3 Battery Generating System

[Iamnuts]

If you can get past this.

If anyone can circumvent the following, which are taken as fact by the
scientific community, then they have discovered a whole new take on
physics as we now understand it.

At this point, it might seem that the job is finished. After all, the force (F) on the coil – which equals the weight of the mass – can be calculated with a simple equation that dates from the 19th century: F = IBL, where I is the current, B is the magnetic field strength, and L is the length of the wire in the coil. However, as a practical matter, the product BL is extremely hard to measure directly to the necessary accuracy.
Fortunately, physics provides a way around that problem via yet another relationship revealed in the mid-19th century: induction. Michael Faraday discovered that a voltage is induced in a conductor when it travels through a magnetic field, and that the voltage is exactly proportional to the field strength and the velocity. So if the velocity is constant, the induced voltage is a sensitive measure of the field strength.
John.

[bistander]

Same BS

... But it is absolutely possible to build a machine that, while it is actually running, puts out more power by MANY TIMES than it takes to run.
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No, it is not.

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Just because YOU haven’t seen it doesn’t make it untrue.
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The real world (reality) makes it untrue. Physics describes that in detail.

... Anyone who has a rotor with large neo magnets on it can PROVE that to themselves by properly building a SINGLE coil correctly. It is NOT rocket science. But you do have to actually build something.

You say anyone can prove it to themselves by building something. But apparently no one can prove it to someone else. If what you say is so, why is there not a single example of it available for me to see?

It is not rocket science to know what you say is untrue. It is far beyond rocket science to actually accomplish such a feat.

A generator outputting 1800 watts while using only 300 watts, like you claim to have, would revolutionize the world as we know it. It would be the greatest machine ever built. Yet you keep the only one in existence packed away in a box too busy to save the planet. Thanks.

bi

[Turion]

Question

Ismnuts,
In whst way does the Kibble balance put a “nail in the coffin” of an OU generator? I have one sitting on the bench at my old house. In fact I have 3 different versions. No nails or coffins in sight.

Now I honestly have NO IDEA if the generator I built can be perfected to run long term because of the heat issues with the iron cores and the fact that ferrite cores, while causing less heat, may also produce less power. But it is absolutely possible to build a machine that, while it is actually running, puts out more power by MANY TIMES than it takes to run.

Just because YOU haven’t seen it doesn’t make it untrue. Anyone who has a rotor with large neo magnets on it can PROVE that to themselves by properly building a SINGLE coil correctly. It is NOT rocket science. But you do have to actually build something.

[altrez]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brookite.png.

A brookite crystal, how amazing is that?

I do not understand what that is. Can you explain more?

-Altrez

[Iamnuts]

Crystal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brookite.png.

A brookite crystal, how amazing is that?

[Iamnuts]

Another

LAYERING TITANIUM OXIDE’S DIFFERENT MINERAL FORMS FOR BETTER SOLAR CELLS
by research/ media organizations | Mar 2, 2019 | Solar Cells | 0 Comments
A Japan-based research team led by Kanazawa University improved the efficiency of a new type of solar cell with a double layer consisting of pure anatase and brookite, two different mineral forms of titanium oxide. Using water-solute brookite nanoparticle"

It looks as if titanium may turn out to be an important constituent of future
energy systems.
I thought about why the lto battery was so rare, one conclusion could be that
it’s not in the interests of battery manufacturers to make long life products.
It’s frightening to think that in my life of about 75 years we will have
gotten through a huge amount of the oil reserves.
Local generation and storage could be a vital part in sustainability of energy.
What we need is long life batteries and learn how to recycle them. Lithium
isn’t that plentiful and titanium is abundant but costly to recover.
The Kibble balance has put a nail in the coffin for any sort of OU. generator,
the physical constants must be respected otherwise nothing could be made
that always works.
The world about us is so amazing, in the long run it works perfectly. If you
think about it, everyone is unique, there’s that tiny bit of uncertainty.
If there was no uncertainty everybody would be identical.
John.

[Iamnuts]

Revolution Green.

BATTERY CONSORTIUM PROMISES ‘BIG LEAP’ IN PERFORMANCE
by research/ media organizations | Mar 2, 2019 | batteries | 0 Comments
A global battery consortium charged with advancing lead battery technology has re-launched as it prepares to unveil a raft of new research designed to take the technology to the next level. The Consortium for Battery Innovation, which includes more than 90 member...
See Revolution Green if interested.

[Turion]

SG

altrez,

You don’t use a shovel to sweep a floor and you don’t use a broom to dig a hole. Both are excellent tools for a specific job. If you are just trying to see how to shuffle electricity around the circuit and run some loads without using powe, the SG is perfect because it IS a pulse motor. If you are going to try to turn a GENERATOR with the motor I have a feeling you will be disappointed.

[altrez]

If you do not know how to use a diode bypass circuit you have never built a monopole energizer. Diode Bypass for inductive loads. Learn!!!

