Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[Dave45]

We can do the same with coils, and the advantage with coils is they can be tuned to resonance, a frictionless SEG.
The price tag using coils is considerably less as well, soft iron wire for cores.
If you build it, better nail it down

[Utopia Now]

Law of Squares Searl

Here in this youtube film is also talk about the Law of Squares.
Russel Anderson who was on the Breakthrough Energy Movement Conference in Holland says it is Possible

Team Searl Member and CEO and Head of R&D for Searl Aerospace Russell Anderson talks about Breakthrough Energy and Magnetic Motors

Link link2

[qvision]

Some great results here.

What are people's thoughts on using the output ?

Suppose we had an appliance which required a step-down in voltage, is it possible to step down the output and still get the effect ?


Thanks,

DC.

[T-1000]

There is common fact in all those mechanical machines:
At the certain speed the resonance is hit and when speed goes over it the load does help rotor instead of fighting against movement because the Lenz force is too slow for conventional reaction.

For example, even with Faraday motor and generator rotoverter combination it is same. Here are Bruce Depalma videos if interested in that topic:
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/brucedepalma.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/brucedepalma2.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/depalmanmachine1.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/depalmanmachine2.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/depalmanmachine3.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/depalmanmachine4.wmv

Also Thane Heins had same thing...

Good luck everyone!

[Dave45]

Mechanical systems are great examples but not many have the money and expertise to build them, anything that can be done with magnets can be done with coils, when you want to build a permanent magnet system you have to use more than one or two magnets and the same for coils you have to build a working system, permanent magnets systems are good examples to follow.

If you study the Hendershot device it is laid out like the v gate, Im not sure how much power it will put out but look at the v gate then look a the SEG. The electromagnetic SEG would rock.

[Farmhand]

There is common fact in all those mechanical machines:
At the certain speed the resonance is hit and when speed goes over it the load does help rotor instead of fighting against movement because the Lenz force is too slow for conventional reaction.

For example, even with Faraday motor and generator rotoverter combination it is same. Here are Bruce Depalma videos if interested in that topic:
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/brucedepalma.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/brucedepalma2.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/depalmanmachine1.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/depalmanmachine2.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/depalmanmachine3.wmv
http://www.classicenergyvideos.com/depalmanmachine4.wmv

Also Thane Heins had same thing...

Good luck everyone!

At the certain speed the resonance is hit and when speed goes over it the
load does help rotor instead of fighting against movement because the Lenz
force is too slow for conventional reaction.

I disagree. At the speed resonance is hit Lenz is at it's most intense as is the
generating ability, When the speed goes over it the generating ability is
reduced and so is the Lenz effect, which gives the appearance of the load
helping the rotor to speed up. But in reality it is just a reduction in the Lenz
effect which is in line with the generating effect.

The Lenz effect is a representation of the energy being transferred from the
supply to the load.

To get the most dramatic effect the Lenz effect is increased with resonance
to produce a lot of real and/or reactive power which is the source of the
increased Lens effect, when the resonance is destroyed so is the power and
the Lenz effect is reduced showing a decrease in loading on the prime mover
so it speeds up.

But feel free to spend as much time as you like on it. Decreasing the input
power with a load is very easy to do, but it is not very practical because the
power becomes less.

Thane shows a setup where he increases the effect of Lenz to maximum with
no load, then the load destroys the generating effect as well as reduces the
Lenz effect. It is trick. It plays on peoples desire to see the input power
decrease under load.

I put it to you T1000 that you desire to produce a system that produces a
reduction in input power when loaded so that you can claim some kind of OU
by doing that.
But the reality is without the load power exceeding the input power in total
there is no OU.

Reducing power under load is very easy to do if you understand what causes it.

I can do it with many setups and have demonstrated it with three or four
different setups now. I have seen no one do it and produce any continuous
output power in excess of the input power.

In all situations a reduction in input power under load is in accordance with
the conventional laws of physics and/or the natural laws of physics it is well
enough explained.

Watch this MIT lecture.

At 35:55 he explains how it happens.
Lec 20 | MIT 8.02 Electricity and Magnetism, Spring 2002 - YouTube

The current restriction caused by the frequency also restricts the Lenz
effect. The current is what causes the Lenz effect. Reduce the current
reduce the Lenz, it's simple. And it's a trick, in my opinion anyway.

To get Zero Lenz you must get zero current causing it.

Reductions in input power mean nothing, what matters is the energy consumed
compared to the energy utilized.

Cheers

[janost]

i did some measurements on the reactor with the quadrature demodulator bridge.

Without a load over the cap it charges the capacitor to 18volts and stops.

I need to measure input and output currents with the resistor method to know what is going on

[Dave45]

In a mechanical system we try to reduce lenz when lenz is what we are trying to capture.
Lenz occurs in our cores because we have failed to separate the magnetic and electric fields, thats where the iron toroid comes in we can use it for a barrier, I posted a link to a vid awhile back put out by Photoninduction that shows this effect.

[T-1000]

At the certain speed the resonance is hit and when speed goes over it the
load does help rotor instead of fighting against movement because the Lenz
force is too slow for conventional reaction.

I disagree. At the speed resonance is hit Lenz is at it's most intense as is the
generating ability, When the speed goes over it the generating ability is
reduced and so is the Lenz effect, which gives the appearance of the load
helping the rotor to speed up. But in reality it is just a reduction in the Lenz
effect which is in line with the generating effect.

DePalma N-machine 11/18 - YouTube - this is where conventional scientist says "it is impossible". You may disagree if you wish but the same effect was used to turn Faraday motor+generator into self running machine plus giving mechanical power to run conventional generator..

[janost]

How do you calculate ampereturns?

If I would insert a coil in the 730volt 33mA LC resonance with 100 turns would I really have 7.3volt 3.3Amps in a singel turn secondary if I used a thick gauge wire for the secondary?

Or are there losses that say that the secondary needs to have at least a number of turns?

Ok, I think I got it, its about the magnetic field produced.

If I make 10 secondarys and wire them parallell would be better than just a single turn thick gauge?

That would be a toroid with a copperpipe as the 1turn secondary winding?

[bboj]

DePalma N-machine 11/18 - YouTube - this is where conventional scientist says "it is impossible". You may disagree if you wish but the same effect was used to turn Faraday motor+generator into self running machine plus giving mechanical power to run conventional generator..

If this machine ren on its own - where did the energy come from?

[boguslaw]

Dave45


Ah, it's simple. Lenz occur only when there is current flow, because electrons flip and electrons are Ed Leedscalnin magnets. Thus separation is impossible but there are other ways

[T-1000]

If this machine ren on its own - where did the energy come from?

Obviously this question can't be answered so easily. Bruce Depalma is long dead and you can only guess what hapens when generated electrical energy is more than enough to overcome mechanical rotating resiatance of Faraday disks... The Lenz law also is not there as there is no wire cutting through magnetic field.

[boguslaw]

If this machine ren on its own - where did the energy come from?

We are not living in vacuum. Of course energy comes from external field which scientists erroneously (?) described as weak..

[Dave45]

Dave45


Ah, it's simple. Lenz occur only when there is current flow, because electrons flip and electrons are Ed Leedscalnin magnets. Thus separation is impossible but there are other ways

We can separate them thats what a coil does, check out Z pinch, the magnetic field is compressed space.