Motor Generators

[BroMikey]

Why has he always had to use a variac?

Not all of his demo systems are all exactly the same. Taking the variac system we must listen for the goal of the demo presented in each video. As an example in Thanes beginning he would plug a power cord directly into the wall socket and from there to the Variac. The Variac is fed into the universal bench grinder motor. This Variac can lower voltages for starting up the rotors with the magnets on them to cause the generating process.

The universal grinder motor is a quick easy way to get a set of heavy duty bearing on a large shaft sticking out where normally a huge grinding wheel would be mounted. In this case the rotor with magnets.

The system I am describing and will continue doing so is nothing like the E-Bike demo's that do not use a Variac because the stock bike motor is a 75vDC motor powered by the onboard batteries. We can see it break even with 3 RegenX coils on the generator side with just the weight of the drive wheel (not a persons weight)

Continuing with the first demo's and how they were set up. From the variac to the AC bench grinder motor a power analyzer is placed. This number would be like 75v-85v at 4-5Amps coming in at 300w-400w drive motor input and this is called rotational equilibrium. This number is "0" and is not considered part of the generator efficiency calculation of any given coil.

Remember this is a test bed to calculate generator coil efficiency not a completed practical application including looping and 100's of other possible variables that might effect overall output.

So in the case of the AC plug to Variac the rotor and magnets start turning and we now can introduce a coil with core. So lets say the core and coil were mounted on the bench grinder drive motor (quick/easy) and the input reads 300w. That 300w is not yet counted so this is a "0" . Next the coil (conventional) is connected to a load. Let's say we are getting 70w output at the load but the drive energy side for the bench grinder went up 100w. This is what we can expect which is a 70% efficient generating coil. Or if we were getting 80w output the efficiency is 80%.

That is all Thane is doing, he is finding out how much power ADDITIONALLY is needed adding that figure to the 300w REQ. We started out with 300w REQ then adding 100w more the reading is 400w. Now we loaded the coil to 500w and to input goes up to say 700w? Something like that. Or let's go to a load that pulls 8000w then our input to the drive motor will go up to an additional 10,000w + 300wREQ. This is standard Eff.

Or a 1,000,000w + 300w. You see how the 300w REQ is not worth talking out?

Not so in the case of the new coils. The input never goes up.

[Quantum_well]

Why has he always had to use a variac? It doesn't take much energy to turn a freewheeling wheel does it? A decent battery would keep a wheel with no load on it going for many hours. A screaming motor isn't making efficient use of its input energy and that is fact.

[bistander]

No not completely free. You will have to build the machine and then the input is FREE.

Conventional = 1,000,000watts in to get 650,000watts out under high demand

RegenX = 0 watts additional in to get 1,000,000 watts output

The data you are ignoring/looking for is 200 years old.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it any less false. It is totally false. And there is no data showing "0 watts additional in to get 1,000,000 watts output". That is also a lie.

[BroMikey]

This is not data. It is a lie. It is false.

No not completely free. You will have to build the machine and then the input is FREE.

Conventional = 1,000,000watts in to get 650,000watts out under high demand

RegenX = 0 watts additional in to get 1,000,000 watts output

The data you are ignoring/looking for is 200 years old.

[bistander]

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With the RegenX coils no extra input is required to produce another 1,000,000 watts ...

This is not data. It is a lie. It is false.

[BroMikey]

I see no data in your reply. What "posted data" are you referring to? I'm not interested in your fantasy, make-believe, guessed numbers and stupid comments about a field of which you are ignorant. Show me data. Real data. And how about replies to the bullet points? You can't answer direct sensible questions. All you do is regurgitate the BS Thane Heinz spits out. Utter nonsense. Drinking that Kool-Aid again?
bi

Exactly, i rest my case


Originally posted by BroMikey View Post


Those not understanding standard EE calculation format can not be considered
"Skilled in the art? All utility generators produce millions of watts of power
With the RegenX coils no extra input is required to produce another 1,000,000 watts which is infinite efficiency.

[bistander]

What "posted data"?

Those not understanding standard EE calculation format can not be considered
"Skilled in the art? All utility generators produce millions of watts of power. An open circuit condition with the rotor free wheeling may be sustained at say 5000 watts is irrelevant when considering a full load condition.

So much in and so much output. 10,000w input to get 6500w output, these are the facts. 1,000,000 watts input to get 650,000 watt output during heavy grid usage.

