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$3.45 per pound for copper at the scrap yard so it looks like $100 box to me from here
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In case you thought I was kidding about the number of coils that have “died”’on the bench since I started working on this generator stuff. Many $1,000 worth. Boxes are 31” long by 21”’deep by 11” high x2195C966F-29E8-4528-B8FD-BCAACAA71585.jpegLast edited by Turion; 03-02-2022, 07:12 PM.
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Originally posted by Turion View Post
All my coils are wound on a bobbin that has a 3 1/2" flange. A 3/4 arbor hole. A traverse Length of 3" and a 1" barrel.
3 strands of 1,000 feet #23 AWG
https://youtu.be/Iy16_dbVuJ0Last edited by Turion; 02-28-2022, 09:05 PM.
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Originally posted by Turion View PostI actually have a little time this week. What test do you want me to run? It I do have a scope. I can put both the old coils and the new coils in the machine but neither are producing what they did on the previous machine.
The ONLY differences between the two machines is number of magnets on the rotor and POSSIBLY the grade of magnets. I won’t know that until the old machine gets up here and I can measure rotor magnets with a gauss meter
For starters, fill in blanks to this post along with coil diameter. Please respond on the bistander thread. I'm busy this week also. Gotta run.
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Originally posted by bistander View Post
Hi Turion,
Be interesting to know coil span overlays pole pitch. Let's see, you have 4 poles per coil. Hmmm. Core and magnet diameters are what, 3/4 inch? Don't have the core circle diameter or the outer coil diameter. What would be really helpful is a waveform of generated voltage. Got a scope? But you're not big on sharing data or doing a simple requested test.
Post up what you will. I'll be watching. Good luck.
bi
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Originally posted by Turion View PostI actually have a little time this week. What test do you want me to run? It I do have a scope. I can put both the old coils and the new coils in the machine but neither are producing what they did on the previous machine.
Yeah bye "what test" ? You got him now.This is funny like "no light bulb shine"
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I actually have a little time this week. What test do you want me to run? It I do have a scope. I can put both the old coils and the new coils in the machine but neither are producing what they did on the previous machine.
The ONLY differences between the two machines is number of magnets on the rotor and POSSIBLY the grade of magnets. I won’t know that until the old machine gets up here and I can measure rotor magnets with a gauss meterLast edited by Turion; 02-28-2022, 04:02 PM.
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Originally posted by Turion View PostI never used "speed up under load" in the first place, so I never "dropped" it. So that is another LIE by you. I ALWAYS said that in order for a generator coil to put out maximum power without affecting the prime mover it had to be "Lenz neutral." My position on that has never changed. You just aren't smart enough to pick up on it. I have also ALWAYS said that any coil is "Lenz neutral" at the right frequency and winding coils in the Tesla style simply enables the "Lenz neutral" condition at a lower RPM. That has also not changed. The very first machine I ever built simply had three strands of #23 each 1,000 feet long, in parallel, and achieved "Lenz neutral" at 2800 RPM. I didn't need a Tesla style coil then, but I HAVE used them, and they work. I have probably stated this a hundred times and you still don't get it. My machine still incorporates coils that operate in a "Lenz neutral" condition. So liar, liar, pants on fire.
The second one is not anti-cogging. Another LIE on your part. If you paid attention you would understand that "cogging" is a physical "jerking" reaction that goes away at rated speed. The magnetic attraction of the rotor magnets to the cores of the coils NEVER goes away, unless you have found a way around the laws of physics. You, yourself, admitted this is true. And it is multiplied as you add more coils. My process cancels out the negative effect on the prime mover from that attraction, or magnetic "drag". If there is attraction, there is drag. Without attraction, there would be no flux and no electricity produced in the coil. So the attraction exists, and if it exists, the drag exists. FACTS.
Yes, I have built 16 versions of this machine. All of them did exactly what they were BUILT to do. Each one was a mechanical improvement on the previous version. Each one better than the one before. The third through 14th versions attempted to overcome the problems that occurs when you start adding 12 coils around a rotor covered with magnets, with varying degrees of success. If you don't believe these problems occur, it is because YOU have never built anything but toys. Then I found the patent on magnetic neutralization. Only the last TWO incorporated the use of magnets to achieve magnetic neutralization. The previous one used square magnets that slid down square plastic tubes and required an adjustment mechanism that was imprecise and would not remain in adjustment. The old clunker. In every other way it was a success. It just will not stay adjusted. But when it is IN ADJUSTMENT, it does everything I said it would do. The current version uses round magnets in round tubes which are easily adjusted because they can spin as they go in and out where square ones could not. But it is not producing the same amount of power per coil as the old machine.
