Splitting The Positive

[BroMikey]

Hi bro! I also acheive better result with a load
on the 3rd batt side. It is a bit tricky to adjust the 2 load but it give
longer run time wile running more things.
Good work guys!

Yes Sir you too

great work finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
You are a winner.

Here is what is going on over here. I order a rotor HUB for a measly $12
Bucks that fits right on my scooter Mod-Motor, had the magnets and
"C" cores, take a gander.

It's a start for a beginner.

[BroMikey]

Here is a video that had explored the roots of the TESLA SWITCH
while turning a motor. The relays are large industrial.

As we review "IMPULSE TECHNOLOGY" it is important to re-state that
pumping energy needs to be recycled or recirculated. This is what the
"TESLA SWITCH" was all about. It is a pumping circuit where energy
is sent around from battery to battery and if the system is proportioned
correctly little or no loss occurs.

The "TESLA SWITCH" is an exercise in "ENERGY PUMPING" and is only
one of many forms of "Impulse Tech"

The next step is to increase the COP of the circuit that often was no
higher than 1 or sometimes just under COP of 1. This next step is all
about introducing carefully balanced loads INTO the existing pumped
energy region without diminishing the primary systems recirculating
COP.

These subsystems that get installed into the recirculated lines that
extract additional energy are called "NODES" Nodes that are considered
anomalous phenomena by the strictest standards. If we are ever to get
anywhere in this area of research something must be written on the
subject that gives a new comer an idea about how the "TESLA SWITCH"
started and what it was FOR. In other words what is the purpose for
building it? Other than the switch being just another proof of concept?

Who knows. This thread is called "SPLITTING THE POSITIVE" because
this is the basis for sending energy around a circuit pathway from battery
to battery like the TESLA SWITCH does.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ncqXy9y5No[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

Progress report on 3 battery Tesla Switch generator

I am doing 2 motors at once a rotor and hub. Last night for the first
time I took a 3/4" circle of wood and bolted it up to check end play

Wow wee this thing is 180 thousandths out. So I am pulling out
my acrylic sheets. The commutator came for the treadmill motor the
one I broke trying to change the timing. I machined a shoulder rest
into it so it may fit on the shaft the way it was before. I bought
some 50 cent shims to get the tolerances and now I need to decide
on the glue to hold it.

I have cylindrical shaped magnets measuring 1/2" dia by 1" long. I wish
I could find some wider "C" cores to wind my coils on. Anyone who knows
where I can find big "C" cores let me know. Also if anyone has replaced
a commutator before let me know of the best glue. Some glues are only
good for 200 degrees.

I must say that I have seen plastic sheeting warp up bad so maybe
finding an AZAK board or STARBOARD is a better way. For now I am
stuck with acrylic.

You can resharpen your drill bits to drill acrylic much more safely.

I think I'll probably go with 1/4" spacing on magnets to core material. I
would love to follow Thane's design if I could find Permalloy sheeting that
didn't cost so much. That would make it easier to bolt down "C" cores
that I would not be afraid that they might break or crack with vibration.

If anyone knows where to get a bulk break on Permalloy construction
sheeting let me know. I will have to start my lathe I guess.

[BroMikey]

The Critical Frequency

Bifilars and trifilar coils are series connected for speeding up under
a load and connected in parallel for braking.

I found this simple calculation on THANE HEINS youtube by another
man following THANE'S work. He has a simple test setup and has found
what we all will see at the right speed.

TIME CONSTANTS FOR L/C circuits he shows the delayed time
calculations that produce the effect. SO simple. Wind your coils
bifilar or trifilar series connected measure ohms and Henry's of the
coil. Resistance of 1000ft of any awg wire can be found in charts
online for copper conductors.



[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVFXSZzUNmE[/VIDEO]

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSCIws7zppU[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

Magnetic Losses

In order to keep so much information straight I add the video's
I like as I research. I am seeing now that we have lots of experimenters
who are blocked in the spirit of their minds to perceive the setup or
result.

This video should help all of the young men in this field of study between
the ages of 12yrs and 60years old. We are all learning but some have
certain insurmountable character flaws that will always produce negative
results. This behavior is exhibited from an early age and nothing can change.

We need young minds or minds that were never reduced to the size of
a little tin box, rather minds that know no boundaries. The rest of you
we are glad to have along so once a new device is born you will have
something to buy. Neither the inventor nor the backer is better than
the other, it's just the facts of life.

Stick with your gift.

This video tells us something quite important about the flux path between
the motor and the experimental generator. In this demonstration we
will see how one person could build exactly the same set up as the next
person and get completely opposite results.

When connecting a prime mover (in my case the Modified Motor) to a
low lenz generator section, some testing is already available at your
disposable. In this portion of my research with selecting a generator
I have decided to find people who talk about and show hard data
concerning drag free operation.

