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  • Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
    Not entirely sure our telepathic connection is without static but I take the point that I needed to restate that business about not knowing what a magnet is.

    Laniakea Supercluster


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laniakea_Supercluster

    Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
    Point is a magnet "HAS" no field itself, the so-called "magnetic field" "OF" a magnet is not OF the magnet, rather the MEDIUM ITSELF, ie the goddamn Ether.

    @13:23 to 13:27 Hexagon stands out


    One hypothesis, developed at Oxford University, is that the hexagon forms where
    there is a steep latitudinal gradient in the speed of the atmospheric winds in Saturn's atmosphere.



    Al

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    • I was just about to accuse you of speaking in convoluted dielectric divergence when, suddenly I realized, no it's this damn computer monitor, and the reason is that I kept looking and looking for this blasted Staturian Hexagonal Devil's Mark but couldn't see one. Finally I happened to see that there is a faint hexagon and so now it's making a lot more sense.

      Just to reassure you, I think Ken is entirely correct and that the magnet is the proof that the Aether is an in~coherent dielectric medium. Just as light is incoherent and made coherent by passing through a ruby, so too does a magnet make coherent the dielectric medium which passes through it. I think it's manifest and irrefutable. A magnets organization of crystalline facets is the means through which the dielectric is transformed, and in the case of a magnet it is an organized focusing of the dielectric medium which produces the magnetic field.

      I'm just glad you kept with it. Why haven't I noticed this before? Did I just not connect up the meaning; which is even more disturbing?

      I have to say this in support of Ken Wheeler: If we had to rely on the experts to explain this in meaningful comprehension that anyone can understand, which you would logically think would be a hallmark of intellect but evidently isn't so far as the Nobel Prize Committee is concerned, then the entire human race would go extinct twice over before a single Nobel Prize winner would succeed. Just go to the Wikipedia link and read what a Nobel Laureate has to say. Go to the section on "Quantum vacuum." Remember this guy is talking about the same thing Ken is. I challenge any novice to know that the subjects are one and the same without help.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories

      I keep saying these people are frauds and hustlers and the more I understand the clearer it becomes that is exactly what they are.
      Last edited by Gambeir; 10-02-2018, 06:15 PM.
      "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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      • Our future is closing in faster than people know despite being told over and over what the plans are. Everything is your fault ya know and the PTB solutions are not ones you or I would choose but they are telling us what they plan. For that reason we have to get a grip on the technology while it is still possible to do so.

        Now I'm not sure this is exactly right but it has some hints in it.

        Last edited by Gambeir; 10-02-2018, 11:14 PM.
        "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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        • Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
          I keep saying
          these people are frauds and
          hustlers and
          the more I understand
          the clearer it becomes that is exactly
          what they are.

          clan - a group of close-knit and interrelated families - Nobel Prize Committee Bias - IN PDF



          Al
          Last edited by aljhoa; 10-03-2018, 04:02 AM.

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          • Isn't it interesting that the interior shots of the space craft in 2001 have the crew shown coming and going while walking inside a hexagonal beehive shaped tube?
            In fact the shots use brightly colored space suits such a Red, Gold/Yellow, Silver, and Blue through the film.

            https://cdn.sfstation.com/wp-content...rick_main2.gif

            https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content...ssey.jpg?w=680

            http://linkandtag.com/wp-content/upl...03/2001hed.jpg

            https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ca/5e...46160cdbda.jpg

            https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JNSEZYtiT...1+silver+3.jpg

            And of course there is a moon base
            https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ymTVMQ4_T...1+silver+5.PNG
            Last edited by Gambeir; 10-03-2018, 09:40 PM.
            "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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            • Here's a little something you're probably not familiar with and one which you might be depending on your taste and possibly how old you are. Lets start with the later of the two.

              It's now 1953 and the Martian Invaders looked like this.