Are you perfecting your cave man dialogue? LOL. I have lit up tons of light bulbs at different times. My current machine is lighting up the light bulb. It just isn't producing as much voltage as the 12 magnet rotor. Likely because it has N42 magnets instead of the N52 the previous machine had, which produce 83-89% of the power the N52 magnets produce. And I am getting 96 volts instead of 120. Possibly it is something that you understand and I do not. But instead of just coming out with a suggestion for change and a reason for it, you must play at being the all powerful OZ who knows everything. Unfortunately, we have seen behind the curtain, SENOR EUNUCO.instead of just coming out with a suggestion for change and a reason for it, you must play
Review recent posts from me. You'll notice several offers to help with requests for civil behavior. I do think with some cooperation from you in the data and testing that I could identify your latest problem and offer solutions.
You play the childish games and name call instead. Go figure.
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I never used "speed up under load" in the first place, so I never "dropped" it. So that is another LIE by you. I ALWAYS said that in order for a generator coil to put out maximum power without affecting the prime mover it had to be "Lenz neutral." My position on that has never changed. You just aren't smart enough to pick up on it. I have also ALWAYS said that any coil is "Lenz neutral" at the right frequency and winding coils in the Tesla style simply enables the "Lenz neutral" condition at a lower RPM. That has also not changed. The very first machine I ever built simply had three strands of #23 each 1,000 feet long, in parallel, and achieved "Lenz neutral" at 2800 RPM. I didn't need a Tesla style coil then, but I HAVE used them, and they work. I have probably stated this a hundred times and you still don't get it. My machine still incorporates coils that operate in a "Lenz neutral" condition. So liar, liar, pants on fire.
The second one is not anti-cogging. Another LIE on your part. If you paid attention you would understand that "cogging" is a physical "jerking" reaction that goes away at rated speed. The magnetic attraction of the rotor magnets to the cores of the coils NEVER goes away, unless you have found a way around the laws of physics. You, yourself, admitted this is true. And it is multiplied as you add more coils. My process cancels out the negative effect on the prime mover from that attraction, or magnetic "drag". If there is attraction, there is drag. Without attraction, there would be no flux and no electricity produced in the coil. So the attraction exists, and if it exists, the drag exists. FACTS.
Yes, I have built 16 versions of this machine. All of them did exactly what they were BUILT to do. Each one was a mechanical improvement on the previous version. Each one better than the one before. The third through 14th versions attempted to overcome the problems that occurs when you start adding 12 coils around a rotor covered with magnets, with varying degrees of success. If you don't believe these problems occur, it is because YOU have never built anything but toys. Then I found the patent on magnetic neutralization. Only the last TWO incorporated the use of magnets to achieve magnetic neutralization. The previous one used square magnets that slid down square plastic tubes and required an adjustment mechanism that was imprecise and would not remain in adjustment. The old clunker. In every other way it was a success. It just will not stay adjusted. But when it is IN ADJUSTMENT, it does everything I said it would do. The current version uses round magnets in round tubes which are easily adjusted because they can spin as they go in and out where square ones could not. But it is not producing the same amount of power per coil as the old machine.
Originally posted by bistander View PostAnd no light bulb shine.
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Originally posted by Turion View PostYou think you’ll ever SHUT up?
I’m not required to prove anything to you. I have shared every step of the building process. I have shared the two main concept and showed that BOTH of them work and are true. The rest us mechanics. Right magnets, right core material, right coil. If people choose to build it, that is up to them. Your demands mean less than nothing to me. When I have the machine working the way I want it and have completed the independent testing, it will be shared. All the noise you make is NOT going to move that process forward. Not by a single second.
But it will NEVER be shared with you.
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You think you’ll ever SHUT up?
I’m not required to prove anything to you. I have shared every step of the building process. I have shared the two main concept and showed that BOTH of them work and are true. The rest us mechanics. Right magnets, right core material, right coil. If people choose to build it, that is up to them. Your demands mean less than nothing to me. When I have the machine working the way I want it and have completed the independent testing, it will be shared. All the noise you make is NOT going to move that process forward. Not by a single second.
But it will NEVER be shared with you.
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Originally posted by Turion View PostAnd I don’t care what YOU think. So we are even.
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Think you'll ever get that bulb to light up?
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Originally posted by bistander View Post
It is about the extraordinary claim of yours. Just prove it.
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Originally posted by Turion View PostAnd when you show some supposed device partially wound and make claims HERE about the machine’s performance without posting videos, test results or data, it would appear you fall under the exact same classification, n’est-ce pas SENOR EUNUCO?
Therefore, according to YOUR own definition, you are a liar, fraud and con man, as well as scum of the earth and a pathetic loser for hiding in the dark.
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And when you show some supposed device partially wound and make claims HERE about the machine’s performance without posting videos, test results or data, it would appear you fall under the exact same classification, n’est-ce pas SENOR EUNUCO?
Therefore, according to YOUR own definition, you are a liar, fraud and con man, as well as scum of the earth and a pathetic loser for hiding in the dark. FBBAAA31-DC82-44C6-9576-C9A2DDD8FB6F.jpeg
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