This is how the jargon goes

Lenz free

Low Drag

Drag free

acceleration under load

regenerative acceleration

Among others just to name a few are often exactly the same thought
but explained by each individual differently to put it mildly. In this video
the lesson is simple and I like easy right to the point rock solid information.

Plain and simple, if you are using a plastic rotor with magnets you will
not get the same results as when a steel rotor is used. In fact you may
never get what you are after unless you can provide a return flux path
coming off of the generator magnetic rotor back to the prime mover or
motor.

In this video proof is shown.

170-ohm coil producing only 75volts the rotor running under 90 rpm's
and the results are two.

Part 1&2 for the first video. Part 3 and beyond show more things.




[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogLeKTlLy5E[/VIDEO]

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vX8Cxkrpqs[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

NEW FLUX PATH IDEAS

In part 4 another setup for another application. Here the
design does not add any magnetic flux back to the prime mover and the
speed is unaffected. No acceleration. So if the flux path is setup any
which way you may get a vastly different result.

These are toroid coil packs coupled back to the rotor



[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpIdu1lWVW0[/VIDEO]

[wantomake]

YouTube problems

Hey Bromikey,
I use a Kindle fire and can't watch any of the YouTube references you post. I believe it's this tablet not you. But usually the one line links I've no problem with those.

If not that's cool, but enjoy your insights,
wantomake

[BroMikey]

Hey Dave

Another thing that occurred to me was that these video's are Thane's
early experiments of which he deleted but someone else saved and
re-posted. I think he thought many things that was not true in his
beginnings.

I decided to re-watch all of the 7 parts of Thane's old videos and in
conclusion after thinking about what I saw, today I have come to
realize that (A) flux paths do play a part but the full answer was still
hidden.

These experiments were accomplished by Thane in the early 2000's
and then later after much work he started showing youtube examples
of what he had so far.

At the very least we can conclude that flux coupling has an effect.

What I had originally thought to do was to put foil strips on each magnet
on a plastic rotor that lead to the shaft where flux could still travel to
see if any thing new might arise.

I suppose if the coil is long enough it will work? I don't have enough time
under my belt thinking about it yet. In the example where Thane uses a
twin coil pack (Toroid) then that is flux coupled back to the shaft then
the rotor picks it up there and on to the magnets. All back around again
and again with no effect on the prime mover. WOW. Thane is generating
energy that way with no drag on the prime mover.

It shows how fallible early thinking can be.

[BroMikey]

I have been undecided on rotor materials up to now and last night
I pulled out one of my high speed 10" table saw blades and installed
it onto my new CNC hub. My new magnets came today and next will
buy a spool of 30awg to wind coils.

I need an RPM meter but just guessing I would say the modified motor
without a boost on it run on 12vdc turns 300-400RPM's just a guess
for all I know that is more like 800 rpm's.

My modified motor an rotor are so so smooth at top speeds.

[BroMikey]

Hey Bromikey,
I use a Kindle fire and can't watch any of the YouTube references you
post. I believe it's this tablet not you. But usually the one line links
I've no problem with those.

If not that's cool, but enjoy your insights,
wantomake

Hey wanto

I missed you post but yes it works here. It still works. You might need
to UPDATE the adobe flash on that thing, my wife has one of those and
bought a NOOK because the Kindles are already out dated.

OUTDATED means they neglect the software intentionally.

[BroMikey]

From pictures to hardware progress report.

This is the rotor build making sure in this experiment to use all
steel components like used in electric car motors. The all steel rotor
will allow flux to return back to the drive motor.

What can it say? A picture is worth a thousand words. I could
say "3 Battery Motor/Gen" and "Tesla Switch Motor" or Matt's Energizer"

In a recent post Dave said that if we who build "Matt's Modified Motor"
got enough hours operating it we would see that the rotor is not the only
way in which to get the extra energy.

....my big generator has cost me OVER
$3,000.00 to build with the changes, rebuilds, etc. That I have
done, and about $400 of that was just for the wire, and another
$450 just for magnets. I have been accused of all kinds of things
and called all kinds of names for not SHARING how to build it, but
who would have been able to replicate it anyway?????!!!!! Not
only that, but it is already OBSOLETE because of what we have
learned. Remember, I built version one well over two YEARS ago.
As I said recently, you don't NEED the rotors and magnets.

You need five deep cycle BIG batteries for the 3 battery system
You need a method of rotating the batteries and I believe Carroll
JUST POSTED that.
You need to understand that all your connections need to be made
with #12 wire, not radio shack clip leads. (well, MAYBE #14 would
work, but I hope you get the picture.)
And you need to understand what the 3 battery system DOES and
what it is CAPABLE of doing before you are ready to move on.
You need to spend a heck of a lot of time with Matt's rewound pulse
motor until you understand EXACTLY WHAT is going on with the
system and WHY. And when you THINK you know what is going
on, change some things up and see what happens. Put loads in
different places.

