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  • bistander
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    Wrong

    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    Pop goes the weasel, and bi speaks! I knew he would. running his mouth is all he ever does. No building, no researching. Just blathering.

    Yes bi, I HAVE read the physics definition of potential. Unfortunately for YOU we are dealing with the electrical definition of potential, which is simply the charge in an electrical circuit. You can't even get the 3 battery system to work and you're going to lecture ME about potential? I wonder if you realize how often the few of us who have working systems talk about you and LAUGH out loud at how moronic some of your comments are and how LITTLE you actually know?

    I moved to my new house over a year ago, and am STILL in the process of moving and remodeling the last house for sale. Until that remodel is finished I have no intention of wasting any of my time working on the generator just to prove something to YOU. You are not worth my time. Those who have a desire to build it and see for themselves will do so. That is what REAL researchers do. The rest are just whiners insisting on proof before they do anything, and that is not a true researcher. That's a crybaby. Every single project on this forum that I thought had a HINT of possibly working, I attempted to replicate. Sometimes successfully, and sometimes not. I didn't wait for proof, mostly because I don't believe something is real until I see it running on my bench.

    Here's a little experiment to learn something, and possibly change what you thought you knew... "Charge" a battery to completely full. Now, put a kilowatt meter on the battery and run a load until your battery is down around 12.2. Now plug an AC kilowatt meter into the wall and run your battery charger on it to charge that battery back up to full. How many times the energy SPENT on the load (according to YOUR measurements) did it take to charge that battery back to full? (according to YOUR measurements.) WHY? Because you weren't really "charging" that battery at all. If you understand WHY I say that, you are on the path to free energy. If you don't, you are still spinning your wheels in the mud.
    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    Yes bi, I HAVE read the physics definition of potential. Unfortunately for YOU we are dealing with the electrical definition of potential, which is simply the charge in an electrical circuit.
    You claim the "electrical definition of potential" is different than the "physics definition of potential". And that "the electrical definition of potential [, which] is simply the charge in an electrical circuit". You're wrong on both counts. I encourage readers to look up definitions and basic fundamental lessons on the subject.

    I've charged thousands of batteries. I don't need to charge one more to understand what's going on. You need to learn that, not me.

    bi

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  • jettis
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    Hi Dave,

    The diagrams shown on the image you attached indicate coils wound with parallel wires and not the bifilar (or multifilar) winding of the Tesla patent. Parallel wire coils are common place in industry and used extensively in motors and generators. There is no magic here...
    Regards,

    bi
    You say ďThere is no magic hereĒ but you are not thinking about what you can do when you decrease the conductor diameter, lengthen the conductor and then parallel multiple strands for low resistance. That is were the magic is.

    Dave Wing

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  • Turion
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    Whack-a-mole

    Pop goes the weasel, and bi speaks! I knew he would. running his mouth is all he ever does. No building, no researching. Just blathering.

    Yes bi, I HAVE read the physics definition of potential. Unfortunately for YOU we are dealing with the electrical definition of potential, which is simply the charge in an electrical circuit. You can't even get the 3 battery system to work and you're going to lecture ME about potential? I wonder if you realize how often the few of us who have working systems talk about you and LAUGH out loud at how moronic some of your comments are and how LITTLE you actually know?

    I moved to my new house over a year ago, and am STILL in the process of moving and remodeling the last house for sale. Until that remodel is finished I have no intention of wasting any of my time working on the generator just to prove something to YOU. You are not worth my time. Those who have a desire to build it and see for themselves will do so. That is what REAL researchers do. The rest are just whiners insisting on proof before they do anything, and that is not a true researcher. That's a crybaby. Every single project on this forum that I thought had a HINT of possibly working, I attempted to replicate. Sometimes successfully, and sometimes not. I didn't wait for proof, mostly because I don't believe something is real until I see it running on my bench.

    Here's a little experiment to learn something, and possibly change what you thought you knew... "Charge" a battery to completely full. Now, put a kilowatt meter on the battery and run a load until your battery is down around 12.2. Now plug an AC kilowatt meter into the wall and run your battery charger on it to charge that battery back up to full. How many times the energy SPENT on the load (according to YOUR measurements) did it take to charge that battery back to full? (according to YOUR measurements.) WHY? Because you weren't really "charging" that battery at all. If you understand WHY I say that, you are on the path to free energy. If you don't, you are still spinning your wheels in the mud.

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  • bistander
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    Parallel wire coils

    Originally posted by jettis View Post
    Bistander... use the coil wind Turion showed. Bedini, Ron Cole, Bob Teal and I am sure many, if not all inventors used this coil winding technique. I know I have used it just like many others here on this forum, it works. The winding technique has all the benefits listed and is 100 percent FACTUAL and cannot be disputed.



    Dave Wing
    Hi Dave,

    The diagrams shown on the image you attached indicate coils wound with parallel wires and not the bifilar (or multifilar) winding of the Tesla patent. Parallel wire coils are common place in industry and used extensively in motors and generators. There is no magic here.

    Having zero context around the notes by Ron Cole, I hesitate to comment except that it appears on the surface to be gibberish.

    I have no problem with the Tesla patent showing bifilar winding and with his claims. I object to what others read into it and use it to promote their brand of BS.

    Regards,

    bi
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  • jettis
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    Understanding potential? You don't have a clue. You should look up the definition of potential (as it applies to physics). Ever done that?

    You asked for it: Your claims are BS. You are the one hiding. Come back with these posts. Where is your great energy invention? Where is the proof of your claims? Not here. Just more waist of time.

    You say I contribute nothing. Maybe true. I just relate fact and truth which already exist. But you. You contribute worse than nothing. You promote falsehoods and fiction.