              The Martian's use an electric eye to scout out locations.
              https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nq0PXMxF0...ds+screen2.jpg

              Fast forward to the 2002 edition of Unitel's 185 page book on Quantum Electromagnetic Propulsion
              https://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/UNITEL_15.pdf


              http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/UNITEL_1.pdf

              "Physicists say it doesn’t matter if these photons are 10 feet apart or 10 billion light-years apart. When you change the electrical field vector of one, the other one will change to match it exactly. If you move it 10 degrees, the other photon will move its field vector 10 degrees. So you have this "communication" going on between photons even though they are separated by a very large distance. And this communication is instantaneous. It's billions of times faster than the speed-of-light."
              http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/UNITEL_3.pdf

              Interview with Larry Maurer: The CEO of Unitel Aerospace.
              Now deceased. Larry passed away in 2011.
              http://www.americanantigravity.com/f...-Interview.pdf
              Last edited by Gambeir; 10-03-2018, 09:59 PM.
              "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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              • James Cox inertial propulsion

                I found an interesesting interview with James Cox inventor of an antigravity system ;he talking about his experiments James E. Cox on Inertial Propulsion

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                • Originally posted by sinergicus View Post
                  I found an interesesting interview with James Cox inventor of an antigravity system ;he talking about his experiments James E. Cox on Inertial Propulsion
                  Good Job~

                  Yes, this is very interesting and thanks for posting that. I'm sure others are also going to find this interesting. I'm only a few minutes in to it right now but I think this is going to be helpful.
                  Sinergicus, I took the liberty of reposting this because of what James says at around the 37:30 mark; appears to be a precise description of what is taking place in the Alexy Cherkurkov device.

                  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...cations-3.html
                  Last edited by Gambeir; 10-05-2018, 12:57 AM.
                  "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                  • I'm going to suggest we discuss the Aether/counter space here to keep the Alexey thread clear for replication information.

                    We are closing in on understanding basic principles behind these machines but those principles are not officially recognized and are denied by claiming to have been discredited and disproven and this comes down to understanding counter space as the Aether.


                    In the minds of well meaning and highly educated people this all seems absurd. They have the tests and they have the math to prove the tests and to them the entire Einsteinian outlay is a proven fact of reality. What they don't have is an education in evil incarnate, what they don't have is experience dealing with incarnate evil, what they don't have is an education in police science and so they have no understanding how their ideas could be wrong even though they have all this supposed evidence saying it's right.

                    It is inconceivable to these people how mathematical poofs could be right and still describe a wrong concept.

                    Honestly how do these people think what they think? Does a detective assume evidence provided by a suspect in a murder case is telling the truth; Is it rational to think that the material evidence or alibi a prime suspect provides is truthful or even real? Christ sakes can you get any dumber? Now of course a detective expects that evidence might be manufactured evidence just like any other right minded person might also conclude. Who has kids and not had this experience? Good God~

                    From the get go, there a fundamental logical problems with the entire chain of reasoning used to arrive at the conclusions main stream physics has been operating with for about 100 years: Couldn't possibly be because some entity wants to hid something right? Like say the military industrialists and their proxy stooge security services which Eisenhower warned all of us about.

                    You have to be completely mind controlled if you believe that flying saucers are from another world, that black triangles are from another world, though now it might be true. They might be making them on Mars or the Dark Side of the Moon because making a factory there would be feasible and a lot more sensible too.

                    So ya know, you have a choice, you can believe published hooey or you can go find the truth for yourself. The place to start is with Henry Stevens who explains not only how and why the theories of Tesla and others had to be discredited, and because of flying saucer antigravity technology, but also how they did it and what's wrong with it, as well as giving a wonderful brief synopsis of what the Aether is. http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Stevens.pdf

                    Hitlers Flying Saucers
                    https://archive.org/details/HenrySte...aucers/page/n0
                    Last edited by Gambeir; 10-08-2018, 12:17 AM.
                    "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                    • Why don't we have any aliens landing and saying hi? Why wasn't Unitel's quantum light propulsion noticed? There are a lot of why's laying about for the investigator to examine.

                      The reason Unitel's ideas weren't adopted is because, one, light won't work because it's not fast enough nor was it needed when it was conceived. A better and real solution had already been achieved and was already a part of secret history tucked away in the knowledge base of what today is a militarized alternative civilization. Aliens, whom we can be positive do exist some where, aren't showing up here because, in case you haven't noticed, they are the ones needing rescue from us. Not the other way round.

