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  • Originally posted by spacecase0 View Post
    I remember when anything that flys was either way to hard or very pricy.
    new technology is making flying things quite easy to build or buy.
    so they had to do something about it...
    there was a reason that they blocked the anti gravity tech in the first place. they don't want things like fences being obsolete. imagine boarders not mattering anymore. what kind of global control can you have in that sort of world ?
    Well I guess there's been some upside to the last 6 decades. It hasn't been a total wash I guess. You're right, there's a lot of off the shelf material that we can use.

    I have to say that I really love Ken's video. It's so funny and also so insightful as well as brilliant. Ken has over 1500 video's. I've only watched a very select few. I have a great deal to learn. I'm sure that what I think I understand is gravely in error, but hopefully not so much as to invalidate ideas for experimental tests. Nobody should think I've got any more grip on this they themselves do, and probably less to tell the truth. So now we have a lot of material and some solid theory from which to work from: Don't say lenz's law, don't say eddy current, because a human skydiving isn't falling through a copper pipe, and if you've ever skydived, and I have, you know this is nothing like you imagined it would be like.

    Everything in this thread has it's place but it's not likely that all are parts to any one single machine or device. Like any technology, gravity control evolved from a conceptual primitive experimental test platform, and progressed and evolved as capabilities in technological expertise in manufacturing allowed new and enabling materials to be produced. Hopefully what will come out of this is are flying shoes, or at least home spun flying surfboards, backpacks and go karts. I hope there's enough material in the thread to seriously begin fiddling with ideas. Nobody is asking you for a donation or a "Go Fund Me." All that's required is to admit that what was taught to you purposefully, and ultimately knowingly, was done with the intent of deception and mind control. All you have to really do is to admit that in order to begin seeing the reality.

    It takes somebody who has a unique perspective to look at the dropping of a magnet down a copper tube to see what it is really demonstrating. I've never seen anyone else ever notice what Ken Wheeler did about that so~called demonstration of eddy currents (*don't say eddy currents because ya know, that's not right, and ken's right about that too). Now I don't want to come across like Mr. Knowitall, but I also want people to realize what Ken is trying to show us. So about Ken's video; an analogy might be that that magnet represents a body falling through the atmosphere, say a skydiver, and which is therefore falling down through the magnetic field of earth. Right hand rule, right hand rule people~ Now having myself done this I can tell you that there's a reason people skydive. It's not what you think it will be when you do your first jump. People skydive not to float down on a parachute but to sense what freedom is. I'm hoping another generation might live to enjoy this as a matter of daily life.

    I really love the way Ken presents this. I'm sure he didn't intend it to be funny but I found it hysterical and brilliant.
    Last edited by Gambeir; 09-08-2018, 05:56 PM.
    "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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    • * Note; if you don't see the video or images copy and paste the link I guess.
      Looks like the issues have been repaired.

      Don't say Lenz's Law, Don't say Eddy Current; gravity doesn't exist. Gravity is not an autonomous field modality.
      Last edited by Gambeir; 09-08-2018, 05:57 PM.
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      • Thought you all might enjoy this.

        Wonder-Stories-November-1931
        HD Image Link.
        https://pulpcovers.com/wp-content/up...ember-1931.jpg

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._Schuyler_Miller

        Miller's's novelette "Tetrahedra of Space" was the cover story in the November 1931 Wonder Stories. Biography Number 9 at the link.
        https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Expedition_to_Earth

        Pulpcovers.com link with CBR download link at bottom underneath the cover art.
        https://pulpcovers.com/?s=Tetrahedra+of+Space





        Schuyler Miller.1930.
        Last edited by Gambeir; 09-08-2018, 06:38 PM.
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        • What ya think?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JrkOfqm6eY&t=1903s
          "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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          • Originally posted by Sputins View Post
            Thanks Sputins!

            As always a great material!

            How about his hovering video test with the Apparatus?

            [VIDEO]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1JeeaZlYonc[/VIDEO]

            and on below video he is flying it inside his house...you could skip to 22:00 to see it directly.

            [VIDEO]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VBrx4O10XkI[/VIDEO]

            Also stivep translation...I must watch later...

            [VIDEO]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-M55XP3D4A#[/VIDEO]

            Interesting...


