The bistander thread

[Turion]

They didn't do the test. They worked on building the coil winder instead. And on some parts for me that they will bring me this weekend for my generator. My cores arrive this Thursday. Ten of them.

[bistander]

... Next Sat Greyland and the guys will shoot a video of the machine running unloaded with all 12 coils in place and show the amp draw. ...

Hi Turion,

How did the test go? Got a link to the video?

Regards,
bi

[BroMikey]

I show some pictures


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Nice work Alex. Your pictures are very small

[alexelectric]

Alex, what are you using for your core material? I've been doing research and have decided to use varnished electrical steel laminates. This will need to be square section and won't be prone to eddy currents but will be more likely to saturate. What guage wire will you be using? I'm going to use a Makita with 2,000 rpm variable speed and gear up with toothed belt.

What I am using is copper, as you can see, # 23, 256 feet, and afterwards one can go to another type of conductor and characteristics, to look for more capacitance, there are other options that can be experienced.

For the core I am for now with welding rods.

The first thing is to test with the basic elements, since it is tested with these materials, and since satisfactory results are obtained, I will go on to test with other materials, Mr. Dave who has years and experience in this, he is advancing along with his friends.

It seems simple, but it takes you time to make the coils, wiring, assemble the generator support, magnets, etc., but it is interesting to experiment, if everything turns out well, continue, and if it does not work, it is evaluated why? continues to work on improving or looking for other forms of generation, but it is very exciting to continue with the experiments, all prototypes are subject to further refinement.

[BroMikey]

It's always worth while keeping an eye on the opposition!
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[Quantum_well]

It's always worth while keeping an eye on the opposition!
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[Quantum_well]

Jumble.
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[Quantum_well]

Alex, what are you using for your core material? I've been doing research and have decided to use varnished electrical steel laminates. This will need to be square section and won't be prone to eddy currents but will be more likely to saturate. What guage wire will you be using? I'm going to use a Makita with 2,000 rpm variable speed and gear up with toothed belt.

[alexelectric]

I show some pictures


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[alexelectric]

I am going to make an attempt at replicating your work Dave on a very small scale to see what a few coils can do. This will be 100 percent documented and I will take photos and videos along the way. I currently live in a small apartment but I have some bench space for a replication. I think I have a motor and power supply that will work.

-Altrez

I can tell you how I did it,

For the 12 thread bobbin, I number each thread on each spool from 1 to 12, to put them in order.
In the winder I have two bars where in each one I incorporate 6 reels, in order of the numbering.

First bar 1 to 6
Second bar 7 to 12

I have the beginnings of each thread, I mark each of them with tape, to have the beginnings marked.

First thread 1 I
Second wire 2 I
Third wire 3 I and so on

When I start wrapping all the threads (12 threads) on the main spool, I try to make them all go in order, as far as possible.

When I finish winding I have the ends of each thread, and since I have them in order, I mark each end again with tape.

End of first thread 1 O
End of second thread 2 O
End of third thread 3 O and so on.

In this way I already have all the wires with their inputs 1 I (1 Input) and all outputs 1 O (1 Out) and so on.

In this way, in the end I avoid looking for the corresponding threads, it is one more way, it seems that Mr. Dave used colors.

It only remains at the end to make the connections, in this way it is easier for me to connect the beginning with the end, for serial connections
example 1 O (1 out) with the start of 2 I (2 Input),
2 O (2 out) with the start of 3 I (3 Input) and so on.

This is the way that enables me to make the connections, any questions, I will gladly guide you.

[alexelectric]

Here is the schematic
It can be changed according to what you want
This is the connection that gives you 130 volts, according to Mr. Dave's specifications.

It already depends on what you want, voltage ?, amps ?, you can change the configuration.

I remember that in one of the tests, I put it all in series, I had an oversight, my voltage whiplash.
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[Turion]

I think the confusion is we are talking about two different things. Quantum was talking about how coils are wired NOW and his description was correct and his drawing is correct

You were commenting on what I said about CHANGING that configuration to get lower voltage and higher amps and use a simple cap to get the capacitance that wiring in parallel and connecting in series provides and YOU are correct.

[Quantum_well]

This is how I see twelve strands, four in series then in parallel.
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[bistander]

... Now that I know we are going to run the machine at around 3,000 RPM I can start looking for what capacitor gives us neutral coils with all 12 wires in parallel I want to see what voltage I get, and how many amps. ...

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bi

[Turion]

Four strands in series and three WIRES in parallel from the SAME coil.