                      Every human civilization has been built on exploitation of the lower masses using slavery and murder and mind control. Mass murder is disguised as war with the purpose of liberating debt holders from debts and to profit from theft, and it's implemented using mind control techniques. Just look at the US vers Chinese debt holders and the rise in war making propaganda out of the stooge main stream media. Those evil Chinese *****s huh? Lol~ Yea right. How accidental do you honestly think it is now, suddenly out of the blue, its Amazon, Google, and others all screaming about a supposed secret chip planted in computers by who? Oh yes by those Chinese...yea right and if you believe that you will believe anything.

                      Given the existing state of world governments it is naive to think that any exploitable alien life would be treated in any way different than our own and likely much worse.

                      If that were not the case alien species would be known right now. We don't know them because the civilization which feeds off us is right now engaged in doing the same old same old. It's trying to steal everything not nailed down, ours specifically, as well as finding and torturing out all information that any alien might hold in their brain, and then it's denying any physical mass contact using the weapons it has developed as a result of all these policies as well as the brilliance of our own species. All the while it's constructing a story line about evil aliens. Maybe they are evil but if so it's probably not accidental.

                      Where ever aliens may be, it is unlikely the so-called foreign policy extended to other nations on this plant wouldn't be the standard foreign policy extended to an alien species on another world, and given that fact, how then can we expect that any alien life would conceive that our own species and planet needs rescue as much as they themselves almost certainly do? Given those truths, how then is it rational to think aliens would even be trying to help us instead of destroying us, or wishing they could, how logical are these ideas about alien rescue and or evil aliens? Of course they aren't showing up, but they are indeed out there, count on it. Let's just hope that half the Galaxy doesn't already wish we were all dead because of the kind of people we have allowed to rule our own world. That my friends is why we need to figure this out.
                      Last edited by Gambeir; 10-08-2018, 12:36 AM.
                      "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                      • Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                        "Lift" = ∆Psuper-fluid
                        Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
                        Thirdly, aljhoa correctly directs our attention to super-fluidity and the statement by TheoriaApophasis (Ken Wheeler). Which like all of Ken's stuff is filled with humor.
                        See Figure 11 on page 12 of NASA/TMó2006-214390

                        and YT Is a Spinning Gyroscope Weightless?


                        Al
                        Last edited by aljhoa; 10-08-2018, 04:40 PM.

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                        • I just found this interesting site : UFO unidentified flying object Electrogravitics saucer, Space Technology, Suppressed Inventions, MUFON

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                          • Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
                            See Figure 11 on page 12 of NASA/TM—2006-214390

                            and YT Is a Spinning Gyroscope Weightless?

                            Al
                            Oh My, we really have decided to open a can of worms this AM haven't we aljhoa? Lol~ OK, well all in all, a really interesting combination and great little PDF from NASA. There are a number of tangentially related issues to the entire issue of what transpires in a spinning mass. However, this so called experiment kind of reminds me of trying to prove an airplane isn't propelled through the atmosphere by attaching a toy propeller to a stick and running around in circles. The spurious comments on the video are as golden as they are instructive. I feel sorry for the poor kid who made it but at least he does manage to demonstrate a mechanical ability.

                            Anyways~ So yea, spinning mass and the crap it does are all worth close study; none of which I can claim to have done myself.

                            So back to running around in circles with a propeller on a stick. You can't prove anything without a complete machine. Whether or not the Otis Carr OCX-X1 would work isn't as important as the concepts behind it because our technology is now capable doing this at the atomic level. Something which was probably possible for Otis as well but that's neither here nor there, and maybe Otis knew a lot more than I do, and maybe there's more than meets the eye going on if and when someone ever gets round to replicating that machine. The macro and the micro only go so far and who knows what may be with a machine replicating the micro at a macro scale.

                            In the OCX-X1 you have some primary ideas going on that are contained in the Jerry Bayles paper on vectored centrifugal force and you also have the probably all important ideas forwarded by James Cox, which include Coriolis force. The whole idea here is to reverse the natural gravitational spin vector which takes place in matter due to the same forces.

                            Speculation;
                            In the Alexey we have all the natural forces taking place which we think are responsible for creating gravity but applied in creative way such that the surrounding space is changed to lower the speed of light. In the Alexey machine there is a replicated "non-uniform" electro-magnetic field, it is a divided DC electromagnetic field surrounding a high frequency alternating current. This rotating electro-magnetic DC field creates an electromagnetic coriolis force which then acts upon the alternating current high voltage plate. This is akin to what takes place in the Otis OCX-X1 when the so-called Ultrons are acted upon in their spin states as they themselves orbit on another spinning plate. So in the OTC-X1, the "non-uniform" electromagnetic energy field is replaced by a physical electric magnetic actuators and which then act directly upon spinning Ultrons; n'est-ce pas?

