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  • nutzNvoltz
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    Originally posted by robur View Post

    Isn't middle disk suppose to be Aluminum?
    And I see it it is plastic.

    I am NOT criticizing. I point out that your middle plate that facing magnets ins't Aluminum
    Set-up VERY NICELY DONE.
    May be you should change middle sheet to Aluminum and try it again?
    .
    Hi Robur, I just replied to you're PM. I did plan on covering the middle disk on both sides with aluminum foil at some point. I wanted to first try it with just the high voltage DC. I've never built a tesla coil before so I would have figure that one out if I do continue experimenting with this rig. I have since moved on to another project but I may get back to this one at some point in the future.

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  • robur
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    I am having doubts about if diagram of magnet placement in Alexey's device is correct.
    If we place 2 disks like that with NORTH POLE UP on top and bottom disk - then Bottom disk's North pole would be facing upper disk's SOUTH poles from across the middle plate.
    As middle plate is not exactly a shield and magnets are powerful - my understanding is that they would attract each other, thus creating a drag on the motors.
    However, if they are placed like in device known as Joe Par's Centrifuge - NORTH - NORTH facing each other - they would repel and ''float'' on each other's field across the middle plate.
    I know it is not the same device.


    This is an proposition only.

    When I replicate Alexey's set-up over course of August - I will make some changes
    My be it works out may be it won't - we shall see

    Here is a short except from book Shape Power by Dan S Davidson

    7.2.2 Dynamic Pyramid ES Generation

    At one time during the 11 year sun spot cycle, the static pyramid sensor
    went dead and quit providing data. In order to find another method of
    continuing the research, the reasoning was that a moving sensor could
    possibly continue providing data. Joe built an elaborate experimental
    Extensive experiments with the centrifuge provided additional data on
    the pyramid energy bubble. Positive ions in the centrifuge would cause
    the pyramid to be drawn to the polarity of the moon.

    Negative ions in
    the centrifuge would cause the pyramid to be repelled away from the
    moon. At certain times of the year (around December 8th-15th and May
    8th-15th) the energy bubble around the pyramids in the centrifuge would
    become totally opaque to all local gravitation, electromagnetic, and
    inertial forces. When this happened, the little, one-inch-base pyramids
    would rip off the end of the centrifuge arm causing extensive damage to
    the interior of the centrifuge.

    Detailed analysis of the amount of energy
    needed to rip the pyramid free of its epoxy mounting, showed that an 8
    gram pyramid had approximately 2000 pounds of force (i.e., 113,000
    times increase in kinetic energy). It is hypothesized that the pyramid
    moves into a different time/space condition, which Joe called
    hyperspace, when the pyramid is in the alternating magnetic field.
    When the pyramid moves out of the alternating magnetic field of the
    centrifuge, the pyramid comes out of h-space with huge amounts of
    additional energy.

    The centrifuge experiments also operated the same as the static
    pyramid in that putting radio frequency sources, radioactive sources,
    magnetic sources, and ion sources inside the pyramid showed that the
    energy of the energy sources was attenuated when in the pyramid
    energy bubble.This method relies on pyramids mounted on the outside of a rotor which
    is rapidly rotated. An E-field perpendicular to the rotor is aligned with
    rotor axis. A magnetic field is aligned perpendicular to the axis of the
    rotor. Thus, when the rotor spins, the pyramids not only make and break
    setup he named the "centrifuge".

    The centrifuge "pyramid motor" is
    illustrated in figure 7.2.2-1.
    the E-field but have an alternating magnetic field at right angles to the
    E-field.

    Analysis revealed detail in regard to alignment of the magnetic field with
    the pyramids. If the magnets cover the entire width of the rotor, then the
    electrostatic field gets generated in one direction on one side of the rotor
    axis and in the opposite direction on the other side of the axis. The
    question is: would this nullify the energy generation effect or does it
    make any difference since electrons are electrons???



    JOE PARR.jpg JOE PARR'S SET-UP.jpg

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  • robur
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    Originally posted by Sputins View Post
    Good to see NutsNVolts Has had a crack at building this… Nice work.

    I agree the centre disk is meant to be Aluminium and the rotating plates are meant to be of a “bug wing” patterned plate. – I pointed out earlier that this may have something to do with the HV brush on the plate to produce transient spikes or rough square wave type effect. Maybe insulated spoke segments on these flat rotating discs might produce similar? – Or maybe the HV DV generator can produce this?

