something that is so naturally plentiful and blatant in our world is a psychological problem rooted in fear and it has outcroppings that manifest as low self esteem and other issues. Am I saying you have a psychological problem? Well, seeing that you're still here close to a decade later spending all this time with content and people involved in OU research and you still don't believe any of it reveals a whole encyclopedia about your inner workings and/or probable motives. If you're not crazy then you're a misinformation plant. That is the simplest explanation why you have continued to push the anti-OU propaganda for so long.

    If the reason is you want to save others from "wasting their time" - well, live your own life and don't worry about what others do.

    If the reason is that you are hopeful and really want to see it. Well, open your eyes, it is dripping off the walls and if you haven't done that by now, you're not going to. As they say, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. It is not that OU isn't real, you have an unwavering commitment to stick to what you already believe meaning you're wasting your time and all of ours. Have some respect.

    I see you claim to be an engineer in the Newport, Rhode Island area so
    you seem to automatically think that qualifies you to understand this.
    You obviously are not qualified or you would have gotten it years ago.

    You even thought you had the world's first free energy circuit way back -
    the audacity! lol

    You can't mention your belief in God and your belief that OU doesn't exist in the same conversation without being a hypocrite. Anything that comes back SEVEN FOLD as the Bible says is overunity and shows the real nature of the universe.

    The skeptics are also too afraid to ever post with their real names. You're
    not anonymous by the way.

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  • Mario
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    Miki,

    WHAT makes you think what's happened between John and Rick is of any of your or anyone else's business? It's John's company right? Why should any of his decisions be of your concern??? What do you want?

    I'll try and say it nicely Why don't you simply shut up and get the F*** out of here troll.

    Mario

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  • Michael John Nunnerley
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    I think this says it all

    Join Date: 04-28-2007
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    Find all posts by miki02131
    Find all threads started by miki02131

    and you do not enter where you are from "are you scared?" because I know where you send data from

    Mike

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  • stonewater
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    Originally posted by miki02131 View Post
    Tom,

    That's it. I am going to have Sterling develop and publish that story. He will contact Rick who will provide his side. He will also contact John who already stated he will decline to talk to him. As a result, the story will reflect Rick's viewpoint only. When it makes Peswiki's front page, then come back here and tell me it was all personal business. Let's see how you like that.

    Thanks,

    Miki out.
    who cares

    so sterling is your lapdog now? I think he can decide for himself how to pursue this, and what is in the best interest of his enterprise.



    Dude get a life please, go help some homeless people, feed some hungry people, go build a house with habitat for humanity, go to haiti and shovel some concrete. but please stop, your giving us a headache......

    do some experiments get out there and work to free humanity from the clutches of fossil fuels...


    Tom C

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  • John_Bedini
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    The truth is out about you

    Miki02131,
    Make sure your name is on it, I will decline to talk about any of this, it will stay as a one sided story. Now everybody knows what you do.

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  • chuck H
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    Bottom feeder

    Originally posted by miki02131 View Post
    Tom,

    That's it. I am going to have Sterling develop and publish that story. He will contact Rick who will provide his side. He will also contact John who already stated he will decline to talk to him. As a result, the story will reflect Rick's viewpoint only. When it makes Peswiki's front page, then come back here and tell me it was all personal business. Let's see how you like that.

    Thanks,

    Miki out.
    Miki or whoever you think you may be, you are just a bottom feeder! mabye you should try doing something positive in life to help mankind like John does! It may be a tuff change for you but coming to the surface to see the real light is not realy that hard to do!

    Chuck H
    Last edited by chuck H; 10-05-2012, 10:07 PM. Reason: Because I can

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  • miki02131
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    Tom,

    That's it. I am going to have Sterling develop and publish that story. He will contact Rick who will provide his side. He will also contact John who already stated he will decline to talk to him. As a result, the story will reflect Rick's viewpoint only. When it makes Peswiki's front page, then come back here and tell me it was all personal business. Let's see how you like that.

    Thanks,

    Miki out.

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  • John_Bedini
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    Do you get it

    Miki02131,
    What is your real name?, Oh, Oh, Oh miki. when your told early on by Sterling that I'm going to make you look bad, what does that mean miki.When you write a story that is bogus as many know including Rick what does that mean? No one person can make life decisions for me, not even you, As I said you were not here to see anything. Go make your claim somewhere else in what you believe. Miki, I was here long before you and Sterling in this field and have worked with some of the best. I watched what was done to Tom Bearden by Sterling, I lived what was done to me. Business is business, so just stop talking like a man with a paper ass-hole. If you have information then it is one sided, is it not. If you have all the information then tell everybody here what you believe to have happned. I have figured you out from the beginning as to what you were trying to do, it wont work. "Your not this world class reporter on any of this". If you can not make something work then it's your own mind blocks . Rick is Rick and John is John, it does not mean I must continue to do anything with him. It's none of your business about anything. You have a bogus story here and your trying to get answers from me, but I see through you. Take heed, as your trying to destroy someone life here and it may not work like you have planed. Mind your own business before you regret it. Nobody will listen to you after this as you will be the one that cried Wolf. I for one have no use for you as I know the tricks and what your trying to do with my life and Ricks. Go seek guidance somewhere, your words can not hurt me one little bit.
    Take everybody's advise and get out while you can, because your not going to like what is going to happen out of all this crap. Again, YOUR NO WORLD CLASS REPORTER, just a little man that sits behind a computer typing away at meaningless crap with a bogus name. Go do some real work.

