The American Ruling Class

[Aaron]

psychopaths

Done some research on sociopaths, as well as having some personal experience. I would say it is bot; genetic, and CAN be a 'learned' responce.
Mainly, I believe it is a 'random' genetic mutation that occurs in individuals.

But, apply Darwins theory to it; in a hunter/gatherer society, 25 to 250 (max) individuals, living together in a very close knit, interdependent community, where co-operation is essential, for the individual AND the group, a sociopath would gradually 'burn' their relationships with everyone in the group, and be banished, greatly decreasing their chances to procreate, and pass on their mutation.

In contrast, our modern society actually is breeding sociopaths, and in our society, where you can 're-invent' yourself and move from neighborhood to neighborhood and job to job, (finding an endless source of new victims), and use the 'benefits' of being a sociopath to improve your status in society and increase your likelyhood of procreating.

There are studies indicating sociopaths, as a percentage of the whole, are definetly on the increase. Darwin would say that it because they have survival advantages over non-sociopaths, and if society doesn't change, so that they no longer have such an advantage, eventually everyone will be sociopaths.

Actually, when I was talking about 'human nature', I wasn't talking so much about sociopaths, as about common traits we all have; a tendency to avoid addressing a problem, until it becomes a crises, a tendency to look short term, etc. Many of these are ways of thinking which evolved over our 100 thousand plus years as hunter/gatherers, but simply don't 'serve' us well, today.
For instance, there is nothing in such heritage, that really prepares us for dealing with financial matters.
As a H/G, if you go into an area and have very poor hunting, you tend to avoid that area; there is an expectation that a bad (or good, for that matter) experience will be repeated, and it makes sense, and was 'passed on'.

However, when you look at how most people invest in the stock market, where they are applying this way of thinking, they do poorly. The time to invest in a stock is when it is DOWN, yet most people invest when it is way up. This is what leads to 'financial bubbles', and even the 'pro's' fall for it.

Anyway, this is one example. Another is our preference (generally) for 'skyscrapers'; go to any city, anywhere in the world, and whether it is commercial or residencial, the higher you go, the higher the rent; we have a subliminal preference for living high up, where we can see a long ways.

As H/G's, this makes sense; even a little elevation can greatly improve your ability to see danger coming, a long ways a way. So, on a subliminal level, we like having such a view, although we don't consciously know why, and we are even willing to pay more for it.

But, are we really safer, being higher in a sky scraper? There's not just 911, where the people at the top got killed, and the people lower down were able to get out, (assuming you believe that, of coarse). Logically, in the event of a fire, which has happened many times, being on the second or 3rd floor greatly increases the likelyhood you'll get out alive, as opposed to being in the penthouse.

So, made logical sense as H/G's, not so much as modern 'civilised' humans living in our society.

We have no 'wiring' in our brains to deal with chronic, specific threats. And so you see someone railing about a news story of BPH (or whatever it is) being put in plastic food containers, that may cause Cancer. Meanwhile, they are smoking a pack a day, breathing dirty air, living in an earhtquake zone, etc.

People living in these orest fire zones, who evacuate with the clothes on their back, and no plan, etc. We just don't deal well with CHRONIC threats, cause our H/G ancestors didn't face (at least KNOWINGLY) chronic, ongoing threats, and so we aren't wired to deal with them. Anyway, these are some of the aspects of human nature I was talking about. I think 'evolution' doesn't occur quickly enough for us to have adapted to the phenominal amount of change thats occurreed in only 10,000 years. Or, perhaps sociopaths ARE an example of such a change. Jim

There is definitely a genetic element to a psychopath and it is quite physically wired into a person usually by birth, but I think if circumstances are extreme enough, it can develop in someone who has no history. If someone experiences enough abuse, I think they're capacity to feel empathy could be crushed. Then they can retaliate by killing someone without remorse. The psychopath's brain has almost no activity in that area that is related to empathy.