    I’ve remade certain parts on my model but progress is slow due other areas of interest and concern. – I also query why Alexey himself seems to have made little progress, except for the original so-called working prototype... – Why has he not built a second, third or fourth versions? Bigger, more impressive or released additional details…
    I still think it is worth perusing with more experimentation and research.

    Stay safe, don’t take the shot.
    1. He not build bigger perhaps because he has no money for bigger
    2. He was already bought off by those ''serious top people'' he told me about in e-mail
    3. He sees himself that this model being so hard to get to fly it is commercially enviable and possibly uncontrollable
    My work also going a bit slow. Waiting for part delivery. To use UfoPolitics Cold Energy Coil's discharge as power source for replication.

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  • Sputins
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    Good to see NutsNVolts Has had a crack at building this… Nice work.

    I agree the centre disk is meant to be Aluminium and the rotating plates are meant to be of a “bug wing” patterned plate. – I pointed out earlier that this may have something to do with the HV brush on the plate to produce transient spikes or rough square wave type effect. Maybe insulated spoke segments on these flat rotating discs might produce similar? – Or maybe the HV DV generator can produce this?

    I’ve remade certain parts on my model but progress is slow due other areas of interest and concern. – I also query why Alexey himself seems to have made little progress, except for the original so-called working prototype... – Why has he not built a second, third or fourth versions? Bigger, more impressive or released additional details…
    I still think it is worth perusing with more experimentation and research.

    Stay safe, don’t take the shot.

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  • Gambeir
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    I have to add that I've been thinking about this theory of magnetic reconnection and have my doubts.

    The information on the Covid vax involves the use of a super-paramagentic delivery system, which says that the development of a "Heisenberg Hamiltonian (in the old literature it is known as the Heisenberg-Dirac Hamiltonian)," is dependent on the scale of the particles, and which means that for the creation of a super-paramagnetic field to develop the particles of iron oxide must be nano sized in order for the development of so-called quantum magnon's to form.

    Probably butchered quantum physics so no quoting me.

    Biomedical applications of ultra small magnetic nano particles
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._Nanoparticles
    This is a good pdf with lots of visuals.


    However the development of a so called super-paramagnetic response is only part of the story. A super-paramagnetic magnon can be created using hexagonal crystals/lattice which looks like the pattern on a Japanese kagome basket. and by using a series of basket weaves rotating upon one another it could be used to create a theoretical propulsion system, and this idea is forwarded by Robin Goodfella who put together the gif and understanding of using rotating kagome lattices shown in the graphic. All I'm doing is passing on the info. A link to his reddit discussion on UFO propulsion is posted in the ARV thread along with his most recent theory which I assembled into a pdf for distribution.





    Robin Goodfella say's that he thinks a moving gravito-magneto-electic toroid acts like a smoke ring, ejecting through the center, and thereby enabling movement without changing the gravitational force. This would help to explain so-called mystery smoke rings which can be seen with an image search.

    Allen Burgess posted some images on page 4 of the ARV thread which are related to this idea.

    There is also a history of the understanding of hexagonal minerals forming the Kagome structure and the production of so-called magnon, a so-called quantum reaction, which dates back to the mid 1950's, and which I think is described as "Heisenberg Hamiltonian (in the old literature it is known as the Heisenberg-Dirac Hamiltonian)," http://phycomp.technion.ac.il/~riki/Heisenberg.html
    https://www.slideshare.net/ryutarook...kagome-magnets

    I'm no physicist of any kind, not that many of them have been too helpful deciphering UFO propulsion either, but what I think I understand is that bottom line is the formation of what amounts to a kind of mono-polar reaction, so from what I think I understand is that iron oxide nano particles when subjected to a magnetic field, say for example in the vertical plane, and which are then subjected to an ELF magnetic field, which is created by an AC field and while perpendicular to the DC or magnet's, combines to create a super-paramagnetic response. This is explained briefly with a graphic in the article from research gate cited previously: "Biomedical applications of ultra small magnetic nano particles." That would produce individual responses, whereas the Goodfella gif is a hypothetical and simplified layout for a quantum drive.

    The Alexey is set up exactly as described for creating a super-paramagnetic reaction.It's also using an aluminum plate which we know becomes a paramagnetic when a moving/motional magnetic field is passing over it.

