ReGenX Coils and ReGenXtra switching

[BroMikey]

With all due respect a Bedini monopole coil is not very different
from a REGENX coil, though you are right in your analogy of the failure
comparisons. Monopole coils are easy as all specs are listed.

Not a REGENX coil.

I think the Monopole coil and the REGENX coils overlap in
some areas of operation. Such as the "SELF CAPACITANCE"
brought about by winding coils in the bifilar, trifilar, quadfilar
and so on way of winding.

I think it is significant, that the Bedini motor could be
fitted with REGENX generator coils very easily, in fact I think
that John Bedini did make his generator coils long enough for
a delayed lenz to occur. John Bedini also has shown his
generator coils to be bifilar wound in some experiments so
the coils resonant function could be reached at the needed
RPM.

The RMP being very slow, but none the less anyone with
a monopole can assist rotor action thru the delayed lenz
REGENX coil, if this is what we desire to call it.

The term REGENX coil is only one set of circumstances that
one man has enacted to bring about his effect plus name
he put on it. That is fine I think he should.

For this I am grateful. Thane has more definitively illustrated
what I believe John B. generator coil did at the slower speed.

Now concerning being lost without a compass John B did not
do that as you pointed out and I do not think we should say
that THANE has abandoned us either.

There is a huge difference in what THANE is doing as compared
to what John B. did. John showed us years of refined work with
a step by step list of parts that he put together over a 30 year
period. This was a side line. John B builds electronic gaming
devices, John spent most of his life building amplifiers to pay the
bills.

So what John has shown he has freely given.

On the other hand THANE makes his living, solely off of
the technology/research and development we see as REGENX
or transformers with a delayed lenz.

This is very significant to note. One has made very little
money working in the field of building alternate energy products
for his lively hood, while the other makes ALL of his money to
pay the bills by selling his technology, so YOU CAN BUILD IT.

When you see that, you see more clearly and you can
understand why experimentation in the area of the REGENX
technology becomes important. The monopole path was
refined over 30 plus years and is no challenge to get it
to do what was promised. I love it and we all needed that.

Thank you John.

The REGENX is an off shoot of the same tech, bifilar (Tesla Style)
coils with the axial motor magnets hurling by. Some use hall effects
triggers, some use an adjacent triggering coil to transistor or just
a plain ole everyday commutator.

These wheels with magnet passing by coils produce many things
such as the magneto effects John B. gave us and depending we
use these axial motors in a wide range of devices today.

If all of you remembered the Bedini generator coil work you
would know that the length of that coil was 5X longer than
the hundred foot energizer coils were. The generator coils
were intended to be used exactly the same way Thane uses
these coils he calls REGENX coils.

I looked back in the history of what THANE HEINS said about
who he gives credit to for finding the answers to build his
motors. Thane said he got the ideas from his work with
the Bedini devices. This was a start but not to ignore his
continued research and development with regenerative
braking at the university.

It doesn't surprise me, how about you?

This message is only meant to stimulate and encourage others
to think outside of the box so they may gain some insight on
how they could proceed with their experiments and does not
require anyone to answer the questions or address statement
made for educational purposes ONLY.

[BroMikey]

The voice of experience is worth it's weight in gold. Yes I
agree that we are shooting in the dark, however IF we
generalize when we look at THANE'S rig we gain an idea
that like you say a 12" rotor is in order to start a decent
test.

Next are your basic coils. One patent says to use magnet wire
the others call for type 2 HTS wire for an infinity output. I am
not rich so like the rest I will start with what I have and then
if and when I get some results, the improvements can come.

Yes I agree, based on what THANE (The grand Master) has
pointed out about minimum critical frequency, to me means
that the operator must wind the coil to run in REGENX
mode at say 7mph on a scooter so that this same coil will
not only begin recharging the battery as soon as possible
but also charge the battery at higher rpm's on up into the
upper limits of the bike.

Once the frequency is reached the sky is the limit so we can't
scrimp on wire length's. Why? Because Thane has shown us
that a long thin wire will begin to operate in REGENX mode at
a low frequency where shorter and or thicker wire will require
much high RPM's.

Everyone is a beginner and should not be trying to find REGENX
mode at 10,000 rpm's with a 250 foot section of wire like we find
on a conventional coil. Ding.

Why would I make such an absurd statement? Because this is
what people first think when they see a batch of coils pinned to
a ply board rotating around. Just throw coil on and start it up
right? No.

This message is for the beginners. Turion is far advanced into
this understanding as he has pointed out so many times.

Running a bearing even at 5 grand with homemade magnet
mounts is not only dangerous but will probably explode from
vibration.