This is an interesting story -neuroscientist studies psychopaths and realizes he is a psychopath - The Neuroscientist Who Discovered He Was a Psychopath | Science | Smithsonian

It seems to me that it is a genetic defect where the person has not fully evolved away from the reptilian brain that is only concerned with predatory behavior to ensure it's own survival - that is the highest form of a physically manifested ego - and for the most part it is passed down from generation to generation. They are attracted to any type of work that enables them to some type of control or authority over others - politicians, etc...

I've had a few run-ins with full blown psychopaths and the most prolific is the degenerate that attacked Eric Dollard and I.

One thing to know about these people is that the #1 fear that they have is of getting caught and exposed. When they know you mountains of incriminating evidence against them that ties them to things like child porn, politically extreme rants, etc... it somewhat keeps them in check because they don't want that going out.

That is why I believe so many people in congress and other high levels are all paid actors at this point is that they are afraid of being exposed by the NSA who probably has encyclopedias full of incriminating data against them. Anyone of good conscious would tell them to screw themselves and they would just expose the crooks anyway and we only see a small trace of people like this who ever come forward.

Came across this recently - been wanting to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGyvxqYSbE

[aljhoa]

Human Nature / sociopaths
Human Defect / psychopaths

How to Tell a Sociopath from a Psychopath

Understanding important distinctions between criminal sociopaths and psychopaths
Published on January 22, 2014 by Scott A. Bonn, Ph.D

The cause of psychopathy is different than the cause of sociopathy (1).
It is believed that psychopathy is the result of “nature” (genetics)
while sociopathy is the result of “nurture” (environment).
Psychopathy is related to a physiological defect that results in the underdevelopment of
the part of the brain responsible for impulse control and emotions.
Sociopathy, on the other hand, is more likely the product of childhood trauma and physical/emotional abuse.
Because sociopathy appears to be learned rather than innate, sociopaths are capable of empathy in
certain limited circumstances but not in others, and with a few individuals but not others.
How to Tell a Sociopath from a Psychopath | Psychology Today

Al

[aljhoa]

The cream rises to the top


Every 1000 years or so, the COCKROACHES are eliminated and the strong survive.

Nature always spring cleans her cockroaches out.

Боль в спине в области крестца


Al

[TheoriaApophasis]

Боль в спине в области крестца


Al

Tараканы всюду , но банку газа для них всех!

[TheoriaApophasis]

How to Tell a Sociopath from a Psychopath

Al

ALL THAT CRAP doesnt even exist. its a pathetic BS construct of Western pseudo-science, ie psychology


Alexander the Great would be "diagnosed" a psychopath


Tesla would be "diagnosed" as a sociopath



ALL THIS BS is a pathetic invention from pinhead morons in academia in the dept. of psychology

its meaningless TRASH and NONSENSE.


wise up

[Dog-One]

Came across this recently - been wanting to watch it: Defense Against the Psychopath (Full length Version) - YouTube

Actually a pretty good documentary Aaron. Thanks for posting it.

Briefly mentioned in there and I feel it most important is that these type of people (assign whatever label you want Ken), have nothing to lose, so if you go toe to toe with them, you'd better be willing to go all the way and you better make sure they know that up front. Otherwise you become a sacrifice. The only motivation they seem to have is to keep their winning streak alive. If it looks like you may take that away, they'll find better hunting grounds, provided you leave them that option.

[dutchdivco]

Actually,...

Dog-one recently expressed some appreciation for one of my previous posts, and others have previously posted similar sentiments. On the other hand,..."Theo", all I see are people weighing in that YOU should be BANNED from this thread, and site, for your posts. And yet you post "No one CARES what you think".
Other than giving us a posible example of a Psychopath/Sociopath to observe, hard to see what you are contributing to this thread, other than vitriol.

DARN it, I posted more than once that the ONLY way to deal with a TROLL is to 'quit feeding it', and then I fell in the trap, myself.

Note to both Rick and Forum admin; I think enough warnings have been given, and its time to pull the plug; see the most recent posts as evidence the message isn't getting thru. Jim

[5150]

I think if TheoriaApophasis can refrain from personal attacks he does bring a few good arguments to the table. Although "rough in your face" type of responses often don't go over really well I do at least like his opinions and his perspective.