    So, I do have internet under the rock. I'm still waiting for you to show the world your energy machine. You've missed any and all deadlines. "In a few weeks", "after I move", "lost the baseplate", "rotor is in the machine shop", on & on. But nothing ever makes it here, does it? And then you go and delete all those posts promising back-up, and demonstration of your reasons why other members' tests do not support your erroneous methods.

    Regards,

    bi
    Bistander... use the coil wind Turion showed. Bedini, Ron Cole, Bob Teal and I am sure many, if not all inventors used this coil winding technique. I know I have used it just like many others here on this forum, it works. The winding technique has all the benefits listed and is 100 percent FACTUAL and cannot be disputed.

    Dave Wing
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    Last edited by jettis; 12-02-2019, 08:57 PM.

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  • bistander
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    Potential based systems

    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    Understanding potential based systems, and I do mean REALLY understanding them, is the key to free energy. PERIOD. I have said this many times, and I will continue to bring it up until the day that all the good stuff is finally open sourced. But that day is fast approaching.
    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    Bro Mikey,
    You got it exactly right. People just havenít pushed it far enough. But thatís ok, because WE have. It will all come out some day in the very near future.

    I made that post for a couple reasons. I donít want this idea to die because it is too important, and others need to go down that path. But also because, if it wasnít for this forum we wouldnít be where we are now. And I want people to realize and remember that it all started HERE.

    Oh, and I also wanted to give bistander another opportunity to crawl out from under whatever rock he hides under and publicly ridicule my claims like he always does. He contributes nothing, and is gone from the forum for weeks when I stay silent. But the minute I begin posting again, up pops his little head like a whack-a-mole.

    We have shown you the wind. It is up to you to build the sail if you want to get anywhere. We didnít get it by standing around talking about it, or denying that the wind existed.
    Understanding potential? You don't have a clue. You should look up the definition of potential (as it applies to physics). Ever done that?

    You asked for it: Your claims are BS. You are the one hiding. Come back with these posts. Where is your great energy invention? Where is the proof of your claims? Not here. Just more waist of time.

    You say I contribute nothing. Maybe true. I just relate fact and truth which already exist. But you. You contribute worse than nothing. You promote falsehoods and fiction.

    So, I do have internet under the rock. I'm still waiting for you to show the world your energy machine. You've missed any and all deadlines. "In a few weeks", "after I move", "lost the baseplate", "rotor is in the machine shop", on & on. But nothing ever makes it here, does it? And then you go and delete all those posts promising back-up, and demonstration of your reasons why other members' tests do not support your erroneous methods.

    Regards,

    bi

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  • Turion
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    Potential Difference

    Bro Mikey,
    You got it exactly right. People just havenít pushed it far enough. But thatís ok, because WE have. It will all come out some day in the very near future.

    I made that post for a couple reasons. I donít want this idea to die because it is too important, and others need to go down that path. But also because, if it wasnít for this forum we wouldnít be where we are now. And I want people to realize and remember that it all started HERE.

    Oh, and I also wanted to give bistander another opportunity to crawl out from under whatever rock he hides under and publicly ridicule my claims like he always does. He contributes nothing, and is gone from the forum for weeks when I stay silent. But the minute I begin posting again, up pops his little head like a whack-a-mole.

    We have shown you the wind. It is up to you to build the sail if you want to get anywhere. We didnít get it by standing around talking about it, or denying that the wind existed.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    Understanding and I do mean REALLY understanding them, is the key to free energy. PERIOD. I have said this many times, and I will continue to bring it up until the day that all the good stuff is finally open sourced. But that day is fast approaching.
    I know very little about the subject of potential based systems, other than
    the split the positive keeping a balanced re-circulatory energy loop.I
    really have nothing else to add to my sentence I am ashamed to say
    because I don't have even the foggiest idea what could be added.

    Well maybe, the idea of a potential difference should go on forever
    because something is always left over on the way to zero.

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  • Turion
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    The Key to Free Energy

    Understanding potential based systems, and I do mean REALLY understanding them, is the key to free energy. PERIOD. I have said this many times, and I will continue to bring it up until the day that all the good stuff is finally open sourced. But that day is fast approaching.

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  • BroMikey
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    BH curve

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UFKl9fULkA[/VIDEO]

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  • BroMikey
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    Success stable voltages

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XXKWGzPnwo[/VIDEO]

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  • BroMikey
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    Another free energy device comin

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jNEegIIxS8[/VIDEO]

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  • BroMikey
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    Yer runnin out pal

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSoBYtG0yCc[/VIDEO]

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    Bro,
    First it was two years you were asking for the scope. Now it is one year. If you go back and read our communications in email AND PMís on the forum you will see just how much you have exaggerated the timeline. I know, because I DID.
    Yer probably right it was spread out over 2 different years like part of 2017
    and part of 2018 I think it was but I'll think of something else to hit you
    with just let me collect my thoughts You got wide shoulders, I can hit
    you as hard as I want and you just pop back up
    Last edited by BroMikey; 10-27-2019, 10:34 PM.

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  • Turion
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    Time is on my side

    Bro,
    First it was two years you were asking for the scope. Now it is one year. If you go back and read our communications in email AND PM’s on the forum you will see just how much you have exaggerated the timeline. I know, because I DID.

    bi,
    The problem with YOUR statement is that several folks HAVE seen my machine up and running and putting out what I claim, including two people at an independent testing lab. Of course that was an OLDER version, but it operated on the same principles. So nice try, but you cannot persuade someone who has seen something work that it does not. No matter how much time you waste. By the way, it is only THEORY if it hasn't been built. This has been built, tested, and works. Not what I would call theory.
    Last edited by Turion; 10-27-2019, 08:09 PM.

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