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My Attempts at UNLOCKING Johann Bessler MT 138 Secrets

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  • My Attempts at UNLOCKING Johann Bessler MT 138 Secrets

    Hello everyone, i've done a number of simulations on the toys from the toy page. They seem to me they all got 1 thing in common, and that is their ability to fold and unfold, one could see this as a change in volume.

    I explain in this last video a bit more of what my impressions are to this moment:
    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_XVDX-pcGI[/VIDEO]

    Also this is the playlist for this series where you will find lots simulations and where you can keep track of the series:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...h_LlGcgLbD1YuL

    I am going to continue to simulate and try to make some interactions between these "devices". If you have ideas about what goes where let me know!

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    hi, thx for the explanation, i'll have to watch it a few times to understand exactly what you are saying. I'm a bit tired right now...so please don't remove the video just yet!

    as far as the simulation goes, maybe, i'm still a noob at trying to simulate stuff. I did some scissor mechanism simulation, they are very tedious. Sometimes it's easier to actually build the damn stuff then to simulate it )

    One thing i find interesting about scissors is that if you "axle" them and you have one weight on top and one at the bottom, same weight they will stay like that, and if the scissors are not crappy it takes little effort to get them either further from the center or closer at the same time.

    it might be useful if you can show me the window mechanism, at least some product pictures.


    Mind boggling how this guy was able to make something supposily so simple and so useful and 300 years later we still bang our heads to the walls trying to figure it out.

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    • #3
      Hello, it's been a long time, had to take a break cause my head was getting bigger and bigger and i couldn't take it anymore )

      Anyway, this are my first trials with that type of hinges. Work in progress but hopefully i will get there.

      There is something definitely with this types of linkages, they are the key. There is a way to use them to fold and unfold the arms and get the desired effect.

      This is the video:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyu72gMhNkQ

      and also this is another experiment with a bit of a different design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyu72gMhNkQ

      PS: i think the best clues are in the description of mt 24 and mt 25 part 10 not part 10bis (the videos) i describe a bit more of that

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TheVisitorV View Post
        Hello everyone, i've done a number of simulations on the toys from the toy page. They seem to me they all got 1 thing in common, and that is their ability to fold and unfold, one could see this as a change in volume.

        I explain in this last video a bit more of what my impressions are to this moment:
        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_XVDX-pcGI[/VIDEO]

        Also this is the playlist for this series where you will find lots simulations and where you can keep track of the series:
        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...h_LlGcgLbD1YuL

        I am going to continue to simulate and try to make some interactions between these "devices". If you have ideas about what goes where let me know!

        I wish I had time to devote to this in greater detail. I would offer that listening to someone like Ken Wheeler talk about what defines gravity as a ruff form of guidance because I don't think Bessler thought like most people about mechanical systems. He seems to have thought in terms of volume, space, rotation, and vectors.

        I've looked a little bit at John Collins blogspot whose been working on this for the last half century. I've seen Peter Lindemann's PDF as well.
        https://johncollinsnews.blogspot.com/2018/
        BesslerWheel.com :: View topic - peter lindemann's mechanical engine design [ Guest ]
        http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images...cal_Engine.pdf

        Just to make a comment on Bessler in general; the thing that strikes me is that what you've described as a change in volume is, to my mind, the correct way to approach this problem of inducing mechanical energy. In other words, when you apply changes such as a change of volume you're changing the applied physics from that of a relatively static mechanical model to that of a dynamical mechanical model. One wherein it's likely that through the variance of a dynamical model a sustainable power system is most likely to be created.


        In the attached video Ken Wheeler points out weight is a malleable measure of mass. The same principles that Ken talks about effecting mass and weight in this video can largely be applied to mechanical systems. I think it's worth watching for that reason.
        Fallacy of Gravity & Weight. Everything is electrical
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyKHF5KdWVA

        This video is perhaps more specific to Bessler in general. Something to think about in this video is what I'm thinking. In absorbing energy this rotational device could act as temporary flywheel storage system. A subsequent mechanically activated energy input system at the proper time of rotation in say re-creating something similar to the Bessler Wheel.
        EPAR Technology Group: Project Lagiewka Bumper small test
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDiWFqM94gM
        Last edited by Gambeir; 11-26-2018, 07:46 AM.
        "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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        • #5
          thank you for the input guys, i'll try to incorporate it in the future models, coming soon hopefully.

          Got a new simulation on a different principle than in part 10
          you can ckeck it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xz9HBkO2wM

          this one is quite interesting, i've not finished the complete model, had some issues and bugs, but i think it's a step in the right direction.

          more coming soon!

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