            Thanks


            Ufopolitics
            Last edited by Ufopolitics; 09-11-2018, 03:04 PM.
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            • Hurray! Great find, a great day ~

              There's plenty of people here on this site who should have the material and skill to replicate this set up fairly quickly, which is what I hope will take place.
              Just now looking at the video. Looks 100% real to me. At first glance I say it makes sense (galactic jet). This is what Ken Wheeler says and
              refers to a galactic jet. The magnets have the dielectric plane. It makes sense.

              Going to have to leave the details up to you people to work out.
              Interesting; some of the first model helicopters were also tethered to a power cord.

              JFM-Jenseitsflugmaschine


              Last edited by Gambeir; 09-11-2018, 06:15 PM.
              "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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              • Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
                I think there's plenty of people here on this site who should have the material and skill to replicate this set up fairly quickly, which is what I hope will take place.
                Yes, DEFINITIVELY and absolutely agree with you Gambeir!

                I am one who really want to replicate it!

                What I highly recommend is to download all ALEX videos...he said YouTube already removed his first one flying outdoors...

                For those who have reviewed first video with diagrams...note that HV goes from Tesla COIL top (corona) to the craft center static frame-disc...while each rotating disc is charged with +/- respectively ...both motors spin same direction (CW) but when facing each other's discs are of opposite rotation (counterspin)...

                Disc spins magnets where all (magnets) are oriented equally.

                The more people who build this simple set...the sooner it will spread around its veracity.

                Regards


                Ufopolitics
                Last edited by Ufopolitics; 09-11-2018, 06:04 PM.
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                • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                  Yes, DEFINITIVELY and absolutely agree with you Gambeir!

                  I am one who really want to replicate it!

                  What I highly recommend is to download all ALEX videos...he said YouTube already removed his first one flying outdoors...

                  For those who have reviewed first video with diagrams...note that HV goes from Tesla COIL top (corona) to the craft center static frame-disc...while each rotating disc is charged with +/- respectively ...both motors spin same direction (CW) but when facing each other's discs are of opposite rotation (counterspin)...

                  Disc spins magnets where all (magnets) are oriented equally.

                  The more people who build this simple set...the sooner it will spread around its veracity.

                  Regards


                  Ufopolitics
                  Check this video.
                  Wish I still had my Russian friends I used to live with. Would make understanding this a whole lot easier, if not maybe a slightly more costly Lol~

                  He's showing the same diagram as above with the relative charges. Just like you said Ufopolitics.
                  I'd advise saving these video's. On the other hand, even I can almost understand it, so maybe it doesn't matter.
                  Right now I'm most interested in what the materials are. He mentions a special metal.

                  At 10:18 in the video.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JrkOfqm6eY

                  Basically applied astrophysics is what's going on here. There is a scientific basis for this.
                  I believe this is related to the double layered accretion disk which forms a galactic jet.
                  Now that I've actually devoted some effort to watching a few of Ken's video's on magnetism
                  I'm gathering a lot more out of this.

                  You people that understand need to copy this stuff right now.
                  Looking at an older post of his where he's built some Grebennikov dielectric resonator plates,
                  evidently out of bismuth alloy or something, so it's evident to me that he has a good handle
                  on the nature of the machine.
                  Last edited by Gambeir; 09-11-2018, 07:14 PM.
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                  • YouTube Translator...

                    Hello,

                    You could use the YT translator in settings/ translates as subtitles.

                    It is pretty close, even though sometimes you will need some fast synonyms match to make sense on interpretation...

                    it only works on "desktop mode"...not on mobile...and you must be logged on YT.


                    Regards


                    Ufopolitics
                    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                    • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                      Hello,

                      You could use the YT translator in settings/ translates as subtitles.

                      It is pretty close, even though sometimes you will need some fast synonyms match to make sense on interpretation...

                      it only works on "desktop mode"...not on mobile...and you must be logged on YT.


                      Regards


                      Ufopolitics
                      Thanks, I forgot all about that.
                      "The past is now part of my future, the present is well out of hand." Joy Divison "Heart and Soul LP."

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                      • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                        What I highly recommend is to download all ALEX videos...he said YouTube already removed his first one flying outdoors...
                        Ufopolitics
                        Yes I would agree download and save the videos.

                        Also keep a copy on a USB flash drive in a safe place and not just leave on your HDD.

                        If it really is real and not a hoax, Iím surprised itís already lasted this long on Youtube.

                        The important aspect of it is the PRINCIPAL or Method of operation and with the new understanding of dielectricity and magnetism (Dollard, Wheeler Steimentz etc.), we can figure the working theory to fit or explain the results.