    Lastly, having been pondering the aforementioned, it does appear to me that Vril Schumann Levitator appears to be a virtual cut out of one single kagome structure. In other words, I think that the foundations for all the aforementioned probably dates much further back and is actually displayed in the Vril Saucer Schumann Levitator design. This cut out when viewed from above forms a five point star with a hole in the middle just like one individual section of a kagome weave, and which coincidentally just happens to be the USAF Insignia up to and through the first years of the last Global War. Ya have to wonder about the nature of reality when you encounter connections at that level. I mean if you look at the USAF Insignia it even has wings on either side.
    Last edited by Gambeir; 06-17-2021, 06:13 PM.

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  • Gambeir
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    A hypothesis of why this device works is that it is "may be" using magnetic reconnecion
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_reconnection

    Magnetic reconnection is a basis for particle acceleration which could be conjectured to be utilizing the surrounding ions in the atmosphere. That may help explain why some UFO's take on water and are known to be cloaked in clouds, while at other times they appear as plasma balls or lights in the sky.

    The magnetic paint may play a role in assisting or guiding the reconnection. It's possible or even likely that the paint would need to be applied wet while using a polarized magnetic field so that when hard it would tend to have the desired polarity. However that's speculation. It would be something to think about and of course magnetic paint or metal iron oxides may have nothing to do with the described coating on the ARV.

    If for example the ARV were using magnetic reconnection as propulsion then those slanted sides with the described grey black coating would indicate that experiments with magnetic paint should also be put on a material which forms a similar slope. Where to locate that would be something to think about and experiment with. The idea is that you just want to assist the bending or direction of the particles and perhaps so that a reconnection happens more easily; provided that is what is happening.

    Magnetic sheets are of course invisible without plasma, but any magnetic sheet or tubes flowing by such a surface would of course create a magnetic field in the magnetic paint and thereby assist the adhesion of the flux tubes to a form and helping to guide the magnetic flux with the idea of creating a laminar flow.

    Alternatively; I would look into how super-paramagnetism is used in the mRNA vaccines. I have not done this yet. You need to have a clear understanding of how these vaccines are supposedly achieving a dirac mono-pole; Which although they aren't calling it a mono-pole, it is what it seems to be; so be advised of that.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaron

    I believe the polaron is being caused by a so called magneto-restriction. It could be that there is a formation of a super-paramagnetic ring forming on the Alexey. Why I couldn't say but here an applied oxide cited as iron oxides can cause a super-paramagnetic effect, probably by magneto-restriction is my guess, but that's why understanding the claimed super-paramagntism used in mRNA vaccines is probably necessary to know in greater detail.

    So we may have one, the other, or both of these effects at work in the Alexey. The Alexey may be working because of it's rather flimsy design where the lower magnets are afixed to a plate that appears rather flexible. So if you look into magnetic reconnection the first thing you see is that there should be two magnetic flux tubes with flux flowing opposite directions, and which suggests that really the upper HV plate should itself be rotating against or counter to the plate with the magnets.

    That's all I have for now.
    Last edited by Gambeir; 06-17-2021, 05:59 PM.

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  • robur
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    FYI: Tesla Coil as simple as was shown by Alexey Churnikov - generates many frequencies randomly. Perhaps that is a reason why effect is hard to obtain. Frequency should be controlled at last semi-finely.

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  • robur
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    I want to get effect that is PLUG & PLAY. That anyone could do if they get required items. That works every time and quickly.
    It might not happen. Or it might happen harder then I hope.
    But I PROMISE THIS - I will sit day and night until I make instruction so exact that anyone can follow.
    So, once obtained it can never be lost.

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  • robur
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    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post

    You are right Robur,

    He is missing an essential part, the Aluminum Plate which is charged from Tesla Coil HV...which generates the High Voltage Center E-Field...

    The success of his Device is all about a Resonance Point between ALL Fields involved...AND, I believe it is exactly a point, a tiny point -in common- between all generating components...

    Alexey found it...and it is NOT a range of "close" resonant points...BUT "A POINT"...

    Regards


    Ufopolitics
    What was he charging then? Here is no middle plate to charge. It seems to me he was charging magnetic rotors themselves.
    I sent him a private message. May be he would hope in and have a read.

    I do not wish to start another argument or flame war with anyone here. I had enough already before.
    But, I still think that Alexey's effect is too unstable and hard to obtain.