Buy some dern wire or get a job so you can buy some dad gum
wire Now we have the wire say a $100 spool to kick things
off right? Now that wasn't so bad was it?

Next 1" Magnets are not all that expensive either plus some $10
sets of bearings. Thane started running rmp's of 50-300.

Wind very long very thin wire coils. Wind it as a bifilar or trifilar
so a great coil "self capacitance" can be reached. Don't use a single
continuous section of wire if you are planning to follow THANE's
construction guide.

SELF CAPACITANCE and RESONANCE is key to optimizing and
finding the "HAPPY SPOT"
(The warm and fuzzy spot should be left left off as a personal matter)

Common guys let's not mix business with monkey business.

If anyone is serious about building an OU device in the form listed
go back in the record of THANE HEINS video's and he gives you
exact resistance values for a slow speed coil for beginners.

A SLOW SPEED COIL is a REGENX coil that starts assisting the
rotor acting at say 100 rmp's and used a 5X longer coil.

5X longer than what length than what? Conventional coils. What
is the length of a conventional coil? If you are not willing to sign
up for class to study rocket science and come back in 8 years to
answer THAT question, just unwind a motr to find the answer.

For instance a Gerard Morin Pump motor for washing machines
have 2 spools of wire on them, unwind them and measure.

I just saved you 8 years of schooling so that should be worth
something shouldn't it?

More later, like Dave says I have to work for a living or in his
case work for pleasure. Thanks Dave for any help.

[bistander]

... But I think Thane Heins ideas are worth the conversation and study. I've been following his work as much as possible. I can't build TH coils yet. Trying with smaller motors is my method, but to no avail.

My issue is when I see a guy like BM making statements which are obviously BS. I don't believe Thane has used liquid nitrogen cooling therefore has not used G2-High Temperature Superconducting. BM implies he has and also says silver plated copper with Teflon is a G2-High Temperature Superconductor, which it is not. Such BS as comes from BM only confuses and leads astray would be replicators such as yourself. I feel it best to expose blatant BS when it is recognized, don't you?

Then when confronted, BM will not back up his statements or address the technology. Instead he insults me and questions my character and motive. How about fact and truth? That is what I want to see.

[wantomake]

Truth

Thanks bi,
Ok. Liquid nitrogen is way beyond my understanding at this point.

If I may jabber a bit. I was a educator in Japan for five years. But only to fill a position that the school had. Upfront i informed the school of my education level. At the time was pursuing a BA in asian studies. But the American teachers are few in Japan so they asked to teach plus attend college at the same time.

The facility knew my education level and helped me along. I learned to not be something above your knowledge level. Those around you will spot your knowledge and at times point it out. Especially this type of higher education level. I've been studying and trying to replicate here for six years and not ashamed my lack of knowledge. But some will post above their heads and others do notice. I'm 61 and just starting to learn and want-to-make as many free energy devices as possible.

Stating all that I can't agree or disagree professionally here. But I think Thane Heins ideas are worth the conversation and study. I've been following his work as much as possible. I can't build TH coils yet. Trying with smaller motors is my method, but to no avail.

Sorry for the long babbling. But the sad conclusion for this forum is the lack of passionate teachers to start a new thread with good organizational steps to follow. There are a few good ones. Ufopolitics, Turion, Madmack had step by step instructions. To name a few I followed.

But just my thoughts and opinions,
wantomake

[bistander]

77k

Bistander,
I missed something, what is 77K ? I missed the reference to this term or site.

Thanks for your help,
wantomake

Hi wantomake,

Sorry, I tried to detail it out best I could with references to the exact posts. But in a nutshell: BM for some reason thinks and seemingly infers that Thane Heins is using superconducting technology, specifically G2-HTS. I have been following his work for a while and suspect it is not the case. I was about to say something when another member chimed in and commented that it was nice to see Thane working at 77k. BM hasn't a clue to what that means even though several of his posts as recent as a few months ago on this thread contain detailed explanations of it. He thinks 77k means $77,000.

77K (-196ºC) is the temperature at which liquid nitrogen boils. To use G2-HTS one must cool the conductors to 77K. This is much higher (although still very cold) than the near absolute zero temperature needed for superconducting requiring liquid helium, which is far more expensive than liquid nitrogen. BM also claims he has bought some G2-HTS wire. It is obvious to me and I suspect to member Iamnuts that BM has no clue so we are calling him on it. That's all.

bi

[wantomake]

You still have not answered the question of why you think the silver, copper and Teflon wire you bought qualifies as a G2 HTS.

Thanks for the references. Quite a lot happening at 77K.