And when all that is said and done, Take a LONG HARD look at
that pulse motor and figure out (I know you can do it!) what it is.
What it DOES. And what is LEFT when you remove the "rotor"
and the "magnets" that I said you didn't need. You have to be a
little creative in your thinking here, because the rotor I was
speaking of was the one to hold the magnets, not the one in
an actual motor. But I have faith SOMEONE will figure it out.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcIYOWaypvM[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

I spent some time drilling holes today and fitting magnets to the rotor.
Also looking at the rise and fall times as well as the frequency of the
little energizer modified motor that everyone is ignoring. Your lose is my
gain.

I have all of the holes cut and 8 out of 20 fixtures installed.

I am rusty as hell on a scope but every time I run a measurement the
fall times look to be 70 nano when I am running at 10volts today from
a half dead Alum. It is charging back up.

These motors run thru a commutator look so much different than a
standard pulse does from a circuit. I am not sure what the RPM on these
modified motors run at 12volts and I still don't have an RPM gauge.
However it looks fast to me about 1300 RPM? I know a 24v motor runs 2500rpm. If anyone has taken a reading on their motor let me know
what RPM's you are running. I am probably not going to find out from
anyone of these threads but it won't hurt to ask.

I can't believe how little consideration this modified motor has been
shown or the fact that among people with so many tittles can't offer
basic data on motor operation.

I realize many of you know but are out of time, so questions just sort
of fall to the ground.

The scope shows a longitudinal type wave like a rope being shook.
It looks like an 80% duty cycle but this digital scope will fool ya. I need
to go back to my analog scope for such low frequency jobs.

I couldn't get a peek to peek reading, I couldn't ever read 10volts on
the digital scope after it got running. I will try my other probes. This
pulse motor is reading very strangely. It reminds me of the SG Osc
circuits but the switched brush action is a different world.

I'll keep building parts.The digital scope shows much ringing, here
is the analog scope. I'll be back after it gets done in a few weeks.

[JohnStone]

Hi Bro,
before you trust scopes you should check their properties! Every scope owns a maximum frequency where the readings are still wihtin tolarance.
It might be true that your older analog scope has a much lower frequency range compared to your digital one. Thus it is no wonder that it smoothes the wave form out - but does not show true facts.
If you want to get rid of this trigger problem forever you might try to add an opto sensor (or hall sensor) to the motor and connect it to the external trigger. Then you will have at every revolution the very same start point and you see only one single and same transition at every revolution.
Moving the rigger mark you can conecutively check every coil individually.

An other frequent problem is that setups have nc FAT and MASSIVE and CENRATL GND referenece point. Then it is very very difficult to find a reliable GND tap for the scope. It is like searching for a solid reference point inside a water fall.

It is a good idea to choose the battery minus pole as GND reference and connect all GNDs in star shape here to - but FAT wires.

for more study see:
Solving Ground Loop Problems - Star Grounding
https://kasunsomaratne.com/2014/07/1...educing-noise/

It is like at PCs. The problem sometimes sits well incarnated before the screen! :-) That's my experinece with myself.
Rgds
John

[BroMikey]

Hello Everyone

I would like to say that my project construction is coming along just fine.
The rotor material I selected has many great anti-warping qualities yet is
a real challenge to put such large holes into such thin plate.

Got it.

Also the filing process using a rat tail file to hone to the thousandths the
inter diameter of the 1/2' X 1/2" iron tubes takes time. I now have 15
mounted on the rotor. Once adjustments are made to bring the individual
magnets all into close proximity to to cores, I will dip the rotor plate.

As I populate the rotor it is becoming a heavy object and if need be I will
mount the rotor on a separate set of bearing as I have stated before. For
now the rotor is going to run straight off the modified scooter motor.

Turion has recently mentioned that the modified motor has a distinct
advantage over any other device he has yet to try when splitting the
POS....

I'll have to agree. The energizer action thru the use of the abrupt
electrical condition created by the brushes can not be matched in
many cases with circuits by the average joe. I am enjoying this the
way it is.

Thanks to the inventor.

You guys know me by now and when i am ready, I'll be sitting on your
front porch with the good news. Hold on just minute and I'll be right
there.

Hey Dave, how are the holes?

[BroMikey]

What BroMikey is doing now falls more under his motor/generator thread...........

If you read and understand everything that is in the Bedini SG series Peter and John have put together, and that includes what is in the "Beyond" video and still can't build the free energy device ........................

it is time to hire someone to do it for you or get a new hobby.

I am absolutely AMAZED that thousands of folks aren't popping up .......
there are so few real builders out there...................

Hi Dave

Thats right, the old dogs have long since given up and they are incapable
of performing any new tricks and if you ask me, I never thought most of
them had it in them to begin with, always disagreeing projecting skepticism
while their so called experiments were in progress. Half hearted
also find what they are looking for, nothing.