                            In the Alexey the HV AC plate is being acted upon by an electromagnetic Coriolis force brought about by the underlying electrically charged spinning magnetic plate which is carrying this DC field perpendicular to the AC HV field in a non-uniform way via a magnetic field and because it is in rotation that non-uniform field expands.

                            At some point the non-uniform electromagnetic DC field acts upon the atomic spin states of the HF AC plate. It may act only upon the AC Current or both the current and the mass of the AC plate. I don't know which or if it's all. I'm not qualified sufficiently to know which is most likely but it is acting upon some part of that mass of the AC HF plate.

                            As the spin of the magnetic plate is DC charged in a vertical spin field the surrounding atmosphere is inducted to a polarized ionization state. A plasma hue should begin to appear as energy is taken in to the surrounding space around the machine.

                            Inside this bubble the speed of light has been changed. This is explained by John St. Clare in his patents; someone who is competent enough to do that and which is where I have to refer people to since that is far outside my own capability. Nevertheless, the thing to be observed is that the whole Alexey apparatus is essentially an artificial recreation of the space time of Earth itself.

                            Therefore, the critical features are the effects of an electromagnetic Coriolis force acting upon a mass. Critical because according to Counter Spacial Theory, a non uniform and incoherent energy field comprised of ubber high speed energy acts upon mass (Earth) and mass is then induced by the Coriolis force to vector inwards upon itself creating gravity. Probably a little more complex but the gist of the idea is what is important.

                            Extrapolation then says that a work around to gravity is to gain a frequency in tune with those upper high speed energies which act upon mass (Earth), and by doing so one then effectively becomes part of that non uniform energy field, ie counter space. The closer one becomes with this frequency the less mass they should have, and because this counter spacial energy is incoherent there is no vector needed, you simply have to get close enough to it's speed to enjoy the benefits.

                            Now obviously observation of physical craft such as Black Triangles shows that possibility, or that there is a correlation to the concept, so whether or not mass is being lost or whether or not light speed is being slowed is an entirely academic issue for physics to sort out once they do discover reality.

                            Ya know, it's taken a long time but once you have this idea about "Radiant Energy" being counter space and being an energy which is just bouncing all over at billions of times the speed of light, then you begin to gather how things actually work and it begins to come in to focus and you begin to see how things could be if only it were more widely understood. It isn't radiant energy which I see, it's an incoherent energy, just like a pond isn't a river, or light isn't a laser, it's a field of power reverberating throughout the cosmos which is akin to a fluid which behaves as a solid because it's moving at billion and billions and billions of times the speed of light. Think Carl Sagan OK? Billions~
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                            "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                            • In the Alexey the HV AC plate is being acted upon by an electromagnetic Coriolis force brought about by the underlying electrically charged spinning magnetic plate which is carrying this DC field perpendicular to the AC HV field in a non-uniform way via a magnetic field and because it is in rotation that non-uniform field expands.

                              One might think that the reason the Alexey levitates is due to the expansion of the non-uniform electromagnetic field induced by the rotation of the magnetic plate, and what really takes place is that the inducted ionized air becomes a part of the the total machine in the sense that the mass of ionized air molecules are themselves having their spin states acted upon by the Coriolis force of the rotating expanding electromagnetic field.
                              Last edited by Gambeir; 10-08-2018, 08:22 PM.
                              "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                              • It's going be a cool thing for another generation to look back on this stuff but I'm just sure they are going see all of us as a bunch of gullible idiots. At least we ourselves now have a better understanding thanks to the Alexey machine. I think you're gonna find sinergicus that the ideas in most of these are not workable because the ideas behind them aren't based on a true understanding of the energies which activate matter because really that's what counter space does. I think that as we learn more we will see that a lot of these have workable parts and might work in the atmosphere but not in space, or that they have part of it right but are missing other parts.

                                I've seen that site before and the real problem is not knowing what works. Well we now know what works and we can now begin to sort it all out.
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