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  • I don’t know. I did a lot of reading and research about pulse charging li batteries. I donor remember every link I clicked in or exactly what they said. The gust of what I read us that it is ok for ME to pulse charge li batteries. Other people should do their own research and make their own decision.
    “Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.”
    —Bernhard Haisch, Astrophysicist

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    • Originally posted by bistander View Post
      ...So again, which source or reference put you on to it and what benefits do you expect and how exactly do you go about choosing and implementing the algorithm?
      bi
      Originally posted by Turion View Post
      I don’t know. I did a lot of reading and research about pulse charging li batteries. I donor remember every link I clicked in or exactly what they said. The gust of what I read us that it is ok for ME to pulse charge li batteries. Other people should do their own research and make their own decision.
      OK. You can't recall or didn't save any of the articles or references, but please tell us what benefits do you expect and how exactly do you go about choosing and implementing the algorithm?
      Thanks.
      bi

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      • I don't expect ANY benefits other than charging the battery. That's it. If you don't want to do it that way, DON'T!
        “Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.”
        —Bernhard Haisch, Astrophysicist

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        • Originally posted by Turion View Post
          I don't expect ANY benefits other than charging the battery. That's it. If you don't want to do it that way, DON'T!
          Hey, you brought it up. Now you're flustered and don't want to discuss it. Why?
          ​​​​​​So you don't expect any benefits (other than charging the battery, which can be more easily done without pulsing), still, how do you choose and implement the algorithm?
          And you still haven't addressed the extra IsquaredR loss, except that you heard it wasn't so. Can you not do the simple math and see it is real?
          bi

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          • I read several articles about pulse charging li batteries. I pointed out it can be done. If you want more information, find people who are writing articles about it and ask them. I am experimenting with it. End of story.

            is this how you prove to yourself that you are relevant? Rather than building, you know, ANYTHING and posting results?
            “Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.”
            —Bernhard Haisch, Astrophysicist

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            • Originally posted by Turion View Post
              I read several articles about pulse charging li batteries. I pointed out it can be done. If you want more information, find people who are writing articles about it and ask them. I am experimenting with it. End of story.

              is this how you prove to yourself that you are relevant? Rather than building, you know, ANYTHING and posting results?
              You say "I am experimenting with it." But you're unwilling to discuss it. OK. Why did you point it out? I mentioned why I responded. I have experience and knowledge regarding Li cells and batteries. Just this past week I balanced a 48 cell LiNMC battery in my yard tractor which has been in service for 11 years. I built (converted) it. But I don't need to prove relevancy. I suspect relevancy is your motive for posting pulse charging Li, which, I think will do more harm than good and increase associated risk.
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              • Your opinion. Some of the experts disagree.
                YEs it has to be done correctly. I agree with that.
                “Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.”
                —Bernhard Haisch, Astrophysicist

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                • Originally posted by Turion View Post
                  Your opinion. Some of the experts disagree.
                  YEs it has to be done correctly. I agree with that.
                  I'd still like to see which experts had what to say. When searching for Lithium battery charging, it is rare to see any mention of pulse charging. When searching for Lithium battery pulse charging, yes, there are hits. Not sure I saw any where pulse was used other than with fast charging. Are you fast charging? Even above 4C, most like 6 or 8C? I doubt it. So where, and whom, says there is what benefit to your situation? And how did you determine the algorithm to do it correctly? And how do you implement that?

                  I've read a number of conclusion sections of the papers available to non-members of the respective societies. And most are based off simulation. Often they claim mitigation of Lithium plating. Some speculate 5% increase life. Some claim reduced charge time. Most request further study (funds). A few, like the one which I quoted previously, saw no benefit. Several mentioned or calculated increased heat, even citing that as a reason for improved performance, chemicals often work better warmer.

                  Overall I don't see a good reason for you to use it. Especially since you claim you don't expect any benefit. Why use the distraction? But that seems to be your way: to clutter the project with useless features.

                  I saw that product you posted on the other thread. That's cute. For primary cells. Put a 99˘ product on a $1 AA cell to get that last 10% charge. You buyin' into that?
                  bi
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                  • Originally posted by Turion View Post
                    ... Maybe now bistander will build one and get it working. Wouldn't THAT be fun?
                    ...
                    What????
                    Trying to drag me into that stupid BS. No thanks. I've been watching. I try had not to interact with the OP of that thread. None of you three discussing that circuit have a clue. I certainly don't need to build it to know everything about it. So, carry on and have fun.
                    bi

                    BTW, what in the world would lead you to say a boost converter is OU? On second thought, nevermind.
                    Last edited by bistander; 08-03-2022, 05:00 AM. Reason: Added BTW

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                    • Originally posted by Turion View Post
                      I find it humorous that bistander has dumped all over the 3 Battery System for YEARS, but now that you are posting data, he has nothing to say. Wonder why?
                      oh, wait, he said he doesn’t need to build it because he knows everything about it. LOL
                      Hi Turion,
                      I'll tell you why. Your multiple battery schemes and splitting positives are all worthless waste of energy. You don't know what you're talking about, don't listen to reason or learn basic electrical, energy and physics fundamentals. You say the boost converter is overunity. You're a lost cause.
                      So I choose not to engage in a pizzing match with you over this. I'll just continue to wait for you to finally fullfil a promise to test your generator. Have your city friends made any progress?
                      bi


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