I do think he comes off a little too "know it all" but thats more of a personal opinion and nothing I can change nor should it really matter.

[aljhoa]

ALL THAT CRAP doesnt even exist. its a pathetic BS construct of Western pseudo-science, ie psychology

wise up

Dangerous Liaisons by Claudia Moscovici - YouTube


Al

[5150]

A few things here I want to point out about the Lamestream media, this time it’s MSN.

First I notice they have comments open for readers to post but you have to be a Slavebook urrr I mean Facebook “user” in order to post comments and that’s not happening with me.

Now let me address the blatant double talk in this most recent Ebola article which can be found at this link


Texas healthcare worker diagnosed with Ebola as CDC suggests breach of safety protocol



Here are examples of the double talk,

Dr Varga added that the hospital was not taking any other emergency patients. Answering questions, he said the healthcare worker was wearing full protection gear and following all CDC guidelines when he or she made contact with Duncan.

Then this is what Judge Jenkins said;

Judge Jenkins said: “I want to stress an important fact. You cannot contract Ebola other than from bodily fluids of a symptomatic Ebola victim. You cannot contract Ebola by walking by people in the street or from contacts who are not symptomatic. There is nothing about this case that changes that basic premise of science.

So if we are to believe the Judge in his comments then how is it that a healthcare worker who was wearing full protective gear and following all CDC guidelines was then able to contract Ebola??????

A very simple question that stands out as the double talk they are spewing. Are they afraid of panic? Are they lying to keep calm??? Whatever their motives the experts lose credibility with each passing day. However I really wouldn’t consider a Judge an expert just another spewing mouthpiece who doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Additionally, notice the Frisco Fire Department Ambulance unloading the patient, showing clearly the patient is a white male and most likely from Frisco Texas. Also notice the attendant who is assisting this man out of the ambulance again is in full protection gear and also probably following every CDC guideline. I wonder if this particular healthcare worker will be next with Ebola, or maybe another patient that rides in this same Frisco ambulance. Is this person in the full gear even the ambulance driver? If not then possibly the ambulance driver too is now infected and has taken the Ebola virus back to Frisco. I have a hunch Frisco will be the location of a few more cases of Ebola very soon! So many unanswered questions

We should also not that the Hospital has said this via Dr. Varga;

Dr Varga added that the hospital was not taking any other emergency patients.

My question is if they are now no longer accepting patients where are any new patients to go? Why should they be afraid to care for any new patients if what Judge Jenken’s has declared that nobody can contract Ebola from just casual passing or being around a person with Ebola???

I am also of the opinion it’s a very bad precedent to shut down this hospital and then send new Ebola patients to other hospitals, thus contaminating those other hospitals and helping the spread of the virus. To me it seems these experts are just grasping at straws and their own actions are causing further spread of the Ebola virus. The question remains if this is simply incompetence or is it somewhat planned.

I am also curious to see if or how this white male takes to the treatment and if he too will be cured like the other white male patient in Atlanta or if he will succumb to the same fate and Mr. Duncan. Only time will tell but we can be sure if he does live that Rev Rainbow Jackson will claim the race card when it might be something genetic that allows the whites to recover at greater rates than blacks, but its just a shallow theory at this point and I only make the observation due to Rev. Jackaason already bringing up the race card. .

Then after reading up on Judge Jenkins I have determined he is a total buffoon!

You can read for yourself and see the facts speak clearly he is not for the people of Texas or the USA. How these people ever win elections is so far beyond me but I digress.