Bistander,
I missed something, what is 77K ? I missed the reference to this term or site.

Thanks for your help,
wantomake

[bistander]

77k

You still have not answered the question of why you think the silver, copper and Teflon wire you bought qualifies as a G2 HTS.

Thanks for the references. Quite a lot happening at 77K.

[BroMikey]

You are an insulting person and far from fully
informed. You are an intelligent clown. To engage
conversation with you only shows that you love to
pick a fight, to show your buttox.

I am sure you are not after peace or tranquility in any
way shape or form. You will get the same in return, boy.

I can not answer any of your questions because I am
waiting for the rest of your pack members to chime in
to pet your insulting aspirations.

You have shown a track record of continued harassment
and have offered nothing, answered nothing, proven nothing
have no experiments, no device, only elevated mental rants
out into who knows where.

For the sake of others who may want to engage in discussion
in a sane format I address you as the person you project.

Adolescent. I wouldn't mind speaking to a younger man who
shows respect. With respect to the facts you are addressing
I would have to say that a superconductor is a conductor
such as a copper wire that has been improved in it's ability
to conduct.

Yes many definitions of what a superconductor are continually
evolving with each new process but unless you are going to
experiment your comment can only be speculation.

Many forms of energy exist beyond what JOHNNIE is taught in
schools so for instance a conductor such as a copper wire
coated with tin will improved the coppers ability to conduct
ENERGY not electricity and in essence qualifies as a
superconductor.

The latest forms and processes will be obsolete in a short time
and are therefore only a small picture of what constitutes a
superconductor.

Whether or not I understand all of the intricate details of
the latest processes at 77k are irrelevant. This does not
get the REGENX built.

The basic definition is to improve a conductors ability to
pass energy at a lowered resistance as compared to a solid
piece of plain materials.

3D printing may offer some new forms and list will continue.

I am not going to ignore you completely, just most of what
you say is not worth reading or thinking on. You are a hateful
person who does not like himself and for this I will hope that
better days will come for you.

Show some respect and you will command respect, this is how
it works. If your father had raised you instead of your mother
you would know this. You are a perfect example of emotional
conflict and feel it is your RIGHT to attack all of those whom
you do not care about.

This is very sad, not just for us but for you.

I had originally questioned I AM NUTS about why he pointed
out this figure and I am not surprised YOU chimed in when he
Talks because you did that before. It is my belief that you are TOO>

I will answer you to correct your poor manners but how can you
expect others to, seeing your constant barrage of bologna and answer
you? Nobody likes that.

Yeah I get it look at this motor Class is not out yet.

http://www.cca08.com/pdf/
presentations/1A-07-HAYASHI.pdf

HTS Coils - Custom Products - HTS-110 Ltd.

http://www.istec.or.jp/web21/pdf/13_10/E-all.pdf

[bistander]

77k

Do you ever read what you post?

No I have not read ALL of the material, DID YOU?

Not all but I did read post #33; the one from which I lifted your quote which I used in post #55, the one to which you just replied. After I pointed that out to you and asked you a question here:

It was your quote from this very page, 8 weeks ago. Ask yourself these questions.

And why in the world do you think silver coated copper is a superconductor?

I get no reply from you but notice you instead join discussion on another thread and suggest G2 HTS to thedude, here:

WOW great progress DUDE
Ultra fast diodes?

G2 HTS wire?

You still don't get it, do you? HTS stands for High Temperature Superconductor. High Temperature is relative. In this case it is relative to absolute zero. Or 4K to be more accurate. The temperature for LTS. K stands for Kelvin. 4K = -269ºC = 452ºF below zero (not counting wind chill). This requires liquid helium. Nitrogen boils at 77K and can be used in its liquid state for G2 HTS. That is -196ºC. I was about to mention this when another member beat me to it with post #50 here:

Nice to see Thane's working at 77k.

If Thane was really working at 77K, please share your source.

I guess you never did bother to read what you apparently copied and pasted (without noting the actual source) in your post #33 which appears to be a decent description of HTS. The diagram you posted in #48 (without credit to source) shows silver plated copper outer layers. This material is not the superconducting material but used for other reasons to stabilize and protect the micrometer thick film of HTS. Afterall if it is a zero resistance material, how thick does it need to be to conduct enormous current? But take note that your copper/silver wire is not HTS.

Here is what I have done. I bought some silver plated wire
also teflon insulation of solid copper that qualifies as G2 HTS wire.

[bistander]

I can tell you this, "YOUR HONOR" that superconductor
processing has evolved beyond the history you read, since 1987.

.....

Can you be more specific? Do you have a source for a 1987
design for these special conductors?