With the RegenX coils no extra input is required to produce another 1,000,000 watts which is infinite efficiency. Another 2 million generated, costs zero on the input.

So while you focus on the 5000watt cost to freewheel a rotor the EE is looking at the over all big picture. Not the .005%

I see no data in your reply. What "posted data" are you referring to? I'm not interested in your fantasy, make-believe, guessed numbers and stupid comments about a field of which you are ignorant. Show me data. Real data. And how about replies to the bullet points? You can't answer direct sensible questions. All you do is regurgitate the BS Thane Heinz spits out. Utter nonsense. Drinking that Kool-Aid again?
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[BroMikey]

What "posted data"?

Those not understanding standard EE calculation format can not be considered
"Skilled in the art? All utility generators produce millions of watts of power. An open circuit condition with the rotor free wheeling may be sustained at say 5000 watts is irrelevant when considering a full load condition.

So much in and so much output. 10,000w input to get 6500w output, these are the facts. 1,000,000 watts input to get 650,000 watt output during heavy grid usage.

With the RegenX coils no extra input is required to produce another 1,000,000 watts which is infinite efficiency. Another 2 million generated, costs zero on the input.

So while you focus on the 5000watt cost to freewheel a rotor the EE is looking at the over all big picture. Not the .005%

[bistander]

Again you ignore the posted data from real people doing hands on testing. ...

What "posted data"?

[BroMikey]

ReGenX Generator Innovation

The ReGenX Generator is a new US Patented Electric Generator innovation that requires zero Mechanical Input Energy when performing Electrical and Mechnical Work - outputting Electrical Power at Infinite Efficiency.

In addition, the ReGenX Generator also simultaneously performs Positive Mechanical Work at Infinite Efficiency (accelerating and increasing the Kinetic Energy of both the generator and prime mover system) without requiring any Externally Supplied Input Energy. ReGen-X

Quantum Motor Innovation

The ReGen-X Quantum Motor is a new US Patented Electric Motor innovation that also requires zero Electrical Input Energy when it performs Mechanical Work at Infinite Efficiency - increasing the system's Kinetic Energy. A "New" Energy Source Discovery for Humanity - Harnessing Sub-Atomically Created Quantum Electron Energy Both the ReGenX Generator and ReGen-X Motor have the unique ability to harness Sub-Atomically Created Quantum Electron Energy while performing Positive Mechanical Work (accelerating and increasing the system's Kinetic Energy).

Interestingly enough all conventional electric generators also harness the same Sub-Atomically Created Quantum Electron Energy, but they perform Negative Work with this energy (decelerating and reducing the Kinetic Energy of the generator prime mover system). Generator Armature Reaction, EV regenerative braking, Counter-Electromagnetic-Torque, Negative Work.

Thane C. Heins

[BroMikey]

Again you ignore the posted data from real people doing hands on testing. Blatant obstinate behavior that can't even acknowledge 200 years of science showing the direct relationships of input vs output. Without a clear thinking process which can address the standards used today, no further discussion is possible as all other invention is compared to the old rules.

For those who think the core material is to blame is an entirely baseless suggestion. or that open circuit coils on the same cores drag the rotor down worse than another by 20X. Insanity.

This only serves to show that you do not understand the process that the coils offer. These coils are often wound to both assist rotor action and produce electrical current at the same time.

The old equal and opposite coils drag the rotor slower while making a few joules.

The one liner man "Show me a working OU machine right now this minute or I am going to poop my pants"

Only those skilled in the art will grasp these new effects. Stay frosty and don't take any wooden nickels.

[bistander]

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With these RegenX type coils a 5000watts of produced output costs no increase to the drive motor turning the rotor. A 20,000 watt output does not raise the drive motor input.
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What a bunch of BS. False. No proof. Just fantasy. Show a single case of sustained real output power exceeding input power, measured, simultaneously, without using stored energy in a flywheel or battery or such.

[bistander]

False fake and fony. Cores drag rotors down with open circuit winding all very close to the same. Common sense. Stop depending on the debunker lies and run the tests like I have.