Here he is seen leaving the Ebola apartment claiming there is nothing to worry about regarding Mr. Duncan. (who of course succumbed to Ebola)




(Above) DALLAS, TX - OCTOBER 02: Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins exits a unit at the Ivy Apartments, where the confirmed Ebola virus patient was staying, on October 2, 2014 in Dallas, Texas. The first confirmed Ebola virus patient in the United States was staying with family members at The Ivy Apartment complex before being treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas. State and local officials are working with federal officials to monitor other individuals that had contact with the confirmed patient. (Photo by Tom Pennington/Getty Images)

and the image that sums up everything wrong with this buffoon judge is this one below



additional reading on the buffoon

Ebola Response Puts Jenkins in Spotlight, Again | The Texas Tribune

[rickoff]

You will probably remember the stories that I posted earlier concerning the New York City High Rise Safety Initiative (HRSI), which has been a grassroots campaign to force the city to conduct an independent investigation into the collapse of WTC Building 7. The effort was aimed at getting the issue onto this November's ballot, which required obtaining 15,000 valid petition signatures. In the end, the petition drive had gathered more than 100,000 signatures, but NY City officials, as noted earlier, did everything possible to thwart this effort, and refused to allow the item onto the ballot. With time running out, and a ballot cutoff date approaching, the issue was taken to the NY state court system. The lower court appointed a referee to study the legality of the HRSI, and while the referee agreed that enough valid signatures had been obtained, the referee stated that the HRSI failed to meet two conditional rules for ballot inclusion, and the judge ruled against HRSI ballot inclusion. That decision was appealed to the NY Supreme Court, where once again a judge ruled to accept the referee's conclusion without hearing the group's legal challenges. The HRSI group has decided not to further appeal that decision, since an appeal would take too long for the item to appear on this November's ballot, and if the appeal were lost it would make getting the item onto a future ballot very difficult. The group notes that only two ballot inclusion citizen initiatives have ever succeeded in NYC, and neither of these included a project financing proposal, which was one of the two reasons the referee had cited the initiative for non-compliance with the rules. The referee stated that the investigation financing proposal would in effect amount to a "tax," rather than a fee, imposed on all new building permits.

To read more about this, go here.

This thwarted People's effort goes to illustrate why it is absolutely necessary that the People's Common Law Grand Jury (CLGJ) effort must succeed. If the New York CLGJ had already been given court access and recognized by the NY judicial system, the HRSI group could have taken the matter directly to the CLGJ, which could have done an investigation into alleged NYC related 9-11 crimes, written a presentment, and issued indictments against suspects based upon supportive evidence. Likewise, any city or court officials attempting to obstruct justice, or tamper with the CLGJ or petite jury, would be indicted. Our current justice system has become so perverted that we will never see true justice served unless the People retake their control of the CLGJ's as established in the Bill Of Rights, and prohibit statutory Grand Juries.

[dutchdivco]

Rick and 5150

Rick;
Your post eloquently points out WHY these 'Grand juries' will never be officially allowed to convene; it is a direct, 'in your face' threat to the established order. They will follow the playbook; step 1, ignore. Step 2, suppress, step 3, co-opt. And, just as they did with this ballot initiative, they can USE the 'system', to suppress any effort which directly threatens them.

Hence, I fear you cannot work within the system, to overturn those who control the system.

5150; I also feel the CDC hasn't done a piss-poor job of handling (bungling) this whole Ebola thing, although I don't see a conspiracy, I DO see incompetence. Firstly, just months ago we had several instances of gross incompetence with the CDC sending out live anthrax to 40 labs around the country, mistakenly thinking it was inactive (dead). THEN we learn they had live smallpox virus sitting for 40 years in an unsecured storage room.

And then we see how they continue to describe the various mis-steps regarding this 'patient -0-', as 'bumps in the road'. EXCUSE me! hen people commit obvious errors which result in people being exposed, its NOT a 'mis-step', or a 'speed bump'; its a trainwreck.

They come out and say they have full confidence in the screening procedures being implemented in Africa; taking temps and ASKING the passengers if they have symptoms or have been exposed.

Even after patient -0- obviously gets right thru these procedures. HEN they announce they are going to implement 'additiona' measures. And what are they? To doi the SAME taking temps and ASKING the passengers the same questions, when they arrive here! HELLO?

Why doesn't 'Homeland Security' just ASK every passenger "Are you a TERRORIST, going to the U.S. to carry out a terrorist attack?" ,....."No, well o.k. then, thats good enough for me!"

There IS a 'foolproof' way of keeping Ebola out; QUARANTINE each person, either PRIOR to departure, or upon arrival, for 21 days. And yet no one is talking about that. Its all 'volontary this and voluntary that'. And the press, for whatever reasons is going along with all this, and NOT asking the tough questions. Probably being told "We don't want a panic".