                        Replication of course is key and important. Ė You donít have to achieve complete 100% lift-off to validate, all you need is a very small result to validate it, which will go way beyond the current known state of affairs.

                        The apparatus required seems to be within the ability of most experimenters.
                        Itís likely possible once the principal is fully understood, other variations would begin to take form and be optimised.

                        Translations would be fantastic.

                        Good luck everyone.
                        Maybe the smilie is relevant:
                        "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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                        • OK had some time to devote to some of his video's. Turns out the metal he was talking about is just that it has the hammered aluminium surface. Interestingly he thinks this beaten metal effect is important for creating a resonating field. Not sure he has an understanding the dielectric plane in the magnets, but Alexey does when it comes to insects so that's part of his reasoning coming through on the hammered metal plates; from his study of beetles and Grebennikov's work he get's this part of resonating chambers. Also I've left him some information on his video. Maybe I'll hear from him?

                          This looks totally real to me, and then again we also have Allen Burgess telling us about his own experiences with seeming spinning magnetic fields, so I'm all on board with being real and working. He says it takes a lot of fiddling at times. All things considered what is amazing is that it works and works with the materials he's used.

                          Alexey Chekurkov is also using two independent electric motors, but one could use the gear box differential/Sun Gear's from an R/C car/truck to drive two plates in opposite directions using a single motor, or here is the coaxial helicopter arrangements. Until we know otherwise I'm going to assume we want the two plates spinning at the same relative speeds in opposition. It's probable these unpredictable effects which Alexey mentions may be sourced from variations in the spin rates of the two independent electric motors. A similar arrangement was first tried in tanks with both electric and gasoline motors but of course this left a lot to be desired. That kind of freedom of independence in a rotorcraft would spell instant disaster. The fact that what Alexey has built, and has also gotten to work as well as it does work; well it's somewhat mind boggling all things considered, and I think this shows there's evidently a lot of leeway in the dynamics of operation.

                          I know Sputin's knows this already, but I want to point out that you don't have to use all metal construction here either, you could use wood/plywood or G10= fiberglass plate for framing. Wood is completely reasonable and shouldn't be looked upon as inferior. It's easy to work with and bearing blocks can be used for mounting shafting. There have been model helicopters whose frames were wood. Just wanted to point out the options so mind controlling mental blocks don't stop people from being creative. Alexey basically used scrap metal to make his machine. If the plates with the magnets were better balanced it would almost certainly help as the one's in the video don't appear especially well balanced. Also using a non~metal frame prevents the magnetic/dielectric fields from possibly interacting with other metals, and which could also be inducing vibration and other unknowns, so that too would also be revealing and helpful.

                          Please post your thoughts or ideas including why this can't work, why it does work, what else could be improved on, control systems, sketches, ect.
                          Hopefully this is just the start of whole new chapter and here I was just a day ago feeling dejected and ready to abandon ship.
                          Ya never know what the Sun rise will bring.



                          Last edited by Gambeir; 09-12-2018, 10:52 AM.
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                          • Originally posted by Gambeir View Post
                            OK had some time to devote to some of his video's. Turns out the metal he was talking about is just that it has the hammered aluminium surface. Interestingly he thinks this beaten metal effect is important for creating a resonating field. Not sure he has an understanding the dielectric plane in the magnets, but Alexey does when it comes to insects so that's part of his reasoning coming through on the hammered metal plates; from his study of beetles and Grebennikov's work he get's this part of resonating chambers. Also I've left him some information on his video. Maybe I'll hear from him?

                            This looks totally real to me, and then again we also have Allen Burgess telling us about his own experiences with seeming spinning magnetic fields, so I'm all on board with being real and working. He says it takes a lot of fiddling at times. All things considered what is amazing is that it works and works with the materials he's used.

                            Alexey Chekurkov is also using two independent electric motors, but one could use the gear box differential/Sun Gear's from an R/C car/truck to drive two plates in opposite directions using a single motor, or here is the coaxial helicopter arrangements. Until we know otherwise I'm going to assume we want the two plates spinning at the same relative speeds in opposition. It's probable these unpredictable effects which Alexey mentions may be sourced from variations in the spin rates of the two independent electric motors. A similar arrangement was first tried in tanks with both electric and gasoline motors but of course this left a lot to be desired. That kind of freedom of independence in a rotorcraft would spell instant disaster. The fact that what Alexey has built, and has also gotten to work as well as it does work; well it's somewhat mind boggling all things considered, and I think this shows there's evidently a lot of leeway in the dynamics of operation.

