U-PLUG generator /// investigation of claim ?

[RAMSET]

I will add one more comment to the "opinion" scales ,

To my Knowledge there is no verifiable independent 3rd party report on this product ,and the manufacturer has refused a Free visit from an independent 3rd party !

To be absolutely clear ...the independent 3rd party investigation which was offered is a black box verification , No secrets need be revealed ..just load testing and stop watch to verify output over time ,in this case the constant 2 plus HP output claims would not take long at all to verify.


so yes it would seem very odd indeed ....

Chet K

[wayne.ct]

Patents

I don't think they say what country or countries have granted them patents. So, you can not really know whether their patents are worth anything or not. There is more that is not said than what is being discussed here so far. I would be looking for satisfied customers that are not somehow beholden to the manufacturer. In fact, I don't think any customers were mentioned. This is not to say they are a total fraud and a hoax. There is not enough information here to form a decent opinion.

[RAMSET]

I do understand the questions here ,we are after all talking about
something which has never been done before [magnets doing work ]
or at least never shared with the world ..

I have given Tim the opportunity to contribute to a statement here .
hopefully he will do so .

respectfully
Chet K

[wrtner]

Currently we have 2 patents in place and are waiting on a 3rd patent

But in whose name?

[alman]

2 patents in progress

On their website, they say: "We cannot give to much more info without divulging our secrets, so we have kept this explanation as simple as it is".

Neither to take out a patent nor to run the project as "open source" is a pretty hazardous thing to do. Certainly, there is no mention of U-Plug or Slavings in the USPTO or the EPO.

Anyone who hauls it to pieces and works out how it works could file a patent and lock them out.

The following is from their comments below their youtube video:

"

U-Plug Products 2 months ago
+Charles Coslor

Currently we have 2 patents in place and are waiting on a 3rd patent and so for security reasons we will not show the internal workings yet.

We developed a simplified planetary gear system with multiple shafts that have our magnets in them. Each magnet can pick up over 2500 pounds each. There are several magnets per shaft, and when they are in the proper position they begin to spin. This will cause a push pull type of effect that has worked quite well for over 2 1/2 years. Then we surround the unit with the field coils to generate the power, pull too much power and it slows down too much.

We cannot give to much more info without divulging our secrets, so we have kept this explanation as simple as it is.
The U-Plug Green system will generate between 17.25 amps and 19.5 amps maximum, and is controlled by 2 circuit boards located at the top of the unit. We have set the unit at 2000 watts maximum for reliability.
The circuit boards control the speed, amperage, and the output wattage so that the coils are not damaged. Other safety devices inside the unit are provided in case water gets inside, and to protect it from overheating.
Maximum operating temp is around 135 degrees and so far we have found that the unit will operate at -60 degrees with no problems.
When you purchase our product it comes with a 3 year
warranty.
Thank you,"

[wrtner]

On their website, they say: "We cannot give to much more info without divulging our secrets, so we have kept this explanation as simple as it is".

Neither to take out a patent nor to run the project as "open source" is a pretty hazardous thing to do. Certainly, there is no mention of U-Plug or Slavings in the USPTO or the EPO.

Anyone who hauls it to pieces and works out how it works could file a patent and lock them out.

[thx1138]

if we were standing In a sea of gasoline.. flinging matches..

That is actually an interesting observation. You can throw a lit cigarette into a puddle of gasoline and it will extinguish the cigarette. It's the vapors that are explosive. The difference? Phase change from liquid to gaseous state and oxygen content. Are all forms of energy as we know them (kinetic, thermal, electric, magnetic, gravity) simply different phase states of some fundamental form of energy mixed with something?

[Ernst]

Ernst
Making Any power from Magnets ...and magnets only ??

Doing work with a "magnet only" array ??

regardless of run time or Output would be a true Game changer.

Chet K

Absolutely true!

Ernst.

[RAMSET]

Matt
quote
Thats the beauty of people who have an open mind to try..who knows what they'll stumble on.

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I completely agree ! I also feel that taking out the stumble as much as possible will yield results too.

some of the older members with much experience in these FE fields can really help others to focus ,by sharing their experiences whenever possible or appropriate.

and just to be clear I am talking about those who have searched for that elusive beast . the monster that rains down thunder and lightning to balance this sea of energy we walk so casually thru ...seemingly unaware !

Besides THAT beast we have ANOTHER to consider ??
the power which is Seething in all that exists

if we were standing In a sea of gasoline.. flinging matches.. it would not begin to compare with the potential energy which is all around us !

and now it would seem we can indeed Tap into that power ,Alexander Parkhomov and others ...followed Rossi's lead and found we can indeed harvest from the elements ..with ridiculously low energy ...

I know that scares some folks ,however It is truly our destiny !

Oh speaking of Photons [your reference above]...There's a little fellow that figured out how to hunt with Photons ,he knocks one out of orbit and causes a 9000 C biological sonoluminescent event ... he does this with one claw tied behind his back ! [pistol shrimp]

seems he's already sorted out one way to mess with the wheelwork of nature
But he's just a Bug...

we have a lot to learn ...and plenty of it is outside the box or should I call it
the cage ??

Sorry to ramble,

its just that ..I believe !!

Chet K

[Matthew Jones]

Well you can go back and read Howard Johnson and his results with Asymmetric magnets and assemblies. There is also the Searl effect.
Its not an unheard of or undiscussed subject.
Personally what I have seen I believe it could be possible to build an assembly or cast magnet that could chase its own tale for lack of better words.
The trick would be removing some of the magnetic field from the loop, actually extracting the photon from the magnets field.
Thats the beauty of people who have an open mind to try..who knows what they'll stumble on.

Matt

[RAMSET]

Ernst
Making Any power from Magnets ...and magnets only ??

Doing work with a "magnet only" array ??

regardless of run time or Output would be a true Game changer.

Chet K

[Ernst]

You assumed magnets are moving, don't you ?

My previous post would be exactly the same whether the magnets move or not.
To answer your question: I did not assume anything, but now you mentioned it I believe I read it somewhere.

Yes, right here:

when they are in the proper position they begin to spin.

(see Bob Smiths quote)


Ernst.

[boguslaw]

2000 Watt for 1 year continuous would be 63 billion Joules.
They claim it would run for 20 years?
That is an awful lot of power coming from just a few magnets.

It sure would be great if it were true, but I have some difficulty believing it.
The more so because I do not believe that "magnetic energy" can be harnessed; what would that mean for the magnetic material on an atomic scale?
In my understanding a magnet is magnetic because all the 'atomic magnets' are aligned.
Removing this alignment would not result in energy being freed/released.

Well, in other words, I do not see a source of energy, and therefore I am inclined to not believing in it.
No matter how nice the feller.


Ernst.

You assumed magnets are moving, don't you ?

[Ernst]

2000 Watt for 1 year continuous would be 63 billion Joules.
They claim it would run for 20 years?
That is an awful lot of power coming from just a few magnets.

It sure would be great if it were true, but I have some difficulty believing it.
The more so because I do not believe that "magnetic energy" can be harnessed; what would that mean for the magnetic material on an atomic scale?
In my understanding a magnet is magnetic because all the 'atomic magnets' are aligned.
Removing this alignment would not result in energy being freed/released.

Well, in other words, I do not see a source of energy, and therefore I am inclined to not believing in it.
No matter how nice the feller.


Ernst.

[RAMSET]

Well it would be very nice indeed ??

I did speak with Tim today, seems a nice enuff fellow , some associates will be looking at his previous vetting process and hopefully that will lead to further commitments ?

we shall see

will keep all posted..
thanks

Chet K