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  • Originally posted by zilano
    hI MIKE!

    MY R DOES IT! AFTER SECONDARY AND B4 MY 1:1 TRANSFORMER RATED AT 60 AMPS 250 VOLTS. R ACTS AS LOW PASS PASS FILTER. AND ALLOWS FREQUENCIES LIKE 50 HZ TO PASS THRU TRANSFORMER. AND STOPS HF PASSING ONTO TRANSFORMER.

    RGDS
    ZZZ
    What you describe:
    RL circuit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Parallel Circuit

    Quote:
    The parallel RL circuit is generally of less interest than the series circuit unless fed by a current source. This is largely because the output voltage Vout is equal to the input voltage Vin as a result, this circuit does not act as a filter for a voltage input signal.
    A resistor across an inductor is NO Lowpass Filter !
    A Low pass Filter requires a series resistor !
    Low-pass filter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And even if you would use a Lowpass Filter, your "All-frequency"-signal would still INCLUDE the frequencies in the Passband below 50 Hz, like 40 Hz,30 Hz etc that would NOT give you a clean 50 Hz AC output.
    It is impossible to run appliances with such a signal, so your device cannot work.

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    • Originally posted by zilano
      Hi Xeno!

      its nice to see u here!

      u r right. we have to use a capacitor and a resistor(lower the frequency here 50 or 60 hz that is power factor capacitor and use a diode to join R (across the transformer) b4 R and join R across the transformer input.

      thats the solution!

      regards

      zilano zeis zane!



      So first you state that in your supposed device all frequency correction is being done with one magic resistor, now you suddenly state that power factor caps and diodes are the "solution" and no talk anymore of "parallel R-Lowpass-filters" ?
      I mean come on ...
      Last edited by Xenomorph; 08-17-2011, 06:12 PM.

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      • Hi ZILANO !
        Your device seems to be incredibly
        simple compares to all the schematics
        seen everywhere , so i have a question:
        In your opinion what is the use of the
        sinewave generator followed by powerful
        Push-pull and connected to an extra coil
        on mots schematics ?
        Best regards and thanks for all your data !

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        • Thanks for your answer ZILANO !

          I hope that soon you'll share a video and schematics of your device !

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          • Originally posted by zilano
            hI FOLKS!

            SEE THE ATTACHED PIC!

            AND GET THE SOLUTION FOR FREE!

            DON SECRET REVEALED FINALLY!

            WISH U ALL THE LUCK!

            LETS SEE SOME DEVICES FROM MEMBERS AND GUESTS!

            VIEW THE CIRCUIT AS ATTACHMENT

            REGARDS

            ZILANO ZEIS ZANE!


            So that IS the exact working circuit of your alleged 10 kW device now ?

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            • Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
              So that IS the exact working circuit of your alleged 10 kW device now ?
              I'm a bit curious, Xeno. Do you and Zilano have some history here, because you've come down a bit hard on him. Given that 99% of what is spouted on these FE forums ranges from pure fantasy to sheer incompetence, I don't know why anyone would make such an effort to debunk someone who appears to be posting in good faith, unless there is some established effort to defraud.

              Zilano isn't selling anything as far as I know and hasn't taken anybody's money. Many of his observations have a ring of truth to them, although some raise an eyebrow or two. Given that I doubt that you have a functional 10Kw device, you clearly do not have the answers, so it is possible that the answers are outside your understanding. I'm not saying Zilano does, but I am of the opinion the we give someone the benefit of the doubt until it is clear that he has an ulterior motive.

              I am absolutely not trying to pick a fight, but you have the option of simply not reading the thread if you don't believe what he says. I personally really don't have an opinion yet...but...the forum pissing match schtick grows very thin after a while. I am respectfully asking that you take it outside.

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              • Thank You Lt Bolo

                Originally posted by LtBolo View Post
                I'm a bit curious, Xeno. Do you and Zilano have some history here, because you've come down a bit hard on him. Given that 99% of what is spouted on these FE forums ranges from pure fantasy to sheer incompetence, I don't know why anyone would make such an effort to debunk someone who appears to be posting in good faith, unless there is some established effort to defraud.

                Zilano isn't selling anything as far as I know and hasn't taken anybody's money. Many of his observations have a ring of truth to them, although some raise an eyebrow or two. Given that I doubt that you have a functional 10Kw device, you clearly do not have the answers, so it is possible that the answers are outside your understanding. I'm not saying Zilano does, but I am of the opinion the we give someone the benefit of the doubt until it is clear that he has an ulterior motive.

                I am absolutely not trying to pick a fight, but you have the option of simply not reading the thread if you don't believe what he says. I personally really don't have an opinion yet...but...the forum pissing match schtick grows very thin after a while. I am respectfully asking that you take it outside.
                Lt Bolo

                I couldn't agree with you more or say anything more --you hit the nail on the head --good job----Paul

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                • Originally posted by zilano
                  hI FOLKS!