Oh, and I agree it is GOOD to have various opinions expressed, including dissent. I have often expressed doubts as to what are conspiracies, and what is just incompetence. But in order for such views to be expressed, they have to be heard, and if an 'in your face' ,....style prevents people from hearing your view, it is counter-productive. Jim

[5150]

Rick;
Your post eloquently points out WHY these 'Grand juries' will never be officially allowed to convene; it is a direct, 'in your face' threat to the established order. They will follow the playbook; step 1, ignore. Step 2, suppress, step 3, co-opt. And, just as they did with this ballot initiative, they can USE the 'system', to suppress any effort which directly threatens them.

Hence, I fear you cannot work within the system, to overturn those who control the system. Jim

Jim I think you said it best. Rick I too feel the same way Jim does here and think that although its great to at least try to work inside the system first the truth is that the system is set up to work against the people.

Then when the system is blatantly wrong as it is in this situation anyone protesting or acting up will then in the eyes of the system be a criminal or engaging in criminal activity, thus again only helping to enforce the entire power and control the system has over the people.

Just like the banking cartel, you cant work outside of it (it's illegal) and yet when you work within it you get screwed out of money at every turn.

[Dog-One]

5150; I also feel the CDC hasn't done a piss-poor job of handling (bungling) this whole Ebola thing, although I don't see a conspiracy, I DO see incompetence. Firstly, just months ago we had several instances of gross incompetence with the CDC sending out live anthrax to 40 labs around the country, mistakenly thinking it was inactive (dead). THEN we learn they had live smallpox virus sitting for 40 years in an unsecured storage room.

Jim, 5150,

My father use to say this expression very often, "Never contribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity."

I thought about that for years, then one day I asked my Pa, "So what if a person with a real agenda, puts into place a whole host of incompetent people, knowing they will be incapable of handling the task given to them? The real agenda being to make a mess of everything. Wouldn't that be malice disguised as stupidity or incompetence?"

My dear old dad never repeated that sentence again.


Just a quick note: It doesn't have to be a conspiracy, one man with the necessary authority can do this. Then just sit back and watch it play out.

[Allcanadian]

@Aaron

There is definitely a genetic element to a psychopath and it is quite physically wired into a person usually by birth, but I think if circumstances are extreme enough, it can develop in someone who has no history. If someone experiences enough abuse, I think they're capacity to feel empathy could be crushed. Then they can retaliate by killing someone without remorse. The psychopath's brain has almost no activity in that area that is related to empathy.

It's funny you should mention that because every soldier and police officer are trained to kill without remorse as part of their job. As such it doesn't seem extraordinary to label them as psychopaths because that is exactly what they have been trained to be.

A soldier is trained to blindly take orders much like we train a dog to take orders. They are trained never to question orders or the chain of command otherwise it cannot operate effectively. Much like a member of a political party is told never to question the party or they will be expelled from it.

We have created a culture of psychopaths which we call organizations, religions, corporations and governments which have been taught to put the interests of the group before that of any individual(s).

On a side note it was kind of comical how the whole ISIS fiasco played out recently. Nobody wanted the taste of blood in their mouth again after the carpet bombing of millions of women and children in the last war. Then some bad guys cut off the heads of a few "white people" and all hell breaks loose. They were beheading their own on a daily basis, blowing up civilians and general mayhem but nobody really gave a damn until... a few "white guys" lost their head. Funny how that works and that there was not even the slightest scent of remorse or compassion or morality for their former actions or others but then one of their own loses a head... and it's war.
Psychopaths one and all.

Which brings us to the word of the day... complicity.
ie. :association or participation in or as if in a wrongful act.

Complicity is one of the reasons why I speak up here to let people know I will not participate in the stupidity I see happening in the world. I find it offensive and immoral and want no association with people who may find it acceptable. It should also be noted that doing nothing does not make anyone any less complicit because doing and saying nothing is an action or form of agreement in itself.

AC