It was your quote from this very page, 8 weeks ago. Ask yourself these questions.

And why in the world do you think silver coated copper is a superconductor? And what does Teflon insulation have to do with it?

[BroMikey]

Do you ever read what you post?

No I have not read ALL of the material, DID YOU?

I can tell you this, "YOUR HONOR" that superconductor
processing has evolved beyond the history you read, since 1987.

The point is not about who is the most knowledgeable
about "SUPERCONDUCTOR" designs for cost effective
manufacturing trade offs but rather has anyone read
or observed the experiments and writing of one Thane Heins
who replicators claim they have followed exhaustively.

I am not a superconductor scientist but if I was I would'nt
be able to relay everything with a simple figure such as "90K"

Can you be more specific? Do you have a source for a 1987
design for these special conductors? That would be practical.


Here is what I have done. I bought some silver plated wire
also teflon insulation of solid copper that qualifies as G2 HTS wire.

[bistander]

In 1987, materials were discovered that exhibited superconducting properties at temperatures as high as 90 K. This class of materials was called High Temperature Superconductors or HTS. While this is still very cold, it was a significant breakthrough. These materials could now be cooled by liquid nitrogen which is much easier to work with, more readily available without supply issues and, most importantly, considerably cheaper than liquid helium.

Do you ever read what you post?

[BroMikey]

Reading the patent to understand coil construction.

The REGENX coil and the BI-Toroid coils are 3X-5X longer
than a conventional motor coil. This affects resistance
and since we know that the goal is to store voltage
by using a greater length of wire to lower losses 2g hts wire
or copper conductors (Wire) plated with silver or nickel
will lower resistance.

Winding configurations also play a part to lower resistance.

In comparison to the conventional coil design which employs large gauge windings with the aim of minimizing resistive losses within the coil (q.v.) the ReGen-X coil can use relatively small gauge wire, and this leads to many more turns being used in a ReGen-X coil than in a conventional coil. A consequence of this design characteristic is to raise the inductance of the coil so that above a certain frequency the current flow is delayed until TDC while the self-induced capacitance is increased. The high inductance, high impedance, high DC resistance variant of the ReGen-X coil produces a large repelling magnetic field and useful increases of kinetic energy and motive force into the system but they do not deliver much useable electrical energy because it is primarily consumed by the high DC resistance of the coil itself.
[0101]
The same “acceleration under load” effects can be achieved equally well by employing the bi-filar coils as previously described without requiring small gauge wire, or a large turns ratio. This IP variation provides large additions of positive motive force/kinetic energy into the system with useable electrical power being delivered to a load.

For example, an inductor often acts as though it includes a parallel capacitor, because of its closely spaced windings. When a potential difference exists across the coil, wires lying adjacent to each other at different potentials are affected by each other's electric field. They act like the plates of a capacitor, and store charge. Any change in the voltage across the coil requires extra current to charge and discharge these small ‘capacitors’. When the voltage changes only slowly, as in low-frequency circuits, the extra current is usually negligible, but when the voltage changes quickly the extra current is larger and can be significant.

The coil of the present invention operates at a higher frequency than conventional coils, with coils of higher inductance and, in some embodiments, employs parallel wound series connected bi-filar windings which increase coil impedance and self-induced capacitance by 200% or more.

Connecting the bi-filar coil into a series wound coil increases the coil's self induced capacitance and changes the on-load characteristics (when operated above the minimum critical frequency) from a counter-electromotive-torque producing coil to a complementary-electromotive-torque producing coil which accelerates the system rather than decelerating it.

[BroMikey]

Nice to see Thane's working at 77k.

For the book worms 77k relates to QUANTUM EFFICIENCIES
This value being directly related to super conductor processes.
Thane has not confirmed any of these facts for me other than
Thane has all of details listed in his patents.
Look at the second link for discussion about 77K


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...,d.eWE&cad=rja


https://books.google.com/books?id=CE...%2077k&f=false


4 Permanent magnets; M1, M2, M3, m4
4 Type II High Temperature Superconducting Wire and
Coils C1, C2, C3, C4

As the inner coil C1 and C2, rotates around magnets
M1 and M2, a current is induced in the wire/coil.

According to Lenz’s Law an electromagnetic force is
produced around the wire/coil which acts to stop the
rotating action as shown in Figure 1.0 by Force 1 and
Force 2 (The Conservation of Energy).

The inner coil C1 and C2, which is surrounded by
magnets M1 and M2, dictates the magnitude and
direction of current flow, which in turn is determines
by faraday’s Law;

[bistander]

What is 77,000 for? $$$???

I think he meant 77K.