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  • Originally posted by Turion View Post
    To post some info from the book that I believe is extremely pertinent.... in 1957 a UFO followed a B-47 loaded with electronic monitoring equipment for over 1 1/2 hours. During that time the B-47 crew was able to USE that equipment to determine that the UFO was emitting powerful bursts of microwave radiation in a very narrow range:
    Frequency 2295-3000 Megacycles per second
    Pulse width: 2.0 microseconds
    Pulse frequency: 600 cycles per second
    Sweep rate: 4 rpm
    Polarity: Vertical

    Further info from "Dynamic Nuclear Orientation" by C. D. Jeffries 1963 as applied by Dr. Alzofon.. (CAPITALIZATION OF WORDS is mine)

    "the method of dynamic nuclear orientation is easy to state. A CONSTANT magnetic field is imposed on a specimen of ferromagnetic material, causing the electrons of the atoms to precess about the direction of the field with a characteristic (Larmor) frequency. An OSCILLATING magnetic field which varies at the Larmor frequency is then applied to the specimen at RIGHT ANGLES, causing the electrons to tip over and become oriented. To preserve the angular momentum of the specimen, the nuclei must ALSO tip over and become oriented".

    The "oscillating magnetic field" was supplied by square-wave pulses of microwave radiation in the vicinity of 3000 Mhz.
    In Dr. Alzofon's words... "rapid cycling of nuclear orientation acts like a pump to draw energy out of the gravitational force in the vacinity of the vehicle.

    That's it in a nutshell.
    Do you see the similarities?

    Pages 100-106 in David Alzofon's book about his dad's (Dr. Fredrick Alzofon's) work should be REQUIRED reading for anyone even THINKING about experiments in gravity.
    Thank you. I have to think on this for a while: See if I have this right or not?

    I do see the similarities and your post helps greatly to make this slightly less convoluted but on the whole it would be better if we could make this explanation less likely to require an interpreter of nuclear physics. If nuclear spin theory is correct then it is probable that this is an accurate assessment of cause and effect and if so it seems testable with the available data.

    "A Constant magnetic field is imposed on a ferromagnetic material"
    The Alexey is using a paramagnetic material (*Aluminum) and may be creating a quasi~ferromagnetic effect as the "constant magnetic field" rotates beneath it.

    "The oscillating magnetic field supplied by square wave pulsed microwave radiation in the vicinity of 3000 Mhz"
    Evidently the paramagnetic effect can produce this pulsed magnetic oscillation and perpendicular to the charged aluminum plate, and causing the whole to fall in to a NMR.
    Last edited by Gambeir; 05-30-2020, 04:30 PM.
    "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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    • Originally posted by Turion View Post
      To post some info from the book that I believe is extremely pertinent.... in 1957 a UFO followed a B-47 loaded with electronic monitoring equipment for over 1 1/2 hours. During that time the B-47 crew was able to USE that equipment to determine that the UFO was emitting powerful bursts of microwave radiation in a very narrow range:
      Frequency 2295-3000 Megacycles per second
      Pulse width: 2.0 microseconds
      Pulse frequency: 600 cycles per second
      Sweep rate: 4 rpm
      Polarity: Vertical

      Further info from "Dynamic Nuclear Orientation" by C. D. Jeffries 1963 as applied by Dr. Alzofon.. (CAPITALIZATION OF WORDS is mine)

      "the method of dynamic nuclear orientation is easy to state. A CONSTANT magnetic field is imposed on a specimen of ferromagnetic material, causing the electrons of the atoms to precess about the direction of the field with a characteristic (Larmor) frequency. An OSCILLATING magnetic field which varies at the Larmor frequency is then applied to the specimen at RIGHT ANGLES, causing the electrons to tip over and become oriented. To preserve the angular momentum of the specimen, the nuclei must ALSO tip over and become oriented".

      The "oscillating magnetic field" was supplied by square-wave pulses of microwave radiation in the vicinity of 3000 Mhz.
      In Dr. Alzofon's words... "rapid cycling of nuclear orientation acts like a pump to draw energy out of the gravitational force in the vacinity of the vehicle.

      That's it in a nutshell.
      Do you see the similarities?

      Pages 100-106 in David Alzofon's book about his dad's (Dr. Fredrick Alzofon's) work should be REQUIRED reading for anyone even THINKING about experiments in gravity.
      This appears similar.

      A dipolar force field propulsion system
      https://patents.google.com/patent/US4663932A/en

      See: "Nature of excited states.
      "The method of excitation can be from a source of ultraviolet radiation as from a lamp or laser having a photon energy equal to Planck's constant (h) times the frequency,"

      "the inventor of the present application published an article entitled "Electromagnetic Propulsion Without Ionization" which appeared in the AIAA/SAE/ASME 16th Joint Propulsion Conference which was held on June 13, 1980 to July 2, 1980 in Hartford, Conn. The paper presented at the above-described 16th Joint Propulsion Conference disclosed the concept of electromagnetic propulsion without ionization. Specifically, the paper disclosed that when an alternating electric field is applied to a polarized or polarizable material, the dipole of the material can be made to rotate at high frequency. If an alternating and synchronized magnetic field is supplied at right angles to the electric field, a Lorentz force is generated which propels the dielectric fluid without the necessity for ionization and the consequential energy losses arising from the ionization process. The thrust so generated is proportional to the polarization, the frequency of the dipole rotation and the magnetic field strength."
      "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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      • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
        Hello Everybody!!