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  • stonewater
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    Originally posted by miki02131 View Post
    cifta,

    Any thread that you personally don't like, any thread that has no purpose to you personally should be closed? This says a lot about your psyche. I challenge you to show any disrespect, or any personal attack that would warrant a thread closure. Welcome to the 21st century! Welcome to the internet age!

    Does the term "circumstantial evidence" ring a bell? If it doesn't, don't blame other people for that.

    If I were to accept the notion that we human can trick the laws of nature in order to make OU happen, you would be more than happy to support this thread. Guess what? Only "God" has the power to manipulate the laws of nature and if he ever tries, he will quickly find out that he has altered the properties of this universe permanently and irreversibly.

    Thanks,
    Miki.
    this is absolutely laughable the whole post, go troll for something else. God has not visited me to tell me I have altered the "laws" of the universe. Geez dude, get a grip. lee and yang nobel prize for poynting flow? chungs negative Resistor, dollards multivibrator, scalar tech does not violate any laws. quaternion math, telsa, do I need to go on, its there if you would open your eyes. Lets see, God violates his own laws? duh He is God he can do whatever he wants the same way a police officer can speed and not give himself a ticket........ he has a higher set of laws he obeys. God has deeper insights into the universe and can manipulate them as he sees fit. I am not arrogant enough to say there is no God.

    my stuff works, said and done. miki I do not need you or anyone else to tell me my experiments are laughable, I get more out than in consistently, every time.

    circumstantial evidence is based on an a priori framework that causes you to take your suppositions to their illogical conclusion.

    leave it alone, its not about O.U. its about business. if you dont think John's tech works, then go somewhere else, I will continue to power life with it.

    Tom C
    Last edited by stonewater; 10-05-2012, 04:51 PM.

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  • citfta
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    Miki,

    If you want to start a thread about why you don't believe in OU then go ahead and start it instead of trying to stick your nose into a business decision that has absolutely nothing to do with you. I personally don't care whether you believe in OU or not. That is not any of MY business. You keep bringing that up as if you thought someone cared about your opinion of OU. None of that has anything to do with John's and Rick's decisions about their business arrangement. Go start a thread that has some purpose instead of ranting about a business decision you were not involved in.

    I have a thread started for technical discussion of projects on this forum. If you want to go there and explain why you don't believe in OU then you are welcome to state you case.

    Carroll

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  • miki02131
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    cifta,

    Any thread that you personally don't like, any thread that has no purpose to you personally should be closed? This says a lot about your psyche. I challenge you to show any disrespect, or any personal attack that would warrant a thread closure. Welcome to the 21st century! Welcome to the internet age!

    Does the term "circumstantial evidence" ring a bell? If it doesn't, don't blame other people for that.

    If I were to accept the notion that we human can trick the laws of nature in order to make OU happen, you would be more than happy to support this thread. Guess what? Only "God" has the power to manipulate the laws of nature and if he ever tries, he will quickly find out that he has altered the properties of this universe permanently and irreversibly.

    Thanks,
    Miki.

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  • citfta
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    Miki,

    You are making a lot of accusations without any evidence to back them up. Where did you get the idea Rick doesn't believe in OU? Why do you think someone owes you an explanation? This was a business relationship that didn't work out. I have been in the same situation myself. I certainly didn't feel like I owed anyone else an explanation as for why the partnership ended. It is none of our business why John and Rick split up. Don't you get that yet. It has nothing to do with any of us unless we ordered some parts and didn't get them. Does someone owe you some parts or money back? If not then what is your problem? I don't have any stake whatsoever in any of this. I am just tired of your comments when it is obvious you are only trying to stir up trouble.

    Aaron would you please close this thread. It is serving no purpose at all.

    Respectfully,
    Carroll

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  • miki02131
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    Hi John,

    You might think this is a soap opera but it's not. This story reveals much more as one begins to analyze the facts that are made available. It says a lot about the nature of the free energy world. Why was Rick promoting your tech as being OU beyond a doubt when he himself he didn't believe so? Also, why are accusing Sterling as being one-sided when you refuse to answer tough questions publicly and openly? you and Rick need to present your sides of the story in order to have fair and balance reporting. If you guys don't talk how can people ever no the truth. Again this is more than a soap opera. This is all about OU.

    thanks,

    Miki.

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi folks, Hi john, just conversing as well and only speak what i have because of direct experiences i have had.
    If one wishes to call it spiritual, then that is fine, though there is far more than meets the eye to this reality, not saying you don't already know this, just pointing it out.
    If you feel your message will create a positive constructive outcome, then that is fine also.
    We all have varying perspectives and life would be rather odd, if we all had the same.
    I built a few of the devices you've shared and they work well and I am grateful for your efforts and sharing.
    The SSG mountain bike wheel i made is rejuvenating batteries very well and hope to see some 1 to 4 charging and even without that, it's still a very useful device.
    peace love light
    tyson

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