    I do not deny it exists - it does. However, the way I observe it seems that effect is very hard to obtain.
    I watched all of his videos and I messaged him myself several times.
    He told me in his reply that he will disclose full information about how tuning is done only to ''Very serious top people''
    In Russian terms, such people are people with money and power. But, sadly such people also bring non-disclosure agreements lawyers and other bad things

    If he don't show full tuning process - I honestly do not thing this direction can be replicated successfully
    I am working on an alternative, but it won't be ready to be shown until beginning of July as first I need to build milling machine and some other tools



    Anyway, he needs to add at last a flat plate.
    My alternative would have curved surface and charged with High Voltage DC from Car Ignition Coil Circuit.
    I believe you have something similar.
    A friend sent me a file last month where he describes something called Ufopolitics Cold Energy Coil.
    As it is not related to this topic I say no more.
    But you please be so kind and link me any post about it?
    If you made 1 here that is.

    Cheers
    Robur


    P.S. We see what happens with my alternative. Success or fail I will share everything without any strings or conditions.

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by robur View Post

    Isn't middle disk suppose to be Aluminum?
    And I see it it is plastic.

    I am NOT criticizing. I point out that your middle plate that facing magnets ins't Aluminum
    Set-up VERY NICELY DONE.
    May be you should change middle sheet to Aluminum and try it again?
    .
    You are right Robur,

    He is missing an essential part, the Aluminum Plate which is charged from Tesla Coil HV...which generates the High Voltage Center E-Field...

    The success of his Device is all about a Resonance Point between ALL Fields involved...AND, I believe it is exactly a point, a tiny point -in common- between all generating components...

    Alexey found it...and it is NOT a range of "close" resonant points...BUT "A POINT"...

    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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  • robur
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    Originally posted by nutzNvoltz View Post
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    OK spacecase0, I tried this. The larger lower disc is 10" diameter with 9 n42 nib magnets 1" diameter and the smaller upper disc is 8" diameter with 8 nib mags. The middle and upper/lower plates are garolite G10-FR4. The motors are old brushed RC motors and can spin the discs at about 1,000 rpm. The upper and lower plates have copper brushes mounted to them that ride on the discs. They are fed with HV DC from a 10 stage multiplier powered by a flyback transformer driven by a ZVS circuit that puts out 30kv. I first tried it with the magnets on each disc in repulsion with and without the HV DC. I hung the whole device from a digital scale and detected no weight change. Tried the whole thing over again with mags in attraction and still no change. Not sure what to do next.
    Isn't middle disk suppose to be Aluminum?
    And I see it it is plastic.

    I am NOT criticizing. I point out that your middle plate that facing magnets ins't Aluminum
    Set-up VERY NICELY DONE.
    May be you should change middle sheet to Aluminum and try it again?
    .

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  • robur
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    Nothing new from Sputins? Not tested anything yet?
    My weather is blowing from arctic again can't do a thing in my freeze box.
    Hopefully, May be better then April and fire up things on my end

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  • spacecase0
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    remember to rally pay attention to NMR. as the magnetic field is lower the frequency drops, so by the time you get to low fields like the earth's magnetic field the frequency is in the audio range. and the high fields used in the NMR scanners for humans, the frequency is up in the microwave range. so if you want the ultrasonic to interact, you need something stronger than the earth's field, but not so strong as to push the frequency beyond that of the ultrasonic you are using. that resonance appears to be the key here. so match the magnetic field to the ultrasonic frequency to get the correct effect (yes this changes with each element, so my guess is that you need to choose aluminum for your calculations).

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  • nutzNvoltz
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    Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
    ever read the US navy patents ? US10322827 is a good start point. you have the magnetic field component, now maybe try adding a powerful ultrasonic generator. I think the point to this is that it sets up NMR inside the atoms. this creates the rotating magnetic field required (the MAGVID type 2 creates this field directly on a large scale). matching the magnetic field to the ultrasonic frequency seems to be a bit hard if you don't calculate it out first. Likely why the US navy patent uses a microwave generator so that every magnetic field strength is obtained at some point so that it matches with the ultrasonic.
    Thanks for the tip spacecase0. I don't know much about ultrasonic generators. Guess I'll have to do some research on that.

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  • spacecase0
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    ever read the US navy patents ? US10322827 is a good start point. you have the magnetic field component, now maybe try adding a powerful ultrasonic generator. I think the point to this is that it sets up NMR inside the atoms. this creates the rotating magnetic field required (the MAGVID type 2 creates this field directly on a large scale). matching the magnetic field to the ultrasonic frequency seems to be a bit hard if you don't calculate it out first. Likely why the US navy patent uses a microwave generator so that every magnetic field strength is obtained at some point so that it matches with the ultrasonic.

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