Matt

Matt,

I just attached a SSG to the 3BS and it worked really well. I am not sure why I have never looked at in like this before! Now I am wondering if you even need the little scooter motor at all.

Thank you,



-Altrez

[Turion]

Overheating

It is definitely the core that heats up. The molds I have were made on a 3D printer by Matt some time back. I am still a couple months away from having my old house remodeled so I can get it up for sale. That has to be my priority right now as two house payments puts a HUGE dent in my wife’s budget! And if I stop to play with this stuff she might put a dent in my head.

[Diplomacy]

Diplomacy,
The two motors will overheat run long term. They were only designed to be used in our prototypes to prove a point. I did plan to eventually test them with a ferrite core and to that end have purchased the ferrite, two part epoxy and molds necessary. Unfortunately, I don’t have the time right now.

I hear you on the not having enough time, thank you for the response.

I am thinking a MY1020 run at ~12 volts differential and the highest temperature rated magnet wire available as a start.

As an extreme measure forced air cooling like in video related can be generated from one motor running a homemade Tesla turbine force injecting air into its own casing and the casings of some other motors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnmpt9BQk_0

I remember seeing a post showing a ferrite mold made in a 3D printer.

Is it the core or the windings that overheat?

[Turion]

Diplomacy,
The two motors will overheat run long term. They were only designed to be used in our prototypes to prove a point. I did plan to eventually test them with a ferrite core and to that end have purchased the ferrite, two part epoxy and molds necessary. Unfortunately, I don’t have the time right now.

[Diplomacy]

1. That a generator can be built that produces 2000 watts?
2. That it can be turned by a motor running onn24 volts at 12-13 amps (around 300 watts)
3. Or that 70% or better of the 300 watts can be recovered.

I DO eventually want to finish my research to see if I can get a core material, probably ferrite, that puts out significant power and still supports the delayed lenz necessary to get the kind of results I was getting with iron cores. As I have stated before, the setup I detailed here absolutely WORKS, but with iron cores, heat becomes an issue after about 30 minutes of running the generator. This prompted me to look at some other things that are now my focus but present a different set of problems. However, I released all this stuff about the generator in hopes others would contribute to helping find the right coil core material. That hasn’t happened, so since no one wants to contribute, I see no need to waste my time proving anything to anybody. There are so few people who actually have the time and money to spend to be successful at this stuff it is sad.

I might have an answer for you sir, cheap and easy to build

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_silicate

Go all the way down to Step 9:
https://www.instructables.com/id/Mak...gnetic-fields/

Any sizes can be accomplished through additive layers of the ferrite sodium silicate mix, you could even go more exotic and throw in small amounts of the right materials in addition to the iron, graphene, powdered tourmaline, a very tiny amount of bismuth powder, etc.

A mold could be made by hand, a small amount of water and a file is sufficient for working the material.

If it is going to be in a wet or humid environment the outer layer should be covered in a waterproof epoxy or paint or something.

I believe you about your generator.

[Turion]

Question

Iamnuts,
That would definitely be the goal I would shoot for. But here’s what I don’t understand about those who doubt I even have a generator that meets those specs.

What is it you don’t believe?
1. That a generator can be built that produces 2000 watts?
2. That it can be turned by a motor running onn24 volts at 12-13 amps (around 300 watts)
3. Or that 70% or better of the 300 watts can be recovered.

I still have not even had the time to move my generator from the old house to the new one, so am still months away from having the time to prove any of this to anyone, but I AM really curious. I DO eventually want to finish my research to see if I can get a core material, probably ferrite, that puts out significant power and still supports the delayed lenz necessary to get the kind of results I was getting with iron cores. As I have stated before, the setup I detailed here absolutely WORKS, but with iron cores, heat becomes an issue after about 30 minutes of running the generator. This prompted me to look at some other things that are now my focus but present a different set of problems. However, I released all this stuff about the generator in hopes others would contribute to helping find the right coil core material. That hasn’t happened, so since no one wants to contribute, I see no need to waste my time proving anything to anybody. There are so few people who actually have the time and money to spend to be successful at this stuff it is sad.

[Diplomacy]

I have been reading this thread again and using the search function to find references to this project wherever they are posted in other threads.

It seems that for the modified motor the MY1020 is superior to the MY1016, have either of them ever been used with the modified windings on a continuous basis without burning up eventually?

Is it just a trick of using a 12-14.5 volt differential rather than increasing the voltage, what voltages have you run it at for long periods without burning it up?

Has progress been made on this front?

I am not as interested in the generators, it is good work, but I specifically want the rotational force and have a low torque fairly simple tech application for it (using Tesla turbines made of either CDs for relative chemical inertness for dealing with water and other room temperature fluids and made of hdd platters and metal parts for dealing with gases, instructions already exist elsewhere).

I have money set aside for this project and am going to be committing to a particular build, currently looking at the MY1020 because the predrilled vent holes look like they would be good for forcing air through to keep it a bit cooler.