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Show a clear easy to understand video of your test like the debunker has. Otherwise it's just BS from you. While you're at it, show input and output power like he did.
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[BroMikey]

Also looking at the true data not some debunker guy we find that once rotational equilibrium is reached (rotor +core drag) all generated power is close to a 1:1 ratio. This means that if 5000watts is produced from a regularly designed coil, 5100 watts must be added to the drive motor. If the rotor and core drag is 500 watts, EE call this a zero and is the same as rotational equilibrium. Once the system is up and running then efficiency calculations can be made based on the output VS what much input power is required.

In the case of an electrical utility supplying it's maximum output during air-conditioning season they will run at 60% efficient for short periods as systems reach overloaded conditions. Breakers blow and additional units must be engaged to supply the demand and your bill skyrockets.

With these RegenX type coils a 5000watts of produced output costs no increase to the drive motor turning the rotor. A 20,000 watt output does not raise the drive motor input.

So looking at this 200 year old mind set to get 6500watts you need to add 10,000watts to the drive motor and so on.

[BroMikey]

160 watts is the increase the debunker observed going from a conventional wound coil to bifilar coil.
bi

False fake and fony. Cores drag rotors down with open circuit winding all very close to the same. Common sense. Stop depending on the debunker lies and run the tests like I have.

Further you missed the whole point. Conventional calculations show a 3watt increase for a generated 3w output. All coils are able to generate conventionally and RegenX format all with the same core.

Not so with Regen Coils. One liner man strikes againDrowning man grasping at straws "DEBUNKER SAYS"

Hi John yes that is a good point. here let's look another way. Take a rotor out of the box and throw a set of bearings on it and then set 24 magnets into the rotor. Congratulations you just spent a bunch of money and time. Okay well we won't itemize the task but be sure you get the spacing 100% right on, no mickey mouse (like Bye-Slanders) rotor will replace a machined unit.

Now you are almost there. Next take the head off of a state of the art conventional (MOT) transformer and you have an E-Core with some windings. Start up your rotor and run it at 3500rpm to 5000 rpm, some where in this range is fine. If you are able to do that without being struck by flying magnets (congrat's again) you probably spent enough money on it so it does not self destruct and take you with it.

Now you must record the voltage and amp draw of the little motor driving the rotor. Let's say it is a 36 volt motor that draws 3 amps to make the rotor go with no cores anywhere around it.

Next thing is to bring the transformer E-Core (This is what Thane did) up close to the rotor magnets say 60 thousandths of an inch spacing. Congrat's you put a feeler gauge between all of your magnets (not like slander did) and the rotor is so true that every magnet around the entire rotor has a 1/6th inch gap.

.060-.062" is nice. Just to bring the core up to the rotor magnets costs you some drag. Now your meter is reading 36 volts at 3.5amps. You are about to generate some power.

Next using the low voltage side (Not the 5000v winding) connect a 12v light bulb. It only will produce about 6v and the bulb will be dimly lit. Not a very good test but it works. You are going to need a better coil to raise up the voltage if you want 50-100 volts But for now let's use this one. The car headlight bulb can draw3-5 amps 12v or even 15volts but yours is dimly lit coming in at 6v at 1/2amp. Now you are generating 3 watts. Not very impressive is it?

Nope not very impressive like all the fancy torque machines and the latest fluke meters calibrated to high accuracy. While you are thinking about my measly 3 watts and how cool your dynamometer is I am winding a fresh coil of magnet-wire. Oh yeah my 3amp draw went to 3.5amps a 18watt increase just on core drag and the generated power is only a 3 watt drag.

So here is what we have. 36v X 3A = 108w for just the rotor no cores

Then an additional 1/2A core drag or 36V X 500ma = 18w

It is time to generate at 6v X 500ma = 3w

Now the blind people all laugh because they don't see where this is going.

We have 108w + 18w + 3w = 129w

Next do the same thing with a fresh wound RegenX coil. 108W + 18w (core drag) just like the conventionally wound E-Core. Now comes the 60watt Regenerative acceleration generator output. The cores were already the additional 18w as we said. But now we are getting 60watts from the new coil.

Before we would have had a number like this:
108w (rotor) + 18w (core drag) + 60watts = 186w regular coils

Same every but 1 sixty watt RegenX coil. Now the figures read like this:

108w + 18w - 40watts - 60watts = +26w

The 40watts came when the coil was engaged which means the coil has been wound in such a way that it offers electrical watts (60w) plus it also lowers the drive input by 40watts.

This is for 1 coil. Now add 1 more and you have the so called free energy