Motor Generators

[BroMikey]

Here is the coil data. Same box from the same guy who built Dave's box so Dave sent these guys his coils all made up. Dave is working, what are the rest of you doing?

315v at 1.5amps per coil set (2)

[BroMikey]

36vdc at 3amps no load
36vdc at 3amps loaded so no change = drive watts 36 X3 = 108w

Power output both sets of 100w light bulbs. 100w X 4 =

[BroMikey]

start at min 3 ohms law

[BroMikey]

I'm just doing the same thing you all do , jumping all over like a kangaroo but as long as you can count past 1, variables matter.

[bistander]

Were we not speaking about the performance of the coil? The post from you has nothing to do with coils.

You make claims about coil performance. Back it up. You say you have tests. Show it, clearly with tabulated results/data as done in the debunker video.

Nevermind. You can not comprehend something obvious, simple, logical, straightforward, and real. Have fun in fantasy land.
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[BroMikey]

Okay I am not going to argue with debunker. He has a 40" rotor and 70 magnets, I have no idea what his rig does.

I have shown the tests here for any same size core with these magnets. There is a tiny increase when any core is brought near the rotor magnets. You have a rotor and you have cores, test it.

You are mistaken again. Here is Dave's video with no coils then later shows with coils and there is an increase up to a total of 300watts but the box produces over 2000w. So yeah cores and coils have a small drag increasing the drive but in the end 5X is well worth it.

I guess you guys are so old you keep having to be shown and then shown the tests again. Old timers is hell. Debunker and everyone else is not following instruction and just doing their own thing and that is fine just don't compare it.

[bistander]

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When just coil increase and output are measured RegenX coil far surrpass the 200 yr old tech. ...:

Debunker proves you wrong.

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Input required for bifilar coil is 437 watts.

Input required for standard coil is 268 watts.

Both at no load (disconnected) just prior to delivering equivalent load (10 watts).

169 watts extra is required to drive the generator when the bifilar coil is on the core compared to the standard coil on the core, both coils disconnected. But when loaded to the same output, both coils require the same input power (280watts).

The bifilar (or RegenX) coil performs no better that the standard coil when under the same load.

When the bifilar (or RegenX) coil runs disconnected it causes extra power to be drawn. This extra power ceases when the load is connected.

That extra power when disconnected is a prime example of why it is invalid to call equilibrium "zero" for any power or efficiency calculations. Contrary to your make-believe reference, there is no EE standard or procedure using such convoluted logic.

The fact that a bifilar coil exhibits this peculiar behavior is due to the higher than normal inductance of the windings causing a resonance at certain frequencies. It won't develop any extra useful power. Rather it has shown to be quite wasteful of power in certain conditions.
Regardless of what type of coil windings are used, machine efficiency is always ( useful real power out) / (total power in). And that ratio never exceeds unity. Look it up in the EE handbook.
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[BroMikey]

Here is the love video for you luvbirds.

[BroMikey]

Bistander hit the nail on the head when he pointed out about equilibrium. It amounts to a cheat.

Not with a test bed set to test only generator coils. Forget the O U mind freeze and if you and Bye can stop romancing for 30 seconds and think about what the EE lesson for the days is.

When just coil increase and output are measured RegenX coil far surrpass the 200 yr old tech. You and Bye can go away together fawning over who is smarter later.

[Quantum_well]

Bistander hit the nail on the head when he pointed out about equilibrium. It amounts to a cheat.

[bistander]

Bye if you are so unhappy and disgruntle maybe people on your threat will comfort you there. Or you could run some tests with a real rig. And my butt is not for you to sniff. I knew you would come out of the closet soon enough, you like stinky stuff.

So go away until you can clean up your act. Just one sick 1 liner after another like this one.

Yes, you stink from all the BS spit out over here. Never can back up any claim you make or give reference to any "EE standard". Never data, just make-believe numbers and funny math. Lies on top of lies from you.

And mine isn't an "act". It's truth and fact. Needs no cleaning up.
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[BroMikey]

you just pull this out of your butt. Show me this "standard EE practice for calculating coil eff" where it is "listed".

You can't.
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Bye if you are so unhappy and disgruntle maybe people on your threat will comfort you there. Or you could run some tests with a real rig. And my butt is not for you to sniff. I knew you would come out of the closet soon enough, you like stinky stuff.

So go away until you can clean up your act. Just one sick 1 liner after another like this one.

[bistander]

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Everything listed is standard EE practice for calculating coil eff.
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you just pull this out of your butt. Show me this "standard EE practice for calculating coil eff" where it is "listed".

You can't.
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[BroMikey]

Repeating a lie doesn't make it any less false. It is totally false. And there is no data showing "0 watts additional in to get 1,000,000 watts output". That is also a lie.

You were told that these 1 liners do not qualify as an intelligent response. You must prove or show HOW it is wrong.

"stupid comment"

"Utter nonsense"

"Drinking that Kool-Aid"

"BS Thane Heinz spits out" .