                  SEE THE ATTACHED PIC!

                  AND GET THE SOLUTION FOR FREE!

                  DON SECRET REVEALED FINALLY!

                  WISH U ALL THE LUCK!

                  LETS SEE SOME DEVICES FROM MEMBERS AND GUESTS!

                  VIEW THE CIRCUIT AS ATTACHMENT

                  REGARDS

                  ZILANO ZEIS ZANE!



                  Thank you Zilano


                  Keep up the good work!

                  For initial testing I will just plug in light bulbs to test for amps.

                  It would be fantastic to get the values of the R components for 60hz 240vac output.

                  Cheers Mike

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                  • About resistor frequency divider.It MAY work. Notice Tesla harpin circuit when a copper bus is placed as shunt and still bulb can be lighted WHEN PLACED PROPERLY. Now I understand it this way: ordinary current flow via copper bus bar while displacement or magnetic or radiant or whatever else is creating standing wave patter via load or both load and bus bar.
                    The resistance for such currents may be just like bus bar in harpin circuit. Only for particular reactance such circuit can pass normal current via coil and produce magnetic response.The rest of time energy is flowing in RLC circuit but is watless producing only electrostatic response in coil (electric field around probably ionizing air a bit)

                    Just a bit of crazy theory...

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                    • @LtBolo:
                      Now that he posted his circuit, let everybody build it.
                      Then we'll see. Easy.

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                      • Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                        About resistor frequency divider.It MAY work. Notice Tesla harpin circuit when a copper bus is placed as shunt and still bulb can be lighted WHEN PLACED PROPERLY. Now I understand it this way: ordinary current flow via copper bus bar while displacement or magnetic or radiant or whatever else is creating standing wave patter via load or both load and bus bar.
                        The resistance for such currents may be just like bus bar in harpin circuit. Only for particular reactance such circuit can pass normal current via coil and produce magnetic response.The rest of time energy is flowing in RLC circuit but is watless producing only electrostatic response in coil (electric field around probably ionizing air a bit)

                        Just a bit of crazy theory...
                        ...and if you buy into some of Bill Alek's torsion physics discussions, a resistor ends up dissipating negative real power when imaginary power flows through it. Given that any system that produces 'free' energy may well be doing seriously unnatural things with the normal reactive power quadrants, I think it is an obvious conclusion that what we 'know' about electronics may not apply.

                        I find it disingenuous at best for folks to be ragging on something as being inconsistent with their textbook, when they don't have a working device themselves and clearly don't posses the knowledge to build one. I would fully expect it to be different than what we 'know', wouldn't you?

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                        • hi zilano ...
                          can i use ZVS for HV source ??

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                          • Originally posted by LtBolo View Post
                            ...and if you buy into some of Bill Alek's torsion physics discussions, a resistor ends up dissipating negative real power when imaginary power flows through it. Given that any system that produces 'free' energy may well be doing seriously unnatural things with the normal reactive power quadrants, I think it is an obvious conclusion that what we 'know' about electronics may not apply.

                            I find it disingenuous at best for folks to be ragging on something as being inconsistent with their textbook, when they don't have a working device themselves and clearly don't posses the knowledge to build one. I would fully expect it to be different than what we 'know', wouldn't you?
                            And lets not forget there are two parts of Zilano's interpretation of Don Smith's and Tesla's "ambient energy" collector.

                            As Zilano explains the first part is the "Reverse Tesla Coil". That is the major part of this design.

                            The output can easily be rectified and then through an inverter converted to 50-60hz ac output.

                            It would be really nice to go directly from 35khz to 60hz, as that would save on the costs on not having to buy inverters and battery banks. As people using solar energy knows these balance of system costs are not cheap. An inverter/battery charger for a 10kw solar house runs $6k and another $4k for a battery bank.

                            Cheers Mike

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                            • I appreciate what you are saying Zilano, but many have tried and failed to convert apparent power (high VARS) into real power. If it were truly that simple I think this would have been solved many years ago.

                              Is the key the reverse Tesla coil? Or is the key in the high frequency to low frequency crystal radio conversion? Or is the key in the spark + resonance?

                              If it is spark + resonance, and the other things are just about converting the power to a usable voltage, current, and frequency, then I would strongly suggest that the extra power is coming from some quantum source and what appears to be a conversion of apparent power to real power is really just an impedance matching of the power already gained up in the primary.

                              But that's just my opinion. You are the one with the functional generator, I'm just wanting one.

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                              • Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

                                Please google:

                                http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapter3.pdf

                                Chapter 3 is from Patrick Kelly's book Free Energy Devices.

                                On page 35 and 48 of this document you'll find the circuit Zilano released. There is a lot of information in Chapter 3 about Donald Smith devices.

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