                            I know Sputin's knows this already, but I want to point out that you don't have to use all metal construction here either, you could use wood/plywood or G10= fiberglass plate for framing. Wood is completely reasonable and shouldn't be looked upon as inferior. It's easy to work with and bearing blocks can be used for mounting shafting. There have been model helicopters whose frames were wood. Just wanted to point out the options so mind controlling mental blocks don't stop people from being creative. Alexey basically used scrap metal to make his machine. If the plates with the magnets were better balanced it would almost certainly help as the one's in the video don't appear especially well balanced. Also using a non~metal frame prevents the magnetic/dielectric fields from possibly interacting with other metals, and which could also be inducing vibration and other unknowns, so that too would also be revealing and helpful.

                            Please post your thoughts or ideas including why this can't work, why it does work, what else could be improved on, control systems, sketches, ect.
                            Hopefully this is just the start of whole new chapter and here I was just a day ago feeling dejected and ready to abandon ship.
                            Ya never know what the Sun rise will bring.



                            Hi Gambeir,

                            I like Carbon Fiber and Fiberglass for main frame...

                            As for the differential suggestion, I do not believe it will work for this particular design...unless we want to open a huge hole on center STATIC DISC, which I see it could cause problems that at this moment I cannot explain...besides, having just one HORIZONTAL Mounted motor will bring a lot of UNBALANCED results plus lack of stability when hovering by itself.

                            What's wrong with two small and cheap motors connected in parallel?...I see this as the easiest way to put it together. If you notice RPM'S are really low...so not even full blast of power is required...I would short cut on motor controllers by using two small brushed motors..

                            The Center Static Disc I believe must be BUILT AS IS SHOWN , meaning no holes in center plus way wider in Diameter than the spinning discs.

                            As for the HV supply delivering between 20-30 Kv...I believe a small ignition coil would do...as I believe it is positive HV (check the lamp attached to top of small Tesla COIL...it lights up when hand grounded.

                            Actually building the main frame plus motor-discs assy is the part would take a bit longer.

                            If you notice the lower spinning disc assy is off horizontal plane related to Center Static Disc...which means this technology is not as "picky" as RC Helicopters require a super precision plus accuracy...and that's an advantage for the builders.

                            EDIT 1: I almost forgot about the 2 phase PC FAN MOTORS!!...They should work beautifully for this device...as the do not require heavy torque here...since they are not propelling wind...but flat and smooth discs.-


                            Regards



                            Ufopolitics
                            Last edited by Ufopolitics; 09-12-2018, 02:45 PM.
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                            • Is it real or hoax?

                              I hope its real.

                              A hoax? - One thing I noticed with the original version-1 prototype, from the first "Fireplace video", before it lifts off, there seems to be a cut in the video and then there is a shadow that appears just to the left of the disc. The shadow seems like it comes from Alex and it seems to move with the movement of the disc.. So from that, I can't say its a hoax, but it does present the possibiliy of one?

                              No Shadow:


                              Shadow:


                              Watch it again for yourselves...
                              Last edited by Sputins; 09-12-2018, 02:59 PM.
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                              • But pressing ahead, on the hope that it's real...

                                So far I have seen three versions of these Discs...

                                Prototype Version-1; Second Version-2; and from the latest video, Third Version-3

                                Version-1:

                                Version-1 Side shot:



                                Version-2
                                :

                                Version-2 Side shot:



                                Version-3:

                                Version-3 side shot:



                                Circuit:


                                The circuit has Four parts.

                                1) There is the Disc assembly itself.
                                2) There is the Disc motor power supply
                                3) There is the disc DC high volatge power supply
                                4) There is the Tesla Coil and it's power supply

                                I am yet to understand fully how the disc HV DC power supply is connected to the spinning discs. I thought it was via a brush, like fine wire, but I can't see that... In the circuit diagram it shows the + / - HV terminal in proximity to the discs but not actually connected..?

                                Version 1 & 2 have the hammered finish aluminium plate, but the latest version-3, I can't see it there as yet.

                                The motors seem to have a fairly low rpm so the rotor speed may be a crittical element. Of course the voltages would be crittical as well.

                                Bed time.
                                "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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