"so and so is an idiot"

"it's a lie" or
"That's all BS" is on the level of a chimp. Everything listed is standard EE practice for calculating coil eff. Don't blame me for your ignorance.

Not all of his demo systems are all exactly the same. Taking the variac system we must listen for the goal of the demo presented in each video. As an example in Thanes beginning he would plug a power cord directly into the wall socket and from there to the Variac. The Variac is fed into the universal bench grinder motor. This Variac can lower voltages for starting up the rotors with the magnets on them to cause the generating process.

The universal grinder motor is a quick easy way to get a set of heavy duty bearing on a large shaft sticking out where normally a huge grinding wheel would be mounted. In this case the rotor with magnets.

The system I am describing and will continue doing so is nothing like the E-Bike demo's that do not use a Variac because the stock bike motor is a 75vDC motor powered by the onboard batteries. We can see it break even with 3 RegenX coils on the generator side with just the weight of the drive wheel (not a persons weight)

Continuing with the first demo's and how they were set up. From the variac to the AC bench grinder motor a power analyzer is placed. This number would be like 75v-85v at 4-5Amps coming in at 300w-400w drive motor input and this is called rotational equilibrium. This number is "0" and is not considered part of the generator efficiency calculation of any given coil.

Remember this is a test bed to calculate generator coil efficiency not a completed practical application including looping and 100's of other possible variables that might effect overall output.

So in the case of the AC plug to Variac the rotor and magnets start turning and we now can introduce a coil with core. So lets say the core and coil were mounted on the bench grinder drive motor (quick/easy) and the input reads 300w. That 300w is not yet counted so this is a "0" . Next the coil (conventional) is connected to a load. Let's say we are getting 70w output at the load but the drive energy side for the bench grinder went up 100w. This is what we can expect which is a 70% efficient generating coil. Or if we were getting 80w output the efficiency is 80%.

That is all Thane is doing, he is finding out how much power ADDITIONALLY is needed adding that figure to the 300w REQ. We started out with 300w REQ then adding 100w more the reading is 400w. Now we loaded the coil to 500w and the input goes up ADDITIONALLY to say 700w? Something like that. Or let's go to a load that pulls 8000w then our input to the drive motor will go up to an additional 10,000w + 300wREQ. This is standard Eff.

Or a 1,000,000w + 300w. You see how the 300w REQ is not worth talking out?

Not so in the case of the new coils. The input never goes up.

[bistander]

Not all of his demo systems are all exactly the same. Taking the variac system we must listen for the goal of the demo presented in each video. As an example in Thanes beginning he would plug a power cord directly into the wall socket and from there to the Variac. The Variac is fed into the universal bench grinder motor. This Variac can lower voltages for starting up the rotors with the magnets on them to cause the generating process.

The universal grinder motor is a quick easy way to get a set of heavy duty bearing on a large shaft sticking out where normally a huge grinding wheel would be mounted. In this case the rotor with magnets.

The system I am describing and will continue doing so is nothing like the E-Bike demo's that do not use a Variac because the stock bike motor is a 75vDC motor powered by the onboard batteries. We can see it break even with 3 RegenX coils on the generator side with just the weight of the drive wheel (not a persons weight)

Continuing with the first demo's and how they were set up. From the variac to the AC bench grinder motor a power analyzer is placed. This number would be like 75v-85v at 4-5Amps coming in at 300w-400w drive motor input and this is called rotational equilibrium. This number is "0" and is not considered part of the generator efficiency calculation of any given coil.

Remember this is a test bed to calculate generator coil efficiency not a completed practical application including looping and 100's of other possible variables that might effect overall output.

So in the case of the AC plug to Variac the rotor and magnets start turning and we now can introduce a coil with core. So lets say the core and coil were mounted and the bench grinder drive motor (quick/easy) and the input reads 300w. That 300w is not yet counted so this is a "0" . Next the coil (conventional) is connected to a load. Let's say we are getting 70w output at the load but the drive energy side for the bench grinder went up 100w. This is what we can expect which is a 70% efficient generating coil. Or if we were getting 80w output the efficiency is 80%.

That is all Thane is doing, he is finding out how much power ADDITIONALLY is needed adding that figure to the 300w REQ. We started out with 300w REQ then adding 100w more the reading is 400w. Now we loaded the coil to 500w and to input goes up to say 700w? Something like that. Or let's go to a load that pulls 8000w then our input to the drive motor will go up to 10,000w. This is standard Eff.

Not so in the case of the new coils. The input never goes up.

That's all BS. Just his fantasy, just his BS, and yours also. But truth is that output never exceeds input power. Never once in all the years has Thane Heinz, or you, or Turion shown real power output exceeding input power. Never.

And the following is a huge error on the part of Thane Heinz which is never done in machine efficiency calculation. "equilibrium. This number is "0" and is not considered part of the generator efficiency calculation of any given coil."

Look up the definition of "efficiency" and "equilibrium". Equilibrium means forces are balanced, NOT zero. I mentioned many times where he starts with this false premise in his videos. Torque on the shaft from the motor to the generator is NOT zero, as he claims.

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