        ..Long Time No See!!

        Here is the latest video from Alexey Chekurkov...obviously He has done some improvements, same prototype body, though.
        Video is in pretty High Def...I see no strings attached...

        Enjoy it




        Ufopolitics
        Yeah I’ve seen Alexey’s latest flier video when it was first posted – Its either a very well done fake, or convincingly real?

        My main concern with the video is that as he touches the flier, he seems to touch the middle AC plate, or connected parts. Now he wouldn’t feel much or anything from that HF AC voltage but his body would affect the Tesla Coil’s output frequency (top capacitance) and as such affect the device? – IDK? But the Slayer circuit self-compensates to a degree?

        I have dug out my build from its storage box and have begun re-doing some of its parts. My HV DC supply is likely too over powered, so I might soon redo part of it to produce a more proportional HV DC, to the Tesla Coil supply and less arcing. Say only 400 to 800V AC that is then rectified by the on-board voltage multiplier.

        I’m currently redoing the HV DC brushes that contact the rotating discs… rather than a sprung stainless steel wire contact, which tends to score the Al plates, I’ll try softer brushes, like on a photocopier machine or a small brass strip…

        I think the “bug-wing” rotating plates are actually part of the HV DC, make and break circuit, being that as the plate rotates, the “lumps and bumps” on said rotating plate cause the DC supply (brushes) to produce a messy square wave of sorts plus untold transients. The rotation speed of the discs setting the average make/break frequency, (sort of). And if we understand about DC impulses it might part of the key. Hence perhaps a little oversite of having too high a DC voltage which produces too much arcing and therefore not desirable.

        S.

        "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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          Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
          one issue happening here is that there are likely a few ways to get past gravity.
          if ideas I am using are correct,
          you can shield from gravity,
          or you can just make yourself move the opposite direction from gravity.
          the device in this thread likely does some of each.

          if you want to create thrust without an opposite reaction,
          you can use the electrostatic lifter. They work, but not very efficiently.
          the other lost bit of information is that there are 2 things we see as voltage, one is electrostatic, and the other is induced by a moving magnetic field (like in a generator). They are not the same, but each does show up as voltage.
          so, the trick to move is to set up the same asymmetrical field shape that they electrostatic lifter has, but do it with a moving magnetic field.
          this leaves you building something very close to Alexey Chekurkovís Flying Discs. only change would be that you want the top disk smaller and the bottom disk larger. and you likely would not need the electrostatic DC or AC voltage or the ultrasonic.
          it is very possible that the electrostatic voltages they way he has them changes the field from the equal disk size to being asymmetrical as needed.
          OK spacecase0, I tried this. The larger lower disc is 10" diameter with 9 n42 nib magnets 1" diameter and the smaller upper disc is 8" diameter with 8 nib mags. The middle and upper/lower plates are garolite G10-FR4. The motors are old brushed RC motors and can spin the discs at about 1,000 rpm. The upper and lower plates have copper brushes mounted to them that ride on the discs. They are fed with HV DC from a 10 stage multiplier powered by a flyback transformer driven by a ZVS circuit that puts out 30kv. I first tried it with the magnets on each disc in repulsion with and without the HV DC. I hung the whole device from a digital scale and detected no weight change. Tried the whole thing over again with mags in attraction and still no change. Not sure what to do next.

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          • ever read the US navy patents ? US10322827 is a good start point. you have the magnetic field component, now maybe try adding a powerful ultrasonic generator. I think the point to this is that it sets up NMR inside the atoms. this creates the rotating magnetic field required (the MAGVID type 2 creates this field directly on a large scale). matching the magnetic field to the ultrasonic frequency seems to be a bit hard if you don't calculate it out first. Likely why the US navy patent uses a microwave generator so that every magnetic field strength is obtained at some point so that it matches with the ultrasonic.

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            • Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
              ever read the US navy patents ? US10322827 is a good start point. you have the magnetic field component, now maybe try adding a powerful ultrasonic generator. I think the point to this is that it sets up NMR inside the atoms. this creates the rotating magnetic field required (the MAGVID type 2 creates this field directly on a large scale). matching the magnetic field to the ultrasonic frequency seems to be a bit hard if you don't calculate it out first. Likely why the US navy patent uses a microwave generator so that every magnetic field strength is obtained at some point so that it matches with the ultrasonic.
              Thanks for the tip spacecase0. I don't know much about ultrasonic generators. Guess I'll have to do some research on that.

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              • remember to rally pay attention to NMR. as the magnetic field is lower the frequency drops, so by the time you get to low fields like the earth's magnetic field the frequency is in the audio range. and the high fields used in the NMR scanners for humans, the frequency is up in the microwave range. so if you want the ultrasonic to interact, you need something stronger than the earth's field, but not so strong as to push the frequency beyond that of the ultrasonic you are using. that resonance appears to be the key here. so match the magnetic field to the ultrasonic frequency to get the correct effect (yes this changes with each element, so my guess is that you need to choose aluminum for your calculations).

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